I'm pondering what the murder of Oscar Grant has to do with Beyonce. This young man's murder at the hands of police is certainly a terrible tragedy, but you seem to be much more pissed off at Beyonce than the cop(s) responsible. I have never heard a word about how Beyonce hates all men. What about Taylor Swift? Do you hate her, too? She wrote a not so nice song about how Joe Jonas broke up with her over the phone. She told many people how Joe did her wrong. Is she evil too?
3. It is actually liberating, healing to express and get in touch with one's legitimate anger. It is not morally wrong to hate someone or something that deserves to be hated and dealt with accordingly. In Islam we are taught that to not punish the criminal is to oppress the victim. It is criminal for female parasites such as Beyonce to be enriched and become wealthy by demonizing and reviling the same black males who are buying and listening to her filthy and narcoticizing music.
2. As you so eloquently indicate, we males must evolve beyond outmoded traditional values and practices of "chivalry" and perceiving females as being "morally above reproach." Misandric females are so narcissistic and mercenary that they are virtually socio-pathic in their attitudes and behaviors toward men and boys. After watching your video upload, I actually hate Beyonce and her ilk more than ever before. She is not at all beautiful but a grotesque demon or gargoyle, from the inside out.
1. Thank you for this poignant and informative video. It is cautionary to apprise young males--especially black males--to mature into the reality that "beauty is as beauty does." Your video illustrates how utterly repulsive and disgusting is the evil, diabolical opportunist called Beyonce. Yet, stupidly, many black males are "proud" to claim Beyonce as a paragon of black womanhood.
@FinalJusticeMovement 1. Yes, my good, good brother. This looks like the beginning of a beautiful friendship! Many of these females are mere gadflys who have no true convictions, principles, or character. These shallow females are simply egocentric narcissists who pathologically crave constant attention--reminiscent of your keen observation of the phenomenon of those females who demand of men "woman worship."
@FinalJusticeMovement 2. These shallow females are like chameleons who will lean in the direction of the most dominant and influential entity; be they black, white, lesbian, misandric, feminist, ad nauseum. This kind of shallowness, when applied to women, is characteristically referred to as her being "fickle." I do not use such benign terms when referring to female character defects. This female you speak of demonstrates that she is an opportunistic parasite.
Your equation for "woman worship" should be a vade mecum for males when introspecting about our own socialization processes, in the Western World, relative to women; our motives, perceptions, and preferences relative to our choice in women; our relative evaluation of ourselves when interacting with women; whether our notions of beauty are endogenous or derived from an agency outside of ourselves and pristine African culture; and are the cultural imperatives conducive to self-love or self-hate?
what in the world is this video trying to prove? Beyonce is a singing star that often flees from reality. You sing songs to make money and entertain. That's it man, what does it have to do with Oscar Grant? Find yourself a ride to the other side.
I must say that I do like the other video you posted, but here, I have to disagree with you, because this is propaganda. Beyonce has nothing to do with the tragedy of black males, nor men in general. Also, her music, at least from what I've listened to, did not advocate or promote hatred towards men. I disagree with you view here.
@FinalJusticeMovement As a musician, songwriter, and poet, and as someone who has done some studying on the music industry, observed artists in media, read articles about famous artists, and have even used the "Songwriter's Market" with other publications, I am well informed about artists and how they express themselves through their songs. To rebuttal your message about Beyonce, I'll give an example of Eminem, who made songs about fat women and his baby's mom. What's your opinion about Eminem?
@FinalJusticeMovement I do agree that artists' lyrics are not always the best when it comes to expression and sending out messages, but I do know that art and music are ways of expressing one's hurt and painful experiences. Now, many may feel negative about Beyonce's songs, but like all other artist rappers, they rap about things they've experienced and seen. Music does contain subliminal messages, but don't ditch the cow because you drank 1 glass of spoiled milk. Just buy a new carton of milk.
As much as I support the Final Justice channel, I do have to disagree with a few things. The feminist movement allows a lot of women to get away with being snobs, but there are women who have been brutalized by cops, and pays child support. I saw a vid on World's Wildest Police Videos. A cop pulled a female driver over, shoved her to the ground, sat on her, and then hauled her into the squad car. Maybe women do not suffer this abuse as much as men, but it happens regardless.
@FinalJusticeMovement It's not extremely rare because I think of Muslim and Christian women in third world countries who suffer abuse by police officials under the corrupt Sharia Law. Men suffer, too, but not as horridly as their women. Women are prime suspects to abuse in the middle east. We don't see this in America as much, but you can't ignore the fact that women (no matter where) do experience police brutality. I'm sorry, but maybe I subscribed to your page too soon....
@FinalJusticeMovement I'm not a fan of her at all. Please don't get it twisted. All I'm saying in a nutshell is this: women DO experience police harassment, probably not as much here in the U.S., but it happens, and it is not 'extremely' rare. I know that men take on harsher punishments than women. I suppose it is because men are stronger; therefore, chastised differently. It doesn't take much to hurt a woman. I'm confused about what your purpose is. Do u just want equal rights?
