Sambo and Bjj come from Judo, I have a russian booklet that has blk and white pictures of that move. book was made in the 70's. Bjj is Old school Judo style competion.....Judo's founder changed the competition rules because he felt that students were not using enough good technique. Sambo is old school Judo with a mix of wrestling styles and a more combat emphasis
Sambo and Bjj come from Judo I have a russian booklet that has blk and white pictures of that move. book was made in the 70's. Bjj is Old school Judo style competion.....Judo's founder changed the competition rules because he felt that students were not using enough good technique. Sambo is old school Judo with a mix of wrestling styles and a more combat emphasis
In a real fight your likely be wearing pants. Attackers arm would snap long before you'd have to release from his bite. You don't do these techniques gradualy in self defence, but crush the attackers limb.
I'm gonna get my gun outta my jacket and shoot the motherf*cker down :) I've tried to be cool crushing only his arm, but when he's playing dirty so am I :)
i like arm bars for street fighting. like say a kid throws a jab with his left i grab kick under his right arm and throw my other leg over his neck throw him down and bend his elbow the opposite way.
coming from some one who cant even spell fight. and i wont hit my head and if i throw a fore-arm at his elbow and break it i can easily get up and fuck anyone up before anything happens to me and if like 3 people jump in i pull out my knife and kill all of them.
okay i never said i needed a knife. i could still take them but it would make it to where i might not have to and make it faster and teach all the other fuckers that they dont wanna jump me. could still do it without the knife but knives are deadlier and faster.
@hairypitsarouseme jesus christ. i was a little fuckin dick 10 months ago hahahaha. shit i actually started taking mixed martial arts for about 6 months and i disagree with the armbar thing completely. i ended up having to fight a few people at a time at school and i was winning for a total of like 45 seconds. it involved alot of teeth kicks haha. sorry for being a queer. i grew up alot and realized people who talk shit on the internet are fuckin gay.
yes but during the fight..what would you rather happen?you stand up and try fighting them off and most likely get thrown to the ground and stomped or being stomped while giving an armbar and if they keep going just...snap it
It's funny how people comment about a martial art they more than likely no little to nothing about and then boast about a martial artist where most of what you see in films is choreographed and rehearsed to make an actor look good. Sammo Hung and Jackie Chan are good martial artists, they both did "human punching bag" work for Bruce Lee. Don't boast Hollywood stuntwork for something that doesn't validate what could turn out in a REAL practical fight....dumb ass....
it depends on the fighter these guys are about submission rite now jackie chan is his own stunt man he doesn't get hurt tht much plus he learns hand to hand combat so i think before these guys could get in a submission jackie chan would knock them out
HEllo Steven!! I have a question . Wiil you show vertushka throw in future???? You are great teacher, my dream is see it! What do you think about these throw. Regards from Poland!! KAROL
lol jiu-jistu bjj smbo what ever you call it usung grapple grabs takedowns in a fight as your main offence imo is the best wai and my favorite wai of fighting
like someone already said "everything has jiu-jitsu influence nowadays" Sambo, BJJ, and Judo are all relatives, through jiu-jitsu, so of course some parts look the same
but aside :36 - :37 is the beauty in this move that's what it all depends on
everyone talking about how bjj is so great, all it is, is people came from japan and taught the gracies jiu jitsu they then commercialized it and get all the credit even though the freakin samurais did jiu jitsu 600 years ago!
Viktor Spiridonov,was one of the founding fathers of Sambo which is an eclectic style of Russian folk wrestling as well as Asian Martial Arts & military training. Sambo is the 3rd style of international sports wrestling
Who cares about who invented what. Learn new techniques, add them to your game and keep improving. It's a personal journey. The journey is more important than the destination. Tue in life and martial arts.
Maeda the guy who teach JJ to Helio Gracie was a former Judoka who also study KOSEN Judo wich is a variation fo Judo that only covers groundwork
Then Helio stole the moves change their names and claim that he has created a new art, he even claimed to invented the triangle while is a traditional Judo Newaza tech called Senkaku Jime
I respect sambo cause they have inovated and they dont deny their roots but BBJ well they are just a bucnh of robbers
And how about "the twister". This guy called Eddie Bravo claimed that he invented, and I´m prety sure is a wrestling move. Could you chek it for me, just type edie bravo twister adn tell me ok? Thanks bro, let´s show the world BJJ is no more than stealing techniques instead of creating moves of it´s own
I don't know anything about Bravo but if the twister is what I think it is... I didn't realize that every time I got a neck crank from a poor position with a leg triangle, that I was inventing a technique. Real samboist and wrestlers can play a technique from many different positions at least that's how I learned from Gokor, Gene Labell and Sonnon.
So, to get the neck crank from that inferior position, you would need to isolate the movement and joint, hence the Leg triangle/saddle position.
Ok, Gracie is partially right. Back then even most Japnese referred to Kano's Judo as Jiujitsu or Kano's jiujitsu.
BUT THE FACT remains GJJ holds no linkage to Traditonal JJ ANY FURTHER THAN Judo/Kano's Jiujitsu. Which again makes it a brother art of Sambo. Thereby making your claim of this tech. as GJJ FALSE.
You guys are going to tell me that the Japanese who have this as history is wrong. The Japanese say that the Gracie's were taught Jiu-Jitsu who the hell are you to say they weren't?. Kombat you may be right about Mitsuyo not knowing Jiu-Jitsu, and I maybe wrong about the name but history states Maeda taught the Gracie's Jiu-Jitsu and now I know it was Esai Maeda and not Mitsuyo, but that does not change the fact that the Gracie's wer taught Jiu-Jitsu, Japanese history says so!
No, Japnese dont have it wrong. The Gracies do, and you believe them b/c you cant distinguish the difference in Traditional Japanese Jiujitsu, Judo and GJJ.
In the early 1900's, a Japanese jiu-jitsu instructor by the name of Esai Maeda went to the state of Para in Northern Brazil. There he befriended Gastao Gracie, an influential businessman, who helped the Japanese get established. To show his gratitude, Maeda, also known as "Count Koma," offered to teach the traditional Japanese jiu-jitsu to Gastao's oldest son, Carlos!
I told you how they- GJJ and Sambo are half brother arts,(BOTH FROM JUDO, NOT JIUJITSU) BUT YOU INSIST that GJJ is older/original and offer no other evidence other than-
1. What the Gracies says.
2. Popularity
You don't even know how the art of traditional JJ is like either. Or how Kano changed it to Judo.
If you didn't try to claim every techniques as GJJ in origin there wouldn't be this debate.
