bygINCpresents, OIL (Black and Liquid in Modernity) --Pt. 2, OLD SCHOOL VALUES

[RLW1967]

This video is right on point, man.

[bygINCpresents]

thank you. let others know. pass the links along.

[bahabdoulaye]

u are very SMART and INTELLECTUAL. you frame your messages in a way that a not so smart guy would not understand. I often struggle to understand the deep meaning of wat u say. GOOD JOB MAN!!

[bygINCpresents]

"a not so smart guy WOULD NOT understand"? i'm confused. glad you think i'm doing a good job but am i saying anything that makes sense? is there a message, some meaning coming thru? if so, what are you hearing? as a writer, it's my job to connect to you. it's almost as if YT folks are saying, "sounds nice brotha, byg. it's obvious you think about stuff but... too much. i can't go with you. don't know where you going really... but it sounds good"... thank you bahab.

[bahabdoulaye]

Noooooo!! the message is great. all am saying is that it takes me a lot of effort to really get the point, the theme, what u are trying to communicate. i understand the words u use but how they all connect to the theme. For instance this video right here, can you tell me what is the theme. what are u trying to tell us. Maybe if i can understand this one and how u emphasized the theme, am probably gon get the other ones too. i love ur videos very much and want to make sure i understand them all.

[bygINCpresents]

thanks for being honest. i want folks to understand my work. this video for example talks bout lost values. folks say kids today have none. we're heathens, i guess. there are reasons why. many values that applied to our parents and grandparents don't seem relevant in this modern life. that's not the truth but it seems so. our lives are too fast, too linked, too convoluted. we have yet to create the language to talk about what we go through. some people are trying. i mention comedians...

[bygINCpresents]

like chris rock, dave chappelle or shows like boondocks that hint at the layers or our young reality. i'm drawing a connection between the history of black struggle, the values people fought thru and what's worth fighting for now. but you're right. i need to get to a point quickly and stay there. that's how videos and speeches should work. this is pt 2 of 5. when you have time, watch them all & let me know if there's an overall theme. maybe i should start again and emphasize 5 points more.

[TisWeDaPeople]

i was on my moms page and i was reading some of the comments (btw i'm 17) .you're talking about lost values in this vid right? that old folks say that kids my age have none. true to a small percentage of the youth of today. You see in my school most students say that the teachers nag them to get their grades up or else they'll fail. that may be true to some but i think that most students say that due to peerpressure and just follow popular opinion.

due to that ,my school has alot of dropouts.

[bygINCpresents]

the vast majority of people in the world are good. but like any movie you watch, good is boring. there needs to be conflict. we find good's opposite in anything we do in life. makes the hours seem interesting, especially when we're young. in your school, your function is to set the example. someone may see that. you never know, you may save a life. on my page, i talk about my school days in a school like yours. click on my MIDDLE SCHOOL videos and tell me if you relate... don't drop out.

[TisWeDaPeople]

thnx for such a quick reply!

but my school also has a high rate of students passing

(me being one of them and still waiting for a new education).

some teachers just give up on teaching when the going gets tough while others still make an effort to be there.

my techer said and i Quote: "i don't have to be here i choose to be here why i'm here?

someone has to make sure you pass"

him saying that really made alot of sense to me.

[bygINCpresents]

funny thing is i'm up preparing for a speech i have to give in 3 hrs at a "back to school rally" for young kids. (life has a way of reminding you when you're doing the right thing.) i want to spend my life focused on kids like you who know and do better. no one talked to us when i was young. much of the energy of my school was spent controlling the bad kids. it's the same anywhere in the world... what's next for you? college?

[Xarscum]

Okay i'm the user that was using my moms account to post some comments.

sry for the typo but i guess you understand what i mean.the one that made sure i went to school was my mom.

while most of classmates really did'nt make any effort to go to school.

and i agree on your point of most people being good and that they say good is boring.

the point being some people becoming "Emo" or "blood","crip" just because they find life boring or something like that.

[bygINCpresents]

ppl do things for 8 million reason. at the core is a search for meaning love, specifically love of self. if your family ain't reinforcing the best in you, until you know better, the bloods and the crips may. that choice simply comments on the lacking options in your life. the more options you have, the more people around that give a damn about you --your mom-- the less boring life seems. you in amsterdam? what problem are major there for you and your friends?

