@beatrizsmdr The Carnegie Hall concert in its entirety is on YT (two uploads on two different accounts) - If you can't find them pls let me know (both are in my faves) :-))
Martha talks about the "incredible violence he has inside" in some old interview - which I think is so true and distinctive of Horowitz and is on full display in this performance.
@ajguy8 get a lawyer and sue your teacher, just joking. I was taught to play Chopin with my fingers flat like his; only on fast notes and trills can you curve your fingers
@PrincessDesert Yeah, it's easier with flatter fingers. You can use the weight of your finger as the main leverage to strike the key, as opposed to strictly relying on the muscles for leverage. It's like floating.
it's amazing that someone his age can even give a concert of this magnitude, I don't think these people realize what an amazing feat that is! Ever tried to play or simply speak in front even a small group of people? What he is going right now, given the age he is, it's an accomplishment that's almost supernatural!
i wonder, im 14 and im thinking of playing the piano, does anyone in this blog reckon if i start playing the piano now, with proper trainign,i i can be able to do this piece hen im 32, or atleast to the point of being kind to the ears
@wazfrmoz I started playing at age 9 (20 now) with a bad bad teacher, (typical middle school teacher), so I practiced every now and then, I can play some chopin nocturnes, some debussy, etc. But I should be playing this kind of pieces right know, long story short: if u are really dedicated to playing piano, you will enroll into a conservatory, play for joy not worrying about the age or "how long will it take", and in 4 to 6 years you will play this. Not like me that I am wasting time in youtube.
Yeah, agreed. I realize I've developed a lot of bad habits...none of which my teachers ever fixed (or noticed?). It makes me sad knowing I've played for so long and can barely pull off a two-part invention by Bach :(
@spartan1081990 Keep trying. Same idea as you, and at a given moment I had loads of free time, and for a change I used it for playing the piano. I suddenly started playing Liszt - even making a shot at Mazeppa now.
the part from :45 where he dramitcally quits the the sound the where he gracfully reincorporates the melody is my inspiration on interpritations love it
You know, it was 4 years ago when I first heard this recording of Horowitz. It this video that solidified my desire to do music for the rest of my life, and it was this video that led me to understand what music is. God Bless you sir for posting this video on youtube, it changed my life
"I really wish I could watch an awesome video of a great pianist without having to read people criticizing them. Like, really, if you don't like it don't watch." Well don't read the comments, just watch video. Stupid people are everywhere, I recommend you just learn to ignore them.
@paganinilovedkebab Yeah... it sounds so different than the CD version that I initially thought it was a different performance, but nope, I played both simultaneously and it's indeed the same! :s
Horowitz is the guy that grabs such a lyrical piece, and manages to enjoy it, while most pianists sweat with the eleventh jumps, and repeated chords. And, his version doesn't sound dissonant...
This video captures a transcendent moment in the history of piano performance. The interpretation is so powerful, so miraculous, so breathtaking. Every time I listen to it, I feel less alone in the world.
What really surprises me is how low he is sitting and how high his wrists are - I really can't play like this - yet, he plays with no effort. It's like he would be practicing scales, not playing such a difficult pieces like this.
@arthurmendonga Absolutely right, couldn't agree with you more, those people need to learn to shut up :-)
Worse this is Horowitz being criticized, this is one of the best piano performances ever, and the "critiques" are less than coherent, too many alcoholics commenting on YT :-)
Yes, agreed :-) This performance is from his Moscow concert, probably the single highest achievement in performing, creating music, by any pianist. There is another clip of him from that concert playing this etude and another Scriabin etude on YT, it's titled "Vladimir Horowitz - Scriabin - Etiudes", that vid is surreal :-))
@keetner Yes, this is the 1986 Moscow Concert. There is more than one vid on YT of this identical performance from that same concert (sound quality could be different). Not sure, but probably there are other YT vids of Horowitz playing Scriabin 8/12 when he was younger. He did play and record Scriabin a lot.
@Bret6464 I think you'll find a few of the critics are actually internationally renowned musicians funnily enough! Horowitz isn't at all loved by the other concert pianists of today, on the whole.
@wagneristhebest Yes :-)) Horowitz was an extraordinary artist, he "created" as he performed. Those "renowned musicians" of today play with ZERO musicality or expression, 100% Neuhaus - play strictly to the notes - do not alter tempo and dynamics markings, and they perform with zero individual interpretation. I find most of the current pianists' boring and flat, with a few exceptions: Martha Argerich, Jung Lin, Bronfman's Rach 3 :-))
@Bret6464 by desiring individual interpretation and encouraging experimentation are you admitting a clear link between classical musical tradition and american jazz musical tradition? (they're the same shit, different year, so i've been a little easily riled at people trying to act like the older form is by default unique and superior)
@godfreyhowatchin To clarify and only talking classical piano. There are many pianists who were/are extraordinary technicians. Some play notes, as written, do not deviate from proscribed tempo and dynamics or in fact "interpret". Others do interpret and express what is "inside" - what has been called surreal artistry, expression and musicianship. IMO Horowitz was one of those artists, also Rach, Gilels, Moiseiwitsch, Richter, Weissenberg, Argerich, Jung Lin, Bronfman :-))
@Bret6464 i'm not trying to be argumentative, because if you find most current pianists boring and flat i invite and highly encourage you to go listen to some Ahmad Jamal and sit back relaxing and enjoying yourself
@arthurmendonga But your opinion is just as invalid. That's the problem when you have shit talkers and they need the mickey taken out of them, it's completely impossible to not contradict yourself. By the way I'm with you 100% arthurmendonga, I see all these asses ripping apart some of the greatest pianists/composers and it's beyond mind boggling. But the respect that WE bring to the table never goes unnoticed my friend. It's just hard to see such dribble aimed at such magnificence. Cheers bud!
