Noam Chomsky and Dr. .Dre Present: "The Watcher/Propaganda"

[resteep]

@hoppercap cues from the jews is a good rhyme.

are you a raper?

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@hoppercap Israel Shamir? Sounds like a dirty jew to me!

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@hoppercap Because the jews are trying to undermine good Christian Culture?

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@hoppercap homophobia-phobia?

Sorry to oppress your intollarence.

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@hoppercap homophobe.

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@hoppercap what if i love you in a gay way?

[theMETALDOVE]

@resteep

you-re almost right, only i don't have a tivo, i don't have a television and i'm certain that is not the way to spell queer.

you're not still on the other side of the world proclaiming that the marxist utopia is upon us are you?

is it true that chomsky played the bass on kiss' "detroit rock city" ?

[resteep]

@theMETALDOVE No, that was Bakunin or maybe Bookchin. But Chomsky has been known to work with Immortal Teknique! I've even go the video to prove it.

So, you still pretending to not be a Republican?

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@theMETALDOVE oh, and only kwirs spell kwir 'queer', fascist.

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@theMETALDOVE I bet you tivo the fucking ten choice awards, you kwir.

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@hoppercap You, 'sir', are the tool. Go jerk off to some nickelback or whatever nonsense you think is cool.

[resteep]

@hoppercap You, 'sir', are the tool. Go jerk off to some nickelback or whatever nonsense you think is cool. But stay away from Chomsky. He might learn you something.

[resteep]

@hoppercap You're corporate propaganda.

[optimistsRUS]

The music is annoying, let me listen to Chomsky!!

[resteep]

@optimistsRUS Thanks for tuning in! This is a Chomsky speech ("On propaganda", i believe) that is available on many different youtube videos without any annoying drums to ruin your experience.

Be well, friend.

[optimistsRUS]

@resteep,

Thank you very much for the response. No offense to Dr. Dre, I was frustrated because I wasn't expecting music, I am so ignorant that I thought "Dr. Dre" meant it was going to be some intellectual talk and not music.

[resteep]

@optimistsRUS ah, yes, a speech by well-known physicist Dr. Dre of Compton California. :-)

Be careful ,i have another chomksy speech with annoying drums on my channel, too.

[optimistsRUS]

@resteep,

I'm sure your post helped spread the message to people who were searching for Dr. Dre and weren't familiar with Noam Chomsky.

[resteep]

@optimistsRUS That's probably what i had hoped, but i suspect most people had an experience similar to yours.

Oh well.

Chomsky's just boring and monotone, i thought i'd make it more interesting.

[optimistsRUS]

@resteep,

Yeah, probably Chomsky fans didn't like the music and Dr. Dre fans didn't like the talking :D

[resteep]

@optimistsRUS Pretty much. But I liked it. I think there should be more informative anarchist rap instrumentals in the world, and i'm just trying to do my part.

Be Well.

[resteep]

pre-conceived notions and hubris it is, then...

[resteep]

Loving this conversation, ya'll. Truly. Metaldove is my new hero.

Who do I have to insult to keep it going?

Maybe if I say Jay Z *is* subversive, but you wouldnt know it unless you have taken more than 3 minutes to listen to him on the radio on your way to the mall with your little sister?

[resteep]

The notion that an artist who is intelligent enough to work with the tools available in the 'mainstream' music industry is a 'sellout', or corporate propaganda' is a cliche of the whiite suburban punk rock culture. 'Yeah, we can't allow poor people to make money and own their own companies. Their supposed to join our white elite intellectual revolution!"

[theMETALDOVE]

and how does the govt empower itself.

by standing on the throats of people, like jay z, who earned his fortune...i don't like his music, but that is irrelevent.

you do not have to be wealthy to be able to see what is right and what is wrong.

if jay z makes 10 million dollars the irs will steal 5 million. the irs didn't sell any records. produce any shirts, mix anyhting, no, they steal because they can.

what does obama suggest, we take still more from jay z and the other 1% of america.

