Divinity of Jesus Messengerhood of Muhammad(s) (Debate-4)

[drkhalid77]

i lov u brother 4 de sake of ALLAH...gud job...may ALLAH help u in ur struggle.

[mahadcali1]

very nice debate. i laugh every five minutes becouse i think imran is trying to make fun of him. Tom and Jerry. I guess its all in fun though.

[atayar1]

FRANK, U CHRISTIANS READING BIBLE AND UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY OPPOSITE TO THAT, U SHOULD KNOW HOW COME GOD WILL REVEAL SUCH INCEST CASES, AND HOW COULD GOD WILL REVEAL SUCH DIRTY FILTHY LANGUAGE, TRY TO UNDERSTAND IT IS NOT THE GOD'S WORD, IT IS MAN'S WORK

[syeddsa]

i think chritians are not reading their bible if they start to read their bible they will found lot of changes in the bible

if they start to search which book is giving truth massege they will end search on holy QUR'AN because it is unchangeble and unchallengeble book in the world

[robysnehapuram]

who said u hopeless read 2 cor 13 :14

[TheZainaljb]

trinity is nonsense doctrin....no justification......

[frankielee77]

If I can prove that Gospel had the concept of trinity,would you Muslim eat your words,and apologise?If Ahmed Deedat who was shamed did not apologise why wouldn't u lie?

[beachman007]

nice videos

[al147316]

jew did not kill any one roman soldiers who put christ on the cross god bless my friend

[al147316]

it simple wen jesus came to earth he bacme a man hebrews 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

[romanali1]

al14713: So Jesus/God became less than angels when he became man?

Xtians say Jesus is FULLY God. So then God as a TOTALITY became less than the angels when he took human form (ie the person/body of Jesus the man).

Angels are without free will. They follow God's orders without question. So if God/Jesus inevitably gave up his will when he lessened Himself than the angels, how did he gain that will back? Who is ruling the world now? O.o

If Jesus is not Fully God; are you still monotheist?

[al147316]

god is one in three father son and holy spirit and jesus (son) came to earth die for our sins he became the perfact sacrfice for are son

[romanali1]

You didn't answer my question: is Jesus FULLY God, or is only a DISTINCT

[al147316]

fully god

[romanali1]

So if the FULL Godhood became embodied in a man/human form called Jesus the son of Mary, and the entire Godhood became less than the angels at that point, according what you said, am I to believe that the angels (or somethign else other than the person called Jesus) was the most superior thing in the universe from that point onwards?

And what can't God just forgive people, why must he pay the price. Is he incapable of forgiving without sacrifice (of himself to himself). Not all powerful?

[al147316]

no not the full god hood jesus who is part of the holy trinity who is one god in three persons and jesus manafested him self in to a man the resons he could not just for give them was becos in the gagden of eden god said to man if you eat from the tree of good and evil you are going to suffer and die and man broke gods word so we hat suffer and god could not just forgive us becos he would be braking his own words he would not be god

[romanali1]

"no not the full god hood jesus who is part of the holy trinity who is one god in three persons"

So you are essentially saying Jesus is a DISTINCT PART of the triune Godhood. This means Jesus has own consciousness, "the father" has his own consciousness, and "the spirit" has it's own consciousness, and the conjunction of the three make "God". The problem is, if the father part knows something, there is no guarantee the Jesus part knows too, unless they were FULLY themselves and each other?!

[romanali1]

Either way, no single part of the 3 remains all-knowing, because knowledge is now dispersed amongst the 3 distinct consciousnesses. Neither is one of the three parts all powerful, because it depends on the other 2 parts. Can they ever disagree or deadlock in argument? Does one part ever "win" in argument, in which case why worship the clearly inferior other two parts?

If you backtrack and say they are the same, then again, who ruled the universe when God (all parts) became less than angels?

[romanali1]

You didn't answer my question: is Jesus FULLY God, or is Jesus only a DISTINCT "part" of the sum "Godhood"

[al147316]

Jesus said I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. 14:6

[DeedatRules]

Thats what every Prophet said.

[al147316]

were in the torah did moses say it my friend

[ariffcts]

why dint JESUS KNOW THE HOUR...

HE SAID HE DOESNT KNOW THAT.HE WAS GOD WASNT HE ACCORDING TO YOU...HE ALSO SAID THAT GOD GAVE ALL THE AUTHORITY TO HIM SO HOW DINT HE KNOW THAT.. HE WAS THE EXCLUSIVE TRUTH AND WAY ..HE SHOULD KNOW ALL THE TRUTHS..BUT HE DINT...