i have to admit i was convinced that haye would knock him out easily, i cant begin to tell you how embarrassed i feel now. haye fought pathetically!! he should have hung his head in shame.
great britain is disgusted by how he fought. i got sucked in by him. i always thought i knew something about boxing, guess i dont!!!
If I've learned one thing from being involved in boxing it's this: Straight is great. Klitschko has some of the best straight punches in boxing period, the straight shot is almost always quicker than a hook or haymaker, it's kind of strange to me that Haye never matured beyond those looping hayemaker shots in his style. I will say another thing ragu, in fencing the jump forward move has to foot sideways so you can lunge in quickly, if you practice you can get a good three feet on it. Great vid.
@rjbonacolta True. But is that for power? The lunge in has to be both for boxing. The Foil will take care of the rest when you lunge in. I still bet you go farther with your foot straight though.
ive noticed in the fight when haye used his straight left jab coming from the peekaboo style instead of his jab coming from the bottom (as he sometimes drops his left hand), and then followed with a hook, he landed the hook well. some of the best shots haye landed on wlad were landed after his jab. the dude above me is right to say if he used straight punches it would have been better IF he followed with a 2ndary/3rd combo punch.
@kingkevinjoy True, but that would have meant that Haye needed to change his entire fighting style. He's fought his entire career with the low left and 1-2 punches. Tall order to fill. Don't forget, you fight how you train and you can't just magically switch it up once that bell sounds.
@bigragu - having the right foot ata right angle to the body when lunging in creates drag , its detrimental in boxing and sword fighting ( kenjutsu and Iaido ) cant speak for foil.
really bad form on hayes part - his trainer should have picked up on it ages ago , with your stance set at a right angle your also not using your balance correctly.
@ThePanzerfist44 It makes you wonder who trains these guys and why I'm not making that money training them the right way! :) My coach was on me from day 1 to keep that foot straight and not cocked sideways. It's not uncomfortable but you are aware of it. And yes, your balance is better because you move more naturally.
lol try rolling on ur foot without putting pressure on last 2 toes, when throwing a right, it is impossible unless stand side on and put pressure on the other side
wladimir didnt do the majority of the things he said he was going to do, haye didnt get KO'd, compared to his previous opponents Haye wasnt dominated, Haye didnt get "pizza Face" infact after the fight Wladimir looked worse
at the end of the day Wladimir is still looking for a career defining fight and there is nobody left
Wlad and Vitali both would put their titles on the line to fight Haye.. As much as Haye lost by a wide decision, Haye actually put up a pretty good fight and never really looked like getting ko'd.
im not a haye fan, i knew how this was gonna go. but to say haye goin to the ground bcos wlad was leaning on him is a sneaky tactic then its horse shit! wlad does it to try and sap peoples strength so do u expect haye to stand der and take it?
i can see that u do not like haye and i understand because i dont like him either but i think u came across as a bit of a "haye-ter"
on holding i thought the falling to the floor was a good tactic as it puts the referee in an uncomfortable position, Haye is breaking up the fight by falling but he is falling because wlad is holding he has to take action (i can see future boxers doing the same)
alot of people hating on haye is due to them expecting a KO, i saw it coming an bet Wlad by points
sorry pal i have to mark u down on this 1, alot of points :this was the most "competitive" fight Klitschko has been in as Haye was sort of still competitive unlike all of his last fight, not saying it was a good fight i am saying they were both disappointing
u have overcounted the wladimir klitschko right hand, iv watched the fight 3 times and neither fighter landed many rights, infact wlad landed about 3 flush all fight he usually lands 5 or 6 per round
yo ragu is paul williams a bust or what??!!! And judah!!! Getting trained by sweet pea!!! What are your thoughts?? I think thats more knowledge than roach coach sweet pea was fuckin bad!!! In his days!! He beat oscar when they im just saying im just saying i was likw 16 or 17 when i saw that fight anyways i think parnells gonna help judah alot what do u think??
...if Adamek beats Vitali, get real, this will be a similar fight to Wlad vs Haye, a huge heavyweight with a piston jab vs a cruiser champ with speed and skill but as they say a good big guy will always beat a good little guy, thats why there is weight classes in this sport, it aint a fair fight although Vitali was sloppy in his last fight vs Solis getting hit a lot only Solis was flabby and weak, Actually what did you think of that ko lol, what the hell was that! :)
Haye was completly neutrilised by Wlads jab so had no choice than look for that one very low percentage big money shot to ko Wlad, who did get caught by it and may have even been hurt in the 12th only Wlad will know for sure he won't tell. Because Haye was reduced to this one big wild punch tactics he also knew that missing with that kind of power inveriably gives your opponent a great chance to deliver a huge counter punch so Haye went down every time he lost balance or felt Wlad could hurt him
Haye fighting with that broken little toe.Man it looked bad,I bet he won't do that again.He could have pulled the upset if fit.He should fight Adamek next.
@Rogokofats , i've broken many bones legs wrist , ankles , fist , arms , i've even been shot in the neck by a 9 mm round last year, but last Christmas i had cellulitis in my little toe and it was the worst pain i've had , spent 6 hours in a /e on xmas day , haye got beat, but wald should of kod him, haye took big shots which i thought he couldnt , wald was as much as a let down as haye, he should of kod him as haye was as open as a brothel . there's no 1 left , fury chisora not ready .
Hey big man, I know you mentioned the footwork, do you think that the reported toe injury had anything to do with that? I hadn't noticed it in Haye's other fights so that seems fairly logical.
I don't see Haye being interested in anything other than a Klitschko rematch, if he can't get one I think he'll retire.
Fight was less interesting that I hoped. Haye clearly had issues with the way the fight was reffed (as Booth brought up earlier).
I cant believe don king isn't in jail after all the shady things he has done in the past, bumping muhammad ali out of money in his fight with holms, sinking his claws into a young mike tyson and ruining him, getting wbc to give his fighters title shots, dodgy referees and jugdes, the list goes on lol
Haye fought exactly the same as his fights with Valuev, Ruiz, and Harrison. Potshotting and countering. No plan b whatsoever. Personally I think he should ditch booth and bring in Glen Johnson's trainer to teach him inside fighting. If he can master that skill with his speed and power he could cause some serious damage. Not gonna happen though, he's more likely to call in Justin Beiber!!
Who's the tougher man.easy David Haye Klitschko always fights guy's much smaller, Why didn't they ever fight Valuev, how long did Valuev have the belt anyways.and no challenge from klit.? Somebody get those robots out of there!
@tubertism Valuev was/is controlled by Don King. There was no way King was willing to lose a hold on the HW divisions belt. So he avoided the Klitschko's and decided to let Valuev fight the much smaller man in Haye.
@bigragu Its true but Vaulev was/is a Sauerland "champ" - so they dont want to let the K2 beat him. They exchange him for Haye only because Haye signed a contract with them (for 4 fights ). Thats why Sauerland push Haye to fight with Klitschko coz it was a last fight they participate in.( Big money) Hayes plan was to avoid K2 till he fill the contract (he planned fight with Chagayev) and take whole money from next Klitschkos fight but... Sauerland threatened that Haye could loss on PTS with Ch
@sweetbounty Make sense. Hard to believe it took this long for Haye to fight Wladimir. Seems like Haye is always injured when it comes to the Klitschko's. First the hand after Valuev to draw out the fight, then the "Back" injury and now the toe.
watch the fight again bro. you are such a klitchko love boy. Hay made klits miss all night. This was klits most entertaining fight. because of haye . Rematch klitscko goes down.!!!
@tubertism What? Are you for real? Look at Haye's face two days after the fight, there's a lot of bruises even for a guy who was running the entire fight.
Loving the street fight analogy - shows where THE ragu is coming from!!
