Was Christ Crucified? Deedat vs Bishop Wakefield - 10 of 15

[MrDemonstein]

christian, they are arrogant and ignorance...they dont want to understand or to know...always point fingers even though the answer is front of their nose...oh well, white man i assume, red necks....btw...to muslim...u too same like christian...perhaps both of u can sit on one corner and hugging each other up...whats wrong u ppl?....its just a religion, lucky i had no religion....

[chikoo20005]

EgyToto... It seems that u need to be educated more than others. For the record Taqyia is allowed in Islam only if there is life threatening situation on you. And as much as I know Shia is the only Sector that has kept the real image of Islam that the prophet (pbuh) brought to this world.

[celioabatti]

@X1REME "Was the title al-ilah (the god) used of the moon god? YES!

"Was the word "Allah" derived from "al-ilah"? YES!

"Was the pagan "Allah" a high god in the pantheon of deities"? YES!

"Was he worshipped at the Kaaba? YES!

"Did they place the statue of Hubal on top of the Kabba? YES!

"Was the Kaaba thus the "house of the moon god"? YES!

"Did the name "Allah" eventually REPLACE that of Hubal as the name of the Moon God? YES!"

[EgyToto]

@celioabatti Go ReEducate yourself again before you try to spread lies, (muslim.org/islam/allah.htm) go read that. and furthermore, Dont spread lies, Either state facts or hush about it . Peace

[celioabatti]

@EgyToto The biggest scam in Islam, especially Shi’a Islam is perhaps the notion of "Taqqiyeh," an immoral tactic to lie for a good cause and later retract your words (the belief that the end justifies the means.) Islam is all about schemes, war, and violence.

[EgyToto]

@celioabatti Shia? who is talking about them? who said they even follow what the Quran says? because they dont. Again re educate urself.

[moeazysgc]

@celioabatti Less then 10% of the 2 Billion Muslims follow shia Islam! So this is Not apart of islam Get Ur infor right brother!

[celioabatti]

@moeazysgc

Hadith relate that Muhammad used to faint whenever revelation came to him. It is claimed he used to act like a drunkard).Muhammad received revelation, he was overwhelmed by trembling.” Another account says: “He became distressed, FOAMING AT THE MOUTH and closing his eyes. At times he snorted like a young camel” (Ahmad b. Hanbal I, 34, 464, VI, 163). (The True Guidance (Part Four): An Introduction to Quranic Studies)

[moeazysgc]

@celioabatti And ur point being, All prophets went through if not similar things! God words r not something soft or play around with it's powerful! "An Introduction to Quranic Studies" This is Not Quran liar!! It's Hadith of the prophet(saw) get ur info right Quran is the literal words of God not Muhammad! 

[celioabatti]

@moeazysgc

Really then can you please tell me how muhhamed got his revelation?

[moeazysgc]

@celioabatti i said Hadith is Not Quran,And Quran is not Hadith! Quran is the word of God Not Muhammad (saw) and hadith is the words of Muhammad n his companions! There A differences! U IGNORANCES IS AMAZING,Tell me do U believe in a Deity Or Not?

[celioabatti]

@X1REME THE? ALPHA AND OMEGA The ALMIGHTY IDENTIFIES HIMSELF.

Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches.

Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

[MrTonyshit80]

Pay the price now, or pay the price later...

[ati832]

the apocalypse of peter.

"He whom you saw on the tree, glad and laughing, this is the living Jesus. But this one into whose hands and feet

they drive the nails is his fleshly part, which is the substitute being put to shame,

the one who came into being in his likeness. But look at him and me."

THIS WAS WRITTEN BY ST.PETER HIMSELF AND HE HIMSELF SAYS THAT JESUS DIDNT DIE, LOOK IT UP CHRISTIANS AND WAKE UP.

[celioabatti]

Is Jesus God? Lets See What The Bible Has To Say!!! Mathew 1:23 Emanuel (GOD With Us) 2 Peter 1:1 Our GOD and Savior. 1 Tim 3:16 GOD manifested in Flesh. 1 John 5:20 The True GOD. Isaiah 9:6 Mighty GOD. Luke 1:47 God and Savior Hebr 1:8 Thy throne o GOD. John 1:1 GOD. Mathew1:23GOD. Those are just Some Verses That Speak for themselves! JESUS IS GOD!!!