@FinalJusticeMovement Also, if a woman places herself in a man's position, then she shouldn't get surprised when she gets man-handled. But I'm still confused about what your purpose really is.
@FinalJusticeMovement Ok, but what does men dying of natural causes have to do with women? If it's natural, then so be it, and the construction field is predominately male to begin with. Men are natural hard workers--they are built tough, and sorry, but one strong woman does not mean that all of us women are as powerful as men. I officially don't know what the purpose of this movement is anymore. In all honesty, you are starting to sound like a sexist...just not as extreme. Good bye, sir.
R.I.P. Oscar Grant... Much respect to his family, to the beautiful wife and daughter he left behind, and believe me, this crime won't go unpunished, These misandrists will pay for taking his life, and Beyonce ain't to far exempt for putting this hate speech out either.
Beyonce and her music is garbage. But In all reality she is a mind control slave who puts out music that the Marxist Feminazi industry wants her to put out and she does so without question because it puts money in her pockets, and she doesn't even write her own lyrics at best, even if the bitch claims she does, it's pretty obvious she is a farce. She is an actress in every sense of the word put out there to distract and decieve people.
@ssn708 well put. Where there is no scandal in a story, theatrical individuals like to create one. People need to accept that this was a tragic accident brought on by lack of training and experience. If you are after the truth, think critically without emotion and this is clearly the case. My heart goes out to the family.
@FinalJusticeMovement Of course. I've seen many of his family members on the news and they seem like good people. Their son was a shit disturber but I'm sure they loved him. Sorry if my sympathy for them doesn't connect with the stereotype that you have developed for me and my evil objectivity.
@FinalJusticeMovement Oscar Grant was neither "murdered" nor "executed. He did not deserve to die, Mehserle's actions were criminally negligent, but it was not murder. You left out violent career criminal in your description of him. Had he simply not assaulted someone on the train, not assaulted 2 officers, not resisted arrest, he would have gone home instead of a morgue. Sad, but very, very true.
And while we're on the subject of why a certain possibly misandric song is so popular, would you care to explain to me why Lil Wayne's song Lolipop is so popular?
Good question, Hannah. Lil' Wayne's song "Lollipop" is POP-ular for a number of reasons. 1) Women love sex. 2) Women love to talk about, dress like, or be involved with anything to do with sex (especially since they are more sexual than men) 3) Women have the strongest buying power, especially when it comes down to anything that has to do with... 4)... men of power who otherwise turn them on 5) Women love Lil' Wayne. 6) Lil' Wayne's success is driven by the same industry that made Beyonce. --FJ
@FinalJusticeMovement Sorry, I disagree. 1) Men love to portray women as sex objects. 2) Men are obsessed with sex. 3) The song is about women being used as nothing more than a sexual object to the man. 4) Men enjoy degrading women by using them as sexual objects. Face it, mate. Men are more likely to be sexually obsessed than women. At least females can hide it and control it, instead of disrespecting everyone. You seem to think that men can do no wrong, and if they do, it's because of women...
No, Hannah. I'm just pointing out realities. Of course, men do wrong, and there are many male fans of Lil' Wayne out there, but aside from some of YOUR fellow peoples, you're NOT going to find them drooling all over him and singing "Lollipop". Secondly, you're wrong (as almost always). Women and men get EQUALLY sexually obsessed. And men (speaking GENERALLY, now) don't "enjoy" making sexual objects out of women. In fact, it's quite the opposite, for I don't see MEN shopping VS in droves! --FJ
@FinalJusticeMovement "YOUR fellow peoples" How are my fellow peoples sex obsessed men? What is nearly every rap song about? Sex and money. Getting girls. "Women and men get EQUALLY sexually obssessed" Obviously not. They obviously DO enjoy it, or else they wouldn't make them out to be sexual objects so much.
@FinalJusticeMovement By "people are people" I mean we're all in this together. Of COURSE I have compassion for any soul in pain. I do everything I can to make the world a better place by setting a kind example. Are you saying the rights of millions who's orientation you do not understand are less important than the rights of one man you can personally identify with? Morality is subjective. Love all of your brothers and sisters (granted not all are savory) as you love yourself.
why do u have two completley different subjects that have nothing to do with each other throughout this whole video... i dont get it.. and i must say i disagree with you.... and why would beyoncay acknoledge this guys murder... people get murdered, ALL THE TIME.
