I don't agree with much Michelle Bachman has to say. However, I work in the medical field and there have been thousands of docmented cases of moderate to severe side effects from this drug. This s Big Pharma all day long, When you can buy off the FDA through lobbyists. there is no limit to what they can do.
Under no circumstances should you expose yourself or any loved one to this horrendously dangerous and untested "vaccine." And not just because it may or may not fend off 4 of the over 100 types of viruses that may or may not contribute to cervical cancer--the CDC and other health agencies have issued warnings against it. There have been too many deaths directly associated with this so-called vaccine. Don't forget the DES tragedy of the 1950s and 1960s.
@beaglenuts55 Aaaand yet another intellectually bankrupt idiot willing to lie in order to spread fear to push an agenda of dark-ages stupidity. HPV is a known cause for cervical cancer in women. HPV is incredibly common. It has no symptoms in men. Many men are carriers, none of them know they're carriers. If a woman catches it they have a dramatically increased risk of developing cervical cancer. This vaccine, as with all vaccines, save lives. In this case it's exclusively women being saved.
@pyrespirit I'll be happy to compare my Ph.D.s & 30 years of research experience w/ yours anytime.Don't have any?That accounts for your pitifully naive & self-embarassing comment.I do own stock in the company so by all means, inject yourself & all for whom you care as much as possible But first read reports from VAERS, VSD, & the CISA. Network. Also speak with one of the 50+ families who have lost children as a direct result of this "vaccine." Stop ranting irresponsibly-you're not helping anyone
@beaglenuts55 Bwahahah. Yes, I'm sure your self-acclaimed 'Professorship' of political science and anthropology gives you a deep understanding of chemistry, biology, medicine, diagnostic criteria, pharmaceutical research and epidemiology. EVEN IF you have the degrees you claim to, that still does not make you anything more than a layperson in the field being discussed here. What is with the lunatic fringe believing that knowledge in one field automagically translates to knowledge in another?
@pyrespirit Thank you for checking my YouTube page.That is, however, not a complete list of credientials, as you should know, for privacy and confidentiality purposes. And because you are so dismissive of Black professors, credentialed reseachers in the field of specified viral research, & completely insensitive to families who have lost children to this so-called "vaccine," I would be interested in your credentials for endorsing & encouraging individuals to roll the dice w/ their lives.
@beaglenuts55 Nowhere have I ever been dismissive of 'black' professors. Way to straw man the crap out of that *applause*; Are you also a Ph.D. of dishonest argumentation? And there have been no families who've lost anybody to that vaccine in particular, and the loss statistics of any vaccine, while tragic, are astronomically less than the losses due to non-vaccination (and are wholly connected to the particular disease, and not the pseudoscientific nonsense of 'autism ate my baby!')
@beaglenuts55 pyrespirit hasn't backed up any of his claims with a single scientific study or any statistical data whatsoever. He for lack of a better word is simply a shill for pharma. Everything he has said has been sales pitches, and false claims that are commonly used by sales reps, and "expert" doctors that take bribes from pharma to appear in the media and repeat the same sales pitches. None of it is backed up by any science.
@pryorka82 Bwahah. Someone doesn't understand the rules for evidence, apparently. When you have every respected organization agreeing on something, it's the responsibility of the people making the extraordinary claim to provide proof, not the responsibility of people to 'prove their claim wrong.' The only 'evidence' provided here has all been invalidated many times over. But still; straw man like a champion! It's the only thing you have left to do when you have no argument.
@pryorka82 Bwahah. Someone doesn't understand the rules for evidence, apparently. When you have every respected organization agreeing on something, it's the responsibility of the people making the extraordinary claim to provide proof, not the responsibility of people to 'prove their claim wrong.' The only 'evidence' provided here has all been invalidated many times over. But still; straw man like a champion! It's the only thing you have left to do when you have no argument.