I was most disappointed by Haye's supposedly great gameplan - jumping in and hoping that one wild hayemaker knocks him out, or bringing a 1,2 at best is no good style either. He implemented one part of the plan though- not allowing Wlad to lean his weight on him..
Where the hell is Povetkin?!! Rumour has it that he is hiding in the bigragu's humongous fridge!
I think the boxing board should force the Klitschko`s to fight each other because they are avoiding the genuine challenge from each other ?, no other boxer would be allowed to refuse a fight without being stripped of their title .. and apart from that` I am just being mean because I want to see them fight .. ha ha. I think Evander Holyfield should challenge the Brothers ... okay I know he is prehistoric and nobody would take him seriously .. but He could surprise us all.
@CARLOS62B I think Evander was after a fight with Vitali at some point in the last year or two so we will probably get to see them two fight at some point before one of them retires I reckon.
@bigragu ... I think the Klitschko style of fighting would be the perfect pace for Evander ... plus I think he would really make them work for those dollars too. Evander has got much slower for sure` but he still has that fighters heart and I believe he could give them both a good fight over the full distance.
"no boxer would be allowed to REFUSE A FIGHT" - well the Klitschkos DONT REFUSE, because they DONT DEMAND a fight! as simple as that. Also they are not in the same Organisations anyway.
PS. if you're bored, check out some Vitali Klitschko KICKBOXING videos on youtube. they're fun to watch.
@Xandrule1 ... I DO have a Younger Brother ... He did Karate and I did Boxing for a while.
Did we fight .... Hell yes` like cat & dog ... then we went out and got drunk together. Surely Wladimir must be tempted to try and claim all the belts for himself ? .. even if they did it as a publicity stunt` the Whole boxing World would be glued to their seats.
@Xandrule1 ... I DO have a Younger Brother ... He did Karate and I did Boxing for a while.
Did we fight .... Hell yes` like cat and dog ... then we went out and got drunk together. Surely Wladimir must be tempted to try and claim all the belts for himself ? .. even if they did it as a publicity stunt` the Whole boxing World would be glued to their seats.
I think this was a boring and an ugly fight. I think they got scared of eachothers power after both getting nailed with a solid right hand. Sadly this caused them to avoid the real fights in the fight, Wlad didnt follow up after making Haye mis and Haye didnt throw more thn 2 punch combo's because they wer scared to get hit. In the end Wlad's jab made the difference. They are now looking at the winner of Tyson fury vs Derek Chisora. However I was extremely dissapointed by Wlad's performance.
Ragu on another note how much faith do you put in the rumours of Khan Mayweather for next Autumn? Personally i quite like the idea. I think Khan has a better chance to beat him than anyone else in and around that weight apart from pacman i feel his speed is a match for PBF and his punches in bunches could make for an interesting fight.
The sad truth is that the K2 are head and shoulders above the rest of the division and Haye who got it handed to him is probably still a legitimate top 5 HW. He doesnt have the power like he did at Cruiser but at least he comes in fit and has the stamina to go 12. I also thought his sheer speed kept him from getting his clock totally cleaned by Wlad. The key for him beating Wlad was taking away that jab which he couldnt do. He offers plenty of problems for most of the other HW outside the bros
@themook1980 Yes, once the K Bro's retire the division will explode and there will be tons of competitive title fights. Unfortunately, it will be lesser competition that will get blown up to be better simply because the fighters fighting will be closer to equal and not near the Klitschko's level. So if you think the HW division is down now, imagine how weak it will be when they're gone.
We 're supposed to believe he fought like this due to a broken toe? More like a lack of balls! I mean if you have a broken toe AND you talked smack like Haye did then you SHOULD attack flat out after the first bell, let it all hang out, go for the puncher's chance! You DON'T jump around and run for 12 rounds hoping for sympathy from the referee! Epic fail from Booth and Haye on this one!
@ Bigragu - you forgot to mention how Haye shook Wlad to his boots in the 12th and received a 45 second hug for his trouble. You give that round to Klitschko? I don't see it.
@vaxinate That punch came with less than 15 seconds left in the fight. If you give a round based on 1 punch landing after spending most of the round eating jabs then I guess you would score that round for Haye. I didn't. 1 punch does not wipe out the other 2:45 seconds that were dominated by Klitschko.
@bigragu It wasn't quite with 15 seconds left in the round because Wlad was hugging for at least 30. I definitely think it's worth a mention that I fighter literally couldn't let go of his opponent for fear of being ko'd. I personally think a monster punch cancels out many many jabs. Just as 1 gold medal counts more than 1000 silver medals in an Olympic mdeal table.
@klitschkobrosfan Haye sunk to the floor every time Klit put his weigh on him illegally. Haye was determined not to be bullied that way like so many other Klit opponents. Haye really wasn't that bad in the fight.
@bigragu umm...but like you said, who has Vlad got left to fight??? Guys with 10 - 15 fights on their record? Despite the hype surrounding this particular fight, the aftermath reminds us now of how poor the division still is....
I think Haye can actually beat Wladamir if they have a rematch. If he seriously had a broken toe than that explains his poor performance. Not being able to plant and throw really slows down your speed and gives off less power. Hopefully they do have a rematch and there is nothing wrong with David Haye, then I will really judge him.
@DevilsFan973 I wouldn't say raped him, he barely landed on him. I guarantee it will be closer if they fight again, if there is nothing wrong with David Haye next time they fight, it will be entertaining
Haye didn't do bad in my opinion. But he still disappointed, considering all his boasting he would go in there and blast Wlad. He was clearly afraid of getting hit, and all the rolling down on the canvas looked plain ridiculous. He was trying to get Wlad DQ'd. And then the toe excuse, ha ha! Wlad dominated him from start to finish and he should just acknowledge that, period. I would like to see Haye vs Vitali, if Haye doesn't retire as he said he would.
You know the worlds gone mad when after the fight the former HEAVYWEIGHT champion of the world takes off his boot to show everybody his broken little toe and then proceeds to use that little pinky as an excuse for why he may of lost the fight. Just imagine Ali,Foreman, Tyson or even Lewis doing that. Lol it was pathetic and what is even more laughable is that some fans actually believed him.
Haye dissappointed me big time in this fight. He should have realized soon in the fight his gameplan wasn't working, whatever the reason, and wen't for it. He took some bombs from Klitschko (atleast it looked like that for me) and SHOULD have risked it, because he was not going to win on points.
I was, after analyzing Haye/Klitschko before the fight looking for the counter right hand from Haye, but he was unable to, and didn't even look for it in my opinion. Looked to predictable..
The fight reminded me of Eddie Chambers .. both Eddie and Dave are good quick defensive boxers .. had Dave wanted to fight and exchange with Vlad he would have been KOed in short order .. Vlad only used Jab and onetwos .. Haye sparred with Helenius and Hel dominated him with strength .. Vitali now wants to fight Haye .. always thought that would be a better fight .. Vlad wants winner of Chis and Fury .. will be a great fight Chis is unknown tough and brave.
@mbrookscontact I don't think either of those 2 are ready for that big of a step up in class yet. But with the way the division is going it almost seems like that's the best matchup.
Haye is a poor loser. I read on yahoo sports that Haye may get a shot at Vitali. Will Wlad give him a rematch? I think maybe so, Haye will still be Wlads biggest payday out of anyone. If he does get his rematch everything will be on Wlads terms and you can be sure it wont be before a few mind games have been played from the champs camp. Would I like to see a rematch? Yes because I would like to see Haye get beaten again by either brother for that matter.