"It is often claimed that BJJ is a development of traditional Japanese jujutsu, and that Maeda was a jujutsuka. However, Maeda never trained in jujutsu. He first trained in sumo as a teenager, and after the interest generated by stories about the success of judo at contests between judo and jujutsu that were occurring at the time, he changed from sumo to judo, becoming a student of Kano's Kodokan judo.
Again, you obviously dont know anything about your own art.
You are so quick to go to wikipideia and try to tell me history. Yet you dont seem to think it apllies to you cause you BELIEVE Gracies learned Jiujitsu and not Judo.
Jigoro Kano taught Mitsuyo Maeda and Maeda taught Carlos Gracie, Carlos Gracie then taught Helio, however Carlos did not modify the techniques he was taught by Maeda, Helio on the other had modified what Carlos taught him. Helio taught Carlos son Rolls and Rolls added wrestling to the system. Hence other students began to add things like the "Half Guard" and the list goes on. My original premise was that the technique was a Gracie modified technique. There was no reason for it to get to this!
Can't have a decent discussion without some idiot wanting to start calling other folks ignorant or other names! This is a discussion and video podium. I know it's free speech but damm we just talking Jiu-jitsu and sambo. I didn't create either system and neither did you two, so why are you two ladies taking this so personal. Are you two wearing gi's or tampons?.....I'm done with the Jiu-Jitsu vs Sambo, Japanese Jiu-jitsu vs Gracie.
Oh yeah and for this Bitch Samozaschita calling me out. I never get upset with internet warriors! You can talk all the bullshit you want, I'm not on here to call names but I will say this anytime you or your boy Kombat Sambo want to show me how good your techniques are I don't have a problem with that. If it's feasible I'll meet both of you on the same day and we can have a little demonstration on who knows what and how good they know it, other than that fuck both of you sensitive bitches!
I'm not sure this got out of hand but I'm merely stating that the Carlos Gracie was taught Jiu-Jitsu, he then taught Helio Jiu-Jitsu. The Jiu-Jitsu that Helio then modified it by adding techniques and other movements, Rolls Gracie added wrestling and throught the years others have modified it by adding techniques. So I don't know what the arguement is about Helio Gracie was taught Japanese Jiu-Jitsu in it's purest form and then modified it by adding techniques. How much different can it be!
kombatSambo is right, Maeda brought Judo to Brazil, not jiu-jitsu. Helio focused on newaza (ground-fighting) Judo just because of his physical conditions, he was rather skinny and weak so this allowed him to 'submit' bigger and stronger guys, and that's how BJJ born
Maeda was a Judo student of Jigoro but the Gracies stated and it has always been stated that they were taught Jiu-Jitsu. Carlos Gracie stated he was taught Jiu-Jitsu and Helio states he was taught Jiu-Jitsu and Judo origins are from Jiu-Jitsu. Maeda sensi was Jigoro and although Jigoro create Judo he was a sensi of Jiu-Jitsu first and his Judo came form his Jiu-Jitsu. I don't know what Carlos was really taught but he and history says it was Jiu-Jitsu...I didn't make that up!
Jigoro Kano was trained in Jiu-Jitsu and that's what he originally taught, in fact if Maeda was one of Jigoro's original students he learned Jiu-Jitsu first and then was taught Judo. The history of Jigoro Kano tells you this that his students transitioned over to the new system after being students of Jiu-Jitsu!
Upon arriving in the Kodokan, Maeda, who was 164cm tall and weighted 64kg, was confused with a delivery boy due to his country manners and demeanor. Judo's founder Kano Jigoro spotted the boy, and promptly assigned him to Tsunejiro Tomita (4th dan),
"Mitsuyo Maeda formed with Soishiro Satake the head of the second generation of Kodokan judoka which replaced the first by the beginning of the 20th century"
He was not the 1st of Kano's student but second generation. Tsunejiro Tomita was from the 1st. He was already 4th Dan when Maeda was a boy at KODOKAN!
You don't even know what the fuck your arguing about where the fuck do you think Gracie Jiu-Jitsu came from. the word Jiu-Jitsu is Japanese you fucking moron! an Arm bar is a fucking armbar no matter how you go about getting it! The format of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu and the fucking leg it stands on is from the techniques of Jiu-Jitsu which again is Japanese! What is your fucking argument here! Hell the creator of Sambo was a student of Jigoro Kano argue that you fuck'en Moron. You don't know shit!
Not to mention many schools of Japanese JJ perform Kensetsuwaza (joint locking) while maintaining a position of advantage (standing up) -much like kungfu (chin-na). Unlike GJJ that takes the ground (guard)position.
You need to do some research into the martial arts and stop being a "tool" for the Gracies.
I knew you gonna say that. GJJ IS NOT Traditional JJ. Helio/Carlos did NOT LEARN Japnese JiuJitsu. They learned JUDO. Maeda was Kano's student. Check your facts. Japanese Jiujitsu does NOT look anything like GJJ. GJJ doens't even look like JUDO! GJJ is just a part of JUDO the newaza(groundfighting) part. Most other aspects of Kano's Judo have been discarded by GJJ.
You can talk all the cute little girly talk you want and try to prove me wrong, go ask an adult and show him my platform. Gracie Jiu-Jitsu is basically Japanese Jiu-Jitsu and Judo. They can't be brothers if Jiu-Jitsu is the front runner from which GJJ was born. How can they be half brothers if one was born from the other Gracie Jiu-Jitsu was born from Japanese Jiu-Jisu so how can they be brothers! After hearing that I see I can no longer waste time talking to you. Half Brothers that's was funny!
Carlos Gracie was taught pure Japanese Jiu-Jitsu, he trained Helio in pure Japanese Jiu-Jitsu, Helio added somethings, Rolls added some wrestling but did the basic technique change? no it did not for example. The Rubber Guard by Eddie Bravo is a whole new set up to get to the basic fundementals of Jiu-Jitsu. Mission Control will take you to what? a armbar, triangle choke, omma plata.
There are modifications but the end results are the same, in the end( the submission) it's still Japanese!
very true...sambo focuses more on takedowns and leg locks...ive added a little sambo techniques to my BJJ (i prefer BJJ rather than GJJ for the fact a lot of other people besides the gracies have contributed to it)
Hmm i can get people in arm bars but i cant manage to really get them to tap out. i dont if its my technique or if i misunderstood the real function of the armbar.
extend ur hips out as u pull there wrist into ur chest. do it aplying pressure from moderate to extreem until the person taps. think about it like u would push ur hips when ur fucking a women but instead of a vagina its a elbow. lol
In one paragraph you want to claim the techniques as GJJ- "gracie art is japaneese in nature with modifications made by the family gracie hence "Gracie Jiu-Jitsu" so the technique shown is more closely related to the Gracie technique"
Then in your next comment you say it is Japanese Jiujitsu.