@arthurmendonga uh, by your own argument, if you don't like the comments don't read them. "Your damn opinion doesn't really matter". Right back at you.
You know, I could say the exact same thing about you. If you don't enjoy seeing such comments, don't read them. Your damn opinion doesn't really matter, right? :P
I would also like to point something else out: how will you know if you enjoy something without having watched it? It's like telling someone to not go near the water if they don't know how to swim.
@arthurmendonga There is a Extension for Chrome (web browser) that disables comments. Obviously comments are pure noise and mostly crap. I'm using opera, that's why I don't have it right now :(
I don't get it. There's no energy here, no drama, no nothing. Horowitz is one of the greatest pianists, no doubt, but this is a massacre to me. He clearly looks like he's bored. Kissin's version is way better, though not usually comparable to Horowitz with other composers!
@Frederikamusic You said he "looks" "like" he's "bored". This is wrong in so many ways I don't even know how to address this. This comment is, simply put, inane.
@Ibucrthis why do you say that? Look, it's not because it's the great master Horowitz that we can't disagree on the way he approaches this piece. Personnally, I think starting by a piano instead of a forte is a mistake, simply because it weakens the affects it produces from the start. This piece is meant to be an explosion, it's like fireworks, or a canonball. The first minute sounds awful to me! It really missed the EXPLOSION that we hear in Kissin's and Berezovsky's version.
@Frederikamusic Well, I'm not going to kill myself trying to change your mind. If you like Kissin(!) so much, then fine. I happen to like the guy's playing a lot as well. But for all I know, this Etude is meant to be a gradual crescendo, what with its progression from p to f (oscillating between the two anyway) to ff to fff. Not sure too if a piece marked 'Patetico' is meant to start as fireworks XD But hey, in the end, I'm glad you like this piece (one of my favorites). even if not this version
@Bret6464 I'm sorry, but how can you say who "misplays" Scriabin ? What does that mean in the end ? I hear so many people saying Glenn Gould misplays Bach, some other saying he's the best interpreter. Where is the truth ?
The thing is, when I listen to this video, carefully, focused, I'm thinking : he's not into it. You might all think I'm wrong, I couldn't care less about it.
And I find it shocking that you say Berezovsky and Kissin misplay Scriabin. There's not one and only way to play it
@Bret6464 And also, I don't like the fact that just because Horowitz is playing you must get down to your knees. You would have heard Kissin's version and read it was Horowitz', you would have said it's a much better version than this one.
@Frederikamusic Even someone who has never listened to classical piano music can tell the difference for Horowitz playing Scriabin 8/2, indeed any Scriabin piece (and Rach/Chopin) compared to Kissin or Berezofky.
This performance by Horowitz is from his Moscow Concert when he was in his 80's, and this is one of the greatest ever recorded back to the 1920s.
Nobody out there will confuse Horowitz with Kissin/Berezofsky/etc....or vice-versa :-)
@Bret6464 1. There's a pretty large chance that I know more about what you call classical music than you. So you don't need to teach me where this performance is from and who was Horowitz.
2. You should learn how to spell "Berezovsky".
3. Nobody out there ? Well, that's your problem. :-) That's certainly why you're just one more person "out there". the difference between you and me, dear Bret, it's that I don't judge a piece by the number of people who approved it before me.
@Frederikamusic Yeah, I'm inclined to the more intense recordings, but his more passive interpretation is quite a different point of view, perhaps a more elderly take than Kissin's youthful vigor.
One of the very few instances I actually like his playing. I also agree that the gentle start makes it a unique interpretation of this warhorse etude. I could do without the banging from about 1:35 on though...
An interesting document. Horowitz evokes a more reserved, almost gentle approach to the opening section than most pianists, who begin trashing about from the beginning. The middle, or 'B' section, has an almost wistful, ethereal atmosphere before Horowitz unleashes his volcanic power. Most interesting is how Horowitz re-writes the final section, introducing his own right-hand triplets against a revised left-hand back-and-forth octave leaping, contrary to the written score. Very effective.
this song was made on the edge of the romantic era..and was scriabin was becoming a crazy dude...but still you can feel the russian spirit coming out of this song...awsome job horowitz !
I think the last studio recording he did of this piece is in very similar vein. It is like this but without the mistakes. Pity I can't find it on youtube anymore.
Ye Gods! Who's the fantastic looking woman, centre screen, briefly glumpse during applause? I'd learn to play this myself if i could have her in the front row......