[derrotemorgenstern1]

google the words "evil bible" and if you read the bible and still believe it is the word of god uncorrupted your either a sicko pr a lier or totally satanic. or put evilbible and the dot and a com.

[yuslan]

angels need food, angels go to sleep? angels go the rest room? but i know god rest on the 7th day. rest? how did god rest?

[sooloveso]

i haven't heard of angels eating food. sure they need a rest room.

[raginggaijin]

Neither would a resurrected body still exhibit the scars of this world.

When we die, we are resurrected into spirit. . I Cor. 15:42-45, Mark 12:45

From his own mouth he was not reborn as a spirit. Luke 24:39

Remember the parable of the wine skins.

You cannot put new wine into old skins; they surely burst. Luke 5:36-38

"No man having drunk old wine straightway desireth new; for he saith, The old is better." Luke 5:39

Peace be unto you.

[BonjourNuit46]

Here you stated what God should do,when you couldn't make a particle of dust out of nothing,when you don't understand even yourself let alone all of life

The Holy Spirit is the omnipresence of God,for only God exists in which we are part of God,yet God is the Creator and he created all of the universe and all of humankind but he created people to know him and to experience him

You desire to bow down to a god that does not exist,for Muhammad added a false god before God

[BonjourNuit46]

Either way,nothing makes sense to you because you are dogmatic in wishing Islam to be the truth and Islam is not the truth

Like I said you have your religion I have mine.

[BonjourNuit46]

Only Islam is blasphemy,Jesus is the Father and if you don't like that I said it,too bad

My church is all the world

Your main objection against Christianity is that you want Islam and what it offers like polygamy

I studied 30 years all religions,but God reveals how he is and he is not satan as portrayed by Muhammad and Muhammad remains a false prophet

You are taught nothing about God except to believe he is a tyrant who demands people bow down to him,

Jesus is the God of all there is

[BonjourNuit46]

Jesus is the Father,Son and Holy Spirit yes God came as a man as he said he would and he died like any man but not like any man, he rose from the dead as he said he would and then he continued his teachings.

I told you Jesus is in all people to guide them, evident by all people have intuition and all people have dreams, He has direct access to your inner most thoughts 24/7

Indeed God is unique and only God exists,there exists nothing and no body else but God and we are part of God

[raginggaijin]

God is not a man I Sam. 15:29, I Tim. 2:5 God does not change. Mal. 3:6, Num. 23:19, I Sam. 15:29, Isaiah 46:9-11, Eze. 24:14 God is King. Jer. 10:10, Zech. 14:9, Rev. 19:6 God is our Savior: 1 Timothy 2:3, Rev. 20:7-12, Psalm 27:1-5,7,9 Exodus 20:3 "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." Read Eze. 18 again. That is the path to Salvation. Believe or believe not. I am not a guardian. I am but a messenger and warner preceding God's Judgement. Peace and blessings.

[MoShow3000]

hello brother

i have a question..

who did jesus pray to if he was god?

and

who was he calling to when he said "ELLA ELLA" when according to you he was crucified? it cant be god because you say he is god.

thanks peace

god bless

[BonjourNuit46]

I do not believe in 3 gods,and if I did, I would boldy say so,because I couldn't less what Muhammad or Muslims say as no prophet was sent after the Messiah,the Messiah was the last of the prophets to come and Muhammad was a false prophet proven by his own mouth

If Jesus was only a prophet,I would have accepted that but he proved he is God who is in all people,I know that because I experience him

When you reject Jesus is God,then you can never accept Jesus is the Trinity

[BonjourNuit46]

Dude,it is difficult to squeeze 30 years of study in this tiny space

You cannot accept the Trinity but the Trinity is not 3 gods,it is Jesus who is the Father who vowed to come knowing he would die on the cross to which he did so that he could rise from the dead to continue his teachings which is he is in all people on earth to guide them regardless of what they believe but the one who proves this best is himself and it is how Judgment will occur or how he will appear to all people on earth

[BonjourNuit46]

Indeed Jesus died on the cross because he wore a humanbody just like we all do,for we too have eternal life

but Jesus rose from the dead because God doesn't die and we are part of God.

