the student is extremely dedicated. the effort and many hrs of training is quite obvious.Many of this standing attack are in ground fighting ,one only has to have the knowledge to recognized them .view the techniques and see if any lock can be done from the ground. seek and you shall find
karate is not a killing art... it is an art of self defense. sure there are some extremely dangerous moves to use like spearing upward into the solarpex... but we dont use it just to kill, unless your a person who misuses it. we use it to defend. if you think about it there are probably more blocks than attacks, but thats just coming from my style.
i'll second that. through the very knowledge of how to destroy someone, Karateka become discipline enough to reserve their knowledge for when it is truly needed. Like allowing a rough friend to hit you a few times or have his fun putting you in a headlock. Sure, you could put him on the floor or strike him hard enough to puke last week's lunch, but why? He's not threatening you or any else's life--just being stupid. Karate is a defensive art from beginning to end.
thats all fine, but if there's a guy with a baseball bat walking toward you in your own house at 3 a.m. ..i'm pretty sure he doesn't want to dance...so you may as well just hit the guy a few times and be done with it.
hat's not what I meant... if somebody has a gun they obviously have put you on the defensive already. There really is no such thing as initiative when you think about it; just the first physical strike. but there are mental/emotional attacks before that ever happens.
and what i meant is that generally speaking its a great ideal to live up to. but sometimes in todays world it's just not practical to take it too literally. with most real fights i've seen the first good shot is usually the one that decides the winner. too bad the law doesn't see it that way lol
yeah, too bad... it's hard to balance between the morals and the practical necessity. as long as you didn't start the fight, striking first isn't a problem, i think.
@kempobrad If you train the application of your kata, you won't just be dancing. Exactly what I said.
With proper training, that so-called "dancing" contributes to powerful techniques and the ability to defend from multiple directions, angles and areas of attack. With that knowledge, the techniques that one like yourself would likely consider "practical techniques" would come more naturally and would be more likely to dispatch a foe in less time. Each kata trains various aspects of Karate
@HangetsuHozuki ...and i didnt say otherwise. he said karate is a defensive art from beginning to end. the point i was making is EXACTLY what i said. i didnt say anything about kata being a dance. you karate guys are so defensive lol
Continued - itself. Naihanchi, for example, teaches how to draw power from the body when movement is limited, as well as how to defend one's self from attack when driven to a wall or the edge of a cliff/river/boundary.
That would include Mixed Martial Arts too, right? Because Lyoto Machida, a shotokan stylist, has yet to be beaten in MMA fights(13-0), so wouldnt't that mean current MMA fighters need to adapt, unlearn and re-learn too in order to beat him? Every method of fighting, past or present, has strengths and weaknesses. It all comes down to the skill level of the fighter. Few people could beat Bruce even before he developed JKD, because he trained hard and was a student of the arts.
Kata, if we simplify our view of it, is simply practicing the needed moves to understand how combat within the karate system works. So kata exists in boxing, JJ, BJJ, Judo, and all MA worth knowing. Change your head, open your mind and you instantly see that all the greats in history rely on something preset and preconfigured, kata, even if they are patently spontaneous in training too.
i agree with you look at choki motobu all he need was naifanchi kata,his drills are amazing look what a great fighter he was,he called funakoshi a charlaton and said his karate was rubbish when put to the test a judo guy had funakoshi in a lock and could not get out of it and was saved by ohsuka{wado ryu}
well its so simple all you have to do is test your self.fight a submission wrestler with traditional techniques in your forms you will find out it does not work.i did i tried kick boxers, grapplers and found out that all the years a waisted in goju ryu,mudukkwon,shornji ryu were just a collection of organized fancy mess of dead techniques.
Hey taz391, you have no clue if your saying something that retarded. Stop watching that gay show with those two wana-be martial artists & actually lear something...you idiot.
hey stompknocker or who ever u are a high school wrestler with some aau boxing skill will kick 99.9% of so called traditonal karate system so go do ur kata and pay your sensei a hunderd bucks a month so u can wear your gi and belt while you Get your a_ _ kicked ive seen over and over Oss sensei
I don't overpay like those wana-be dojos where you give the person several hundren dollars for a blk belt. I'm one of the few actual martial artists existing. Over half of my life was devoted to learning the ways of the empty hand; as well as traditional weapons forms. So as I said before, stay in your sad delusion little boy. The real wariors walk among you, we are just sad to see our way of life devolve into these bastard forms that are being popularized by the retards of 2day (i.e.: you)
the only true warriors walking amongst us are fighting and dying in Iraq and Afghanistan. the rest of us you and me are just members of the bull shit do assco.