The dynamics are so perfect, at a moment he is playing on fortissimo then drops subito to piano and retains the same emotion so ellegantly. 0:44-0:49.
So he messes it up from 1.48 on? Wow! What a statement - could you point out exactly where he messes it up? I would love to be able to mess it up like that at any age. As for following the score - this is Horowitz. He was not bound by scores like other pianists. I bought a cds collectionb the other day with KISSIN/Horowitz/Rubinstein/Jean-Marc Luisada. All playing Chopin. Looking at the bigegr musical picture - Horowitz and Rubinstein come out best.
@kwongin - hey, no need to throw a hissy fit. It is just my opinion. I just said i like Horowitz. Hes awesome.Just tell me then: so the composer puts all that dinamics and other orientations fo nothing? Whats the point? Once again: i understand, interpretation is personal and like you said: "not bound by scores". I just think that is important to be faithfull to the composer. Nevertheless, Horowitz IS great. This still beautiful.
@DolfLoneWolf Aye - I get it - I know what you are saying, I think maybe it's the way how this YOUTUBE message board makes it easy to take things out of context. You and I-we both like Horowitz. Fine! So now we are on the same page and things are in context I think I should explain why I had a'hissy fit'. YOU sort of used two words, 'MESS' and 'EVEYTHING' in the same sentence which doesn't exactly scream 'I AM A FAN of HOROWITZ' So theres's my explanation.
@DolfLoneWolfAnd as for the way to play it - who really knows. Did Horowitz ever hear Scriabin play it?That's a question best answered by the musical historicans. I suppose it's possible. As for the 8/12 Score. Where is the justification for or against using dynamics? Kissin plays in really loud most of the way through-some folk like that. As far as I can see from the score thereis very little to go by. "Patetico' and a few clues for volume and speed. Horowitz could always read between the lines
@kwongin - Ok, poor choice of words. I should not have said " mess everything". Who am i to say how horowitz should play, right? Lets just enjoy this music.
He is great, sure. Interpretation is very personal. But come on! From 1:48 on he mess it up everything. Plus the score is clear : fortissimo the etire piece. Except for the mid section.
@kwongin no one comes close? Kissin does! his is better, way better, better than anyones, including Horowitz, theres more intensity and emotion in it. and plus Horowitz sounds sloppy at the end
@Tader321 I beg to differ. Kissing plays FFFFF throughout the whole piece. YES this is a fiery piece. YES this is supposed to be a loud piece. YES it should be intense. BUT, there also should be a calming and soothing hint of romanticism with cries of despair in it. Horowitz manages to balance everything out.
@Martel211996 Word! The dynamics, the feather-light touch,coloration, the perfect pauses at just the right time, the rubato. Who cares about the odd miskey (if there are any). That performance to me is inexpressible - it kind of brings me in touch with everything. Why do so many people keep putting Horowitz down is beyond me.
@Tader321 I agree a little with what you say. But here Horowitz is an old man- his body is full of aches. Kissin is a young man who just lets loose with his fast technique and loud playing right from the word go - that sort of ruins the climax. The poetry of Horowitz's 'old' perfromance here on youtube is the BEST in my humble opinion. It is beyond me that so many fail to see that that is his strong point. Kissin plays great piano for sure, I think his Campanella is one of the best. Bye^^
Nossa, intepretação incrivel e definitiva!!
avalokiteshivara 1 day ago
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jona1294 5 days ago
2:23 KEEP CLAPPING BITCH
sirshitsalot007 1 week ago 5
Seeing him smile at the end warms my heart..
keetner 1 week ago
@keetner Si.
kylelandry 3 days ago
Великлепно!
pianistvokalist 2 weeks ago
The girl at 2:21 looks like she had just fallen in love :) (I would have too if I were her, by the way)
teoleilx 3 weeks ago
Horowitz completely owns this piece.
baroque2 1 month ago
amazing
onejazzfan 1 month ago
*reads description* "Our Horowitz..." *sigh* Now he belongs to the ages.
forgottenbooks 2 months ago
I think this is less powerful but a lot deeper than his Carnegie Hall performance.
forgottenbooks 2 months ago
@forgottenbooks Could you say me when this performance happened? I'm trying to find out but nothing til now.
beatrizsmdr 2 months ago
@beatrizsmdr This performance is from 1986 in Moscow. The Carnegie Hall performance was from 1965 or 1968 (I don't remember exactly).
forgottenbooks 2 months ago
@forgottenbooks Thank you! I'm trying to find the Carnegie Hall performance.
beatrizsmdr 2 months ago
@beatrizsmdr /watch?v=7ClDFmFmr0k
forgottenbooks 2 months ago
@forgottenbooks Thank you! thank you very much!
beatrizsmdr 2 months ago
@beatrizsmdr The Carnegie Hall concert in its entirety is on YT (two uploads on two different accounts) - If you can't find them pls let me know (both are in my faves) :-))
Bret6464 3 weeks ago
@Bret6464 I'm not finding them. I tried your faves but I couldn't find. You have a great channel!!! :)
beatrizsmdr 3 weeks ago
@beatrizsmdr I'll send them to you :-)
Bret6464 3 weeks ago
@Bret6464 Thank you!!!
beatrizsmdr 3 weeks ago
@forgottenbooks Horowitz's 1986 Moscow concert in its entirety is also on YT :-)
Bret6464 3 weeks ago
I love this performance!!! thank you Horowitz!!
senripiano 2 months ago
He's happy in the end!
wishyouwerehere1984 2 months ago 4
fuckin' piece yay
MODERNAFRICANS 2 months ago
HOROWITZ'S SMILES ARE PRICELESS :)
Pr0fessionalDreamer 3 months ago 2
Unparalleled interpretation!
