I was really surprised after reading Titus Andronicus that I've never heard of it before. If you want to get kids into Shakespeare, have them read Macbeth and Titus Andronicus.
I think this is a very strange adaptation, however.
@siseo05 at least part of this movie has been shot in Rome, so i guess somebody must have thought to use the flags of the two main football/soccer teams: Roma FC (orange and red) and Lazio (white and pale blue).
The scene with the cars (and followers behind and around them), is one of my faves from any movie. Talk about putting audio and visual together? That is a perfect example.
its a postmodern take on Shakespeare's least beloved play. Think of the juxtaposition between the ancient and the modern as a kind of inquiry into issues of war, atrocity, isolation, and the collapse of empire
the scene with the two brothers politicking for hearts and minds is reminiscent of campaigns that waged through prewar europe, and so Shakespeare's has been layered with these pastiches to allow the viewer to interpret what Shakespeare may have been trying to get at for a more contemporary audience
Sort of like the Decline and Fall of the British/French Empire twinned with the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire? There are so many randoms, just when you think you have pinpointed which time periods it is using it comes up with something like the Goth armies having spaz shotguns! The Romans use small swords and the Goths have shotguns!? It is nevertheless a good film and it was one of his best plays. But its FAR too surreal for my mind, i suppose it doesnt help that im historically minded!
it is a great interpretation. Rome with modern technology. It's a smart way to relating it to the united states/modern imperialism. It's a story of savagery and how the only consequence of violence is more violence in return.
After filming this he actually quit acting for a while because it was so difficult, obviously he came back to acting not too long after that, but he refuses to do Shakespeare. Which truly is a shame because he does it very well :(
I'm always a bit weirded out by the fact that Lucius never even tries to hide all these horrific doings from his little boy. I mean, I suppose some of it - like Lavinia - is just something the kid has to deal with, but letting him watch while they sacrifice Alarbus? Um... you're a really great father, Lucius.
I think it is to teach his son the hardness of life, to make him tough, so he can live up the standards of that time. As a man, he couldn't be soft and he had to be able to stand bloodshed.
@chocobasse10 I don't think he actually SAW them kill the guy- they just show him cleaning weapons. I mean, I'm sure he knows and understands what they did, but I don't think they made him watch while they did it.
Shakespeare was a great writer, but a lousy historian. Or maybe just a lazy one. Accuracy takes a back seat to thematic convenience in most of the plays. The sacrifice is supposed to represent the Romans as decadent, corrupt, and ironically barbaric in comparison to the "barbarian" Goths. That's more important than being accurate to the real history of the thing.
It wasn't really his fault though. One has to remember the limited sources he had access to and the politico-religious climate in which he lived. Also, I agree with you on the matter of his drawing attention to Roman hypocrisy and general moral decay.
We did some kind of weird version like Taymor did, only with more of a punk rock edge. I had to cut all my hair off (I had a short little mohawk) and the girl playing Lavinia had like neon colored hair...It was without a doubt the weirdest thing I've ever done.
While this is a good play, "Merchant of Venice" is also excellent. If anything, they should stop teaching that piece of crap, "Romeo and Juliet", and introduce students to "King John" or "Merry Wives of Windsor".
@fsandt They really don't do the tragedies enough. They do R&J, but never the really great ones that are about how to live life and be a good person.
@fsandt Hey, I LOVE Titus Andronicus, I really do, but...HOW, exactly, do you find fault with The Merchant of Venice to such a degree...
I mean really, it's not only a classic, it's one of the best "comedies," it's a Top 10 Shakespeare play, it gives some of the best lines--all that glsitens is not gold, the infamous "Hath not a Jew eyes?" speech, the whole pound-of-flesh plot--as well as a great commentary on social and religious effects on societies...that old "preach what you teach" bit...
I love the future Roman world. i wonder if this is what Rome would be like today if the Roman empire stayed? this movie is simply amazing! 5/5
hitmanlover 8 months ago 3
uhm what the heck is that boy doing there.
keepinsymple 10 months ago
@keepinsymple Lucious, Lucious' son
BeerBaron73 3 months ago
@keepinsymple lol dude i was thinking the same thing.everywhere the camera turned, he was there.