It is the greatest of all miracles for Jesus said,it it better I die on the cross,then I can return to being the Father,I will return to you to fill you with awareness of my presence to which he did,so that they all could face their persecution with boldness with they did

[BonjourNuit46]

Are you reading what I am writing,Jesus had to prove to his apostles he is God How many Muslims believe Jesus is God,Zero

Jesus did not commit suicide he was sent to the cross for claiming he was God,in John 10:28-33 when he said I gave them eternal life,for I and the Father are one,to which the Jews picked up stones to stone Jesus saying Blasphemy,you a mere man claim to be God

[BonjourNuit46]

Jesus died on the cross and rose from the dead,because Jesus claimed he is God and he had to prove it so that he could continue teaching his apostles about the Kingdom of God which is how God is with all people on earth and that awareness of that fact,transforms a person into paradise

There is only One God and Christianity only teaches there is only one God and Muhammad who was a false prophet accused Christians of believing in 3 gods,plus a 4th with Mary

Jesus is the Light bec he is God

[BonjourNuit46]

I brought up the Pentacost because you said it was just an opinion when it was when Christianity came into existence

for Jesus proved his claim to being God when Jesus returned from the dead to fill his apostles with the Comforter,or Holy Spirit of Truth which is Jesus because Jesus is God,the Creator/Father who came into humanform as God incarnate to re-teach he is in all people as the Holy Spirit of truth which means loving presence of God

Jesus is the Trinity

[BonjourNuit46]

Pentacost is not an interpretation but an event that transformed Jews into Christians,it was an event that proved not only is Jesus God but that he is in all people,for these apostles experienced that truth and reality in order to face being persecuted

Jesus often spoke spiritually symbolic,His coming on the clouds is a sweet way to say he is in you and clouds are your thoughts and beliefs that block out his presence,he is with you even if you do not believe in him because he is God

[BonjourNuit46]

People convert to Islam because they are ignorant

How could you believe that Jesus didn't die on the cross and that God tricked another who looked like Jesus to die in his place

That is an outrageous lie and that is adding satan before God

How could you not see that Muhammad claimed he would take his followers out of the darkness into the light when the light is the presence of God and no Muslim experienced God

and Jesus said 500 years before,He is the Light who gave life to humankind

[BonjourNuit46]

It is not an opinion to say Jesus never announced a Muhammad to come who would devalue Christianity and Jesus

Muhammad used Jesus,there would no point for Jesus to have come,if God desired Muhammad to come because they taught opposite teachings.

God taught love your neighbour,Muhammad said show how mean you can be to your neighbour,hate the non believer see them as evil and that teaching itself is evil

People are coming to Islam because they are ignorant

[BonjourNuit46]

Deedat did not quote the Bible in its contexts,for example he said the Gospel of John confirmed Muhammad because the Holy Spirit is a he,mentioned 8 times

That means Deedat overlooked the passages that state the Holy Spirit was to come to Jesus'own apostles while they lived,not 500 years later and the Holy Spirit lives with and in all people on earth because the Holy Spirit of Truth is God and when properly translated those words mean the Loving presence of God proving Muh was a false prophet

[BonjourNuit46]

When the opponents do not know Deedat's beliefs then they cannot defend themselves,or they cannot narrow down their selection of facts to present them

Deedat never could expose Christian lies when no prophet was sent by God after the Messiah,only Muhammad lied and believed in his lies

Deedat being parroted Muh's beliefs

Deedat never shook the world,he drugged the world with lies that still influence people and when Jesus does appear,they all will mourn and grieve

Yes he did hate whites

[BonjourNuit46]

Islam is not a religion of truth,that is a false claim

could satan attract a following if he said follow me,I will lie and deprive you of true paradise,of course not so he would say,he only spoke the God's truth but Muhammad said Jesus announced his coming and that is a lie proving Muhammad never was guided by God