Vampianist3 3 months ago
es el maestro de maestros aunque otros toquen las mismas piezas solo el le da el verdadero razon musical
danierroaxula 3 months ago
O..., I wish I can borrow his hands!
iif5 3 months ago
by far the best version of it, personal thought
joechamell 3 months ago
Wow...such a difference between this one and his 1962 Moscow performancee/recording. Very interesting!
keetner 4 months ago
This is my favorite pianist!
matijarundic 4 months ago 2
I decided to record myself playing this piece after listening to Horowitz's rendering of it. Would greatly appreciate any feedback!
sofrech1991 4 months ago
unbelievable.
MrLittleredridinghoo 4 months ago in playlist MrLittleredridinghoo's Favorited Videos
Martha talks about the "incredible violence he has inside" in some old interview - which I think is so true and distinctive of Horowitz and is on full display in this performance.
RH98 4 months ago
БОЖЕСТВЕННО !!!! великолепно ! больше нет слов одни чувства !! Гениальное исполнение !!
Stanqqq 5 months ago
How can he play with his fingers so flat??????? This goes completely the opposite way that I'm taught!! In every video he plays this way!
ajguy8 5 months ago
@ajguy8 get a lawyer and sue your teacher, just joking. I was taught to play Chopin with my fingers flat like his; only on fast notes and trills can you curve your fingers
PrincessDesert 5 months ago
@PrincessDesert Yeah, it's easier with flatter fingers. You can use the weight of your finger as the main leverage to strike the key, as opposed to strictly relying on the muscles for leverage. It's like floating.
christopher19894 4 months ago
@ajguy8 He plays like any other pianist - but he poses his fingers as so on the video.
Montyleeny14 5 months ago
43 persons don't like the old persons.
RyoSaleh 5 months ago
A hard piece with a vitality need, but Horowitz don´t get away with his responsibility.
mrjohn1964 6 months ago
it's amazing that someone his age can even give a concert of this magnitude, I don't think these people realize what an amazing feat that is! Ever tried to play or simply speak in front even a small group of people? What he is going right now, given the age he is, it's an accomplishment that's almost supernatural!
EasternMerchant 6 months ago
比起旁邊的KISSIN，錯音很多~ 但是遠比KISSIN的好聽... 這才是歷練出來的音樂性阿!!
Tchaikovsky0726 6 months ago 2
At that age, I'll be lucky if I don't need a diaper. Meanwhile this guy is giving one of the finest piano performances I have ever seen/heard.
bloodwrage 6 months ago
出神入化, 琴神是也. Horowitz is the god of piano.
op66kimo 6 months ago 2
41 users listen to Justin Bieber xD
bobbanni 6 months ago
How are there people sitting down after that?! If there was ever a performance that deserved a standing ovation...
akpiano27 6 months ago
@akpiano27 their minds were so blown by the performance that they couldn't muster the coordination to stand up.
chizchizchiz 6 months ago
IS HE FROM SPAIN? LOOKS LIKE GIPSY MAN
teovenbar 6 months ago
@teovenbar gypsy
reu91 6 months ago
In some ways we can compare Horowitz to a great wine. He gets better with the age.
nicoejz 6 months ago
i wonder, im 14 and im thinking of playing the piano, does anyone in this blog reckon if i start playing the piano now, with proper trainign,i i can be able to do this piece hen im 32, or atleast to the point of being kind to the ears
wazfrmoz 6 months ago
@wazfrmoz I started playing at age 9 (20 now) with a bad bad teacher, (typical middle school teacher), so I practiced every now and then, I can play some chopin nocturnes, some debussy, etc. But I should be playing this kind of pieces right know, long story short: if u are really dedicated to playing piano, you will enroll into a conservatory, play for joy not worrying about the age or "how long will it take", and in 4 to 6 years you will play this. Not like me that I am wasting time in youtube.
spartan1081990 6 months ago
@spartan1081990
Yeah, agreed. I realize I've developed a lot of bad habits...none of which my teachers ever fixed (or noticed?). It makes me sad knowing I've played for so long and can barely pull off a two-part invention by Bach :(
keetner 6 months ago
@keetner practice makes perfect, leave friends out, girls out, partying, etc, and dedicate your life to learning new pieces, yeah right haha
spartan1081990 6 months ago
@spartan1081990 Keep trying. Same idea as you, and at a given moment I had loads of free time, and for a change I used it for playing the piano. I suddenly started playing Liszt - even making a shot at Mazeppa now.