Maybe, you should prove to me how this is GJJ technique- since that was the original comment. Stating the fact that Sambo, in part came from Judo, does not prove it is GJJ technique.
I was talking about the techique being shown, not the arm bar itself. The technique being shown on how to counter when your opponent pulls his arm out and you counter with another arm bar that's what I was commenting on I took judo for a time and that counter never came up, so I was commenting on that technique when I said it was GJJ in nature.
As I stated the technique of the arm bar is modified, I first saw that counter about 9yrs ago at a seminar hosted by John Jacques Machado!
I guess only GJJ can come up with modifications to an armbar...right? 9 yrs ago,...well, the basis of Sambo was being formed in the Soviet Union when Helio was still being spoon fed by his mommie. Claiming everything as GJJ again huh...?
I dunno what is with the combination of - internet + BJJ = elitist
Hey I'm not bashing Sambo bro, even if Sambo did have that modification GJJ or BJJ has been very popular! Folks knew about Sambo but it was GJJ that has garnered much of the attention and in doing that many folks saw these techniques done for the first time via GJJ style. And it's more popular right now! the whole GJJ and BJJ thing! Fedor has brought attention to Sambo, even Rickson gave me some insight to the art in an interview, however Jiu-Jitsu and it's techniques have been around longer!
There you go again, mixing GJJ and Japanese Jiujitsu as one. Japanese Jiujitsu has been around longer than both GJJ and Sambo- they are more like half brother arts. To use analogy- GJJ CANNOT claim any Sambo technique as theirs anymore than 2 half brothers can claim to be the father of the other one.
And was does POPULARITY have to do with the origins of a technique!? Your begining to sound like a teenager.
Your not listening GJJ is Japanese Jiu-Jitsu except for some modifications, the techniques in GJJ or BJJ are Jiu-Jitsu and if they are Jiu-Jitsu then they are Japanese, Jiu-Jitsu is Japanese so GJJ and or BJJ can only be Japanese Jiu-Jitsu with some modifications, Helio didn't create the armbar, the triangle choke or the omma plata these techniques were part of Japanese Jiu-Jitsu. What the Gracies did was create a flowing ground game and that's it, sweeps and take downs are still Japanese origin
Ok this should ease your mind: The word Cambo(Sambo) is an acronym of САМозащита Без Оружия (SAMozashchita Bez Oruzhiya) meaning "self-defense without weapons" in Russian. Sambo has its roots in Japanese judo and traditional folk styles of wrestling such as Armenian Koch, Georgian Chidaoba, Moldovan Trîntǎ, Uzbek Kurash, Mongolian Khapsagay and Azerbaijani Gulesh. Sambo has it's root from Japanese Judo....Now this is straight from Wikipedia....check it out yourself!
Hey man this dude died because he refused to deny he learned Judo from Kano Jigoro! now that's some dedication to your art! He died standing up for his teacher and his education and love of his sport!...Apparently you don't know the history of Sambo, and your a little annoyed with the GJJ and BJJ thing but just like GJJ and BJJ Sambo is in the same boat it's origins are Japanese in origin. Do your history bro, hell Sambo even has American Catch in it. No Charge for the Education Kombat Sambo!
I'm not going to fuss anymore about this you have your traditional japanese jiu-jitsu from which gracie jiu-jitsu was born and then you have your competition jiu-jitsu which have various modifications and added techniques. My point was that Gracie Jiu-Jitsu was born from Japanese Jiu-Jitsu and for the most part the basic fundemental of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu still holds it's Japanese roots! but in the end who can say what, it is also believed that the Japanese learned this art from the Chinese. Done!
vincespell- you are such a fuckin idiot! Gracie jiujistu comes form Judo. kombatsambo is right. You think just cause the Gracies puts the word jiujitsu in the back of their name it's same as Japanese Jiujitsu? wake up son!
Ok you moronic mother#@###@@@ Jigoro was trained in Jiu-Jitsu that was his art, he then modified the art and created Judo...Judo comes from Jiu-Jitsu....it's all relative unlike your brains and ability to know what your talking about you or Kombat don't know the history of your disciplines, your just on here talking about what you learned in the bathroom after practice. Jigoro Kano was a Jiu-Jitsu disciple who transform Jiu-Jitsu into a gentle form of called Judo. Judo comes from Jiu-Jitsu!
The founders of Sambo were Vasili Oshchepkov (who died during the political purges of 1937 for refusing to deny his education in judo under its founder Kano Jigoro) and Viktor Spiridonov. They independently developed two different styles, both with the same name. Spirdonov's style was a soft, aikido-like system developed after he was maimed during the First World War.[1] Anatoly Kharlampiev, a student of Victor Spirdonov, is often officially recognized as the founder of Sport Sambo.
Yes the techniques is Japanese. But did you think about what does that have to do with Kakabeblen comment when he says its GJJ? By your way of thinking he is just as wrong then- cause GJJ comes from Judo. Thereby making the technique not GJJ but Japanese Jiujitsu. Yet you want to say he is right when he says its GJJ. Unless in your mind GJJ and Judo/traditional Jiujitsu is one and the same. Does the term "double standard" come to mind?
Contrary to your belief, GJJ/BJJ does not have a patent on ground techniques. Just cause some art does ground/grappling techniques it does not mean it came from BJJ.
The armbar is a japaneese technique and gracie jiu-jitsu is derived from the japaneese art of jiu-jitsu, gracie art is japaneese in nature with modifications made by the family gracie hence "Gracie Jiu-Jitsu" so the technique shown is more closely related to the Gracie technique, it is not an original Sambo technique so Kakabelen is correct in his assesment of this particular technique! Although I may not have been so colorful in my lanquage. However Kakabeblen is correct in his stand on this!
Thxs for the history lesson on the origins of GJJ. Unfortunately, for you the fact is, Sambo was formed in the former Soviet Union without the influence of Helio or anyone from Brazil. So stop trying to claim everything as BJJ/GJJ.
have u seen how many videos these guys have it must be their life
koolguygsj 6 months ago
or if he pulls that arm out, you could go for the omoplata. good video
superjail1000 6 months ago
kick ass i'm tryin this at the gym
elgrau1 7 months ago 2
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Sambo and Bjj come from Judo, I have a russian booklet that has blk and white pictures of that move. book was made in the 70's. Bjj is Old school Judo style competion.....Judo's founder changed the competition rules because he felt that students were not using enough good technique. Sambo is old school Judo with a mix of wrestling styles and a more combat emphasis
schaelakhan 8 months ago
Sambo and Bjj come from Judo I have a russian booklet that has blk and white pictures of that move. book was made in the 70's. Bjj is Old school Judo style competion.....Judo's founder changed the competition rules because he felt that students were not using enough good technique. Sambo is old school Judo with a mix of wrestling styles and a more combat emphasis
schaelakhan 8 months ago
that is bjj move - "arm bar" or judo move - "juji gatame" ..if u interestend in russian combat sambo/sambo or judo..pm me =) thumbs up :)
debili019 9 months ago
0:23 gay!
naveah123212 10 months ago
grazie:)
linopetro 10 months ago
Sorry to say this but that was a very shitty full guard to armbar technique..