@MrBasswelder Haye could get the shot at Vitali because he's upset/angered the big man. Vitali wants to punish Haye for running his mouth and the only way to do is in the ring.
bigragu quick question mate, do you think haye had the tools but didnt use them? i no youve said befor you liked his style and was getting better,,,,do you think adam booth could have played a part in the loss???
@bigragu Btw, if you watched the leadup conferences and sessions etc. to the fight, did you notice how well conditioned Wlad is - even WAY more than usual and facially I've NEVER seen him look more focussed, MEAN, ANGRY and full of HATE! lol
I think he may be at his best at the oment. Hope he can keep it up...
Hey Ragu,Rebecca Black music video was taken out of youtube. Have you ever considered a carreer as a Disney Channel singer or something. Remember not to take naked pictures of you and posting them on facebook for them to be hacked. It is a bad publicity strategy. JKNG!
Povetkin now should fight for WBA "regular" title vs chagaev. But he said for russian press that he "tired to wait for Klitschko fight" whatever it means.
@bigragu They were bragging about it in the UK as if it was gonna be fight of the year. I always knew the fight was gonna be crap, no way was i paying $24 for it plus the Khan fight is on PPV over here which i think is gonna be a much better fight.
Hypemaker was a big let down. He said I'm knocking out both K.Bros and bringing excitement to the div. I always thought that was bs cause Haye has not been an exciting HW. Both guys were very cautious, but Wlad was winning and doing his thing.
Haye shouldn't have been lunging in and putting his face in Wlad's crotch anyway. WTF was that shit? lol
@SquareRo0o0t i agree with you mate the english media are the kings of hype. they always big up our sportsmen like there the best and then when they lose they start shitting on them like they always thought they were going to lose. its the same with the england football team. the media suck everyone in with the constant hype. look at when hatton fought floyd our media made it out like it was a 50/50 fight which of course it wasnt and then when hatton got destroyed they suddenly call him overated
i wasnt impressed with either guy. haye didnt throw enough and i was surprised he didnt really go for it later on in the fight because i cantt believe he thought he was winning on points. he just seemed to stay on the back foot and allow wlad to pile up points. wasnt impressed with wlad either he should of been alot more agressive in there and didnt let his right go enough but tbh not surprised because thats how he always fights but i felt he should of took haye out. bit of a let down in the end
@MrJonnyl123 Wlad did respond every time Haye would land a good shot on him. The problem was that everytime Wlad opened up, Haye got close and then would go to the ground as they were tying up.
I hope Haye hangs around long enough to earn a rematch. Haye is better than what he produced in that fight, and the sad fact of the matter is there is nobody else for Wlad to fight anyway. Wlad was very impressive though - he made Haye look silly at times. His defence looked absolutley solid. It's a real shame that there aren't any more career defining fights out there for Wlad - he deserves to be dominating a better generation than this one.
This happens again and again, I was there in Hamburg.
It's happened time and time again, using us suckers...the British boxing fans(becuase there is alot of us) we get used to build up a big purse and then get shat on.
It's always happened, our (supposed) world beating boxers take on the best, and get fucked up...all british boxing fans get their hearts broken...and we give our hearts and money to a fighter that knows he's not going to win, only calzage and Lewis that hasn't fucked us.
Btw you gotta do a prospect perspective on English Heavyweight 'Richard Towers'
Hes 6,8" tall fantastic athletic shape,31yr old undefeated (only had 8 pro fights 8 wins 6 knockouts) Ex gangster who did a 6yrs of a 13yr prison sentece for kidnapping a man at gunpoint then tortured him with a steam iron, hammer and stun gun. Hes a proper rough house.
Hes got some bang in his punches too. Looking very promising.
I also dont want to see a rematch with Haye cashing in another 15 Mill for dropping on his knees 20 times to avoid blows.
I do however want to see Vitali Klitschko against Haye - but I think Haye doesn't have the guts to face this roughneck! ... well maybe the CASH will make him agree to a fight.
Great vid as always @Bigragu! living in the UK, i had to put up with the hype. Great having you as the ultimate goto guy! also, is that your washing machine i can hear in the background?
I couldnt help think Haye wasnt 100% in there for whatever reason,the whole fight was just strange. Id like to see a rematch,id rather see them 2 tangle again than i would Wlad fight people like Chisora. Huge payday for both too £15-£20 Million each,so why not!
Vitali said he would considerd knocking Haye out,that would obviously sell too. Many say Haye should fight unbeaten Povetkin to redeem himself and shut people up a bit.
i Uploaded Carl Frochs thought if u wanna listen,there funny.
@athleticguyUK Nobody comes out of a Wlad fight looking like they were 100% anymore. Hasn't happened in over 5 years. Vitali would make Haye fight, period. I don't think Haye wants that which is why he went for the easier brother first.
@bigragu Yeah i suppose. Gotta give it to Wlad,even though he used his same boring tactics he stepped them up to 11 and did what had to be done and he carried them off pretty much perfectly. I didnt like his tactics for when Haye got in close,the clinch and push to the canvas on the neck,German TV caught him red handed at the end of round 3,even stevie wonder could see it was on purpose. But then after round 6 Haye did start to milk them a bit.
@J0k3r4U Watch the fight again,Wlad landed atleast 5-9 big right hands,one of them was a real beauty.
plus Wlads jab is not to be sniffed at and Haye ate that all night long.
Wlads chin held up alrite too,although he backed away as Haye threw the big right hand taking some of the power out of them,he was caught with a couple Hayemakers that wobbled him a little,could see by his knees.
I live in the UK, everyone was going crazy about Haye saying he was gonna win. I remembered what you said about 2 years ago in a vid 'Everybody thinks they are gonna beat Klitschko until they get in the ring and get punched in the face,' You taught me not to underestimate Wlad.
very good question which I'd love to answer eventhough it was addressed at Bigragu. Vitali, whose also a very good boxing analyst, said at an interview that Haye lacked the power to knockout either of the Klitschkos.Apart from that, I said it in many of my comments that the knockouts of Wladimir were badly commented. He lost to Brewster and Purity ,cos like we all know,he overpowered himself. And to Sanders, it was also,partly nervous energy, panic. I believe he doesnt have a glass chin.
Hey big , I'm British but I agree that there should be no rematch I mean it wasn't even close! As for haye I expected a little more and the toe is no excuse , I actually thought that his head movement and reflexes were great he slipped a lot of wlad s shots but he didn't make him pay? He just couldn't get to the guys head! Wlad has perfected that customised European style to perfection and trust me this isn't the same guy that got ko by sanders he was still learning and now he has this perfecte
How did you like the fight? I think it didn't live up to expectations. I was disappointed by both fighters. Haye found no key to Wlad's defence and Wlad lacked agressivness. He should have knocked Haye out.
@netwette I thought Wlad would make this fight the way he does all of his. Get them into deep water and drown them. The problem was that everytime Wlad engaged Haye, Haye would tie up and then go down to the canvas.
hey Bigragu, what do you think about Wlads "glass" chin ? coz he took a few clean right so called "hayemakers" on his face and stood this very well. No wobbling etc.. My quest.: Is Wlad more durable today or Hayes power shots are simply overrated?
@sweetbounty It was a gr8 shot my Sanders, but he got up every time. His corner shouldve advised him better, instead of storming on Sanders on shaky legs and being hit hard again. he also admitted underrating his opponent and not taking the fight as serious as he shouldve.
@sweetbounty I believe Wlad is a complete fighter now. I believe the earlier losses were due more to inexperience and not having a gameplan for when something like that arose. He is much calmer now and set in his ways.
The klitchkos don't get enuff respect , without them the heavyweight division is a joke, to the point where even lennox said he felt like putting on his gloves lol. I can't remember ur prediction but i got the right fighter by decision. let me tell you that if tyson fury and derek chisora are future contenders then fuck it i'm digging out my gloves as well lol. good vid again ragu.