Should it prevail,it will do so by force,violence,deception because Islam is not from God but Satan

That you prefer Islam is your choice but not a wise one

[BonjourNuit46]

He quizzed them and when he realized they didn't know much of Islam then they would not what Muslims believe to prepare themselves for any debate

He might have challenged Billy Graham and the Pope but they didn't know him and who was he but a Muslim who didn't believe in Christianity and who even hated white people

Who was Deedat to lie to unsuspecting people who knew neither the Bible or the Koran?Deedat did lie,I couldn't go a minute into any of his videos without hearing some stupid lie

[BonjourNuit46]

Deedat chose men he believed he could outshine

He never debated with the big guns cause he would have been slaughtered and those who possess Deedat's tapes could cut out what they wanted for Islam and its followers are deceptive as they fight over the religions when Muhammad told them not to

Only Deedat lied and he quoted out of context what he wanted and ignored all that proved he was a liar

He should have examined instead the koran to see it many contradictions and lies but he was afraid to

[BonjourNuit46]

Deedat left school as a lad,big deal, but he traveled the world pretending he was a expert on the Bible when he chose to see what served him and ignored what would prove he was a LIAR

He only chose people no one knew to outshine them because Liars are that way

The harm Deedat did, you can't imagine,but in the end he hurt himself and those who believed in his lies

but then again he was a Muslim and no prophet came after the Messiah for the Messiah means the last of the prophets

[amielord]

No prophet was to come after Jesus? after years and years you all modified what jesus have taught, which suit ur need within that period of time, new revelation after another, now tell me why no prophet was to come after Jesus(PBUH).The Jews rejected Jesus,that closed the door to prophets? there is no such thing.

[BonjourNuit26]

Deedat being a devout Muslim parrots only what he believes and he was taught Jesus didn't die on the cross

I have heard Muslims even say,God tricked another who looked like Jesus to die instead because God protects his prophets

But Jesus died on the cross,rose from the dead and that is when Christianity came into existence and not before

No prophet was to come after Jesus,but wolves in sheep's clothing

[marronnier]

No prophet is to come after Jesus? The problem of you chrestians is that you invent (or some of you)your religion and you cannot argument.

[BonjourNuit27]

No prophet but false prophets came after the Messiah,the Jews rejected Jesus,that closed the door to prophets.

Only your religion,Islam begins with a false prophet

Muhammad invented a new religion,Islam that contradicts God and that serves only Satan but the problem is Muslims do not know they cling with their very souls to satan.

That is how satan has captured intelligent,people.

[BonjourNuit27]

No prophet was to come after Jesus,except wolves in sheep's clothing and by their fruits you will know them

They will teach lies,hatred,violence,that serve only Satan

Muhammad said Jesus did not die on the cross,that God tricked another who looked like Jesus to die instead and that claim is Muhammad adding Satan before God

Christianity came into existence only after Jesus went to the cross and not before

so the problem is with you Muslims who are taught to hate us

[peaceislam1]

bonjour u have to agree ahmed deedat always destroys christian in debate becuase islam is true and worlds fasting growing religion

[BonjourNuit44]

Deedat only chose people who could outshine,he always debated with people no one ever knew about but even so, he only appears to destroy Christians in his debates because he lied and God does not need liars to defend him,only Satan needs liars

Like a disease Islam spreads,but this was known that it would happen long ago

but in the end,you will still learn Muhammad was deceived as the world's only false prophet

[peaceislam1]

bonjour u know swaggart was one of the famous christians ever and how is he a liar he gives facts from bible so y u r saying bible is a book of lies u admit hi5

[BonjourNuit45]

I never heard of swaggart in my whole life,Deedat only selected people he could outshine,but that is because he was deceiving and in the end he deceived only himself and those who trusted in him

Deedat was never an expert on the Bible and Deedat lied

When no prophet came after the Messiah which is the last prophet then Only Islam is a book of lies

Hi5

[peaceislam1]

bonjour dont lie he challanged the pope and he said any christian who would debate him and christians were too scared

[BonjourNuit46]

I would have gladly debated with Dedate,and who is Deedat to think that the Pope should debate with him,that only shows you some people are crazy.