[Xarscum]

the main problem in amsterdam?

or rather in holland is that the government says the youth have lost their path's and resort to Drinking, smoking (pot),and violence and other stuff.the main reason why this happens is because the government does'nt believe in its youth and the youth back this up by giving the government what it wants. NEGATIVE FEEDBACK.

and what's next for me? it's college.

[bygINCpresents]

haven't alcohol and drugs, specifically, pot, been in holland for a while now? what has changed? is it the perception that the "newcomers" in a more diverse society are making the ills of that society more evident? the dutch now have to look at themselves the way a newcomer would --the way a young child will not hold back and show you the exact negativity you've taught them. and it's more than drugs. it's about a changing culture of inclusion... any truth is this?

[Xarscum]

you're right on the spot there,

but some "coffee" shops in holland tend to not ask for ID when a minor is coming to buy Pot.While some do ask for ID and ban the minor.

also because the age restriction to coffeeshops is set to 18 most kids around 13-14 still try to get some because it's "cool"

the drug problem is mostly trying to act cool in front of people your own age,

is this the same in the US too?

or entirely different since Pot is illegal in the US.

cuz it's mostly peer pressure.

[bygINCpresents]

the acting "cool" for your friends thing doesn't have any borders.

[TisWeDaPeople]

As a woman born in the 70ties and growing up in the 80ties. As youngsters we were lucky because we grew up as people hanging out together in a schoolyard. The group demographic was made out of different nationalities, we hung out with first names and not passports.

Nowadays with a nationalist government the kids grow up with more separation from eachother, more emphasis on the negative side of the 'unknown' rather than celebrating the richness of a diverse society.

[TisWeDaPeople]

Discrimination has been growing explosively in the past 4 years and politicians take the mainstage in discriminating newcomers. Being married to a Jamaican man who has been having trouble just trying to visit his kids, gettin no visa, because hey, he's from a country that is not an EU-affiliate and therefor must be having a hidden agenda for coming to a wealthy society. The dutch culture is based on colonialism, integration-assimilation-absor­btion. When you dont fit the norm, they scared of you.

[TisWeDaPeople]

Being of Maluku descend (former Spice Islands)my community was brought to this country in the 50ties and greeted with busloads of white dutch people, throwing bananas and peanuts over the fence of the camps (trying to feed the monkeys) they put my grandparents in. Now the government is turning back time and try to colonialise the peoples mind all over again and actually find soil to do it. Good thing not all new/oldcomers and dutch buy into the crap, we teach decolonisation of ourselves. OneLove

[terripin99]

As A old radical type white guy, I wont pretend to understand the pain of the struggle. However the young folks of today, will find people had many of the same interests and concerns then & relate them to now- one can see how these issues were dealt with differently at different historical times & those activists helped shape changes in history.

I enjoy listening to your takes on "then & now" - & I often hope my generation efforts had some positive results- You show me some got thru*

[bygINCpresents]

it's been a while since folks like me saw efforts like that on a huge scale. you grew up when change was visible b/c THEN a new medium was bringing it to your living room. that was a radical thing in itself. today there are activists and ideas. they just get drowned out NOW b/c that medium that brought you radical thought just entertains us. people power gets lost in transmission. the system has networked. the enemy is bigger, faster, stronger. takes an olympian effort to get him.

[hubbardproductions]

i only got the point from 07:50 onwards, the struggle of free will against the organizing and rigidity those ruling and trying to control society,

i like how you said it was the caveman with the strongest will. i see nowadays that real freedom is being replaced by entertainment freedom. the only way to get real freedom nowadays is to work tirelessly against the inconveniences,

Freedom is only for the person who has enough will to enslave-themselves to their work.

[hubbardproductions]

because with real freedom comes with the problem of those who like to abuse their freedoms, i.e. those who steal. i would like to be free to drive as fast as i want, but that freedom is taken away.

If i was free to drive how i wanted i could crash ending up killing someone... i think i am rambling now...

[bygINCpresents]

that's fine. as long as something resonated with you. did you see part 1? and it's not so much entertainment freedom as entertainment distraction. real freedom is the ability to be yourself in the midst of a collective. yes, drive as fast as you want, but why, when there are 2 yr old kids playing in the streets. the individual is free when he understands his role in a society and how the best of him serves the most of us.

[mzsuzuki]

This liquid state is also causing havoc in the educational system especially in the urban areas. Teachers want the parents that came from the solid state even if they were born at the end of the solid state, closer to the beginning of the liquid state. The PTA rules are based upon the solid state. A time where mothers stayed at home and helped at the school. Now mothers work two jobs and that type of structure is not at home. Education in a liquid state means teaching transient students.