I expected as much from Haye, ever since he started calling the Klitschko's out. He's a bully and all bullies have no heart as soon as they sense they can't win. I don't think there is anyone left out there for the Klitschko's except each other but we all know and understand, that will never happen. I personally believe they are the greatest of this generation of heavyweights. I respect their style and enjoy it. They make everyone fight 'their' fight. The biggest key to winning! In any sport.
@mutchie6g LOL! I'd have to try the Tyson "Peek a Boo" style and make it rough from jump! Low blows, elbows and the like! :) Something to try to take him out of his game plan. But then I'd eat a couple of those jabs........ :)
Shame Haye's toe was broke lol. Man I really want Haye to Jump on Wlad thats the only way he was going to win wrong game plan, both guys took some decent shots it was a decent fight , I'm not to sure I would like to see a rematch, maybe Haye can fight Vitali but he will have more problems with him but maybe Vitali might trade wit him but whatever, Wlads the man and Haye needs to go ice his toe.
Honestly I don't think anyone (even in britain) would've been upset or ashamed of haye had he at least tried you know. If he would've made this a Hagler vs. Hearns type brawl and he got ko'd. yeah the Klit nuthuggers would've laughed but all in all I think there would've been appreciation for the event. Instead we were treated to Klitschko vs. Ibragimov Part II.
Haye said that Klitschko is boring and he would make a fight. But finally, he was staying far away, so it was Ibragimov 2. Haye is one who promised fight.
Klitschko promised jab and he did it :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
i have to admit i was convinced that haye would knock him out easily, i cant begin to tell you how embarrassed i feel now. haye fought pathetically!! he should have hung his head in shame.
great britain is disgusted by how he fought. i got sucked in by him. i always thought i knew something about boxing, guess i dont!!!
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TheTorn77 6 months ago
Hey BigRagu!!!
Nice singing:), why do you think that Klitschko pour Adamek?
In the past, Adamek showed that it is a really good boxer, he has speed and most important is clever boxer.
TheTorn77 6 months ago
hey ragu i heard vitali and wlad wana fight maybe do u know anything??
peace bro
lancetrodamus 7 months ago
Haye was in knockout or lose situation.
He didnt show his true ability but this result wasnt a suprise.
MaceXII 7 months ago
Haye is an embarrassment.
pumter 7 months ago
If I've learned one thing from being involved in boxing it's this: Straight is great. Klitschko has some of the best straight punches in boxing period, the straight shot is almost always quicker than a hook or haymaker, it's kind of strange to me that Haye never matured beyond those looping hayemaker shots in his style. I will say another thing ragu, in fencing the jump forward move has to foot sideways so you can lunge in quickly, if you practice you can get a good three feet on it. Great vid.
rjbonacolta 7 months ago
@rjbonacolta True. But is that for power? The lunge in has to be both for boxing. The Foil will take care of the rest when you lunge in. I still bet you go farther with your foot straight though.
bigragu 7 months ago
@bigragu
ive noticed in the fight when haye used his straight left jab coming from the peekaboo style instead of his jab coming from the bottom (as he sometimes drops his left hand), and then followed with a hook, he landed the hook well. some of the best shots haye landed on wlad were landed after his jab. the dude above me is right to say if he used straight punches it would have been better IF he followed with a 2ndary/3rd combo punch.
kingkevinjoy 7 months ago
@kingkevinjoy True, but that would have meant that Haye needed to change his entire fighting style. He's fought his entire career with the low left and 1-2 punches. Tall order to fill. Don't forget, you fight how you train and you can't just magically switch it up once that bell sounds.
bigragu 7 months ago
@bigragu - having the right foot ata right angle to the body when lunging in creates drag , its detrimental in boxing and sword fighting ( kenjutsu and Iaido ) cant speak for foil.
really bad form on hayes part - his trainer should have picked up on it ages ago , with your stance set at a right angle your also not using your balance correctly.
also Haye sucks ass.
ThePanzerfist44 7 months ago
@ThePanzerfist44 It makes you wonder who trains these guys and why I'm not making that money training them the right way! :) My coach was on me from day 1 to keep that foot straight and not cocked sideways. It's not uncomfortable but you are aware of it. And yes, your balance is better because you move more naturally.
bigragu 7 months ago
lol try rolling on ur foot without putting pressure on last 2 toes, when throwing a right, it is impossible unless stand side on and put pressure on the other side
wladimir didnt do the majority of the things he said he was going to do, haye didnt get KO'd, compared to his previous opponents Haye wasnt dominated, Haye didnt get "pizza Face" infact after the fight Wladimir looked worse
at the end of the day Wladimir is still looking for a career defining fight and there is nobody left
Markinho210 8 months ago
Wlad and Vitali both would put their titles on the line to fight Haye.. As much as Haye lost by a wide decision, Haye actually put up a pretty good fight and never really looked like getting ko'd.
P4PMike 8 months ago
How about Haye vs Vitali ???
walkerda5nine 8 months ago
im not a haye fan, i knew how this was gonna go. but to say haye goin to the ground bcos wlad was leaning on him is a sneaky tactic then its horse shit! wlad does it to try and sap peoples strength so do u expect haye to stand der and take it?
craigcliff316 8 months ago
@craigcliff316 exactly
johnnie160 8 months ago
Povetkin is fighting Chagaev for the WBA belt
Fury and Chisora are not ready lol i doubt either ever will be
The nordic Warrior is fighting Lachovich and isnt ready
heavyweight division is bust after that fight
EuropeanBoxingNews 8 months ago
i can see that u do not like haye and i understand because i dont like him either but i think u came across as a bit of a "haye-ter"
on holding i thought the falling to the floor was a good tactic as it puts the referee in an uncomfortable position, Haye is breaking up the fight by falling but he is falling because wlad is holding he has to take action (i can see future boxers doing the same)
alot of people hating on haye is due to them expecting a KO, i saw it coming an bet Wlad by points
EuropeanBoxingNews 8 months ago
sorry pal i have to mark u down on this 1, alot of points :this was the most "competitive" fight Klitschko has been in as Haye was sort of still competitive unlike all of his last fight, not saying it was a good fight i am saying they were both disappointing
u have overcounted the wladimir klitschko right hand, iv watched the fight 3 times and neither fighter landed many rights, infact wlad landed about 3 flush all fight he usually lands 5 or 6 per round
they were both hitting air
EuropeanBoxingNews 8 months ago
yo ragu is paul williams a bust or what??!!! And judah!!! Getting trained by sweet pea!!! What are your thoughts?? I think thats more knowledge than roach coach sweet pea was fuckin bad!!! In his days!! He beat oscar when they im just saying im just saying i was likw 16 or 17 when i saw that fight anyways i think parnells gonna help judah alot what do u think??
steveazusa 8 months ago
@steveazusa Judah has always had the ability physically. It's how he gets in close fights that his mind tends to betray him. Sweet Pea was a BAD MAN!
bigragu 8 months ago
...if Adamek beats Vitali, get real, this will be a similar fight to Wlad vs Haye, a huge heavyweight with a piston jab vs a cruiser champ with speed and skill but as they say a good big guy will always beat a good little guy, thats why there is weight classes in this sport, it aint a fair fight although Vitali was sloppy in his last fight vs Solis getting hit a lot only Solis was flabby and weak, Actually what did you think of that ko lol, what the hell was that! :)
PangeaSpreads 8 months ago
Haye was completly neutrilised by Wlads jab so had no choice than look for that one very low percentage big money shot to ko Wlad, who did get caught by it and may have even been hurt in the 12th only Wlad will know for sure he won't tell. Because Haye was reduced to this one big wild punch tactics he also knew that missing with that kind of power inveriably gives your opponent a great chance to deliver a huge counter punch so Haye went down every time he lost balance or felt Wlad could hurt him
PangeaSpreads 8 months ago
Haye fighting with that broken little toe.Man it looked bad,I bet he won't do that again.He could have pulled the upset if fit.He should fight Adamek next.