Deedat was a liar and the worst kind for he believed in his lies and he was prejudice and he worked against God and he never realized it until he died and only then did he learn Jesus is God and Muhammad was and is the only world's false prophet who invented a new religion that contradicts God but served Satan

[BonjourNuit26]

No prophet was to come after the Messiah, the door to further prophets was forever closed

God never sent prophets to all nations,God chose from Abraham's son,Isaac to carry as everlasting the Covenant thus prophetic line, and it is from the Jews that Muslims believe in one true God,it is from the flaws of the Jews that Muhammad have modeled Islam

Jesus died on the cross and he rose from the dead,that is when Christianity came into existence,not before

[BonjourNuit10]

No prophet but false prophets came after Jesus,the Jews rejected their Messiah,then God would never send Muh who didn't know their languages yet who claimed their bible was falsified but the Dead Sea Scrools prove Muh false

There are over 1000 Deedat Sites alone,attaching Christianity with lies as it is a Lie to teach Jesus didn't die on the cross when only after Jesus died on the cross and rose from the dead to prove He is God is when Christianity came into existence and not before

[joshuaseagul]

Diatortion of bibble using some words illogically.

[forzaitalia2]

to bonjour and adeelam, nice to see a good discussion on this page. well done guys

[adeelalam084]

lolz..on one hand they believe that everybody fell short of the glory of GOD and on the other hand they believe that GOD was defeated by one of his men..lolz...they dont use their brains

[BonjourNuit2]

Christianity only came into existence because Jesus died on the cross and rose from the dead.

No prophets were to come after Jesus,that means Muhammad was a false prophet and he proved it himself by teaching falsehoods such as this claim that Jesus didn't die on the cross or that Muhammad was the ahmad when the ahmad is how God is with all people on earth.

[adeelalam084]

lolz..utter a word after u remove the contradictions from Bible(which is impossible)

[BonjourNuit3]

adeelalam the bible is not your business,I accept the bible as it is.

You are a Muslim,your job is only to obey Muhammad who said don't fight over the religions for God upon Judgment day will decide over the religions and you do not honour him.

[BonjourNuit]

Christianity only came into existence after Jesus died on the cross and rose from the dead,not before.

No prophet was to come after Jesus because Jesus died on the cross and rose from the dead to teach he is with all people on earth as the spirit of truth or Holy Spirit.

Jesus alone is to return to our world and as God Revelations 21:3-4

[IbrahimBalilah]

Deedat is a logical person. no Christian can debate him.

[ObamaGo]

Christ is to be experienced, not debated.

[BonjourNuit]

When Muslims want to say Muhammad was fortold in the bible,then the bible is valid but when people of the book reveal Muhammad was a false prophet then of course the bible looses validity to the Muslims.Jesus died on the Cross!

Matthew 27-50

mark 15-37

Luke 23-46

John 19:28-30

[nooraddyn]

What kind of Book is Bible?

THERE IS BUT ONE GOD.

The Lord our God is one Lord. (Deut. 6:4.)

THERE IS A PLURALITY OF GODS.

For there are three that bear record in Heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost. (1 John 5:7).

[Shanaf1]

What kind of Book is Bible?

It's a book that contain God's words, Prophet's words, Historian words, Pornography, opinions, ... etc.

So go to a scripture that "Governs" this one, in other words the "Qur'an".

[caleb4545]

Deedat is liar!!!

[GodOfGambler]

brother caleb, I understand what is now going on in your mind. It is hard to accept that what we have believed for so many years is proven, or at least questioned, in a very logic way. no hard feelings.

[2pacalcool]

well he only quoted the bible so who r you really calling a liar :D

[sabathiel01]

If arguing from the Bible doesn't work they say they don't accept the validiity of the Bible because it is a corrupt book. Why would anyone who is concerned about the Truth quotes from a Book which he believes has been corrupted and doesn't accept its validity? This desperation to convert or hypocrisy. Muslims are not concerned with the Truth but will argue and say anything to convert Christians.