Tu16 2 months ago
@Tu16 maybe, maybe ill do it some day
spartan1081990 2 months ago
ive notice that you europeans do really hate alcoholics
wazfrmoz 6 months ago
the part from :45 where he dramitcally quits the the sound the where he gracfully reincorporates the melody is my inspiration on interpritations love it
Tubztele 6 months ago
I don't think you can fully comprehend this piece until you can play it; and is it quite satisfying when the moment calls.
Balgig 7 months ago
i imagine those last two chords saying..... fuck you...Scriabin you are the fuckin man 1:47
Tubztele 7 months ago
Cute old man He flipped out and release that passion thunder at 1:42 its momments like that....that make me play better...im lucky to hear this
Tubztele 7 months ago
Unrivaled performance,
amazing
FlyingBlackAndWhite 7 months ago
Man, I wish that was my grandpa
blaxors 7 months ago 38
mi idolo
aibanezn 7 months ago
this is not music, fatal composition
100of1000 7 months ago
You know, it was 4 years ago when I first heard this recording of Horowitz. It this video that solidified my desire to do music for the rest of my life, and it was this video that led me to understand what music is. God Bless you sir for posting this video on youtube, it changed my life
AsturiasGuitar 7 months ago
"I really wish I could watch an awesome video of a great pianist without having to read people criticizing them. Like, really, if you don't like it don't watch." Well don't read the comments, just watch video. Stupid people are everywhere, I recommend you just learn to ignore them.
kaaprokorn 7 months ago
this "old horowitz " version is far better than the 99,9% of the version of today pianist.
Plus, the version he played at the private concert of the day before, was simply incredible and technically perfect !!!
it was impossible to ask him perfection twice in a row at that age.
xcomposerpianistx 7 months ago
it would be so much better if the sound was good
paganinilovedkebab 7 months ago
@paganinilovedkebab Yeah... it sounds so different than the CD version that I initially thought it was a different performance, but nope, I played both simultaneously and it's indeed the same! :s
Ibucrthis 7 months ago
I like 0:00 - 0:04, nose cleaning action and butt shuffling, best.
dsleech 7 months ago
This is the least anonymous interpretation I've ever heard. Horowitz sounded like no one else in the world
lordkrandel 7 months ago 22
how dare that lady at 2:24 not clap????!!!
metaljuggernaut74 7 months ago 4
Horowitz is the guy that grabs such a lyrical piece, and manages to enjoy it, while most pianists sweat with the eleventh jumps, and repeated chords. And, his version doesn't sound dissonant...
Laudan08 8 months ago 3
Vraiment magnifique. Version que personnellement je préfère.
pierrot5718 8 months ago
Arrechisimo!
ne0sn1ff3r 8 months ago
Magnificent.
DeathToNewbie 8 months ago
"I am god"
0101dicky 8 months ago 2
39 people can't feel
keiichibrana777 8 months ago
This video captures a transcendent moment in the history of piano performance. The interpretation is so powerful, so miraculous, so breathtaking. Every time I listen to it, I feel less alone in the world.
Pogouldiwitz 9 months ago
Its absolutely amazing that an elderly man in his 80s could muster such energy.
meredith21846 9 months ago 10
He makes it seem easy...
SofiaBlueSky 9 months ago
oh my god he's ADORABLE
herrbenefinn 9 months ago
This is probably as perfect as a pianist can become. Horowitz, I love you.
KheldarPr 9 months ago
idk how horowitz's poor finger technique makes him play so good!!! it must be magic... i mean, who is successful with flat fingers??? HOROWITZ ^_^
lkmusicman2 9 months ago
our horowitz. :) love him.
kasyapa 9 months ago
he owns this piece... un&#%^& believable...
Powerslider 9 months ago
I love Vladimir Horowitz!
massimiliano123123 9 months ago
37 people need to pull the trigger on themselves...
chelomustis 9 months ago
@chelomustis 38!
Pogouldiwitz 9 months ago
whats up with the lady at 2:24
ttslipknotrulez132 9 months ago
What a boss
crAsian 9 months ago 3
In my opinion, this is by far the best concert ever given.
SuhmMusic 9 months ago
By far my favorite piano composition!
baroque2 9 months ago
Amazing interpretation. As many users have mentioned, his patience and dynamics are absolutely amazing! Could not have been interpreted better!
aden0724 9 months ago
36 assholes
ytilibalaiava 10 months ago
it's not perfect, but that's what makes it perfect.
fatleader 10 months ago 4
moonsoul18 yes, a musigasm
kandutery 10 months ago
i'm sure Chopin would love this!
MarcMusik7 10 months ago
Fantastic person. Fantastic musician. At the end of this video you can see it in his face. Despite being a great musician, he was very modest.
Fantástico músico y persona.
PianoCussoSFHA 10 months ago
I love the way he simply wipes his nose as the crowd explodes in cheers.
cyrrusdavirus2 10 months ago 3
It is true that Horowitz is the best Scriabin piece performer.
MyLordLoke 10 months ago
Nobody has ever performed this Scriabin etude like Horowitz. Maybe not even Scriabin himself. there may never be another Horowitz unfortunately.
myccream 10 months ago
Funny how eagerly he looks to the audience for applause after that final chord...
ravenswylde 10 months ago
What really surprises me is how low he is sitting and how high his wrists are - I really can't play like this - yet, he plays with no effort. It's like he would be practicing scales, not playing such a difficult pieces like this.