Rogokofats 8 months ago
@Rogokofats , i've broken many bones legs wrist , ankles , fist , arms , i've even been shot in the neck by a 9 mm round last year, but last Christmas i had cellulitis in my little toe and it was the worst pain i've had , spent 6 hours in a /e on xmas day , haye got beat, but wald should of kod him, haye took big shots which i thought he couldnt , wald was as much as a let down as haye, he should of kod him as haye was as open as a brothel . there's no 1 left , fury chisora not ready .
madscanman1 8 months ago
Hey big man, I know you mentioned the footwork, do you think that the reported toe injury had anything to do with that? I hadn't noticed it in Haye's other fights so that seems fairly logical.
I don't see Haye being interested in anything other than a Klitschko rematch, if he can't get one I think he'll retire.
Fight was less interesting that I hoped. Haye clearly had issues with the way the fight was reffed (as Booth brought up earlier).
Not a great fight.
shinypenny 8 months ago
Bigragu, do you know where Povetkin is lol, you crack me up dude lol
nikoluts 8 months ago
Good Vid man!! Any news for the cottoVSmargacheater2 ?
AlbertoDePiento 8 months ago
watch?v=CYnL5dZ2eBk
bigusdikus76 8 months ago
I guess David can't fight "toe to toe"!
bigusdikus76 8 months ago
Ragu, I just wanna know what you think about mayweather/ortiz! And does anyone know if Cotto/Margarito 2 got cancelled?
kingtony1972 8 months ago
@kingtony1972 Looking forward to Mayweather/Ortiz! I'll get the vid out soon!
bigragu 8 months ago
@bigragu We all will look forward to it.
Rogokofats 8 months ago
I could see Haye going for an easy mark in Eddie Chambers...
Um... I wouldn't pay to see that fight, but he 'is' higher than him in the rankings now and Haye could probably dismantle him to get back on top.
... man, I can't stop crying now; the heavyweight division is just plain sad... (:-(
TheSmilingWolf 8 months ago
@TheSmilingWolf These are tough times but there are a bunch of good HW fights to be made. Just not against the champs.
bigragu 8 months ago
Big ragu why did wladimir get the crappy looking "super" wba title instead of the 1 haye had?
punisherAFC 8 months ago
@punisherAFC Who knows. They're probably going to make Haye's title vacant so they can get more sanctioning fees for a bogus title fight.
bigragu 8 months ago
I cant believe don king isn't in jail after all the shady things he has done in the past, bumping muhammad ali out of money in his fight with holms, sinking his claws into a young mike tyson and ruining him, getting wbc to give his fighters title shots, dodgy referees and jugdes, the list goes on lol
knockoutking565 8 months ago
Good eye on Haye foot bigragu.
freddy092934 8 months ago
@freddy092934 thanks!
bigragu 8 months ago
Haye fought exactly the same as his fights with Valuev, Ruiz, and Harrison. Potshotting and countering. No plan b whatsoever. Personally I think he should ditch booth and bring in Glen Johnson's trainer to teach him inside fighting. If he can master that skill with his speed and power he could cause some serious damage. Not gonna happen though, he's more likely to call in Justin Beiber!!
Volcanic47 8 months ago
Who's the tougher man.easy David Haye Klitschko always fights guy's much smaller, Why didn't they ever fight Valuev, how long did Valuev have the belt anyways.and no challenge from klit.? Somebody get those robots out of there!
tubertism 8 months ago
@tubertism Valuev was/is controlled by Don King. There was no way King was willing to lose a hold on the HW divisions belt. So he avoided the Klitschko's and decided to let Valuev fight the much smaller man in Haye.
bigragu 8 months ago
@bigragu
tubertism 8 months ago
was don king involved with Solis
tubertism 8 months ago
was don king involved with sam peter when he lost the belt to klits?????????
tubertism 8 months ago
@bigragu Its true but Vaulev was/is a Sauerland "champ" - so they dont want to let the K2 beat him. They exchange him for Haye only because Haye signed a contract with them (for 4 fights ). Thats why Sauerland push Haye to fight with Klitschko coz it was a last fight they participate in.( Big money) Hayes plan was to avoid K2 till he fill the contract (he planned fight with Chagayev) and take whole money from next Klitschkos fight but... Sauerland threatened that Haye could loss on PTS with Ch
sweetbounty 8 months ago
@sweetbounty Make sense. Hard to believe it took this long for Haye to fight Wladimir. Seems like Haye is always injured when it comes to the Klitschko's. First the hand after Valuev to draw out the fight, then the "Back" injury and now the toe.
bigragu 8 months ago
watch the fight again bro. you are such a klitchko love boy. Hay made klits miss all night. This was klits most entertaining fight. because of haye . Rematch klitscko goes down.!!!
tubertism 8 months ago
@tubertism What? Are you for real? Look at Haye's face two days after the fight, there's a lot of bruises even for a guy who was running the entire fight.
visarion33 8 months ago
thanks ragu for this vid, Im glad you saw the fight :)
Xandrule1 8 months ago
Loving the street fight analogy - shows where THE ragu is coming from!!
I was most disappointed by Haye's supposedly great gameplan - jumping in and hoping that one wild hayemaker knocks him out, or bringing a 1,2 at best is no good style either. He implemented one part of the plan though- not allowing Wlad to lean his weight on him..
Where the hell is Povetkin?!! Rumour has it that he is hiding in the bigragu's humongous fridge!
pr4nk5tr 8 months ago
I think the boxing board should force the Klitschko`s to fight each other because they are avoiding the genuine challenge from each other ?, no other boxer would be allowed to refuse a fight without being stripped of their title .. and apart from that` I am just being mean because I want to see them fight .. ha ha. I think Evander Holyfield should challenge the Brothers ... okay I know he is prehistoric and nobody would take him seriously .. but He could surprise us all.
CARLOS62B 8 months ago
@CARLOS62B I think Evander was after a fight with Vitali at some point in the last year or two so we will probably get to see them two fight at some point before one of them retires I reckon.
hipwell86 8 months ago
@hipwell86 .. that would be a Real fight .. they are both " blood and guts " fighters.
CARLOS62B 8 months ago
@CARLOS62B I don't think Evander truly wants to jump in the ring with these guys. Then again he could be all juiced up and hang.
bigragu 8 months ago
@bigragu ... I think the Klitschko style of fighting would be the perfect pace for Evander ... plus I think he would really make them work for those dollars too. Evander has got much slower for sure` but he still has that fighters heart and I believe he could give them both a good fight over the full distance.
CARLOS62B 8 months ago
@CARLOS62B
"no boxer would be allowed to REFUSE A FIGHT" - well the Klitschkos DONT REFUSE, because they DONT DEMAND a fight! as simple as that. Also they are not in the same Organisations anyway.
PS. if you're bored, check out some Vitali Klitschko KICKBOXING videos on youtube. they're fun to watch.
he totally wastes those Japs/Koreans/etc...
TheHorsenation 8 months ago
@TheHorsenation ... I love Vitali ... he is a real scrapper and he is one hell of a Kickboxer too
CARLOS62B 8 months ago
@CARLOS62B got a brother? then imagine fighting him...
Xandrule1 8 months ago
@Xandrule1 ... I DO have a Younger Brother ... He did Karate and I did Boxing for a while.
Did we fight .... Hell yes` like cat & dog ... then we went out and got drunk together. Surely Wladimir must be tempted to try and claim all the belts for himself ? .. even if they did it as a publicity stunt` the Whole boxing World would be glued to their seats.