[maaghms]

sabtheil01 doesn't have a flaming idea of what he's talking about..just like the majority of christians..just hot air coming from their mouths without any sense. Muslims quote from Bible because that's what u christians believe in. So Muslims are using ur OWN bible to prove that you christians have been programmed since childhood to ignore the real obvious truth and stubbornly and blindly follow the devil.

[2pacalcool]

hehehe... look just answer me one thing.. IF THE BIBLE IS FROM GOD WHY ARE THERE CONTRUDICTIONS, NUMERICAL MISTAKES, REVISIONS, MAJOR REVISIONS????? ask yourself..

[sabathiel01]

LOL The Bible wasn't written by God. The Bible was written by men (many men) who was only inspired by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit doesn't make mistakes but the humans who wrote the Bible can make mistakes. They could hear wrong and make a mistake when they were writing. It's possible! If we claimed that God wrote the Bible then you can say the Bible shouldn't have any mistakes! LOL But God didn't write the Bible humans did! LOL

[adeelalam084]

y couldnt GOD dictate them the right words or correct them?????...We muslims have Quran which is the real word of GOD and doesnt contain any mistake...becoz it is the real word of GOD

[BonjourNuit3]

Adeelalam Muh said he would take his followers out of the darkness into the Light when Jesus said in John 8:12 that he was the Light,Muhammad said God is the beginning and the end and Jesus said in Revelations 22:13 he is the beginning and end,

Muh said he was the Ahmad fortold to come but the Ahmad is the Holy Spirit of truth that lives in all people as in John 14:15-21

Yes you Muslims have the Koran but Muh was a false prophet.

[adeelalam084]

lolz...for u he was..for us Mohammad (SAW) is the true Prophet of GOD and btw i dont c any spirit with any christian..e.g Swaggert claimed that Holy Spirit speaks to him and tells him this and that and after few days he was caught with prostitutes!!!!! i dont beleive that GOD speaks or the sirit of truth is with every chrisitna if it was so than they would'nt ever do things like these(like visiting prostitues)

[BonjourNuit3]

Adeelalam Swaggert was caught with prostitutes,I guess he wasn't able to marry many wives and have concubines or marry a 9 year old or take his adopted son's wife as was Muh.

[adeelalam084]

lolz...thats the point..he made fun of ALLAH's law while addressing the audience and after some days everyone saw how ALLAH punished him for his mocking..he was caught and as far as i know his preaching license has been canceled too..regarding your second statement whihc u made as a typical dirty minded christian whose daughter and sister loves to have sex without marriage but if somebody marries a girl and after "MARRIAGE" they do whatever they want than u have a big problem with that.

[BonjourNuit3]

Adeelalam Swaggert was a phoney and God exposed that

I never heard of Swaggert before these videos.

When you people stone people to death and practice honour killing for telling a stranger the time of day, but a man can marry 4 wives because man rewards himself in this life time as the only thing he values in life is organisms.

Otherwise Muslims don't give a dam about God.

[adeelalam084]

well..i m sure that u r not from this planet..and it never hapened that somebody told someone else time and got killed..hwever Bible tells us that 42000 people couldnt pronounce one word correctly and they were all slaughtered!!!

so i think u r talking about your Bible ..oh Bible also tells u to stone your child if he doesnt obey u!!!

[adeelalam084]

lolz..so u r the decider? i m here on my own and i can do whatever i want bt i dont exceed my limits!!! y..becoz i m a muslim and i fear ALLAH...and practising muslims have sex after marriage..marry uto 4...unlike praticing Christians who marry one and than visit prostitues...many of your big Guns have been caught in this way...they were all highest ranked priests or pastors or whatever

[BonjourNuit3]

Adeel if you had sex before marriage,they would stone you to death and that is why many Muslims don't have sex before marriage.

Marriage doesn't mean sex is right because if the 2 don't love and respect each other then the children born of this union will be abused,neglected and grow up to be deviant.