MrLOKILLO15 10 months ago
he could punch u right in the face when u were switching.
jcsf3 1 year ago
@jcsf3 no because if you are doing it right u will move quick enough to not let that happen
yomo251 11 months ago
he could punch u
jcsf3 1 year ago
Very nice transition!!. Bravo.
Mocktezuma111 1 year ago
this movement is ju jutsu
aladonocturno 2 years ago
hmm...here's an idea, BREAK HIS ARM! hehe or choke that sucka out.
bruce7ee 2 years ago
hmm ... i'm just wondering what you do if the guy starts sinking his teeth into your leg while you're doing that.
JuanDeSoCal 2 years ago
Break it, he'll stop real fast lol
jackarf1 2 years ago
No biting in mma.
In a real fight your likely be wearing pants. Attackers arm would snap long before you'd have to release from his bite. You don't do these techniques gradualy in self defence, but crush the attackers limb.
TheRealParagon 1 year ago 2
I'm gonna get my gun outta my jacket and shoot the motherf*cker down :) I've tried to be cool crushing only his arm, but when he's playing dirty so am I :)
xxxyyy143 1 year ago
@JuanDeSoCal You'll have a big bite in your leg and the other guy will have 1 functioning arm
LiNaK37 1 year ago
pretty basic to me..
aoaapocalpse 2 years ago
sick fuckin armbar..the transition made it look that much more awesome
Desjarlais07 2 years ago
SAMBO is Russian National Sport.Americans we can only eat your humburgers and cola.fuck you
MsKeshon 2 years ago
I think you have had to say something important to you, something what affected your feelings, but you failed.
How your moronic behavior will serve to you or your nation?
If you eat only hamburgers and cola then don't generalize this shit at all Russians, you fucking slut.
Мудило, не неси хуйню или хотя бы выучи язык, чтобы твой бред не оскорблял заодно и твоих сограждан.
malicesgossips 2 years ago
i like arm bars for street fighting. like say a kid throws a jab with his left i grab kick under his right arm and throw my other leg over his neck throw him down and bend his elbow the opposite way.
baconlover02 2 years ago
wut if ur on the street. u could hit ur head. in street fites people always bring their buddies too. so its not smart to go on the ground
brandonlamchops 2 years ago
coming from some one who cant even spell fight. and i wont hit my head and if i throw a fore-arm at his elbow and break it i can easily get up and fuck anyone up before anything happens to me and if like 3 people jump in i pull out my knife and kill all of them.
baconlover02 2 years ago
the fact you need a knife just shows that you are a wimp
Reznor13524 2 years ago
okay i never said i needed a knife. i could still take them but it would make it to where i might not have to and make it faster and teach all the other fuckers that they dont wanna jump me. could still do it without the knife but knives are deadlier and faster.
baconlover02 2 years ago
You need to be quiet now little boy. Go watch your Sponge Bob.
hairypitsarouseme 2 years ago 8
@hairypitsarouseme jesus christ. i was a little fuckin dick 10 months ago hahahaha. shit i actually started taking mixed martial arts for about 6 months and i disagree with the armbar thing completely. i ended up having to fight a few people at a time at school and i was winning for a total of like 45 seconds. it involved alot of teeth kicks haha. sorry for being a queer. i grew up alot and realized people who talk shit on the internet are fuckin gay.
baconlover02 1 year ago
yes but during the fight..what would you rather happen?you stand up and try fighting them off and most likely get thrown to the ground and stomped or being stomped while giving an armbar and if they keep going just...snap it
Desjarlais07 2 years ago
Awsome!!!
UniverzalBeat 2 years ago
the first part of the the technique is similar as a technique of Krav Maga
Sakurainblue 2 years ago
thats pretty cool. I've never though of doing that.
W6COllirac 2 years ago
How the hell do you do an armbar it kills my dick and balls
Fupper16 2 years ago
thats why you squeeze your knees together, or put it on your hip bone.
kempobrad 2 years ago
Cuz you have a weak dick and balls lol, nah they wear a cup in mma fights and competitions xD
KeoniKaleAkao 2 years ago
nice
THEDONSULLIVAN 2 years ago
jaki chan would rape u guys
Ascendancy212 2 years ago
sammo hung would rape you.
tincannmann 2 years ago
It's funny how people comment about a martial art they more than likely no little to nothing about and then boast about a martial artist where most of what you see in films is choreographed and rehearsed to make an actor look good. Sammo Hung and Jackie Chan are good martial artists, they both did "human punching bag" work for Bruce Lee. Don't boast Hollywood stuntwork for something that doesn't validate what could turn out in a REAL practical fight....dumb ass....
OmegaXIII 2 years ago
it depends on the fighter these guys are about submission rite now jackie chan is his own stunt man he doesn't get hurt tht much plus he learns hand to hand combat so i think before these guys could get in a submission jackie chan would knock them out
ihbo7 2 years ago
yeah this is a great armbar
iwanttofight69 2 years ago
I bet you cant click here
Cantclickheree 2 years ago
WOW NICE
Danielxbow 2 years ago
HEllo Steven!! I have a question . Wiil you show vertushka throw in future???? You are great teacher, my dream is see it! What do you think about these throw. Regards from Poland!! KAROL
karoldziad 2 years ago
that is indeed a pretty nice move.
i should remember this. in fact, ALL OF US should remember that move!
kobeke88 2 years ago
my cat grey and my dog a min pin. tess practice these kinds of moves on eachother... one time i practiced the spinning back kick on a ninja
themeanguyguy 2 years ago
Wow very good.
thisismynames 2 years ago
I loved when Fedor used this against that giant korean dude
peterlololool 2 years ago
he never used it on choi.
moschetty 2 years ago
I think he did used juji gatame (armbar) on Choi, and there is a video on youtube on that matter.