My comments had nothing to do with that subject. Of course, such things are spoonfed to you by the media. Keep em scared & stupid so they can act "american" by showing their pride by putting up flags at home with a stupid grin on their face thinking they made a difference. You wana to show pride for your country?Get ppl off their ass & vote for polititions that won't screw us over(if there are any!). ppl have elected the corrupt b/c they'd rather vote for American Idol than4 their own future.
Ok,out of context.But heres a quote from THE TAO OF JEET KUNE DO "INSTEAD OF FACING COMBAT IN ITS SUCHNESS,THEN,MOST SYSTEMS OF MARTIAL ART ACCUMULATE A FANCY MESS THAT DISTORTS AND CRAMPS THEIR PRACTITIONERS AND DISTRACTS THEM FROM THE ACTUAL REALITY OF COMBAT, WHICH IS SIMPLE AND DIRECT.ORGANIZED DESPAIR AND ARTIFICIAL TECHNIQUES ARE ARE RITUALISTICALLY PRACTICED TO SIMULATE ACTUAL COMBAT". SO GO DO YOUR KATA GRASSHOPPER , JUST DONT GET INTO A STREET FIGHT.
Yes, I agree with Lee,just detest yur simple minded assumptions. That quote would apply to non-traditional, stick a sparkler up your ass/wave an aluminum bo around, and say yur a martial artist...those ppl make me sick. I grew up around some very unpleasant ppl & learned to fight on my own (or I would've gotten beaten2 a bloody pulp everyday). But what you learn from traditional forms like the ones I've spent my life studying allow you to take what u've learned & use it4 practical application.
you are so right,one thing they all forget is when us traditional martial artist can still train and defend ourselves when we are in our 70,s these batton twirling nobs and so called mma fighters will be burnt out and good for nothing but slipping in there own shit,the reason the dont like traditional forms is cus they aint got the brains and the dedication,they all look for a quick way and there isn't one so they look for the easy option and slag of everything they dont understand,
a bit harsh. mma takes as much dedication as tma does. of a different kind. you're right in that its the quick easy way. but thats what they train for....fighting. no culture, history, or anything else associated with tma. silly to compare the two because they're really not that different in application. it just depends on what you're training for.
take up knife fighting point shooting and non sports martial arts before a guy with a ounce of rage and stregnth kicks yours you close minded bandwagoner
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083924 4 months ago
I always have trouble remembering this kata
d4bl4h 2 years ago
the student is extremely dedicated. the effort and many hrs of training is quite obvious.Many of this standing attack are in ground fighting ,one only has to have the knowledge to recognized them .view the techniques and see if any lock can be done from the ground. seek and you shall find
sifurick123 3 years ago 2
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Forrest Gump selfdefense course do you stupid mother F_ _ kers think this is fighting?
taz391 3 years ago
"Damnant quod non intelligunt" - They condemn what they do not understand.
deek77 3 years ago
no, this is kata dumbass.
kempobrad 2 years ago
Oh! This naifanchi is very different style.
But very Powerful and fast.
Matsubayashi is interesting style !
dinotagu 3 years ago
thats why u gota strike like karate ..no use tryin to wresle a wresler ..karate is a killing art periode
slingblade2012 3 years ago
karate is not a killing art... it is an art of self defense. sure there are some extremely dangerous moves to use like spearing upward into the solarpex... but we dont use it just to kill, unless your a person who misuses it. we use it to defend. if you think about it there are probably more blocks than attacks, but thats just coming from my style.