[adeelalam084]

no...b4 marriage if i have sex than ill b punished with 100 lashes..but if i make sex after marriage than i might b stoned...

and btw..as far as i know Bible doesnt support any pre-marital sex(or does it?)..so it is better not to reason on GOD's laws but just to obey them..coz he is all knowing and not the human beings and i as a muslim have full right of choosing my spouse!!! but not make sex with her b4 marriage..

[adeelalam084]

and in case u dont know..Mohammad(SAW) himself broke 2 marriages becoz the woman in that case was suppressed and she wasnt happy and came to Prophet and Prophet broke her marriage and it isnt according to Islam to suppress your children on marrying with somebody if they dont want it

[BonjourNuit3]

Adeelalam you are a good person but you are commanded to obey only Muhammad.

Leave the dispute over the religions to God who will decide upon Judgment day as to which is right or wrong.

Until then,I will defend my religion,my bible and my belief that Jesus is God.

Even so I know God desires to save all Muslims and God desires for them to also experience true paradise.

Blessings to you and to all Muslims throughout all the world.

[adeelalam084]

thanks..let us pray to GOD to show right path to those who r distracted(not mentioning anybody -saying in general!!) and those who r on the right path remain on the right path..amen

[BonjourNuit3]

Adeelalam agreed! Again Blessings to you.

[bd9mc]

bonjour dont u think stoning if u hav sex before marriage is a detterent? and then u say quote - Many Muslims dont have sex before marriage...

use ur intellect and tell me why

[BonjourNuit17]

Stoning adulterers is barbaric and primitive,and it is taking judgment out of God's hands.

There is nothing wrong in being chaste before marriage, it is only wrong when they kill people who are not

Honour killing, religious police,and stoning people to death is not from God and it has nothing to do with whether or not Jesus was crucified,

Jesus was crucified and he died on the cross

then he rose from the dead and that is when Christianity came into existence and not before

[bd9mc]

it says in ur own unholy bible to stone adulterers? does that mean its barbaric? o no it doesnt becos its not islam

[BonjourNuit26]

Indeed it does say in the Jewish Torah to stone adulterers but Jews do not do this today,they get a divorce and Jesus stopped the stoning of a woman, but Islam still stones people, how truly barbaric is that

and to think Muslims want others to join Islam, is it because misery loves company?

[bd9mc]

erm Jesus says he has cme not to destroy the law or the prophets so wher did he stop it? its paul who stopped it not jesus

[BonjourNuit26]

Paul was not a prophet but he had to see Jesus to believe

Jesus came to fulfill the Law,there was no need for Muhammad,for Muh loved power,fame and slaves,and he could not have them any other way but through his claim that he was a messenger but God is not a liar and said only from Isaac comes the covenant thus prophetic line

[bd9mc]

how can u commit adultery and get a divorce? adultery means sex before marriage... damn boy use ur head

[marronnier]

still stones? Where? Are you this incult and ignorant or You're just too afraid of the truth that more and more people are finding.

Islam is much less "barbaric" than christianity.

[BonjourNuit27]

Islam stones adulterers,has religious police,has sharia law,practice honour killing or hala and teaches hatred towards the non believer and is oppressive

for only Islam begins with the world's only false prophet who added satan before God when he said obey me and obey Allah

[peaceislam1]

bonjour the islam sharia works saudi arabia has least rapes in world USA has most which is mostly christian and muslims give most charity not christians they dont drink they wear scarf whcih the bible says to wear but christians make thir own rule so before pointing to islam look at ur own religion

[BonjourNuit44]

Saudi Arabia forbids women to leave their home unescorted by a male relative and they have religious police who rape,torture even execute people not Muslim enough

Rapes also occur in Muslim nations,but only Muslims have hala or honour killing,this is worse than rape as it involves gang rape and murder and this ancient practice occurs in most places Muslims live world wide

and This is a great evil

Honour killing is even upon children who are raped

Bible does not say to wear head scarf

[BonjourNuit26]

Do you really think they stone only those who have sex before marriage,

Muslims worldwide have honour killing for that,they even commit murder on mere suspecion, they even kill little children who were raped by relatives

I do use my head,it is you who do not

[BonjourNuit3]

Adeelalam you can only believe Muh who claimed he was fortold to come as the Ahmad which is the Holy Spirit of truth that lives in all people,as written in John 14:15-21 and do you have intuition and do you have dreams for these are some of the ways the Holy Spirit communites to all people.

