Richard Dawkins - "I think you are hallucinating"

[FilippoMedas]

i hate atheist (especially richard dawkins) and religious people at the same time.

you believe in jesus? Perfect

you believe in krishna? Perfect

you believe muhammad? Perfect

you believe in buddha? Odin? Zeus? Disney? perfect

you don't believe? perfect

so...

DON'T BREAK MY BALLS WITH YOUR SHIT.

thanks

[Rejito]

HALLUCINATIONS RULE!

[PrimericanIdol]

Noah's Ark:

The first Animal Collective :P

[punksachoo]

I bet the whole of mankind thought Noah had been hallucinating when he explained that he had been given the plans by God for an ark to save him from the water when up until that point it hadn't even rained on the earth!

Dawkins is hallucinating!

[Angelotube5000]

@punksachoo Noah? I thought it was Gilgamesh, well at least the Epic of Gilgamesh is older than the man who wrote the bible!

[punksachoo]

@Angelotube5000 It would appear there are several accounts of a serious flood event from different places in the world which surely adds weight to the idea that one did take place. However, it is left to readers of them to decide which if any to give the greatest credence to. The oldest account is not necessarily the most accurate. I don't really get the point of your post.

[DoctorOfDisbelief]

@punksachoo There are accounts of flooding in different cultures because flooding is common in our world. No world-wide communication system during those times, so their independent creation stories are available now for us to examine, but they were not all happening at the same time in history. It is a mistake to think that everyone who had a flood story lived at the same time, and thus the entire world flooded. Geologists have shown that it didn't happen.

[punksachoo]

@DoctorOfDisbelief I don't believe that any flood accounts of the sort that we are talking about, were written by the same people that experienced the flood. Rather, each account is a different version of the same event, written down by the descendants of the survivors of the event that they are writing about. I don't think it's a mistake to believe that there has been a great deluge covering the entire earth and geologists thoughts on this and the possibility that it could have occured do vary.

[DoctorOfDisbelief]

@punksachoo No, geologists by and large do not disagree. Check out the National Academies of Science. No disagreement there. Check out The Geological Society of America's website. No disagreement there. Only a few nuts and conmen pushing books disagree.

[DoctorOfDisbelief]

@punksachoo As people couldn't circumnavigate the globe at that time, exactly how would "the whole of mankind" even be aware of Noah? It's a myth. Geologists have shown there has been no global flood.

[punksachoo]

@DoctorOfDisbelief

"the whole of mankind even be aware of Noah"

No-one would suggest that Noah was known by name by all of his descendants. You know as well as I that given time and human inability to accurately retell events, the same story could well come to have different details included in it in the various cultures that came to exist long after Noah and the other flood survivors' deaths.The ancient stories which are similar to Genesis' account of the flood might relate to the same event

[DoctorOfDisbelief]

@punksachoo There are flood stories preceding the old testament. Couldn't have been retelling the story of Noah, as it hadn't happened yet. Face it. They are local stories that became mythic. Nothing more.

[anewgenre]

you can be wrong, and you can be sincerely wrong.

[DoctorOfDisbelief]

@anewgenre And you can be "not even wrong."

[Englandsbestlover]

Crazy drunk mother fukker. Lay of the scotch next time you dare talk to the real god...that is Richard Dawkins

[jhibbitt1]

i admire how polite he was to that man despite the fact that the bottom line was that he'd been living lies all his life, this video does feel mean, but i hope (tho i doubt it) that that man will learn to accept the truth

[mrscullen09]

I have watched numerous videos by Mr.Dawkins and he uses the same argument of believing in a religion by where you live A) not always true there are religions all around the world and Christianity is the most wide spread! B) he needs new arguments or reasons because he uses the same one over and over! and C) learn to answer the question you are asked not deviate from the question because you know deep down you are wrong and God prevails.

[TomFynn]

@mrscullen09 He does not need new arguments. His arguments are perfectly valid. But since the religious do seem unwilling to learn and always ask the same bogus questions, he simply has no choice but to drive home the point over and over and over...I feel sorry for him. But then, he *is* fighting a worth fight. The fight against willful ignorance, aka religion.

[MrTestuda]

@TomFynn What is he really fighting for he loses in the end whatever, but those with faith have an undeniably higher chance of success and if you cannot see it then you sir willfully ignorant.

[jadencore]

@MrTestuda Wilfully ignorant. Hm. Yes, that does sum up the religious in a good way.

[TheAzionist]

@MrTestuda No, they don't. Pascal's wager is a fool's wager. There are an infinite number of variations to an infinite number of faiths, and significant span of time in which they may or may not be invented at the time of the believer.

It is absurd to place a bet on one of an infinite number of horses in a race. You may argue that there is no point to NOT betting, when you are forced to play the game. To this, I ask: What if the bookie is making the entire race up?