averagejp 3 years ago
what is your style? mine is shorin-ryu and i just recently became a senpai at my dojo. (i am only a purple/black belt)
naruto199511 3 years ago
my style is fushin ryu. it's not that popular, but it's famous for its double blocks. im almost a senpai..(i'm only a brown black belt
averagejp 3 years ago
i'll second that. through the very knowledge of how to destroy someone, Karateka become discipline enough to reserve their knowledge for when it is truly needed. Like allowing a rough friend to hit you a few times or have his fun putting you in a headlock. Sure, you could put him on the floor or strike him hard enough to puke last week's lunch, but why? He's not threatening you or any else's life--just being stupid. Karate is a defensive art from beginning to end.
yieldingbamboo 2 years ago 4
thats all fine, but if there's a guy with a baseball bat walking toward you in your own house at 3 a.m. ..i'm pretty sure he doesn't want to dance...so you may as well just hit the guy a few times and be done with it.
kempobrad 2 years ago
hat's not what I meant... if somebody has a gun they obviously have put you on the defensive already. There really is no such thing as initiative when you think about it; just the first physical strike. but there are mental/emotional attacks before that ever happens.
yieldingbamboo 2 years ago
and what i meant is that generally speaking its a great ideal to live up to. but sometimes in todays world it's just not practical to take it too literally. with most real fights i've seen the first good shot is usually the one that decides the winner. too bad the law doesn't see it that way lol
kempobrad 2 years ago
yeah, too bad... it's hard to balance between the morals and the practical necessity. as long as you didn't start the fight, striking first isn't a problem, i think.
yieldingbamboo 2 years ago
agreed. also i'd add not taking it too far.
kempobrad 2 years ago
@kempobrad And if you train the application of your kata, you won't just be "dancing", now will you?
HangetsuHozuki 7 months ago
@HangetsuHozuki wtf are you talking about? lol
kempobrad 6 months ago
@kempobrad If you train the application of your kata, you won't just be dancing. Exactly what I said.
With proper training, that so-called "dancing" contributes to powerful techniques and the ability to defend from multiple directions, angles and areas of attack. With that knowledge, the techniques that one like yourself would likely consider "practical techniques" would come more naturally and would be more likely to dispatch a foe in less time. Each kata trains various aspects of Karate
HangetsuHozuki 6 months ago
@HangetsuHozuki ...and i didnt say otherwise. he said karate is a defensive art from beginning to end. the point i was making is EXACTLY what i said. i didnt say anything about kata being a dance. you karate guys are so defensive lol
kempobrad 6 months ago
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HangetsuHozuki 6 months ago
Continued - itself. Naihanchi, for example, teaches how to draw power from the body when movement is limited, as well as how to defend one's self from attack when driven to a wall or the edge of a cliff/river/boundary.
HangetsuHozuki 6 months ago
Karate ni sente nashi = there is no first attack in karate.
exkwconch 2 years ago 6
Martial Arts are like religion you believe what you want untill you come face to face with the truth.evolve or become extinct!
taz391 3 years ago
That would include Mixed Martial Arts too, right? Because Lyoto Machida, a shotokan stylist, has yet to be beaten in MMA fights(13-0), so wouldnt't that mean current MMA fighters need to adapt, unlearn and re-learn too in order to beat him? Every method of fighting, past or present, has strengths and weaknesses. It all comes down to the skill level of the fighter. Few people could beat Bruce even before he developed JKD, because he trained hard and was a student of the arts.
deek77 3 years ago
Kata, if we simplify our view of it, is simply practicing the needed moves to understand how combat within the karate system works. So kata exists in boxing, JJ, BJJ, Judo, and all MA worth knowing. Change your head, open your mind and you instantly see that all the greats in history rely on something preset and preconfigured, kata, even if they are patently spontaneous in training too.
Unemployment1 4 years ago
i agree with you look at choki motobu all he need was naifanchi kata,his drills are amazing look what a great fighter he was,he called funakoshi a charlaton and said his karate was rubbish when put to the test a judo guy had funakoshi in a lock and could not get out of it and was saved by ohsuka{wado ryu}
wolvoboy 3 years ago
well its so simple all you have to do is test your self.fight a submission wrestler with traditional techniques in your forms you will find out it does not work.i did i tried kick boxers, grapplers and found out that all the years a waisted in goju ryu,mudukkwon,shornji ryu were just a collection of organized fancy mess of dead techniques.
taz391 3 years ago
Hey taz391, you have no clue if your saying something that retarded. Stop watching that gay show with those two wana-be martial artists & actually lear something...you idiot.