Sicpebrate 2 years ago
he used an armbar, but not the way its shown in this video.
moschetty 2 years ago
Hong man choi. that was a great fight
noahman10 2 years ago
the armbar of life dangles like the moons sweaty balls, dripping every day away.
soccadude123 2 years ago
beautiful
pjtheman1 2 years ago
wow nice move thank you for the knowledge
JediTrekie311 2 years ago
veryy nice move
ToshiiMoshii 2 years ago
i killed my cat with this move =D
cantdenyit718 2 years ago 16
lol
StrongSide55 2 years ago 3
lol
angelf1 2 years ago
lol
SneakyVengeance 2 years ago
=( R.i.p Mittens.
cantdenyit718 2 years ago
lmfao
muscleboobs 2 years ago
My cat killed my dog with this move.
therambo220 2 years ago 3
lmao
jp999r 2 years ago
@cantdenyit718 FUCKINZG LOL!!!!!!!!
legolegolego519 1 year ago
@cantdenyit718 wait.. what?! :D
dshojudo 1 year ago
thats how i lost my first combat sambo fight :(
boxx88sambo 2 years ago
pause at 0:25
shoalinn 2 years ago
Dudes, he looks like a Jedi :D
DemonHide 2 years ago
Those shorts seem fine to me , and it also prevents your opponet from grabbing onto your shorts to hold you.
TheShiningHero 2 years ago
Sambo would be perfect if they didnt wear those queer shorts
b34rh34d 2 years ago
Good Lesson :)
TheShiningHero 2 years ago
look at those booty shorts
gamez31 2 years ago 2
lol jiu-jistu bjj smbo what ever you call it usung grapple grabs takedowns in a fight as your main offence imo is the best wai and my favorite wai of fighting
guerilla619 3 years ago 2
everybody, nobody listen to mrmonkeyman hes a crazyman
MMASmack 3 years ago
he looks like a guy who was on that 70's show, he was Kelso's boss and he hired Eric to do waiter services, right. and he killed kelso
MMASmack 3 years ago
like someone already said "everything has jiu-jitsu influence nowadays" Sambo, BJJ, and Judo are all relatives, through jiu-jitsu, so of course some parts look the same
but aside :36 - :37 is the beauty in this move that's what it all depends on
FrostyTheOatmealBoy 3 years ago
wow lol that was definetly jiu-jitsu lol
6blackdude6 3 years ago
everyone talking about how bjj is so great, all it is, is people came from japan and taught the gracies jiu jitsu they then commercialized it and get all the credit even though the freakin samurais did jiu jitsu 600 years ago!
mrfunnymonkeyman 3 years ago
Nice troll, monkey man.
Get a fuckign clue.
gordonacosta 3 years ago
they only modernized it according to their own brazilian perspective. :P u wouldnt know a grown man if u met one, monkey man
MMASmack 3 years ago
is this really Sambo, it looks likes BJJ?..
jangear 3 years ago
wrestling judo kickboxing
NorthAmericanWarrior 3 years ago
judo had armbars waaaaaaaaay before brazilian jiu jitsu
mrfunnymonkeyman 3 years ago
jangear
Sambo has just as many Arm Locks,not as many chokes, but far more Leg Locks
Acekicken 3 years ago
Leg Locks that sounds interesting thanks Acekicken... i would like look in to it to learn Sumbo
also can you tell me how did Sumbo came about?...
jangear 3 years ago
Viktor Spiridonov,was one of the founding fathers of Sambo which is an eclectic style of Russian folk wrestling as well as Asian Martial Arts & military training. Sambo is the 3rd style of international sports wrestling
Acekicken 3 years ago
thanks...
jangear 2 years ago
anytime
Acekicken 2 years ago
Oh yeah, everything drills the Muay Thai round kick with shin now too ^^. this is a good thing
dss103 3 years ago
everything has jiu-jitsu influence nowadays. Its kind of mandatory everywhere now.
dss103 3 years ago
I swear. it seems BJJ nutthuggers can't even look things. Please people do some research. It is not hard
ckd04 3 years ago
O ok man thank
Cezer35 3 years ago
wow thats a kick ass move
Jiggacake 3 years ago
hm looks like straight up bjj to me
loogy123 3 years ago
Sure does. it looks just exactly like judo and Japanese Ju Jitsu too.
BJJ has absolutely not ties to the creation of Sambo through lineage.
ckd04 3 years ago
judo and japanese jiu jitsu had armbars waaaaay before brazilian jiu jitsu
mrfunnymonkeyman 3 years ago
thats funny, because judo came waaaaaaay after jujutsu....
MMASmack 3 years ago
so sambo is a combination of wrestling and bjj
Cezer35 3 years ago
except that sambo is way older than bjj or wrestling...
Itsnok 3 years ago
O so wreslting and BJJ incorporated sambo in their art right
Cezer35 3 years ago
Wreslting and Judo
ckd04 3 years ago
sambo isnt older than bjj. it derived from Judo and bjj
andyman2223 3 years ago
Wresling goes back thousands of years Sambo goes back to early 1900's
ckd04 3 years ago
Wrong it is a combination of Judo and wrestling
ckd04 3 years ago
that was really cool
ussdchai 3 years ago
from the 2nd position, an omoplata/footlock would have been possible
thefool1234 3 years ago
Sambo is the way to go, BLOODY and real
Bloodyhand1976 3 years ago
Who cares about who invented what. Learn new techniques, add them to your game and keep improving. It's a personal journey. The journey is more important than the destination. Tue in life and martial arts.
jizzardwizard 3 years ago
Sambo is brutal
reaperofgenocide 3 years ago
2 minutes of heaven
12valvepower1 3 years ago
No one can really claim that they invented a move, they can only discover it themselves.
iplayelectricguitar 3 years ago
This coment goes all the bjj guy watching this
Maeda the guy who teach JJ to Helio Gracie was a former Judoka who also study KOSEN Judo wich is a variation fo Judo that only covers groundwork
Then Helio stole the moves change their names and claim that he has created a new art, he even claimed to invented the triangle while is a traditional Judo Newaza tech called Senkaku Jime
I respect sambo cause they have inovated and they dont deny their roots but BBJ well they are just a bucnh of robbers
OctaviousBelmont 3 years ago 3
Not to mention that there is film footage of the old school American wrestlers using the scissor leg choke well before bjj "created " it.
vyvial 3 years ago
And how about "the twister". This guy called Eddie Bravo claimed that he invented, and I´m prety sure is a wrestling move. Could you chek it for me, just type edie bravo twister adn tell me ok? Thanks bro, let´s show the world BJJ is no more than stealing techniques instead of creating moves of it´s own
OctaviousBelmont 3 years ago
I don't know anything about Bravo but if the twister is what I think it is... I didn't realize that every time I got a neck crank from a poor position with a leg triangle, that I was inventing a technique. Real samboist and wrestlers can play a technique from many different positions at least that's how I learned from Gokor, Gene Labell and Sonnon.