@pryorka82 You claim people are 'taking bribes,' when the only people who've been caught taking money for anything are the people who've been trying to claim vaccinations are bad. (Wakefield, for example, was stricken from the registry of doctors for, among other things, being on the payroll of lawyers who wanted to bring suits against vaccine producers. That and falsifying evidence.) Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof; you've provided none whatsoever. Your claims are unconvincing
@pryorka82 You're absolutely right. I wasn't sure if this was just another low-literacy person or a salesman, or both.Notice the generic terms for "evidence" without any reference to standard error, populations, control or experimental groups. Also the generic claims for "..every respected organization" wi/ no specific references.It is sad, but as I told him/her/it, I do own stock in that pharm. company so he/she/it should feel free to inject themself or their loved ones all they want.
It's about time they're doing something. I almost died because of the god damn thing. I'm not suffering from mental retardation but it ruined my entire life and I lost my change at becoming an elite figure skater.
@cupcakeskate88 wow your story needs to be told. they are doing a documentary on people affected you should tell it. sad how reactions are ignored and doctors won't report with proper paper work unless you force them or do it your self. even the government admits that only 10 percent reaction get reported. I suspect it is less percent that gets reported.
@KonaSilat Nobody in the government ever lies. Top Government Vaccine Researcher, Dr. Poul Thorsen, Indicted For Fraud... charged with embezzling a $1 million grant for autism from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC). but FDA or CDC never pulled his research nor was it publicized by the media. Look it up or are you going to wait for the CDC or FDA to make it more digestible for you. I bet you have never read all of a vaccine drug insert ever. FDA stands for federal death administration.
Michelle is onto it and spot on with what she is saying! The Gardasil vaccine is a biological disaster in the unfolding. Check out the website truthaboutgardasil to find out more.
As far as I am concerned, the whole vaccine industry is an organised criminal enterprise dressed up as disease prevention.
@vaccinationisafraud You're an idiot. Every time the debate has come up, it has been demonstrated that all claims that vaccines cause harm in any way beyond the standard risk involved with exposure to a weakened form of the disease in question are completely and unequivocally fabricated by people trying to prey on the fears of the stupid.
@pyrespirit Yeah the word of a pharma salesman is always the word of God and science has no meaning. So sure the obvious thing to do is believe whatever a salesman tells you. Don't bother reading any science of medical studies for yourself. The media will tell you the truth, just push it out of your mind the fact that their number 1 revenue source is pharma.
@midtra52 I've found those blindly supporting vaccines have never read a single medical study. They never reference actual scientific information, but instead simply do as you're saying, just repeat sales pitches and claims their doctors read off sales pamphlets. It's far to easy for pharma to fool people. You would think people would do their due diligence and check things out a bit more before putting things into their bodies.
@pryorka82 Yet more stupidity. There is no credible or reputable scientific study which has found any link between vaccination and any of the host of illnesses people have tried to blame on it. There was one by a fellow named Wakefield - who as it turned out was on the payroll of lawyers who wanted to push through civil suits for damages, and who, as it turned out, completely fabricated the entirety of his supposed evidence. He was struck from the registry of doctors for a reason.
@pyrespirit I don't know anything about Wakefield but there are plenty of studies showing autism is caused by vaccines. It seems you're in the same boat as many others. Make a claim, ignore all evidence and science contrary to your claim, and simply keep on repeating your claim. Why not read some actual medical studies? It's pretty simple. Here's a study as far back as 1976 Eggers, C, "Autistic Syndrome (Kanner) and Vaccinations against Smallpox", Klin Paediatr, Mar 1976, 188(2):172-180.
@pryorka82 No, there aren't. There is no reputable study which demonstrates a link between vaccination and autism. Not one. WIth regards to the ones you linked, the only place I can find them is in sites dedicated to promoting anti-vaccination. What journals picked those studies up? How many re-tests have they undergone? They're ancient - from the late 70s, why are you not linking something more recent? One thirty year old article published obscurely is not 'plenty of studies.'