MsAnitaLuna 10 months ago
Genius!!
emanuel33e 10 months ago
I really wish I could watch an awesome video of a great pianist without having to read people criticizing them.
Like, really, if you don't like it don't watch. Your damn opinion doesn't really matter.
Deal with it.
arthurmendonga 10 months ago 59
@arthurmendonga Absolutely right, couldn't agree with you more, those people need to learn to shut up :-)
Worse this is Horowitz being criticized, this is one of the best piano performances ever, and the "critiques" are less than coherent, too many alcoholics commenting on YT :-)
Bret6464 10 months ago 39
@Bret6464
At the same time, I do hope people appreciate Horowitz because of what he brings to the table and not just because "it's Horowitz!"
keetner 9 months ago
@keetner
Yes, agreed :-) This performance is from his Moscow concert, probably the single highest achievement in performing, creating music, by any pianist. There is another clip of him from that concert playing this etude and another Scriabin etude on YT, it's titled "Vladimir Horowitz - Scriabin - Etiudes", that vid is surreal :-))
Bret6464 9 months ago
@Bret6464
Was this Moscow concert in 1986? I saw some of his other performances of this etude, and I must say, I think I like them more than this one.
keetner 8 months ago
@keetner Yes, this is the 1986 Moscow Concert. There is more than one vid on YT of this identical performance from that same concert (sound quality could be different). Not sure, but probably there are other YT vids of Horowitz playing Scriabin 8/12 when he was younger. He did play and record Scriabin a lot.
Bret6464 8 months ago
@Bret6464 I think you'll find a few of the critics are actually internationally renowned musicians funnily enough! Horowitz isn't at all loved by the other concert pianists of today, on the whole.
wagneristhebest 7 months ago
@wagneristhebest Yes :-)) Horowitz was an extraordinary artist, he "created" as he performed. Those "renowned musicians" of today play with ZERO musicality or expression, 100% Neuhaus - play strictly to the notes - do not alter tempo and dynamics markings, and they perform with zero individual interpretation. I find most of the current pianists' boring and flat, with a few exceptions: Martha Argerich, Jung Lin, Bronfman's Rach 3 :-))
Bret6464 7 months ago
@Bret6464 by desiring individual interpretation and encouraging experimentation are you admitting a clear link between classical musical tradition and american jazz musical tradition? (they're the same shit, different year, so i've been a little easily riled at people trying to act like the older form is by default unique and superior)
godfreyhowatchin 7 months ago
@godfreyhowatchin To clarify and only talking classical piano. There are many pianists who were/are extraordinary technicians. Some play notes, as written, do not deviate from proscribed tempo and dynamics or in fact "interpret". Others do interpret and express what is "inside" - what has been called surreal artistry, expression and musicianship. IMO Horowitz was one of those artists, also Rach, Gilels, Moiseiwitsch, Richter, Weissenberg, Argerich, Jung Lin, Bronfman :-))
Bret6464 7 months ago
@Bret6464 i'm not trying to be argumentative, because if you find most current pianists boring and flat i invite and highly encourage you to go listen to some Ahmad Jamal and sit back relaxing and enjoying yourself
godfreyhowatchin 7 months ago
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Bret6464 7 months ago
@godfreyhowatchin as an outsider... yes you are argumentative but your advice leads to Jamal so you are reprieved ... sort of
:)
cacciato69 7 months ago
@arthurmendonga But your opinion is just as invalid. That's the problem when you have shit talkers and they need the mickey taken out of them, it's completely impossible to not contradict yourself. By the way I'm with you 100% arthurmendonga, I see all these asses ripping apart some of the greatest pianists/composers and it's beyond mind boggling. But the respect that WE bring to the table never goes unnoticed my friend. It's just hard to see such dribble aimed at such magnificence. Cheers bud!
kingcollie 9 months ago
@arthurmendonga uh, by your own argument, if you don't like the comments don't read them. "Your damn opinion doesn't really matter". Right back at you.
antoineph 7 months ago
@antoineph Yes, nice catch, critical thinking is awesome...
Hero0fSilence 7 months ago
@arthurmendonga
You know, I could say the exact same thing about you. If you don't enjoy seeing such comments, don't read them. Your damn opinion doesn't really matter, right? :P
I would also like to point something else out: how will you know if you enjoy something without having watched it? It's like telling someone to not go near the water if they don't know how to swim.
keetner 6 months ago
@keetner ... Is that not good advice to someone who doesn't know how to swim? To prevent them from, y'know, drowning?
holycow818181 6 months ago
@holycow818181
Yeah, but how will they ever learn how to swim?
keetner 6 months ago
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I think Horowitz and Rachmaninoff were fucking.
fissionesque 6 months ago
@arthurmendonga There is a Extension for Chrome (web browser) that disables comments. Obviously comments are pure noise and mostly crap. I'm using opera, that's why I don't have it right now :(
mayorde18 4 months ago
Moscow, 1980?
dinosedycias 10 months ago
This is the most beautiful music I've ever heard.
amadeuswebern 10 months ago
thirty-six people are tone deaf
CyanideReplica 10 months ago 4
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amadeuswebern 10 months ago
I don't get it. There's no energy here, no drama, no nothing. Horowitz is one of the greatest pianists, no doubt, but this is a massacre to me. He clearly looks like he's bored. Kissin's version is way better, though not usually comparable to Horowitz with other composers!