So, to get the neck crank from that inferior position, you would need to isolate the movement and joint, hence the Leg triangle/saddle position.
vyvial 3 years ago
Gokor and Scott Sonnon are awsome, keep fighting bro. Thanks
OctaviousBelmont 3 years ago
Bravo himself said that it is a wrestling move.
He is a true innovator and the sport needs more of that.
Moleculow 3 years ago
no correct! maeda sensei was KODOKAN JUDO! not kosen remember that.
mddog 3 years ago
Ok, Gracie is partially right. Back then even most Japnese referred to Kano's Judo as Jiujitsu or Kano's jiujitsu.
BUT THE FACT remains GJJ holds no linkage to Traditonal JJ ANY FURTHER THAN Judo/Kano's Jiujitsu. Which again makes it a brother art of Sambo. Thereby making your claim of this tech. as GJJ FALSE.
kombatSambo 3 years ago
You guys are going to tell me that the Japanese who have this as history is wrong. The Japanese say that the Gracie's were taught Jiu-Jitsu who the hell are you to say they weren't?. Kombat you may be right about Mitsuyo not knowing Jiu-Jitsu, and I maybe wrong about the name but history states Maeda taught the Gracie's Jiu-Jitsu and now I know it was Esai Maeda and not Mitsuyo, but that does not change the fact that the Gracie's wer taught Jiu-Jitsu, Japanese history says so!
vincespell 3 years ago
No, Japnese dont have it wrong. The Gracies do, and you believe them b/c you cant distinguish the difference in Traditional Japanese Jiujitsu, Judo and GJJ.
kombatSambo 3 years ago
In the early 1900's, a Japanese jiu-jitsu instructor by the name of Esai Maeda went to the state of Para in Northern Brazil. There he befriended Gastao Gracie, an influential businessman, who helped the Japanese get established. To show his gratitude, Maeda, also known as "Count Koma," offered to teach the traditional Japanese jiu-jitsu to Gastao's oldest son, Carlos!
vincespell 3 years ago
That is pretty much just a paragraph taken out of a book written by the Gracies. I've read it too.
So, its point 3. Gracies said so...yea ok.
kombatSambo 3 years ago
5. I could go further and tell you how Kano changed Jiujitsu to Judo and how GJJ is more like Judo than JJJ.
Where is YOUR EVIDENCE to support GJJ influnece on Sambo? in particular this tech.? so far i got-
1. attempt at direct link to Japanese JJ (refuted by points given)
2. Popularity...?!
3. Gracies said so. yea Ok.
4. Did I miss one of your points? NOPE
kombatSambo 3 years ago
To sum it up. This is not a GJJ tech. cause-
1.Chronlogically GJJ is from JUDO, SAME as Sambo
2. Lineage wise GJJ is actually younger than Sambo GJJ(Kano->Maeda->Gracie) Sambo(Kano->Oschepkov)
3.Geographically no history or evidence of influence from Brazil to Russia.
4. GJJ is UNLIKE traditional JJ (SOME reasons given b4) thereby refute your attempt at direct link to JJJ.
kombatSambo 3 years ago
Taking it personal? Not me, but it seems you are.
I told you how they- GJJ and Sambo are half brother arts,(BOTH FROM JUDO, NOT JIUJITSU) BUT YOU INSIST that GJJ is older/original and offer no other evidence other than-
1. What the Gracies says.
2. Popularity
You don't even know how the art of traditional JJ is like either. Or how Kano changed it to Judo.
If you didn't try to claim every techniques as GJJ in origin there wouldn't be this debate.
kombatSambo 3 years ago
WIKIPEDIA-
"The art was based on early 20th century Kodokan Judo ,[2][1] which was itself then a recently-developed system"
kombatSambo 3 years ago
FROM WIKIPEDIA-
"It is often claimed that BJJ is a development of traditional Japanese jujutsu, and that Maeda was a jujutsuka. However, Maeda never trained in jujutsu. He first trained in sumo as a teenager, and after the interest generated by stories about the success of judo at contests between judo and jujutsu that were occurring at the time, he changed from sumo to judo, becoming a student of Kano's Kodokan judo.
kombatSambo 3 years ago
Again, you obviously dont know anything about your own art.
You are so quick to go to wikipideia and try to tell me history. Yet you dont seem to think it apllies to you cause you BELIEVE Gracies learned Jiujitsu and not Judo.
JUST CAUSED THEY SAY SO.
kombatSambo 3 years ago
Jigoro Kano taught Mitsuyo Maeda and Maeda taught Carlos Gracie, Carlos Gracie then taught Helio, however Carlos did not modify the techniques he was taught by Maeda, Helio on the other had modified what Carlos taught him. Helio taught Carlos son Rolls and Rolls added wrestling to the system. Hence other students began to add things like the "Half Guard" and the list goes on. My original premise was that the technique was a Gracie modified technique. There was no reason for it to get to this!
vincespell 3 years ago
Can't have a decent discussion without some idiot wanting to start calling other folks ignorant or other names! This is a discussion and video podium. I know it's free speech but damm we just talking Jiu-jitsu and sambo. I didn't create either system and neither did you two, so why are you two ladies taking this so personal. Are you two wearing gi's or tampons?.....I'm done with the Jiu-Jitsu vs Sambo, Japanese Jiu-jitsu vs Gracie.
vincespell 3 years ago
Oh yeah and for this Bitch Samozaschita calling me out. I never get upset with internet warriors! You can talk all the bullshit you want, I'm not on here to call names but I will say this anytime you or your boy Kombat Sambo want to show me how good your techniques are I don't have a problem with that. If it's feasible I'll meet both of you on the same day and we can have a little demonstration on who knows what and how good they know it, other than that fuck both of you sensitive bitches!
vincespell 3 years ago
I'm not sure this got out of hand but I'm merely stating that the Carlos Gracie was taught Jiu-Jitsu, he then taught Helio Jiu-Jitsu. The Jiu-Jitsu that Helio then modified it by adding techniques and other movements, Rolls Gracie added wrestling and throught the years others have modified it by adding techniques. So I don't know what the arguement is about Helio Gracie was taught Japanese Jiu-Jitsu in it's purest form and then modified it by adding techniques. How much different can it be!
vincespell 3 years ago
its ok to be wrong.