@pyrespirit Here's more, try reading them, it won't hurt. Nicoll A, Elliman D, Ross E, "MMR vaccination and autism 1998," MJ 1998 Mar 7;316(7133):715-716. Lindley K J, Milla PJ, "Autism, inflammatory bowel disease, and MMR vaccine."Lancet 1998 Mar 21;351(9106):907-908. Gupta, S. "Immunology and immunologic treatment of autism." Proceedings of the National Autism Association, Chicago 1996: 455-460. And then check the statistic from vaccinationcounsel dot o r g
@pryorka82 Ahh yet more dross. First off, Gupta's article is disqualified due to him not being trained in the field he's writing in. He's trained as a neurosurgeon (and is a professional peddler of psuedoscience), not a psychologist or behaviourist. The Lancet paper was rescinded for bad science. The article by Nicoll, Elliman and Ross was disproven.
So basically, you went to wikipedia, or one of the sites that spews anti-vaccination rhetoric, picked out a few links, and didn't bother to follow up the evidence at all; and are counting on nobody else following the evidence, either. Vaccination is the single biggest medical breakthrough in terms of gross number of lives saved. Vaccination is why you're healthy, and why certain terrible illnesses are all but eliminated (except thanks to the retarded like yourself, there's a resurgence of some)
@pyrespirit Dude..none of that is on wikipedia. You think pharma would let anything like that show up on wikipedia? Didn't bother to follow up evidence?? What the?? I mean what more do you want. People have shown you medicine studies, statistics, actual evidence and real world proof, but you choose to ignore it? All you've done on the other hand is make unfounded claims and repeat sales pitches. You, unlike me have not backed up anything you've said with any proof.
@pryorka82 Epic facepalm time for you. Wikipedia is not a primary source - it is, at very best, a place to get some idea of where to look on a subject. It has no bearing at all on any data or arguments at all. People have shown 'studies, statistics and actual evidence' which is one or more of the following; outdated, wrong, or pure fabrication. You've not backed up anything; you've provided BAD evidence.(And the burden of proof is on you; you're making the claim, you need to demonstrate proof)
@pryorka82 It's nobody's responsibility to 'prove you wrong, otherwise you're correct.' It is your responsibility to prove you're correct - a responsibility you've failed to live up to. (And wrt the wikipedia comment - hyperbole which was unnecessary, I'll grant you; it's the ridiculous sites which spew baseless anti-vaccination rhetoric and cause people, such as yourself, to act like tards and allow recurrences of diseases which the industrial world all but wiped out prior to your idiocy)
@midtra52 ... Wow so much stupidity. The reason why there is no credible evidence for the ridiculous anti-vaccination claims is not due to vast conspiracies - it's due to no evidence existing. The only people who've claimed to have it have later been proven frauds and liars - and struck from the registry of doctors. Meanwhile we have people dying of illnesses they should not get due to effect of herd immunity being compromised by idiots like yourself.
I don't agree with much Michelle Bachman has to say. However, I work in the medical field and there have been thousands of docmented cases of moderate to severe side effects from this drug. This s Big Pharma all day long, When you can buy off the FDA through lobbyists. there is no limit to what they can do.
gibder1117 1 month ago
MOM: This Drug made my Daughter retarded
MICHELLE: Mom?
