horowitz live 1968 pt 6 - plays rachmaninoff moment musical

[ImmortalSpecies]

This makes me think of havoc and sadness :).

[lovesGenet]

Lugansky has incredible fingers his Italian concerto is a fabulous reding of a 19 year old with pinpoint linear control - but few can get the almost spoken diction that comes from Horo's imposible tonal variety. horowitz was also a great musicin in his mind and soul so few wilcompare to him.Bolet had a greater technique professionals say but he never made my heart pulse either!

[kasyapa]

lovesGenet - bolet? are they mad? never.

[jghancockjr]

@kasyapa You got that right, kasy.

[demosj]

@lovesGenet Not even in his prime could Bolet compete with Horowitz technically. Not to mention Bolet admired Horowitz, if you've read his essay he wrote in tribute to H. after he died. I think Michelangeli and Hofmann alone could claim to possessing an equal or greater technique.

[drpol2]

Such a subtle interpretation of this piece. I wish we had a recording of Horowitz that picked up more of this subtlety

[kasyapa]

drpol2 - i've come more and more to believe that these live recordings are the only way to really get a grip on what horowitz was!

[aardvaark069]

@kasyapa With Hofman too. The true essence is in the live performances. So much studio work is like trying to capture lightening in a bottle. This goes double with the likes of Rubenstein who's studio work I think makes it sound as though he is sleepwalking.

[4785689]

coff coff

[Bret6464]

Found three more wonderful you tube clips of Rachmaninoff Moment M: Horowitz's No, 2 (great quality), Gilels' No5 (great quality) and Benno's No.4 (recording quality so-so) - all are extraordinary performences :-)))

[kasyapa]

they knew what they were doing, and they sourced it in the heart.

[Bret6464]

Yes - absolutely from the heart. Great that there are these extraordinary clips of rach moment here. I always loved the moment musicaux from when I was a kid, maybe because Rach was very young when he composed them and they have incredible emotion.

[Bret6464]

There are three truly great performences of Rachmaninoff's Moment Musicaux on you tube: Rachmaninoff performing Moment 2, Horowitz's Moment 3 (there is a better clip with great recording quality here) and Jung Lin's Moment 4......Incredible and memorable Rachmaninoff: his emotions, his passion and his unsurpassed creative genius. As he said, his Moment are "what is in my heart"

[kasyapa]

i'll have a special rare recording of another v.h./s.v.r. moment to go up before long. stay tuned.

[JDL615]

@moptophaha

You are joking! Horowitz is the one great interpreter of Rachmaninoff - Rachmaninoff said it! As bad as the quality of the clip and the noise, he performs with incredible feeling for this moment, the "Lament", and one can hear Horowitz' unsurpassed clarity and tonal clr!

Lugansky could not be Horowitz' shoe-shine boy - he should stick to lighter and pleasent fare!

[kasyapa]

now there's some 19th century passion! bravo.

[kasyapa]

btw, moptophaha is unlikely to know you were writing unless you reply to their original comment.

[JDL615]

@kasyapa Horowitz was a God, particularly performing Rachmaninoff. It's hard to understand how people can post comments on Horowitz videos saying "Lugansky is better", that is crazy nuts, and someone needs to say it!

[kasyapa]

lugansky has never made my pulse increase. :)

[Meanman332]

@kasyapa Have to agree, although he is technically flawless. This performance touched my heart. Thanks for uploading

[kasyapa]

Meanman332 - truly my pleasure. as mrs. h. said, mr. h. believed people should go to concerts for enjoyment. "a concert is not a lecture," he said.

[ThatRachGirl]

My word, was this recorded in a TB ward?

[kasyapa]

horowitz used to say that he knew he'd succeeded when there was silence - that "they should die before they cough." so you are of a mind with him. :)

[moptophaha]

I really, really, prefer Nikolai Lugansky's rendition. This is played really nicely, but I don't think it "gets" the piece. Lugansky seems to really understand the piece, wheras Horowitz sort of...plays it.

I dunno, but this is nice to listen to, wheras Lugansky's is beautiful to listen to.

[darley3]

It's funny, i feel exactly opposite about these two interpretations :)

[moptophaha]

hehe

[youvebeensmoked]

my god... horowitz does it again...

[Persiangulf127]

why do people save their coughs for concerts?

[MrBodom]

I think they want a piece of fame, aswell. One day, they can tell their grandchildren, "listen, that's me coughing there while the big Horowitz is playing". Gets on my nerves, aswell.

[demosj]

I've entertained that suspicion too. It is unbelievably selfish and irresponsible - the coughing damages Horowitz's recorded legacy. How are the sound engineers going to remove the audience noise?

Sometimes it's like: 'Hey, that recording of Horowitz playing the Liszt Consolation No. 3 you're listening to? It could have been his unmitigated sound, but I happened to have a cold that day so I decided to attend the concert and cough at inopportune moments! Suck on that!'

[MrBodom]

Yeah, you're right. I sometimes have to cough or clear my voiceat a concert, but I always wait until the piece is over. Because it really never is that urgent. But the best ones are the guys who unwrap sweets during the concert, I never know then whether I should laugh, cry or just get over there and bunch 'em (after the piece has ended, of course ;-) Anyway, these people prevent any deep musical feeling by selfishly interrupting them. Makes me mad.

[aladinschneider]

You are right .... I hate these cough intruding suckers. They should go to hospital !

[aewanko300]

It's also due to the atmospheric conditions present at a hall. Most of the coughs aren't intentional, unless they're paid hecklers.

[demosj]

On the other hand, this is HOROWITZ. He didn't concertize very heavily after his first retirement. His recitals were promoted as special events since he limited his appearances.

Miss one concert and they might never get another opportunity to hear him live again. I dislike the inconsiderate bastards for tainting his live recordings, but I can still sort of understand why they would go to the concert even when they know they shouldn't.

[demosj]

That's one advantage Heavy rock/metal/rap/ect. has over classical - cough over there and no one notices due to the shrill screaming.

I can't think of any others though.

[blackkeymaestro]

@demosj: Hillarious comment :-)

[FabioThePianist]

I love this moment musical :-(

[thdkid]

Is this infamous broken string November 24, 1968 recital?  Most of the Rachmaninoff Prelude, Moment Musical, and Sonata issued by CBS were taken from that recital.

[pianovideo]

I thought the sonata was taken from a Dec 1968 recital

[thdkid]

It says that in the CD booklet, but according to the recording logs, much was taken from another recital a month earlier.