myhatismayor 2 years ago
kombatSambo is right, Maeda brought Judo to Brazil, not jiu-jitsu. Helio focused on newaza (ground-fighting) Judo just because of his physical conditions, he was rather skinny and weak so this allowed him to 'submit' bigger and stronger guys, and that's how BJJ born
megasuperlexa 3 years ago
Maeda was a Judo student of Jigoro but the Gracies stated and it has always been stated that they were taught Jiu-Jitsu. Carlos Gracie stated he was taught Jiu-Jitsu and Helio states he was taught Jiu-Jitsu and Judo origins are from Jiu-Jitsu. Maeda sensi was Jigoro and although Jigoro create Judo he was a sensi of Jiu-Jitsu first and his Judo came form his Jiu-Jitsu. I don't know what Carlos was really taught but he and history says it was Jiu-Jitsu...I didn't make that up!
vincespell 3 years ago
Jigoro Kano was trained in Jiu-Jitsu and that's what he originally taught, in fact if Maeda was one of Jigoro's original students he learned Jiu-Jitsu first and then was taught Judo. The history of Jigoro Kano tells you this that his students transitioned over to the new system after being students of Jiu-Jitsu!
vincespell 3 years ago
Again misinformed you are-
WIKIPEDIA-
Upon arriving in the Kodokan, Maeda, who was 164cm tall and weighted 64kg, was confused with a delivery boy due to his country manners and demeanor. Judo's founder Kano Jigoro spotted the boy, and promptly assigned him to Tsunejiro Tomita (4th dan),
kombatSambo 3 years ago
WIKIPEDIA-
"Mitsuyo Maeda formed with Soishiro Satake the head of the second generation of Kodokan judoka which replaced the first by the beginning of the 20th century"
He was not the 1st of Kano's student but second generation. Tsunejiro Tomita was from the 1st. He was already 4th Dan when Maeda was a boy at KODOKAN!
kombatSambo 3 years ago
Oh just in case you missed it- here it is again- GJJ IS NOT JAPANESE JIUJITSU.
Mitsuyo Maeda (Helio teacher) is JIGARO KANO student. HE NEVER learned JIUJITSU.
Therefore your whole BULLSHIT premise that this is a GJJ tech. and using Japanese JJ as evidence, is about as solid as shit.
Maybe you should try the POPULARITY point again.
kombatSambo 3 years ago
You don't even know what the fuck your arguing about where the fuck do you think Gracie Jiu-Jitsu came from. the word Jiu-Jitsu is Japanese you fucking moron! an Arm bar is a fucking armbar no matter how you go about getting it! The format of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu and the fucking leg it stands on is from the techniques of Jiu-Jitsu which again is Japanese! What is your fucking argument here! Hell the creator of Sambo was a student of Jigoro Kano argue that you fuck'en Moron. You don't know shit!
vincespell 3 years ago
Japnese JJ has many aspects GJJ doesn't namely -
Atemi Waza (striking)
Kata (forms)
Nagewaza (throwing)
Not to mention many schools of Japanese JJ perform Kensetsuwaza (joint locking) while maintaining a position of advantage (standing up) -much like kungfu (chin-na). Unlike GJJ that takes the ground (guard)position.
You need to do some research into the martial arts and stop being a "tool" for the Gracies.
kombatSambo 3 years ago
I knew you gonna say that. GJJ IS NOT Traditional JJ. Helio/Carlos did NOT LEARN Japnese JiuJitsu. They learned JUDO. Maeda was Kano's student. Check your facts. Japanese Jiujitsu does NOT look anything like GJJ. GJJ doens't even look like JUDO! GJJ is just a part of JUDO the newaza(groundfighting) part. Most other aspects of Kano's Judo have been discarded by GJJ.
kombatSambo 3 years ago 2
You can talk all the cute little girly talk you want and try to prove me wrong, go ask an adult and show him my platform. Gracie Jiu-Jitsu is basically Japanese Jiu-Jitsu and Judo. They can't be brothers if Jiu-Jitsu is the front runner from which GJJ was born. How can they be half brothers if one was born from the other Gracie Jiu-Jitsu was born from Japanese Jiu-Jisu so how can they be brothers! After hearing that I see I can no longer waste time talking to you. Half Brothers that's was funny!
vincespell 3 years ago
So, STOP using Japnese JJ as a "CRUCTCH" for your point, that this is a GJJ technique.
We ALL know Sambo comes in part from Judo same as GJJ comes from Judo.
kombatSambo 3 years ago
Carlos Gracie was taught pure Japanese Jiu-Jitsu, he trained Helio in pure Japanese Jiu-Jitsu, Helio added somethings, Rolls added some wrestling but did the basic technique change? no it did not for example. The Rubber Guard by Eddie Bravo is a whole new set up to get to the basic fundementals of Jiu-Jitsu. Mission Control will take you to what? a armbar, triangle choke, omma plata.
There are modifications but the end results are the same, in the end( the submission) it's still Japanese!
vincespell 3 years ago
very true...sambo focuses more on takedowns and leg locks...ive added a little sambo techniques to my BJJ (i prefer BJJ rather than GJJ for the fact a lot of other people besides the gracies have contributed to it)
omar2000089 3 years ago
Oh did i forget to mention Traditonal JAPANESE JIUJITSU is NOT, I repeat NOT, GRACIE JIUJITSU.
kombatSambo 3 years ago
Hmm i can get people in arm bars but i cant manage to really get them to tap out. i dont if its my technique or if i misunderstood the real function of the armbar.
RaabBlog 3 years ago
slip them a five spot, it always works for me!
vincespell 3 years ago
Ah ok thanks ill try that.
RaabBlog 3 years ago
make sure their elbow is on ur waist, their thumb pointing away from u. they'll tap.
mmafighter12121988 3 years ago
extend ur hips out as u pull there wrist into ur chest. do it aplying pressure from moderate to extreem until the person taps. think about it like u would push ur hips when ur fucking a women but instead of a vagina its a elbow. lol
rracin66 3 years ago
Thanks for elaborating
RaabBlog 3 years ago
no problem
rracin66 3 years ago
what's the sambo terminology for half guard, full guard, sweep, side mount, mount, etc?
ramonamarth 3 years ago
In one paragraph you want to claim the techniques as GJJ- "gracie art is japaneese in nature with modifications made by the family gracie hence "Gracie Jiu-Jitsu" so the technique shown is more closely related to the Gracie technique"
Then in your next comment you say it is Japanese Jiujitsu.
Maybe, you should prove to me how this is GJJ technique- since that was the original comment. Stating the fact that Sambo, in part came from Judo, does not prove it is GJJ technique.
kombatSambo 3 years ago
I was talking about the techique being shown, not the arm bar itself. The technique being shown on how to counter when your opponent pulls his arm out and you counter with another arm bar that's what I was commenting on I took judo for a time and that counter never came up, so I was commenting on that technique when I said it was GJJ in nature.
