Pre-Roman Britons & Post-Roman Anglo Saxons - DNA, Culture & Centuries apart!

[celticcornish]

@StEdmundsandStGeorge But then, why should actual historical fact get in the way of a primary emotional response that the whole thing is simply about hate? Perish the thought that there could be some thinking behind any of it? Perish the thought that any complaint directed towards the administration may have substance or historic legal grounding....

[celticcornish]

@StEdmundsandStGeorge I tell you what... let's hit nobody. Instead, let's understand that we are legally different people who have been illegally assimilated; then let's acknowledge that that isn't defensible behaviour and make amends by reinstating legal borders and respectful acknowledgement that borders defined difference, reinforced by specific language and culture. It is pure ignorance to see a defense of legal, historic Cornish boundary as "anti-English".

[pilgim]

England is no less celtic than Ireland or scotland etc,the word 'celtic' is a Roman word meaning barbarian and was applied to spain (celta iberia) and many places through out Europe,I think some people confuse celtic with ancient peoples such as the Druids who were just as prevalent in modern day England as anywhere else.Some of our most sacred sites(stone henge,silbury etc) are in England.I wish we could get over this romantic fantasy,sure it sells well to tourists but its unfounded

[celticcornish]

@pilgim What is more 'romantic' - the belief that "Celt" is virtually an all-encompassing description, or that an actual language existed and was spoken by those firmly established in Celtic regions defined by their cultural/religious practices and behaviours - within their acknowledged, legal borders. I propose it is you who is 'romantic' in your belief that Celticness surrounds all; regardless of historically defined borders, languages and viscous (culturally-specific) conflicts.

[hetrodoxly]

If your grandfather was born in England you have a 75% chance of being descended from hunter gatherers who came here just after the last ice-age.

[celticcornish]

@hetrodoxly So what? In defense of the Cornish-not-English issue we are comparing 100+ years of English assimilation-by-stealth with 1400 years of legal/recognised Cornish difference & boundary. If we are using near history and longer-term history as the basis to define our credible identity, I'm going with the 1400 years of established Celtic-Cornish difference/documented cultural divide. Can anyone substantiate anything culturally relevant/useful using the 'hunter-gatherer' period?

[MultiTangle]

The English are more mixed than the Cornish.

[celticcornish]

@MultiTangle True - the DNA studies have illustrated this. Mass mobility into and out of Cornwall has been a fundamentally modern phenomenon.

[EnglandPerson]

this is a myth the english laguage is germanic but there is a lot of latin in it to it doent mean it was always spoken

[EnglandPerson]

and dont say there isnt how the hell would you now weather there is or not ? answer me ?

[celticcornish]

@EnglandPerson I've never debated the amount of 'Celtic blood' in England on my videos. It's not a subject which particularly interests me. I am primarily concerned with the historical rights of Celtic Cornwall and Celtic Cornish people, but the rights of our Celtic Welsh cousins concerns me - as well as the rights of all Celtic Nations - that is to say all nations and peoples within nations who define their land by historical law and boundary - and therefore legal difference, from England.

[celticcornish]

@EnglandPerson Answer you, indeed! How impertinent you are in your belief that you deserve a response!

[EnglandPerson]

this is a lie and the guy who talks in it is irish at 1.22 and there are a lot of english that come from the first brits

[celticcornish]

@EnglandPerson Hysterical! I see.... this video lies about DNA, but you have exclusive access to 'truthful' DNA videos? I've yet to see you substantiate any personal statement you've made with historical fact researched by you. All you do is send links to other videos and make unsubstantiated statements with no historical references. Your perspective/presentation is consistent in its lack of credibility.

[celticcornish]

@EnglandPerson So how do we know the difference between a lie and the truth? I'll tell you; TRUTH is substantiated by historical research. Documented historical research lends credibility to this particular BBC feature. In proclaiming it to be a lie, you are simply stating an opinion unless you can document with historical fact WHERE EXACTLY a lie is perpetuated, and that does not mean providing yet another link to a video. Defend your perspective with the specific determination of a lie here.

[celticcornish]

@celticcornish Correction: It's a Channel 4 feature, I believe.

[celticcornish]

@EnglandPerson 'Evidence' is PROPOSED and the individual RESEARCHES. You appear to have done no research because you only make opinionated statements and provide video links to other PROPOSED 'evidence' which does not originate from your own study. I suggest that you present your evidence for others to view on your own channel. Perhaps you will feel better about me presenting my research, when you can present yours and let people decide for themselves?

[celticcornish]

@EnglandPerson I'm not disputing the notion that some people residing in modern-day England may have Celtic DNA or ancestry, WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT LIVING IN A CELTIC COUNTRY - dictated by the fact that the POST-ROMAN GERMANIC SAXON INVADERS MADE 'ANGLE-LAND' THEIR OWN WHEN THEY DROVE THE PRE-ROMAN CELTS TO THE EDGES OF THE BRITISH ISLES. If you self-identify as 'English' then that identity references post-roman Germanic, Saxon dominance; it's at odds with Celtic identity.

[greenmagoos]

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