[mzsuzuki]

Students who have parents who are running from being evicted. About 50 percent of the students I work with stayed at the same school from K-5 and will stay at the same school from 6-8. It might me a little less. Teaching students in a liquid society can be stressful. In the solid society, the teacher attended the church that her students attended. They were highly regarded and respected.

[bygINCpresents]

absolutely. i see the transition b/c where i was born, even though the world was becoming liquid, my island was very much solid. i sometimes think i've lived through the entire black lifetime in my few years on earth. from native land with african ancestry, strong communities, leaders, tradition, trip across the ocean to the new world, racism, going thru accepting who i was and learning to thrive despite that history. it's something. kids need to learn this liquid transition... teach it.

[mzsuzuki]

So do you feel your island is still in a solid state?..Because I read somewhere in an analysis of Bauman that people in a poverty state of mind remain in a solid state even the general population is in a liquid state.

[bygINCpresents]

there are wanna be bloods and crips in my hometown. nowhere is immune to corporate culture, violence, means to an end. the water spreads until it is stopped. bauman's liquid world exists for those w/baggage and can travel. if you have no internet service & can't move freely, you can't be part of this age? you need access and the ability to disconnect on your own terms. i'm not a bauman expert but that's my reading. poverty halts connection and makes disconnection & movement impossible.

[bygINCpresents]

exactly. anything in the liquid state means teaching, working with transience, impermanence. let the kids move around the classroom. movement, change is our life. i was watching a vid yesterday about new math v old man in school. as long as the kids get to the right answers, who cares. as long as they make sense of the process for themselves. the problem is , the state and the nat'l tests are based on the old way. it costs money to change. new rubrics and such. why change.

[mzsuzuki]

True..Teachers in my district can teach math using constructivism which is what you are talking about in regards to new math vs. old math. I also try to use the socratic method when teaching science but it is hard because it takes a lot of time and energy.

[bygINCpresents]

energy is spent in the liquid world fighting the current. precious time for much else. teachers and leaders are needed. i'll talk bout leaders in the next vid.

[Monton85]

Oh man..you put the scene with King from Boondocks? He really told off the people at church in that episode..

[bygINCpresents]

i put the image from "boondocks". the words are from one of mlk's real life speeches.

[kakashifan995]

So true!!!!!!! thanks for posting!!

[kakashifan995]

i just finished the autobiography of Malcolm X and what u say is all true thanks for posting i really enjoyed this vid!

[bygINCpresents]

thanks for your words.

[Steadno]

Wonderful piece!

[bygINCpresents]

what was insightful for you? have you read bauman? heard of liquid modernity before? where does blackness fit into that future? will it inevitably die like all connections to race, people-hood, country in a future moving towards bondless gas?... feel me?

[Timeout123]

Now that we are in a state of Liquid Modernity and there is no major structure holding us down, it all comes down to each and everyone of us to either construct a new solid modernity that benefits us or keep living the life we live now.

[bygINCpresents]

not so much holding down as nothing bonding man to man. that bond existed even during the holding down. can't assume the melting to this liquid was where human history wanted man. 100,000 yrs of social collective and BAM! individual wants the last 40 yrs? doesn't fit with me. i'll deal with this state & progress but... we're going beyond human. everyone can't create our own solid. like pool, it would be constant friction, banging, grinding. figure out the game then everyone wins. not just one.

[AbbottSupreme]

The liquid withers, but eventually, it returns!! One/Bless

[bygINCpresents]

liquid doesn't become solid again... not for a while. it evaporates. that's a dangerous proposition for community, attachment to black history, believe in social movements that need collective movement. a bondless, loose world, all of us floating in the air like vapor... but you're right. vapor becomes rain that falls eventually. rivers fill up and civilization reforms around that heaven-sent water supply... bless.

[Nuru305]

Once again great video. I think we need to go back in order to find where our place is in this so called modern time. So many of us are lost and lossing our children to this modernity. We have no ties to anything and were just floating along looking for the meaning of this life and trying desparately to make some type of stamp on life.

[Heru666]

The black culture have serious problem in America. The problem (because of a lack of identity) is that you take the identity the elite want you to have. The street gang nigger who dream about money, power, violence is the perfect new world order citizen. The Caucasian world is nearly dead... kill by his own demon...

[blackberryjuice1]

interesting analysis...

[bygINCpresents]

not done yet. our life is broad in the liquid world. liquid spreads and touches everything. gotta talk about everything. come back soon.