FightsRightsAlways 2 months ago
shakespeare should be out of schools and into museums
bxxx9 1 year ago
Thanks for uploading this--we just finished reading it in my university Shakespeare class : )
Kerridee100 1 year ago
johnathan rhys meyers AND james frain in this movie? hell YEAH!!
Nelsonhojax15 1 year ago
Great, just finished watching Macbeth on the Estate, of which James Frain (who here plays Bassanius) starred as Macbeth. Confuzzeling!
thishatandyou 1 year ago
I was really surprised after reading Titus Andronicus that I've never heard of it before. If you want to get kids into Shakespeare, have them read Macbeth and Titus Andronicus.
I think this is a very strange adaptation, however.
TenderTrap86 1 year ago
@TenderTrap86
Just roll with it. It works well, somehow.
It achieves everything the Dicaprio version of Romeo and Juliet attempted and failed to do.
Eldeecue 10 months ago 2
What is Bassianus' flag supposed to mean? I'm pretty sure I get Saturninus', but I'm not as sure about the blue/white.
siseo05 1 year ago
@siseo05 at least part of this movie has been shot in Rome, so i guess somebody must have thought to use the flags of the two main football/soccer teams: Roma FC (orange and red) and Lazio (white and pale blue).
I doubt they were in The Bard's mind :)
ghostswann 1 year ago
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Just love the (brief) monologue that begins at 3:06: "In peace and honor rest you here my sons..."
jc2101 1 year ago
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jc2101 1 year ago
The scene with the cars (and followers behind and around them), is one of my faves from any movie. Talk about putting audio and visual together? That is a perfect example.
Willroast 1 year ago
The oldest son is kind of cute. :P
likepocketsjingling 1 year ago
I just saw part 1 and why does it start off in modern times with a boy trashing the kitchen? LOL
Falagar517 1 year ago
@Falagar517 Tough to say. I think their doing it like it's in his imagination or something. Or maybe it's about destruction?
niceworkmicrosoft 1 year ago
This play isn't taught (or done) because it has serious issues. It's only good here because it's Julie Taymor, and she makes anything awesome.
SneakyKikiBiki 1 year ago
Haha, I'm loving the literal interpretation of the "Goths"- nice touch!
Never seen this all the way through...not looking forward to that scene with Lavinia :-/
veriddian 2 years ago
WTF is going on with this film?
Its like the illegitimate child of history and a time machine!
thebigJM92 2 years ago 5
@thebigJM92
its a postmodern take on Shakespeare's least beloved play. Think of the juxtaposition between the ancient and the modern as a kind of inquiry into issues of war, atrocity, isolation, and the collapse of empire
dovell138 2 years ago
@thebigJM92
the scene with the two brothers politicking for hearts and minds is reminiscent of campaigns that waged through prewar europe, and so Shakespeare's has been layered with these pastiches to allow the viewer to interpret what Shakespeare may have been trying to get at for a more contemporary audience
dovell138 2 years ago
Sort of like the Decline and Fall of the British/French Empire twinned with the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire? There are so many randoms, just when you think you have pinpointed which time periods it is using it comes up with something like the Goth armies having spaz shotguns! The Romans use small swords and the Goths have shotguns!? It is nevertheless a good film and it was one of his best plays. But its FAR too surreal for my mind, i suppose it doesnt help that im historically minded!
thebigJM92 2 years ago
it is a great interpretation. Rome with modern technology. It's a smart way to relating it to the united states/modern imperialism. It's a story of savagery and how the only consequence of violence is more violence in return.
fuzzynippleman 2 years ago
mercy is nobilitie's sweat badge,I like that part
brucekirk89 2 years ago
Love the monologue that begins at 3:07. Wish Hopkins would put more Shakespeare on the screen.
jc2101 2 years ago
After filming this he actually quit acting for a while because it was so difficult, obviously he came back to acting not too long after that, but he refuses to do Shakespeare. Which truly is a shame because he does it very well :(
JinxHexhazard 2 years ago
I think they did it like it's the kid's fantasy, like he's imagining that he's a part of this.
niceworkmicrosoft 2 years ago
I'm always a bit weirded out by the fact that Lucius never even tries to hide all these horrific doings from his little boy. I mean, I suppose some of it - like Lavinia - is just something the kid has to deal with, but letting him watch while they sacrifice Alarbus? Um... you're a really great father, Lucius.