As I stated the technique of the arm bar is modified, I first saw that counter about 9yrs ago at a seminar hosted by John Jacques Machado!
vincespell 3 years ago
I guess only GJJ can come up with modifications to an armbar...right? 9 yrs ago,...well, the basis of Sambo was being formed in the Soviet Union when Helio was still being spoon fed by his mommie. Claiming everything as GJJ again huh...?
I dunno what is with the combination of - internet + BJJ = elitist
kombatSambo 3 years ago
Hey I'm not bashing Sambo bro, even if Sambo did have that modification GJJ or BJJ has been very popular! Folks knew about Sambo but it was GJJ that has garnered much of the attention and in doing that many folks saw these techniques done for the first time via GJJ style. And it's more popular right now! the whole GJJ and BJJ thing! Fedor has brought attention to Sambo, even Rickson gave me some insight to the art in an interview, however Jiu-Jitsu and it's techniques have been around longer!
vincespell 3 years ago
There you go again, mixing GJJ and Japanese Jiujitsu as one. Japanese Jiujitsu has been around longer than both GJJ and Sambo- they are more like half brother arts. To use analogy- GJJ CANNOT claim any Sambo technique as theirs anymore than 2 half brothers can claim to be the father of the other one.
And was does POPULARITY have to do with the origins of a technique!? Your begining to sound like a teenager.
kombatSambo 3 years ago
Your not listening GJJ is Japanese Jiu-Jitsu except for some modifications, the techniques in GJJ or BJJ are Jiu-Jitsu and if they are Jiu-Jitsu then they are Japanese, Jiu-Jitsu is Japanese so GJJ and or BJJ can only be Japanese Jiu-Jitsu with some modifications, Helio didn't create the armbar, the triangle choke or the omma plata these techniques were part of Japanese Jiu-Jitsu. What the Gracies did was create a flowing ground game and that's it, sweeps and take downs are still Japanese origin
vincespell 3 years ago
Ok this should ease your mind: The word Cambo(Sambo) is an acronym of САМозащита Без Оружия (SAMozashchita Bez Oruzhiya) meaning "self-defense without weapons" in Russian. Sambo has its roots in Japanese judo and traditional folk styles of wrestling such as Armenian Koch, Georgian Chidaoba, Moldovan Trîntǎ, Uzbek Kurash, Mongolian Khapsagay and Azerbaijani Gulesh. Sambo has it's root from Japanese Judo....Now this is straight from Wikipedia....check it out yourself!
vincespell 3 years ago
Hey man this dude died because he refused to deny he learned Judo from Kano Jigoro! now that's some dedication to your art! He died standing up for his teacher and his education and love of his sport!...Apparently you don't know the history of Sambo, and your a little annoyed with the GJJ and BJJ thing but just like GJJ and BJJ Sambo is in the same boat it's origins are Japanese in origin. Do your history bro, hell Sambo even has American Catch in it. No Charge for the Education Kombat Sambo!
vincespell 3 years ago
Thxs for telling me something I already know. Thank god you didn't charge for that- otherwise I would have had to sue you.
Lets re-cap your argument:
1- You saw it first- nope, doesn't prove shit
2- GJJ can only modify armbar- irrational
3- It's Japnese Jiujitsu (much older than sambo)- So, Japanese JJ is NOT GJJ.
4- Hmm..what other point you made...? Oh-POPULARITY- ROFLMAO, get real dude.
In other words- all you said was blah, blah,...still doesn't prove this is GJJ tech.
kombatSambo 3 years ago
I'm not going to fuss anymore about this you have your traditional japanese jiu-jitsu from which gracie jiu-jitsu was born and then you have your competition jiu-jitsu which have various modifications and added techniques. My point was that Gracie Jiu-Jitsu was born from Japanese Jiu-Jitsu and for the most part the basic fundemental of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu still holds it's Japanese roots! but in the end who can say what, it is also believed that the Japanese learned this art from the Chinese. Done!
vincespell 3 years ago
vincespell- you are such a fuckin idiot! Gracie jiujistu comes form Judo. kombatsambo is right. You think just cause the Gracies puts the word jiujitsu in the back of their name it's same as Japanese Jiujitsu? wake up son!
BJJ = Basically Just Judo
SAMozashchita 3 years ago
Ok you moronic mother#@###@@@ Jigoro was trained in Jiu-Jitsu that was his art, he then modified the art and created Judo...Judo comes from Jiu-Jitsu....it's all relative unlike your brains and ability to know what your talking about you or Kombat don't know the history of your disciplines, your just on here talking about what you learned in the bathroom after practice. Jigoro Kano was a Jiu-Jitsu disciple who transform Jiu-Jitsu into a gentle form of called Judo. Judo comes from Jiu-Jitsu!
vincespell 3 years ago
The founders of Sambo were Vasili Oshchepkov (who died during the political purges of 1937 for refusing to deny his education in judo under its founder Kano Jigoro) and Viktor Spiridonov. They independently developed two different styles, both with the same name. Spirdonov's style was a soft, aikido-like system developed after he was maimed during the First World War.[1] Anatoly Kharlampiev, a student of Victor Spirdonov, is often officially recognized as the founder of Sport Sambo.
vincespell 3 years ago
Yes the techniques is Japanese. But did you think about what does that have to do with Kakabeblen comment when he says its GJJ? By your way of thinking he is just as wrong then- cause GJJ comes from Judo. Thereby making the technique not GJJ but Japanese Jiujitsu. Yet you want to say he is right when he says its GJJ. Unless in your mind GJJ and Judo/traditional Jiujitsu is one and the same. Does the term "double standard" come to mind?
kombatSambo 3 years ago
simple yet effective! i love it!
nuvus 3 years ago
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FUCK THIS This is no "SAMBO" shit, it's pure GRACIE JIU JITSU!
Kakabeblen 3 years ago
Contrary to your belief, GJJ/BJJ does not have a patent on ground techniques. Just cause some art does ground/grappling techniques it does not mean it came from BJJ.
kombatSambo 3 years ago
The armbar is a japaneese technique and gracie jiu-jitsu is derived from the japaneese art of jiu-jitsu, gracie art is japaneese in nature with modifications made by the family gracie hence "Gracie Jiu-Jitsu" so the technique shown is more closely related to the Gracie technique, it is not an original Sambo technique so Kakabelen is correct in his assesment of this particular technique! Although I may not have been so colorful in my lanquage. However Kakabeblen is correct in his stand on this!
vincespell 3 years ago
Thxs for the history lesson on the origins of GJJ. Unfortunately, for you the fact is, Sambo was formed in the former Soviet Union without the influence of Helio or anyone from Brazil. So stop trying to claim everything as BJJ/GJJ.
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