[MrTestuda]

@TheAzionist The horses are not infinite, and if I can make the world a better place by watching this horse then I think this is a horse worth cheering for.

[TheAzionist]

@MrTestuda You could just as easily make the world a better place as an atheist, a muslim, a hindu, a buddhist, etc. The good a religion does for the world is a non sequitur in regards to its truth value.

How do you justify that there are not an infinite number of possibilities in regards to the correct religion? This defies all of modern philosophical ideas regarding religion.

[TheAzionist]

@MrTestuda Which is more likely: I am a unicorn on the other end of the world typing this message to you, or that I am a human being. Let's assume these are the only two choices.

Does this mean that it is a 50/50 chance of me being a Unicorn? No. It does not. Therefore, those with faith, may still not have an equal, or greater chance than atheists just because there are many god myths.

Particularly, when all of these god myths are demonstrably false and have definite human origins/revisions.

[DoctorOfDisbelief]

@MrTestuda In what way to those with faith have "an undeniably higher chance of success?"

[lhbchen]

@mrscullen09 when little kids ask me what is the answer to 1+1, I tell them 2. I don't need a new answer of random number every time someone ask me about this. Simple as that.

[DoctorOfDisbelief]

@mrscullen09 Religions have spread from centralized points back in history. Perhaps you are not seeing the same root-problem in many questions. If length of time were a significant bit of envidence in support of a religion, then the Egyptians win. They had a religion last longer than christianity. Try using some logic, it doesn't hurt.

[777kennyv]

This argument Dawkins makes is horrible, anyone who studies sociology of religion can tell you this.

[waldojo22]

@777kennyv haha you got it all wrong friend. That is the beauty of the arguement. Any little bit of study can lead one to this answer. its not a massive philosophical word play, its simple strait up "no-shit" kinda answer. and that's why its one of my favorites.

[Mandragara]

@777kennyv Do you mean horrible in the sense that he is mean to the questioner? Or do you mean that his argument is logically unsound?

[BeatleEDs]

Dawkins is an idiot. We were designed people. GOD probably evolved just like us. An advances being. Explains Jesus and everything else.

[BstmKsander]

@BeatleEDs There are billions of galaxies containing billions of planets. You think that out of all those billions and billions of planets, he only cares about this one? And it's weird how he waited 14 billion years before creating us. Also, that loving God has let 99.9 % of all life that has ever lived on this planet go extinct. Weird huh? And can you please explain how your theory of a evolved God would explain how Jesus lived and everything else in the bible. Like the talking snake and Noah.

[BeatleEDs]

@BstmKsander - You need to think a bit more before responding with the talking points. I said nothing about who GOD is or how he cares about anything. I said that evolution suggest that there are likely to be other intelligence beings who have evolved far beyond us. No life is extinct, that just a human construct. In other words just because be define species, does not mean that life is actually separated into these so called groups. We made that shit up based on our own conscious experience.

[BeatleEDs]

@BstmKsander - And think of GOD as a superior being who has evolved far beyond our comprehension. No, better yet, think of a monkey and your a scientist. I bet you could impregnate the monkey, manipulate the monkeys DNA, clone the monkey, depending on the monkey death, you could bring the monkey back to life. You could teach the monkey and show the monkey advanced technology. Hell, its a good chance you could create life in a lab and designed the monkey. To this monkey, you are GOD.

[MrBrational]

@BeatleEDs Jesus was a geek, and everything else is B.S. there explained.

[BeatleEDs]

@MrBrational - Einstein was a geek.

[MrBrational]

@BeatleEDs Einstein was smart, Jesus not so much. He thought his mom was still a virgin for crying out loud.

[BeatleEDs]

@MrBrational - I dont remember that part...you know, jesus thought his mom was a virgin. What book? But for me, the virgin story makes sense. Heck, we do it today all the time. Are you saying a virgin birth is not possible? Now thats just nuts.

[MrBrational]

@BeatleEDs what makes more sense, Mary had a fun night with some stranger, or she conceived a child without male interference? Tell me what is more likely?

[mardastheEitheist]

I pity this man... Because his hallucinations became tolerable, he wasn't sent to a psychiatry, where he should be. He has to be healed and not used for the hallucinations of others. These are the times, where one becomes angry about people, who push their own ideology and viewpoint above the well-being of others. In my view the people, who tell this guy, that he is connected to jesus, have to get to prison, until they understand, that people are worthier than their ideology!

[mgs6ps3]

"What do you have to say to someone who has walked with the living Elvis?" You are hallucinating!

[MrSpin254]

*Mr* Dawkins *IF* educated could have simply countered 1Cor 13: 3&4.

.........."But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away."...........

[MrSpin254]

Poincare if it was above your head.