Frederikamusic 11 months ago 2
@Frederikamusic You joking! HAHAHA! and you really need to work on yr music appreciation. Kissin just makes a lot of noise! LOL
Horowitz is magnificent! This is MAGNIFICENT!
mgbrad3388 10 months ago 2
@mgbrad3388 I don't think so. I really don't feel anything when listening to this video. There's no life in it.
Frederikamusic 10 months ago
@Frederikamusic haha It's impossible not to feel anything when listening to this! something must be wrong with you :/
Luchetafight 10 months ago
@Frederikamusic You said he "looks" "like" he's "bored". This is wrong in so many ways I don't even know how to address this. This comment is, simply put, inane.
Ibucrthis 10 months ago
@Ibucrthis why do you say that? Look, it's not because it's the great master Horowitz that we can't disagree on the way he approaches this piece. Personnally, I think starting by a piano instead of a forte is a mistake, simply because it weakens the affects it produces from the start. This piece is meant to be an explosion, it's like fireworks, or a canonball. The first minute sounds awful to me! It really missed the EXPLOSION that we hear in Kissin's and Berezovsky's version.
Frederikamusic 10 months ago
@Frederikamusic Well, I'm not going to kill myself trying to change your mind. If you like Kissin(!) so much, then fine. I happen to like the guy's playing a lot as well. But for all I know, this Etude is meant to be a gradual crescendo, what with its progression from p to f (oscillating between the two anyway) to ff to fff. Not sure too if a piece marked 'Patetico' is meant to start as fireworks XD But hey, in the end, I'm glad you like this piece (one of my favorites). even if not this version
Ibucrthis 10 months ago
@Frederikamusic
Have you considered that Kissin's and Berezofky's "fireworks" are absolutely not what is called for? those two totally misplay Scriabin!
This is music that reflects Scriabin's sorrow and despair, his emotional pain!
The fireworks are in the 1812 Overture. Suggest you listen to that for the "explosion"" you seek :-)
Bret6464 10 months ago
@Bret6464 I'm sorry, but how can you say who "misplays" Scriabin ? What does that mean in the end ? I hear so many people saying Glenn Gould misplays Bach, some other saying he's the best interpreter. Where is the truth ?
The thing is, when I listen to this video, carefully, focused, I'm thinking : he's not into it. You might all think I'm wrong, I couldn't care less about it.
And I find it shocking that you say Berezovsky and Kissin misplay Scriabin. There's not one and only way to play it
Frederikamusic 10 months ago
@Bret6464 And also, I don't like the fact that just because Horowitz is playing you must get down to your knees. You would have heard Kissin's version and read it was Horowitz', you would have said it's a much better version than this one.
Names can be confusing.
Frederikamusic 10 months ago
@Frederikamusic Even someone who has never listened to classical piano music can tell the difference for Horowitz playing Scriabin 8/2, indeed any Scriabin piece (and Rach/Chopin) compared to Kissin or Berezofky.
This performance by Horowitz is from his Moscow Concert when he was in his 80's, and this is one of the greatest ever recorded back to the 1920s.
Nobody out there will confuse Horowitz with Kissin/Berezofsky/etc....or vice-versa :-)
Bret6464 10 months ago
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@Bret6464 1. There's a pretty large chance that I know more about what you call classical music than you. So you don't need to teach me where this performance is from and who was Horowitz.
2. You should learn how to spell "Berezovsky".
3. Nobody out there ? Well, that's your problem. :-) That's certainly why you're just one more person "out there". the difference between you and me, dear Bret, it's that I don't judge a piece by the number of people who approved it before me.
Frederikamusic 10 months ago
@Frederikamusic Yeah, I'm inclined to the more intense recordings, but his more passive interpretation is quite a different point of view, perhaps a more elderly take than Kissin's youthful vigor.
ohquffy 10 months ago
woah hot chick at the end
llethaface11 11 months ago
One of the very few instances I actually like his playing. I also agree that the gentle start makes it a unique interpretation of this warhorse etude. I could do without the banging from about 1:35 on though...
dernettep 11 months ago
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dernettep 11 months ago
Brilliante xD
TheSofaKing55 11 months ago
An interesting document. Horowitz evokes a more reserved, almost gentle approach to the opening section than most pianists, who begin trashing about from the beginning. The middle, or 'B' section, has an almost wistful, ethereal atmosphere before Horowitz unleashes his volcanic power. Most interesting is how Horowitz re-writes the final section, introducing his own right-hand triplets against a revised left-hand back-and-forth octave leaping, contrary to the written score. Very effective.
rekab7070 11 months ago
this song was made on the edge of the romantic era..and was scriabin was becoming a crazy dude...but still you can feel the russian spirit coming out of this song...awsome job horowitz !
vaseintibet 11 months ago
Uh did he make a mistake at 0:12?
sugarbaby602 11 months ago
@sugarbaby602 He makes lots of mistakes.
debrucey 11 months ago
I think the last studio recording he did of this piece is in very similar vein. It is like this but without the mistakes. Pity I can't find it on youtube anymore.
tweriovnzxclb 11 months ago
Love! Amazing interpretation.
judithabliss 11 months ago
Это что-то невероятное. В таком возрасте!!! Лучшее исполнение этого этюда от младшего современника Скрябина ..