StoicVamp 4 years ago
hey stompknocker or who ever u are a high school wrestler with some aau boxing skill will kick 99.9% of so called traditonal karate system so go do ur kata and pay your sensei a hunderd bucks a month so u can wear your gi and belt while you Get your a_ _ kicked ive seen over and over Oss sensei
taz391 4 years ago
I don't overpay like those wana-be dojos where you give the person several hundren dollars for a blk belt. I'm one of the few actual martial artists existing. Over half of my life was devoted to learning the ways of the empty hand; as well as traditional weapons forms. So as I said before, stay in your sad delusion little boy. The real wariors walk among you, we are just sad to see our way of life devolve into these bastard forms that are being popularized by the retards of 2day (i.e.: you)
StoicVamp 3 years ago
the only true warriors walking amongst us are fighting and dying in Iraq and Afghanistan. the rest of us you and me are just members of the bull shit do assco.
taz391 3 years ago
My comments had nothing to do with that subject. Of course, such things are spoonfed to you by the media. Keep em scared & stupid so they can act "american" by showing their pride by putting up flags at home with a stupid grin on their face thinking they made a difference. You wana to show pride for your country?Get ppl off their ass & vote for polititions that won't screw us over(if there are any!). ppl have elected the corrupt b/c they'd rather vote for American Idol than4 their own future.
StoicVamp 3 years ago
Ok,out of context.But heres a quote from THE TAO OF JEET KUNE DO "INSTEAD OF FACING COMBAT IN ITS SUCHNESS,THEN,MOST SYSTEMS OF MARTIAL ART ACCUMULATE A FANCY MESS THAT DISTORTS AND CRAMPS THEIR PRACTITIONERS AND DISTRACTS THEM FROM THE ACTUAL REALITY OF COMBAT, WHICH IS SIMPLE AND DIRECT.ORGANIZED DESPAIR AND ARTIFICIAL TECHNIQUES ARE ARE RITUALISTICALLY PRACTICED TO SIMULATE ACTUAL COMBAT". SO GO DO YOUR KATA GRASSHOPPER , JUST DONT GET INTO A STREET FIGHT.
taz391 3 years ago
Yes, I agree with Lee,just detest yur simple minded assumptions. That quote would apply to non-traditional, stick a sparkler up your ass/wave an aluminum bo around, and say yur a martial artist...those ppl make me sick. I grew up around some very unpleasant ppl & learned to fight on my own (or I would've gotten beaten2 a bloody pulp everyday). But what you learn from traditional forms like the ones I've spent my life studying allow you to take what u've learned & use it4 practical application.
StoicVamp 3 years ago
you are so right,one thing they all forget is when us traditional martial artist can still train and defend ourselves when we are in our 70,s these batton twirling nobs and so called mma fighters will be burnt out and good for nothing but slipping in there own shit,the reason the dont like traditional forms is cus they aint got the brains and the dedication,they all look for a quick way and there isn't one so they look for the easy option and slag of everything they dont understand,
wolvoboy 3 years ago
Rightly said.
Good to know there are traditional martial artists out there.
StoicVamp 3 years ago
as my school impresses to our students....
"there are NO microwaved badasses."
redneckninjanc 3 years ago
a bit harsh. mma takes as much dedication as tma does. of a different kind. you're right in that its the quick easy way. but thats what they train for....fighting. no culture, history, or anything else associated with tma. silly to compare the two because they're really not that different in application. it just depends on what you're training for.
kempobrad 2 years ago
he steps really loud O_O
pyroprodigy 4 years ago
looks like something from a 1970 kung fu movie
take up krav maga or muy thai with some jujitsu
b-4 some guy with a year of mma comes along and kicks your A_ _ dude
taz391 4 years ago
take up knife fighting point shooting and non sports martial arts before a guy with a ounce of rage and stregnth kicks yours you close minded bandwagoner
Eayne 4 years ago
Fucking wanna be BITCH.
ronman6 3 years ago
Q pelao desguañangau este.. quien t dijo que el Naihanchi Sandan es así???boludazo..hacete ver,,tns alguna cosa suelta, x eso t moves así--
PochoGuitar 4 years ago
:) Good
aiko4321 4 years ago