[dilbertgeg]

if jay z makes 10 million dollars...

NYTimes had a story that 10 million is the BOTTOM of true wealth in America, minimum level to get invited to high society.

Some was earned by producing useful stuff people want. Nowadays, big way to make money is to do an LBO, fire as many people as possible, sell parts, take on vast debt using co and employee pension fund as collateral, milk it to death.

Other methods speculating on intl currencies and mortgage-backed securities, and govt subsidy.

[resteep]

@theMETALDOVE Taxes are a part of life. Render unto Ceaser and all that. You people had no problem paying for taxes under a Republican Administration. And don't give me that 'i'm an independent' crap. It's as transparent as Karl Rove is gay.

[theMETALDOVE]

it has always baffled me that libs and leftist are so concerned over everybodies salry. why? jay z could be the richest man in the world for all i care. the fact that he came from such humble beginnings is his most admirable trait.

my point was that he is not a rebel. he may have been at one time, but that was probably at least 10 or 20 million dollars ago.

i'm all for the empowerment and wealth for individuals, any individual, it;s the govt. empowering itself that i have the problem with

[resteep]

You do know that this track does not feature Jay-Z, right? It's Noam Chomsky. I only brought up Jay-Z because you guys seemed to be discussing 'gangster rappers,', and there is a version of this song featuring his vocals. This isn't that version, though.

Also, i have no idea why your \rambling on about President Obama, or the IRS, exactly. Is that in relation to something Chomsky is saying about Corporate Propaganda and how the public mind is shaped and molded?

Thanks for commenting, though.

[theMETALDOVE]

i didn;t think it was jay z.. jay z productions are more polished and his voice is quite distinct.

i wondered about that rambliing after i closed up the macbook. it was an entirely new subject and was being explained incoherently. i'm not a strong closer.

i guess i was pointing out how jay z earned his money whether you liked him or not--and how unfair for obama or any president to want, to compel 40% righ off the top.

you never mentioned who your fave. politc thinkers are?

[resteep]

And Chomsky doesn't say "GGeah!" and "It's the Roc" very often. at least not here.

I have no interest in debating the merits of the US tax system in this thread.

For the sake of the vid, let us say i like some of what Chomsky says, depending on the specific issues.

[resteep]

Also, do you have any specific comments in relation to the video, or merely other people's comments?

The main reason I chose to mix these two tracks (and the dead prez video) together was i thought they worked well with each other--"Corporate Propaganda is "Watching you". Get it, yes?

My hope is maybe, just maybe, someone looking for a Jay Z or Dr. Dre video might get turned on to Mr. Chomsky's concepts being discussed here.

[resteep]

Of course, as austa10 points out below, this is just some bs that we already know.

[theMETALDOVE]

i would comment but i wasn't listening to chomsk. he turns my stomach...sorry.

[theMETALDOVE]

you mean just because they clearly pander to the sensibilities of the white suburban class who incidentally are happy to give their money to any such "artist" that makes them, the pimple faced 17 year old white boy in the hyundaiu, feel just a little bit tougher. ...(i know that's a run on sentence, incidentally. i was going for the record)

[austa10]

This is just some bs that we already know make video of what I'm lookin for wich is Dr. Dre- The Watcher

[resteep]

@austa10 No, You.

[austa10]

@resteep fag

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@austa10 No, youl

[chumpusmaximusohnose]

lit up a fatty whilst watching this tight vid

dont know what that means?? means i smoke weed.. ok

[theMETALDOVE]

what makes this video so "tight"? seriously, what was the part or aspect that stuck out for you? was there a moment when you said damn "honey, are the kids in bed? get my blunts and come in here. i want you to watch this. bring a 20 pound bag of dorrtos too"

[boxpilot]

you're a genius

[JTravisRolko]

you're an idiot