CARLOS62B 8 months ago
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@Xandrule1 ... I DO have a Younger Brother ... He did Karate and I did Boxing for a while.
Did we fight .... Hell yes` like cat and dog ... then we went out and got drunk together. Surely Wladimir must be tempted to try and claim all the belts for himself ? .. even if they did it as a publicity stunt` the Whole boxing World would be glued to their seats.
CARLOS62B 8 months ago
I think this was a boring and an ugly fight. I think they got scared of eachothers power after both getting nailed with a solid right hand. Sadly this caused them to avoid the real fights in the fight, Wlad didnt follow up after making Haye mis and Haye didnt throw more thn 2 punch combo's because they wer scared to get hit. In the end Wlad's jab made the difference. They are now looking at the winner of Tyson fury vs Derek Chisora. However I was extremely dissapointed by Wlad's performance.
boobsnexplosions 8 months ago
Ragu on another note how much faith do you put in the rumours of Khan Mayweather for next Autumn? Personally i quite like the idea. I think Khan has a better chance to beat him than anyone else in and around that weight apart from pacman i feel his speed is a match for PBF and his punches in bunches could make for an interesting fight.
themook1980 8 months ago
@themook1980 I don't put any faith into that.
bigragu 8 months ago
The sad truth is that the K2 are head and shoulders above the rest of the division and Haye who got it handed to him is probably still a legitimate top 5 HW. He doesnt have the power like he did at Cruiser but at least he comes in fit and has the stamina to go 12. I also thought his sheer speed kept him from getting his clock totally cleaned by Wlad. The key for him beating Wlad was taking away that jab which he couldnt do. He offers plenty of problems for most of the other HW outside the bros
themook1980 8 months ago
@themook1980 Yes, once the K Bro's retire the division will explode and there will be tons of competitive title fights. Unfortunately, it will be lesser competition that will get blown up to be better simply because the fighters fighting will be closer to equal and not near the Klitschko's level. So if you think the HW division is down now, imagine how weak it will be when they're gone.
bigragu 8 months ago
We 're supposed to believe he fought like this due to a broken toe? More like a lack of balls! I mean if you have a broken toe AND you talked smack like Haye did then you SHOULD attack flat out after the first bell, let it all hang out, go for the puncher's chance! You DON'T jump around and run for 12 rounds hoping for sympathy from the referee! Epic fail from Booth and Haye on this one!
bigusdikus76 8 months ago
@ Bigragu - you forgot to mention how Haye shook Wlad to his boots in the 12th and received a 45 second hug for his trouble. You give that round to Klitschko? I don't see it.
vaxinate 8 months ago
@vaxinate That punch came with less than 15 seconds left in the fight. If you give a round based on 1 punch landing after spending most of the round eating jabs then I guess you would score that round for Haye. I didn't. 1 punch does not wipe out the other 2:45 seconds that were dominated by Klitschko.
bigragu 8 months ago 6
@bigragu It wasn't quite with 15 seconds left in the round because Wlad was hugging for at least 30. I definitely think it's worth a mention that I fighter literally couldn't let go of his opponent for fear of being ko'd. I personally think a monster punch cancels out many many jabs. Just as 1 gold medal counts more than 1000 silver medals in an Olympic mdeal table.
vaxinate 8 months ago
@vaxinate -- I think personally think Haye flopping on the ground to try to get point cancels out anything else Haye did in the fight.
klitschkobrosfan 8 months ago
@klitschkobrosfan --I *personally think
klitschkobrosfan 8 months ago
@klitschkobrosfan Haye sunk to the floor every time Klit put his weigh on him illegally. Haye was determined not to be bullied that way like so many other Klit opponents. Haye really wasn't that bad in the fight.
vaxinate 8 months ago
Horses eat Haye, Apparently Klitschko does too!
MysteryoftheGods 8 months ago
they both should retire
DavidColumbia 8 months ago 2
@DavidColumbia OUCH! Wlad can stay for another 5-10 years at this pace!
bigragu 8 months ago 5
@bigragu umm...but like you said, who has Vlad got left to fight??? Guys with 10 - 15 fights on their record? Despite the hype surrounding this particular fight, the aftermath reminds us now of how poor the division still is....
DavidColumbia 8 months ago
@DavidColumbia you do have a point there.......
bigragu 8 months ago
I think Haye can actually beat Wladamir if they have a rematch. If he seriously had a broken toe than that explains his poor performance. Not being able to plant and throw really slows down your speed and gives off less power. Hopefully they do have a rematch and there is nothing wrong with David Haye, then I will really judge him.
YoungDrizzle215 8 months ago
@YoungDrizzle215 um, no. Haye can't reach Klitschko. Klitschko raped him
DevilsFan973 8 months ago
@DevilsFan973 I wouldn't say raped him, he barely landed on him. I guarantee it will be closer if they fight again, if there is nothing wrong with David Haye next time they fight, it will be entertaining
YoungDrizzle215 8 months ago
Haye didn't do bad in my opinion. But he still disappointed, considering all his boasting he would go in there and blast Wlad. He was clearly afraid of getting hit, and all the rolling down on the canvas looked plain ridiculous. He was trying to get Wlad DQ'd. And then the toe excuse, ha ha! Wlad dominated him from start to finish and he should just acknowledge that, period. I would like to see Haye vs Vitali, if Haye doesn't retire as he said he would.
WhiskeyMysticsandMen 8 months ago
the fight was boring but o.k to watched ....Klitschko jabs,jabs,jabs all night long.
tabootabor 8 months ago
You know the worlds gone mad when after the fight the former HEAVYWEIGHT champion of the world takes off his boot to show everybody his broken little toe and then proceeds to use that little pinky as an excuse for why he may of lost the fight. Just imagine Ali,Foreman, Tyson or even Lewis doing that. Lol it was pathetic and what is even more laughable is that some fans actually believed him.
fensteroo7 8 months ago
DO you take requests for the beginning of your videos?
What a let down for the ultimate shit talking prior
666ThaScarecro666 8 months ago
Haye dissappointed me big time in this fight. He should have realized soon in the fight his gameplan wasn't working, whatever the reason, and wen't for it. He took some bombs from Klitschko (atleast it looked like that for me) and SHOULD have risked it, because he was not going to win on points.
I was, after analyzing Haye/Klitschko before the fight looking for the counter right hand from Haye, but he was unable to, and didn't even look for it in my opinion. Looked to predictable..
Scampern 8 months ago
The fight reminded me of Eddie Chambers .. both Eddie and Dave are good quick defensive boxers .. had Dave wanted to fight and exchange with Vlad he would have been KOed in short order .. Vlad only used Jab and onetwos .. Haye sparred with Helenius and Hel dominated him with strength .. Vitali now wants to fight Haye .. always thought that would be a better fight .. Vlad wants winner of Chis and Fury .. will be a great fight Chis is unknown tough and brave.
mbrookscontact 8 months ago
@mbrookscontact I don't think either of those 2 are ready for that big of a step up in class yet. But with the way the division is going it almost seems like that's the best matchup.
bigragu 8 months ago
Klit is just TOO good at what he does man! If he keeps this up he's gonna be a TRUE ATG!
That jab is SICK!!!
J0k3r4U 8 months ago
@J0k3r4U I love that jab!!
bigragu 8 months ago
HEY BIGRAGU! HAYE'S TOE WAS HURT!!!............
PFFFffffffffffffffffff!! HAHAHHAHAHA!!!