Wertumn 11 months ago
This is after he got old. no longer as legendary as the one back then.
bilibalala 11 months ago
Ye Gods! Who's the fantastic looking woman, centre screen, briefly glumpse during applause? I'd learn to play this myself if i could have her in the front row......
NOSEhow2LIV 11 months ago 2
LOVE!
busashka 1 year ago
beautiful !!!!!
marg32 1 year ago
The dynamics are so perfect, at a moment he is playing on fortissimo then drops subito to piano and retains the same emotion so ellegantly. 0:44-0:49.
szopen010101 1 year ago
So he messes it up from 1.48 on? Wow! What a statement - could you point out exactly where he messes it up? I would love to be able to mess it up like that at any age. As for following the score - this is Horowitz. He was not bound by scores like other pianists. I bought a cds collectionb the other day with KISSIN/Horowitz/Rubinstein/Jean-Marc Luisada. All playing Chopin. Looking at the bigegr musical picture - Horowitz and Rubinstein come out best.
kwongin 1 year ago
@kwongin - hey, no need to throw a hissy fit. It is just my opinion. I just said i like Horowitz. Hes awesome.Just tell me then: so the composer puts all that dinamics and other orientations fo nothing? Whats the point? Once again: i understand, interpretation is personal and like you said: "not bound by scores". I just think that is important to be faithfull to the composer. Nevertheless, Horowitz IS great. This still beautiful.
DolfLoneWolf 1 year ago
@DolfLoneWolf Aye - I get it - I know what you are saying, I think maybe it's the way how this YOUTUBE message board makes it easy to take things out of context. You and I-we both like Horowitz. Fine! So now we are on the same page and things are in context I think I should explain why I had a'hissy fit'. YOU sort of used two words, 'MESS' and 'EVEYTHING' in the same sentence which doesn't exactly scream 'I AM A FAN of HOROWITZ' So theres's my explanation.
kwongin 1 year ago
@DolfLoneWolfAnd as for the way to play it - who really knows. Did Horowitz ever hear Scriabin play it?That's a question best answered by the musical historicans. I suppose it's possible. As for the 8/12 Score. Where is the justification for or against using dynamics? Kissin plays in really loud most of the way through-some folk like that. As far as I can see from the score thereis very little to go by. "Patetico' and a few clues for volume and speed. Horowitz could always read between the lines
kwongin 1 year ago
@kwongin - Ok, poor choice of words. I should not have said " mess everything". Who am i to say how horowitz should play, right? Lets just enjoy this music.
DolfLoneWolf 1 year ago
@DolfLoneWolf yes, people are still passionate about Horowitz. Enjoy - his music is forever.
kwongin 1 year ago
i love it
jamiebyrne77 1 year ago
it must be from the Moscow concert.
canmoscow 1 year ago
He is great, sure. Interpretation is very personal. But come on! From 1:48 on he mess it up everything. Plus the score is clear : fortissimo the etire piece. Except for the mid section.
DolfLoneWolf 1 year ago
@DolfLoneWolf Almost everything... The bass octaves still sound good :))
toni8675 1 year ago
Terrible!
DolfLoneWolf 1 year ago
@DolfLoneWolf how is it terrible?
Ianthe22 1 year ago
Speechless as usual - I've watched so many play it and still it blows my mind. No one comes close. No one. God Bless Horowitz.
kwongin 1 year ago
@kwongin no one comes close? Kissin does! his is better, way better, better than anyones, including Horowitz, theres more intensity and emotion in it. and plus Horowitz sounds sloppy at the end
Tader321 1 year ago
@Tader321 I beg to differ. Kissing plays FFFFF throughout the whole piece. YES this is a fiery piece. YES this is supposed to be a loud piece. YES it should be intense. BUT, there also should be a calming and soothing hint of romanticism with cries of despair in it. Horowitz manages to balance everything out.
Martel211996 1 year ago
@Martel211996 Word! The dynamics, the feather-light touch,coloration, the perfect pauses at just the right time, the rubato. Who cares about the odd miskey (if there are any). That performance to me is inexpressible - it kind of brings me in touch with everything. Why do so many people keep putting Horowitz down is beyond me.
kwongin 1 year ago
@Tader321 I agree a little with what you say. But here Horowitz is an old man- his body is full of aches. Kissin is a young man who just lets loose with his fast technique and loud playing right from the word go - that sort of ruins the climax. The poetry of Horowitz's 'old' perfromance here on youtube is the BEST in my humble opinion. It is beyond me that so many fail to see that that is his strong point. Kissin plays great piano for sure, I think his Campanella is one of the best. Bye^^
kwongin 1 year ago