SmoothCriminalAaron 2 months ago
@SmoothCriminalAaron Nice one, What made Michelle retarded was getting blind sided by a Bible to the side of her nappy head all of her life.
gibder1117 1 month ago
Under no circumstances should you expose yourself or any loved one to this horrendously dangerous and untested "vaccine." And not just because it may or may not fend off 4 of the over 100 types of viruses that may or may not contribute to cervical cancer--the CDC and other health agencies have issued warnings against it. There have been too many deaths directly associated with this so-called vaccine. Don't forget the DES tragedy of the 1950s and 1960s.
beaglenuts55 5 months ago 2
@beaglenuts55 Aaaand yet another intellectually bankrupt idiot willing to lie in order to spread fear to push an agenda of dark-ages stupidity. HPV is a known cause for cervical cancer in women. HPV is incredibly common. It has no symptoms in men. Many men are carriers, none of them know they're carriers. If a woman catches it they have a dramatically increased risk of developing cervical cancer. This vaccine, as with all vaccines, save lives. In this case it's exclusively women being saved.
pyrespirit 5 months ago
@pyrespirit I'll be happy to compare my Ph.D.s & 30 years of research experience w/ yours anytime.Don't have any?That accounts for your pitifully naive & self-embarassing comment.I do own stock in the company so by all means, inject yourself & all for whom you care as much as possible But first read reports from VAERS, VSD, & the CISA. Network. Also speak with one of the 50+ families who have lost children as a direct result of this "vaccine." Stop ranting irresponsibly-you're not helping anyone
beaglenuts55 5 months ago 4
@beaglenuts55 Bwahahah. Yes, I'm sure your self-acclaimed 'Professorship' of political science and anthropology gives you a deep understanding of chemistry, biology, medicine, diagnostic criteria, pharmaceutical research and epidemiology. EVEN IF you have the degrees you claim to, that still does not make you anything more than a layperson in the field being discussed here. What is with the lunatic fringe believing that knowledge in one field automagically translates to knowledge in another?
pyrespirit 5 months ago
@pyrespirit Thank you for checking my YouTube page.That is, however, not a complete list of credientials, as you should know, for privacy and confidentiality purposes. And because you are so dismissive of Black professors, credentialed reseachers in the field of specified viral research, & completely insensitive to families who have lost children to this so-called "vaccine," I would be interested in your credentials for endorsing & encouraging individuals to roll the dice w/ their lives.
beaglenuts55 5 months ago 2
@beaglenuts55 Nowhere have I ever been dismissive of 'black' professors. Way to straw man the crap out of that *applause*; Are you also a Ph.D. of dishonest argumentation? And there have been no families who've lost anybody to that vaccine in particular, and the loss statistics of any vaccine, while tragic, are astronomically less than the losses due to non-vaccination (and are wholly connected to the particular disease, and not the pseudoscientific nonsense of 'autism ate my baby!')
pyrespirit 5 months ago
@beaglenuts55 pyrespirit hasn't backed up any of his claims with a single scientific study or any statistical data whatsoever. He for lack of a better word is simply a shill for pharma. Everything he has said has been sales pitches, and false claims that are commonly used by sales reps, and "expert" doctors that take bribes from pharma to appear in the media and repeat the same sales pitches. None of it is backed up by any science.
pryorka82 5 months ago
@pryorka82 Bwahah. Someone doesn't understand the rules for evidence, apparently. When you have every respected organization agreeing on something, it's the responsibility of the people making the extraordinary claim to provide proof, not the responsibility of people to 'prove their claim wrong.' The only 'evidence' provided here has all been invalidated many times over. But still; straw man like a champion! It's the only thing you have left to do when you have no argument.
pyrespirit 5 months ago
@pryorka82 Bwahah. Someone doesn't understand the rules for evidence, apparently. When you have every respected organization agreeing on something, it's the responsibility of the people making the extraordinary claim to provide proof, not the responsibility of people to 'prove their claim wrong.' The only 'evidence' provided here has all been invalidated many times over. But still; straw man like a champion! It's the only thing you have left to do when you have no argument.