[MrSpin254]

Russian proof, has *much* more simplification. (Everything does)

Fermats last proof, is all you'll ever get out of me.

[MrSpin254]

For want of a better word.

Silly.

I see you like you see a child.

[MrSpin254]

Are macroscopic objects quantum computers?

[MrSpin254]

Now *MR* Dawkins.

I'm perform play a very simple science experiment.

I'm gonna put a pea on my floor.

If I'm right, the bacteria, proteins, viruses, on that pea undergo Darwinian evolution.

But if the double slit experiment (is to be believed) we perform infinite Darwinian Evolution & Selection, simultaneously.

So, I'm gonna pick up my pea. After 2 days.

Now, (I know the answer).

But I'm asking you *MR* Dawkins.

"How much Darwinian Evolution has my *PEA* experienced?"

[MrSpin254]

Clues are in the script.

[ElectronicStuff4Free]

@MrSpin254 My, you are one bat-shit crazy lunatic aren't you?

[MrSpin254]

@ElectronicStuff4Free

I'm the smartest lunatic, you'll ever meet.

*Mr*Dawkins is the stupidest lunatic I know.

[dhide14]

@ElectronicStuff4Free go fuck Hitler while you burn. LOL< die athiest die!!

[JCaesar11]

@MrSpin254 Is the pea your brain?

[MrSpin254]

This is *SAD*. (scientifically).

I don't parade victims of child molestation (LIKE RICHARD DAWKINS WAS) as ***proof*** that he has a grudge against God.

If he has *PROOF* of Gods *non-existence*.

I'm the first to listen.

Shoot, *MR* Dawkins.

[MrSpin254]

@MrSpin254

Perhaps I should introduce us.

*Mr* Dawkins. I'm Mr Spin.

I wanna know whether you're a true atheist, or just someone who is * disgruntled*.

*Sorry*;

But, it's a scientific test, and we don't have any subjects of your caliber, who could teach us as much about revenge as you". 2 questions.

A) Are you pissed off at something you ultimately have to admit exists?

B) Are you pissed off at the ones who raped you with that knowledge?

[jancar2012]

Why doesn't jesus ever appear to people who DON'T believe in him? What good does it do to appear to people who already believe in him? It seems is jesus is more concerned with convincing people who are already convinced.

[scumbagstyle]

Well said, in fact less time could have been afforded to this guy. You're hallucinating because without faith, you're afraid your life will be useless. There are saner people that can still be saved from Religion.

[TheSatchmo93]

reason versus intuitive experience such a western dilemma. Science versus religion versus culture, a wild goose chase with newton trying to measure the holy ghost. we must become accustomed to wholistic visualization instead of delineated modeling that reduces context along with scale. Perfect reason has no meaning, as mathmatics is the map and not the territory. perfect faith has no meaning as a sentient being must relate accurately with their environment to survive. We are not machines though

[VeggieTart]

The questioner completely ignored Dawkins' assertion that had he been born in another country or another era, he'd be saying virtually the same thing about another god. But if this guy walks with "the risen and living Jesus Christ", please show him to us. Otherwise, we are going to say you are delusional.

[splumer]

I would have said "I think you need to go back on your medication."

[midniter07]

I'm sorry, everything in the Bible, if it happened today, would've been correctly dismissed as mental illness, con artistry, misinformation, egotistically-driven pathological lying, and just outright bullshit. If people had real faith in the person of Jesus Christ, you could almost appreciate it as a moral center for many. But they don't give a crap about Christ, just his pedigree and his magic tricks.

[Balstrome1]

In other words, we understand you say that, it's just that we do not understand why you say what you say.

[rriverstone1]

@Balstrome1 "Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand." ~Homer Simpson

[drandersw]

I don't understand how anyone can be so feeble-minded. How can it be so hard for him to distinguish between reality and hallucinations?

[rriverstone1]

@drandersw because that is the nature of hallucinations. They are not dreams or fantasies; the appear completely, convincingly real to the person having them

[drandersw]

@rriverstone1 if it happened to me then I would take a picture of me and Jesus or lock him into a cage and open up a Jesus zoo. Since he can't do that, I still don't get why doesn't he understand that it is his mind playing a trick unless he is under constant hallucination in which case he could have pointed at Jesus.

[jursamaj]

"I cannot afford to build my life on..." really covers it. This man feels a need to believe. *That* has no bearing on the truth of his claims.

[jasonbutler419]

I'd say if you're claiming something as factual, you're obliged to support those facts beyond restating your beliefs, citing your personal, internal experience or what you can't "afford" not to believe in. This has been settled: strength of belief does not equate to accuracy of belief.

[FcBow]

If we try hard enough to believe in something, we'll believe it's there no matter what anybody says.  It's a scary thing.

[rjc34]

@FcBow Or if you had it drilled into your head as a child.