[adeelalam084]

and by the way.every book on the surface of this earth can ontain mistake.even hadith books too!and from another research the age of Ayesha(RA) has been told to b 16 and after 3 years she was 19 and than she went with Prophet.but even if thats not true.than look at her life .She loved the Prophet even after his death!in her lifetime there were few chances and if she wanted to separate herself from him than she could do it.but she didnt.coz she loved him!.

[adeelalam084]

and by the way.every book on the surface of this earth can ontain mistake.even hadith books too!and from another research the age of Ayesha(RA) has been told to b 16 and after 3 years she was 19 and than she went with Prophet.but even if thats not true.than look at her life .She loved the Prophet even after his death!in her lifetime there were few chances and if she wanted to separate herself from him than she could do it.but she didnt.coz she loved him!.

[BonjourNuit3]

Adeela I have read the Koran,I see Muhammad was in many ways very sincere,very intelligent and very likeable still those qualities does not make God contradict himself,

God said no prophets were to come through Ishmael's lineage to which ONLY Muh laid claim.

Now what would Muh prefer,for Muh to be called a Liar or God to be called a Liar?

I bet you Muh would rather be called a liar because God is not a liar.

[adeelalam084]

the problem is that u dont want to c the truth ion its face..u dont want to accept that human beings have been making changes (they made it probably for good..but they were wrong)..and u think that Bible is the ultimate word..u beleive in Jesus being son of GOD.although he himself said that he cant do anything on his own..and the heavenly father is the greatest and not Jesus!!!...but u just take those verses from where u can smell trinity!!!

[sabathiel01]

You missed the counter arguments to Deedat's arguments which says the Rabbinic definition of a day isn't necessarily 24 hours to be counted as a day. It is sufficient that the event took place during that particular day (Friday) to be counted as 1 day. The whole Saturday is counted as 1 day. The tomb was empty on Sunday which is also counted as 1 day. That makes 3 days not 3 literal 24 hours day. You listen again this is not dealt by Deedat.

[naliakbar]

the phrase from jesus' mouth was "For as jonnah was 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of the whale, so shall the son of man be 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth" does that sound to you as 3 days morning to morning? no it says 3 light time and 3 night time, so read your bible

[sabathiel01]

Obviously Jesus wasn't being strictly literal when He said that just like the Bible wasn't meant to be literal when it says God created the world in 6 days (day and night). Islam is even worse since Jesus wouldn't be in the heart of the earth at all since he was never crucified or died on the cross not even for 1 second. What amazes me is that Muslims are never consistent in their arguments against Christians.

[wisdomuser]

bring your arguements.

it was made to appear to them so, but god raised him up to him

[sabathiel01]

Righteous doesn't mean perfect or sinless. Holy is perfect and sinless. Nobody but Jesus (God) is Holy (sinless). 3 days doesn't mean 72 hours literally as argued by Bishop Wakefield and Deedat ignored this argument.

[naliakbar]

you missed Deedat's arguement, day (light) and night(dark) so there should be 3 light periods and 3 dark periods, and from friday to sunday this is not the case. listen again to what he says.

[TruthbHeard]

The crowd of Christians are so dumb, their is no better word then Programming

[OpenerUK]

the bishops quite polite,this is a nice debate...the other debates,everyones shouting and screaming at the Christian team and they are very harsh.mind u,Shaykh does give them a hammering.but at the mo,i like this debate.

[gorillachilla]

all dese bishops and priest are devils, seen most of em in news as gays and child molesters

[sgrbabe]

people eat food bcoz they need food it, not angels.

do we ever heard of toilets for angels ? when you eat like human, you need to let go/go to the toilet. it's common sense or some sense are not so common after all.