pyrespirit 5 months ago
@pryorka82 You claim people are 'taking bribes,' when the only people who've been caught taking money for anything are the people who've been trying to claim vaccinations are bad. (Wakefield, for example, was stricken from the registry of doctors for, among other things, being on the payroll of lawyers who wanted to bring suits against vaccine producers. That and falsifying evidence.) Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof; you've provided none whatsoever. Your claims are unconvincing
pyrespirit 5 months ago
@pryorka82 You're absolutely right. I wasn't sure if this was just another low-literacy person or a salesman, or both.Notice the generic terms for "evidence" without any reference to standard error, populations, control or experimental groups. Also the generic claims for "..every respected organization" wi/ no specific references.It is sad, but as I told him/her/it, I do own stock in that pharm. company so he/she/it should feel free to inject themself or their loved ones all they want.
beaglenuts55 5 months ago
It's about time they're doing something. I almost died because of the god damn thing. I'm not suffering from mental retardation but it ruined my entire life and I lost my change at becoming an elite figure skater.
cupcakeskate88 5 months ago 4
@cupcakeskate88 wow your story needs to be told. they are doing a documentary on people affected you should tell it. sad how reactions are ignored and doctors won't report with proper paper work unless you force them or do it your self. even the government admits that only 10 percent reaction get reported. I suspect it is less percent that gets reported.
gypzyluver 5 months ago
@KonaSilat Nobody in the government ever lies. Top Government Vaccine Researcher, Dr. Poul Thorsen, Indicted For Fraud... charged with embezzling a $1 million grant for autism from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC). but FDA or CDC never pulled his research nor was it publicized by the media. Look it up or are you going to wait for the CDC or FDA to make it more digestible for you. I bet you have never read all of a vaccine drug insert ever. FDA stands for federal death administration.
gypzyluver 5 months ago
Michelle is onto it and spot on with what she is saying! The Gardasil vaccine is a biological disaster in the unfolding. Check out the website truthaboutgardasil to find out more.
As far as I am concerned, the whole vaccine industry is an organised criminal enterprise dressed up as disease prevention.
vaccinationisafraud 5 months ago
@vaccinationisafraud You're an idiot. Every time the debate has come up, it has been demonstrated that all claims that vaccines cause harm in any way beyond the standard risk involved with exposure to a weakened form of the disease in question are completely and unequivocally fabricated by people trying to prey on the fears of the stupid.
pyrespirit 5 months ago
@pyrespirit Yeah the word of a pharma salesman is always the word of God and science has no meaning. So sure the obvious thing to do is believe whatever a salesman tells you. Don't bother reading any science of medical studies for yourself. The media will tell you the truth, just push it out of your mind the fact that their number 1 revenue source is pharma.
midtra52 5 months ago
@midtra52 I've found those blindly supporting vaccines have never read a single medical study. They never reference actual scientific information, but instead simply do as you're saying, just repeat sales pitches and claims their doctors read off sales pamphlets. It's far to easy for pharma to fool people. You would think people would do their due diligence and check things out a bit more before putting things into their bodies.
pryorka82 5 months ago 3
@pryorka82 Yet more stupidity. There is no credible or reputable scientific study which has found any link between vaccination and any of the host of illnesses people have tried to blame on it. There was one by a fellow named Wakefield - who as it turned out was on the payroll of lawyers who wanted to push through civil suits for damages, and who, as it turned out, completely fabricated the entirety of his supposed evidence. He was struck from the registry of doctors for a reason.
pyrespirit 5 months ago
@pyrespirit I don't know anything about Wakefield but there are plenty of studies showing autism is caused by vaccines. It seems you're in the same boat as many others. Make a claim, ignore all evidence and science contrary to your claim, and simply keep on repeating your claim. Why not read some actual medical studies? It's pretty simple. Here's a study as far back as 1976 Eggers, C, "Autistic Syndrome (Kanner) and Vaccinations against Smallpox", Klin Paediatr, Mar 1976, 188(2):172-180.