JackandStephan 2 years ago
I think it is to teach his son the hardness of life, to make him tough, so he can live up the standards of that time. As a man, he couldn't be soft and he had to be able to stand bloodshed.
But I agree. He shouldn't let the boy watch!
chocobasse10 2 years ago
@chocobasse10 I don't think he actually SAW them kill the guy- they just show him cleaning weapons. I mean, I'm sure he knows and understands what they did, but I don't think they made him watch while they did it.
Yermog 2 years ago
i suppose it was a way to toughten his son
mcgiver02 2 years ago
We Analysed This Movie In Drama!
bUT Still dont really get it ...
fluoxkids 2 years ago
'Alarbus' limbs are lopped:: dios wotta bunch o godgawgeouss staaaatrangeness
lsdmadman 2 years ago
Demonic.
tonyschmoeredux 2 years ago
Shakespeare was a great writer, but a lousy historian. Or maybe just a lazy one. Accuracy takes a back seat to thematic convenience in most of the plays. The sacrifice is supposed to represent the Romans as decadent, corrupt, and ironically barbaric in comparison to the "barbarian" Goths. That's more important than being accurate to the real history of the thing.
Decepticonx7 3 years ago 5
It wasn't really his fault though. One has to remember the limited sources he had access to and the politico-religious climate in which he lived. Also, I agree with you on the matter of his drawing attention to Roman hypocrisy and general moral decay.
phytoalexa 2 years ago
wow they should teach this in schools.... merchant of venice my ass...
fsandt 3 years ago 34
they teach it in my school XD
hellraiderz 3 years ago
We perform it at my school.
Too many girls in Drama, so I ended up playing Saturninus.
JinxHexhazard 3 years ago
ya we did titus this year
Jumpincloud 2 years ago
We did some kind of weird version like Taymor did, only with more of a punk rock edge. I had to cut all my hair off (I had a short little mohawk) and the girl playing Lavinia had like neon colored hair...It was without a doubt the weirdest thing I've ever done.
JinxHexhazard 2 years ago
While this is a good play, "Merchant of Venice" is also excellent. If anything, they should stop teaching that piece of crap, "Romeo and Juliet", and introduce students to "King John" or "Merry Wives of Windsor".
phytoalexa 2 years ago
totally agree! but a lot of topics are so hard to explain at the medium school :(
TeenageSuicideDoIt 2 years ago
Romeo and Juliet is not crap. It's just over done.
FRAZELMINTASTIC 2 years ago 25
@fsandt I was taught it in college actually.
BadBillboard 1 year ago
@fsandt They really don't do the tragedies enough. They do R&J, but never the really great ones that are about how to live life and be a good person.
niceworkmicrosoft 1 year ago
@fsandt Hey, I LOVE Titus Andronicus, I really do, but...HOW, exactly, do you find fault with The Merchant of Venice to such a degree...
I mean really, it's not only a classic, it's one of the best "comedies," it's a Top 10 Shakespeare play, it gives some of the best lines--all that glsitens is not gold, the infamous "Hath not a Jew eyes?" speech, the whole pound-of-flesh plot--as well as a great commentary on social and religious effects on societies...that old "preach what you teach" bit...
obiwanobiwan13 1 year ago
@fsandt I watched this film in school for first time
rodrigomacias 1 year ago
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littleperp1 1 year ago
@fsandt they taugh it in our school, in a class of very immature fourteen year old girls...very bad idea :(
littleperp1 1 year ago
@fsandt i am learning this in school right now
notpopcorn 3 months ago
thank you for uploading this movie!! i love this movie!
nero1353 3 years ago 2
Thanks for the upload.
lisambofoh 3 years ago 15
Welcome :)
Overimaginated 3 years ago