Sorry I couldn't say that and not burst into STOMACH-SPLITTING laughter!
xD
J0k3r4U 8 months ago
Haye's pissed me off with this look at my little tow! bullshit! if you lost you lost dont make stupid excuses.
wl6309 8 months ago
Wlad shocked Haye with his speed bro
DStyleBoxing 8 months ago
Vitali is best brother. Adamek? If he dies he dies
DStyleBoxing 8 months ago
@DStyleBoxing Yes! That is how I see that going down as well.
bigragu 8 months ago
It was on PPV in Europe Big Ragu
vkhasriya 8 months ago
@vkhasriya That's right! Hope the undercard helped ease that a little!
bigragu 8 months ago
@bigragu not in eastern europe. where I live 4 channels showed it in 3 different languages.
Szekler11 8 months ago
@vkhasriya Yes and apparently it did more PPV Buys than Lewis v Tyson. Haye is big bucks in the UK
GameseekTV 8 months ago
@GameseekTV excuse me? how come you got the info about PPV before both teams officialy said a word about it? don't write crap here
ElecTron1k 8 months ago
EDUARDO!
J0k3r4U 8 months ago
This fight remind me of Lennox Lewis vs. David Tua. It suck
MrChinosWorld 8 months ago
haye is a clown!
forexistentialistics 8 months ago
Haye is a poor loser. I read on yahoo sports that Haye may get a shot at Vitali. Will Wlad give him a rematch? I think maybe so, Haye will still be Wlads biggest payday out of anyone. If he does get his rematch everything will be on Wlads terms and you can be sure it wont be before a few mind games have been played from the champs camp. Would I like to see a rematch? Yes because I would like to see Haye get beaten again by either brother for that matter.
MrBasswelder 8 months ago
@MrBasswelder Haye could get the shot at Vitali because he's upset/angered the big man. Vitali wants to punish Haye for running his mouth and the only way to do is in the ring.
bigragu 8 months ago
@bigragu You think Vitali is yuoung enough? If the age hasn't hit him I'm sure he'll "hit" Haye.
He might hurt him really bad actually...
o.O
Even tho he's not the type to do that....
J0k3r4U 8 months ago
@bigragu Vitali wouldnt take Haye's shit..
Im i the only one who has noticed that Haye is looking like he is having a diarrhea attack when Vitali speaks to him? lol
prayforme111 8 months ago
bigragu quick question mate, do you think haye had the tools but didnt use them? i no youve said befor you liked his style and was getting better,,,,do you think adam booth could have played a part in the loss???
steve4140 8 months ago
@steve4140 aside from the K's I believe Haye's style is good enough to beat or hang with all the other HW's out there.
bigragu 8 months ago
@bigragu I think Povetkin will be one of the best in a long time once he matures enough.
(if not there yet) I think Povetkin or Toney could beat Haye... Holyfield too...
J0k3r4U 8 months ago
@bigragu Btw, if you watched the leadup conferences and sessions etc. to the fight, did you notice how well conditioned Wlad is - even WAY more than usual and facially I've NEVER seen him look more focussed, MEAN, ANGRY and full of HATE! lol
I think he may be at his best at the oment. Hope he can keep it up...
J0k3r4U 8 months ago
Hey Ragu,Rebecca Black music video was taken out of youtube. Have you ever considered a carreer as a Disney Channel singer or something. Remember not to take naked pictures of you and posting them on facebook for them to be hacked. It is a bad publicity strategy. JKNG!
Atrofia2 8 months ago
anyone know where povetkin is? great stuff
maskedmillionaire 8 months ago
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@maskedmillionaire
Povetkin now should fight for WBA "regular" title vs chagaev. But he said for russian press that he "tired to wait for Klitschko fight" whatever it means.
nypd9111 8 months ago
even though Haye lost, which i'm glad he did, i would still like to see Haye vs Arreola
siwooot 8 months ago
give a Haye a beak, his toe was broken...hehehe
klitchkoFan 8 months ago
@klitchkoFan LOL!
bigragu 8 months ago
Yh the fight was on PPV in UK.
maju786 8 months ago
@maju786 that had to be rough. Hope the undercard was good.
bigragu 8 months ago
@bigragu They were bragging about it in the UK as if it was gonna be fight of the year. I always knew the fight was gonna be crap, no way was i paying $24 for it plus the Khan fight is on PPV over here which i think is gonna be a much better fight.
maju786 8 months ago
At the start when ragu was saying "Will he" I thought he said "Willie" and i thought to myself "Who's Willie?" LOL
hakkai999 8 months ago
Hypemaker was a big let down. He said I'm knocking out both K.Bros and bringing excitement to the div. I always thought that was bs cause Haye has not been an exciting HW. Both guys were very cautious, but Wlad was winning and doing his thing.
Haye shouldn't have been lunging in and putting his face in Wlad's crotch anyway. WTF was that shit? lol
hawkermustang 8 months ago
@Toops144 LOL I was joking about Hayes toe stuff, I dnt even like Haye I'm a wlad fan have been for a while so no need to quote me.
MrFNWO1 8 months ago
@SquareRo0o0t i agree with you mate the english media are the kings of hype. they always big up our sportsmen like there the best and then when they lose they start shitting on them like they always thought they were going to lose. its the same with the england football team. the media suck everyone in with the constant hype. look at when hatton fought floyd our media made it out like it was a 50/50 fight which of course it wasnt and then when hatton got destroyed they suddenly call him overated
MrJonnyl123 8 months ago
i wasnt impressed with either guy. haye didnt throw enough and i was surprised he didnt really go for it later on in the fight because i cantt believe he thought he was winning on points. he just seemed to stay on the back foot and allow wlad to pile up points. wasnt impressed with wlad either he should of been alot more agressive in there and didnt let his right go enough but tbh not surprised because thats how he always fights but i felt he should of took haye out. bit of a let down in the end
MrJonnyl123 8 months ago
@MrJonnyl123 Wlad did respond every time Haye would land a good shot on him. The problem was that everytime Wlad opened up, Haye got close and then would go to the ground as they were tying up.
bigragu 8 months ago
I hope Haye hangs around long enough to earn a rematch. Haye is better than what he produced in that fight, and the sad fact of the matter is there is nobody else for Wlad to fight anyway. Wlad was very impressive though - he made Haye look silly at times. His defence looked absolutley solid. It's a real shame that there aren't any more career defining fights out there for Wlad - he deserves to be dominating a better generation than this one.
23discordians 8 months ago
This happens again and again, I was there in Hamburg.
It's happened time and time again, using us suckers...the British boxing fans(becuase there is alot of us) we get used to build up a big purse and then get shat on.
It's always happened, our (supposed) world beating boxers take on the best, and get fucked up...all british boxing fans get their hearts broken...and we give our hearts and money to a fighter that knows he's not going to win, only calzage and Lewis that hasn't fucked us.
SquareRo0o0t 8 months ago
Btw you gotta do a prospect perspective on English Heavyweight 'Richard Towers'
Hes 6,8" tall fantastic athletic shape,31yr old undefeated (only had 8 pro fights 8 wins 6 knockouts) Ex gangster who did a 6yrs of a 13yr prison sentece for kidnapping a man at gunpoint then tortured him with a steam iron, hammer and stun gun. Hes a proper rough house.
Hes got some bang in his punches too. Looking very promising.
athleticguyUK 8 months ago
@athleticguyUK I'll check him out!
bigragu 8 months ago
I also dont want to see a rematch with Haye cashing in another 15 Mill for dropping on his knees 20 times to avoid blows.
I do however want to see Vitali Klitschko against Haye - but I think Haye doesn't have the guts to face this roughneck! ... well maybe the CASH will make him agree to a fight.