pryorka82 5 months ago
@pryorka82 No, there aren't. There is no reputable study which demonstrates a link between vaccination and autism. Not one. WIth regards to the ones you linked, the only place I can find them is in sites dedicated to promoting anti-vaccination. What journals picked those studies up? How many re-tests have they undergone? They're ancient - from the late 70s, why are you not linking something more recent? One thirty year old article published obscurely is not 'plenty of studies.'
pyrespirit 5 months ago
@pyrespirit Here's more, try reading them, it won't hurt. Nicoll A, Elliman D, Ross E, "MMR vaccination and autism 1998," MJ 1998 Mar 7;316(7133):715-716. Lindley K J, Milla PJ, "Autism, inflammatory bowel disease, and MMR vaccine."Lancet 1998 Mar 21;351(9106):907-908. Gupta, S. "Immunology and immunologic treatment of autism." Proceedings of the National Autism Association, Chicago 1996: 455-460. And then check the statistic from vaccinationcounsel dot o r g
pryorka82 5 months ago
@pryorka82 Ahh yet more dross. First off, Gupta's article is disqualified due to him not being trained in the field he's writing in. He's trained as a neurosurgeon (and is a professional peddler of psuedoscience), not a psychologist or behaviourist. The Lancet paper was rescinded for bad science. The article by Nicoll, Elliman and Ross was disproven.
pyrespirit 5 months ago
So basically, you went to wikipedia, or one of the sites that spews anti-vaccination rhetoric, picked out a few links, and didn't bother to follow up the evidence at all; and are counting on nobody else following the evidence, either. Vaccination is the single biggest medical breakthrough in terms of gross number of lives saved. Vaccination is why you're healthy, and why certain terrible illnesses are all but eliminated (except thanks to the retarded like yourself, there's a resurgence of some)
pyrespirit 5 months ago
@pyrespirit Dude..none of that is on wikipedia. You think pharma would let anything like that show up on wikipedia? Didn't bother to follow up evidence?? What the?? I mean what more do you want. People have shown you medicine studies, statistics, actual evidence and real world proof, but you choose to ignore it? All you've done on the other hand is make unfounded claims and repeat sales pitches. You, unlike me have not backed up anything you've said with any proof.
pryorka82 5 months ago
@pryorka82 Epic facepalm time for you. Wikipedia is not a primary source - it is, at very best, a place to get some idea of where to look on a subject. It has no bearing at all on any data or arguments at all. People have shown 'studies, statistics and actual evidence' which is one or more of the following; outdated, wrong, or pure fabrication. You've not backed up anything; you've provided BAD evidence.(And the burden of proof is on you; you're making the claim, you need to demonstrate proof)
pyrespirit 5 months ago
@pryorka82 It's nobody's responsibility to 'prove you wrong, otherwise you're correct.' It is your responsibility to prove you're correct - a responsibility you've failed to live up to. (And wrt the wikipedia comment - hyperbole which was unnecessary, I'll grant you; it's the ridiculous sites which spew baseless anti-vaccination rhetoric and cause people, such as yourself, to act like tards and allow recurrences of diseases which the industrial world all but wiped out prior to your idiocy)
pyrespirit 5 months ago
@midtra52 ... Wow so much stupidity. The reason why there is no credible evidence for the ridiculous anti-vaccination claims is not due to vast conspiracies - it's due to no evidence existing. The only people who've claimed to have it have later been proven frauds and liars - and struck from the registry of doctors. Meanwhile we have people dying of illnesses they should not get due to effect of herd immunity being compromised by idiots like yourself.
pyrespirit 5 months ago
@vaccinationisafraud lol spot on, Idiot
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@vaccinationisafraud lol spot on, Idiot
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@vaccinationisafraud lol spot on, Idiot
Shane444888 5 months ago
@vaccinationisafraud spot on? lol dumbass
Shane444888 5 months ago
@vaccinationisafraud You name should be VaccinationAREafraud.
FacetiousJeremy 5 months ago
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Read more about the adverse events after the HPV vaccines on the victims page of sanevax.org
SaneVax 5 months ago