TheHorsenation 8 months ago
@TheHorsenation If Haye takes that fight he is in for one! Vitali isn't uber cautious as Wlad and he has a real nasty streak in him.
bigragu 8 months ago
Great vid as always @Bigragu! living in the UK, i had to put up with the hype. Great having you as the ultimate goto guy! also, is that your washing machine i can hear in the background?
antoniomilo 8 months ago
@antoniomilo Thank you for the compliment! The wife started running the vacuum cleaner!
bigragu 8 months ago
I couldnt help think Haye wasnt 100% in there for whatever reason,the whole fight was just strange. Id like to see a rematch,id rather see them 2 tangle again than i would Wlad fight people like Chisora. Huge payday for both too £15-£20 Million each,so why not!
Vitali said he would considerd knocking Haye out,that would obviously sell too. Many say Haye should fight unbeaten Povetkin to redeem himself and shut people up a bit.
i Uploaded Carl Frochs thought if u wanna listen,there funny.
athleticguyUK 8 months ago
@athleticguyUK Nobody comes out of a Wlad fight looking like they were 100% anymore. Hasn't happened in over 5 years. Vitali would make Haye fight, period. I don't think Haye wants that which is why he went for the easier brother first.
bigragu 8 months ago
@bigragu Yeah i suppose. Gotta give it to Wlad,even though he used his same boring tactics he stepped them up to 11 and did what had to be done and he carried them off pretty much perfectly. I didnt like his tactics for when Haye got in close,the clinch and push to the canvas on the neck,German TV caught him red handed at the end of round 3,even stevie wonder could see it was on purpose. But then after round 6 Haye did start to milk them a bit.
Hayes chin held up well too,he took Wlads best.
athleticguyUK 8 months ago
@athleticguyUK No he didn't take Wlad's best! Wlad hardly did anything!
J0k3r4U 8 months ago
@J0k3r4U Watch the fight again,Wlad landed atleast 5-9 big right hands,one of them was a real beauty.
plus Wlads jab is not to be sniffed at and Haye ate that all night long.
Wlads chin held up alrite too,although he backed away as Haye threw the big right hand taking some of the power out of them,he was caught with a couple Hayemakers that wobbled him a little,could see by his knees.
athleticguyUK 8 months ago
I live in the UK, everyone was going crazy about Haye saying he was gonna win. I remembered what you said about 2 years ago in a vid 'Everybody thinks they are gonna beat Klitschko until they get in the ring and get punched in the face,' You taught me not to underestimate Wlad.
How can Haye fight again he is 31 soon lol
Cornwall1888 8 months ago
@Cornwall1888 Thank you for following for so long! It's very true, everybody has a plan. It just changes after a couple of jabs upside the head.
bigragu 8 months ago
very good question which I'd love to answer eventhough it was addressed at Bigragu. Vitali, whose also a very good boxing analyst, said at an interview that Haye lacked the power to knockout either of the Klitschkos.Apart from that, I said it in many of my comments that the knockouts of Wladimir were badly commented. He lost to Brewster and Purity ,cos like we all know,he overpowered himself. And to Sanders, it was also,partly nervous energy, panic. I believe he doesnt have a glass chin.
BlackKlitschkofan 8 months ago
Great video, I think haye will retire, at least the HW division had some excitement for one fight. Lets hope pacquiao and mayweather get it on now!
88stockmj 8 months ago
@88stockmj The Mayweather/Ortiz fight could be a good one as well!
bigragu 8 months ago
@bigragu yep can't wait for that =D
88stockmj 8 months ago
Hey big , I'm British but I agree that there should be no rematch I mean it wasn't even close! As for haye I expected a little more and the toe is no excuse , I actually thought that his head movement and reflexes were great he slipped a lot of wlad s shots but he didn't make him pay? He just couldn't get to the guys head! Wlad has perfected that customised European style to perfection and trust me this isn't the same guy that got ko by sanders he was still learning and now he has this perfecte
wayneyboy7 8 months ago
@wayneyboy7 Wlad has had like 7 years with Emmanuel Steward. It is paying off bigtime now.
bigragu 8 months ago
How did you like the fight? I think it didn't live up to expectations. I was disappointed by both fighters. Haye found no key to Wlad's defence and Wlad lacked agressivness. He should have knocked Haye out.
netwette 8 months ago
@netwette I thought Wlad would make this fight the way he does all of his. Get them into deep water and drown them. The problem was that everytime Wlad engaged Haye, Haye would tie up and then go down to the canvas.
bigragu 8 months ago
hey Bigragu, what do you think about Wlads "glass" chin ? coz he took a few clean right so called "hayemakers" on his face and stood this very well. No wobbling etc.. My quest.: Is Wlad more durable today or Hayes power shots are simply overrated?
sweetbounty 8 months ago
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BlackKlitschkofan 8 months ago
@sweetbounty It was a gr8 shot my Sanders, but he got up every time. His corner shouldve advised him better, instead of storming on Sanders on shaky legs and being hit hard again. he also admitted underrating his opponent and not taking the fight as serious as he shouldve.
BlackKlitschkofan 8 months ago
@sweetbounty I believe Wlad is a complete fighter now. I believe the earlier losses were due more to inexperience and not having a gameplan for when something like that arose. He is much calmer now and set in his ways.
bigragu 8 months ago
uh yeah, good question,
Poooooovetkin, where are you????????
agree, no need for rematch, he really should retire
dominik13579 8 months ago
The klitchkos don't get enuff respect , without them the heavyweight division is a joke, to the point where even lennox said he felt like putting on his gloves lol. I can't remember ur prediction but i got the right fighter by decision. let me tell you that if tyson fury and derek chisora are future contenders then fuck it i'm digging out my gloves as well lol. good vid again ragu.
TheRefreshed 8 months ago
@TheRefreshed LOL! I've started dusting them off as we speak! :)
bigragu 8 months ago
I expected as much from Haye, ever since he started calling the Klitschko's out. He's a bully and all bullies have no heart as soon as they sense they can't win. I don't think there is anyone left out there for the Klitschko's except each other but we all know and understand, that will never happen. I personally believe they are the greatest of this generation of heavyweights. I respect their style and enjoy it. They make everyone fight 'their' fight. The biggest key to winning! In any sport.
makeitgo 8 months ago
Big ragu has the same chance against Wlad as you have ... all you need is a gun or big stick and cought Wlad from the back side
UncleCossack 8 months ago
In one of round Haye landed a few good jabs back to back. It was nice.
Bitch still got owned.
MortalSyntax 8 months ago
what about bigragu vs wladimir = anychance big guy ?
mutchie6g 8 months ago
@mutchie6g LOL! I'd have to try the Tyson "Peek a Boo" style and make it rough from jump! Low blows, elbows and the like! :) Something to try to take him out of his game plan. But then I'd eat a couple of those jabs........ :)
bigragu 8 months ago
I sure do! LOL
No comment!
SugarInHisBlood 8 months ago
Shame Haye's toe was broke lol. Man I really want Haye to Jump on Wlad thats the only way he was going to win wrong game plan, both guys took some decent shots it was a decent fight , I'm not to sure I would like to see a rematch, maybe Haye can fight Vitali but he will have more problems with him but maybe Vitali might trade wit him but whatever, Wlads the man and Haye needs to go ice his toe.
PeAcE
MrFNWO1 8 months ago
Honestly I don't think anyone (even in britain) would've been upset or ashamed of haye had he at least tried you know. If he would've made this a Hagler vs. Hearns type brawl and he got ko'd. yeah the Klit nuthuggers would've laughed but all in all I think there would've been appreciation for the event. Instead we were treated to Klitschko vs. Ibragimov Part II.
EricSuede 8 months ago
Haye said that Klitschko is boring and he would make a fight. But finally, he was staying far away, so it was Ibragimov 2. Haye is one who promised fight.
Klitschko promised jab and he did it :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
UncleCossack 8 months ago