@FinalJusticeMovement ..yes.. I dont care about humanity, I dont care about people RIGHTS and such.... fo course its a tragedy when people die! but in all seriousness, we cant stop for everysingle murder and death in the world. I dont know HOW u got THAT out of my message because the message you recieved was deffinitly not what i intended what i mean is like what i said, we cant stop for ALL deaths. And also u just turned this argument on its head, which is a poor poor way to debate
So, then you agree that we should quit pining over Matthew Shepard, right, Trevor? (For crying out loud, he was not even a hate-crime victim.) Trevor, you took a VERY serious subject matter and spat in the face of this man's family, woman, and child, not to mention fathers all around the globe who lost their lives to unprovoked police brutality and murder, AND FOR WHAT? To SPITE ME and this Movement... in the name of homosexualism? Ohhh, Trevor... You wretched desecration of humanity... --FJ
@FinalJusticeMovement ... your the one using this mans death to further your own blasphoumos agenda, so who really is the one disrespecting this family? your taking what im saying and completly taking it out of context to make me look like a douche.. im obviously against police burtality and i DO NOT disrespect people who are mudered, why the hell are you trying to make it sound like i do?
OF COURSE you don't get it, Trevor. PAY ATTENTION to the video, do some research on every point that was made here, find a central point in your body (I don't think a heart is applicable in this case) where you have SOME sort of regard for the beauty of creation and the importance of human life and maybe you'll get it. Until then, I suggest you save up for one of Richard Branson's trips to outer space, because out there in the far reaches of the universe, you may actually find your balls. -FJ
This wouldn't sound so goddamn cheesy if you had a higher quality microphone recording your lame attempts to use a brooding, lower voice. Whether this is for real or for a laugh, it fails. I only see it as a narrator's poor performance.
You know, you talk a lot of trash for someone who has never produced a video, nor has the remote talent or fortitude to do so. Are you jealous of my NATURALLY brooding low voice? Does it excite you? You wouldn't sound so cheesy if you didn't sound like a childish imp. YOU fail as an existence on earth. When YOU get murdered by the police for no reason, perhaps I'll lend my voice to your eulogy. (right after I defecate in your casket). Long live Oscar Grant! -The Final Justice
I don't get this video at all. You are linking things that have no connection whatsoever, and pull things out of thin air. "If I Were A Boy" isn't about ALL boys, just about certain boys. It's not about Oscar Grant.
If you PAID ATTENTION to the song, "If I Were A Boy", you would have realized that it was both a direct attack on the entire male gender using stereotypes to justify its misandry and it was also a declaration of female supremacy ("I'd swear I'd be a better man...", "You don't care how it hurts...", "..but you're just a boy"). If Beyonce were a boy, she couldn't get away with 1/10th the things she can as a female and she would NOT be immune to incarceration, police brutality, or death. --FJ
@FinalJusticeMovement Regardless of whether that's true or not, it still has nothing to do with Oscar Grant's unfortunate death. I'm just pointing out the weird structure of this video, is all.
It has EVERYTHING to do with the death of not only Oscar Grant, but also Mikal Middleton-Bey, whose wife sat on and killed him, and ended up getting away with murder just like Grant's killer just did. It's legal for police to kill young men (especially African men) and it's legal for a woman to injure or kill a man. Do you really think that Beyonce would ever trade places with any of these men who did nothing but love the women they were with and died in vain just the same? Would YOU? --FJ
@FinalJusticeMovement Yeah, and while you're talking about that, why don't you tell everyone about how men are pulled over by the police much more often, anyway and how they make up for a vast majority of crimes including domestic abuse and rape? Not to say that females aren't involved in it. But don't pretend like males don't commit it much more often.
@FinalJusticeMovement And not their own sexually obsessed fault. You seem to like to shove all male mistakes off onto women, and blame them for the fact that they often act like pigs if anything with tits walks by. Sorry, shirking blame isn't going to work. Accept it. Also, are you ever going to answer those comments, or are you still pretending like they don't exist?
This is NOT about shirking blame, because ALL of us are to blame for our respective culapbilities. And I ALWAYS point out that sexually-obsessed men are at fault for tolerating female nonsense. They protect their sisters and nieces and mothers and aunts and girlfriends FASTER and more often than they will protect their nephews, fathers, uncles, and (older) brothers and often go to jail for it, while most of those same relatives and especially girlfriends WILL NEVER DO THE SAME for them. --FJ
@FinalJusticeMovement FinalJustice, you need to realize something. Men are physically stronger than women. It's a sad fact. How quickly do you think a women will be hospitalized if she tries to defend her man in a bar against another man? It is instinctual for men to protect women. I don't know why that bothers you so much. Men are also more physically attentive than women. They like and want sex more. It's just the way nature works. Women trade sex for love and protection.
@FinalJusticeMovement I didn't say there are no piggish women. There are, but the sad fact is, there are more piggish men than there are women, and that is not the fault of women, but men themselves. Back to the nature thing; don't twist my words. That is merely the basics of how the male/female dynamic works. As we have evolved, it's more of a women trade sex for love and protection, and men trade love and protection for love and sex, as we have evolved.
@FinalJusticeMovement You said that females NEVER experienced police brutality. I'm not denying that men have been beaten by police men but saying females haven't been victims of police brutality is FALSE!
@Gabster1990 They certainly have. The quote was from FinalDenialMovement. He seems to think that women are exempt from injustice and brutality. He is also clearly ignorant of human history and the almost continuous oppression of women in virtually all situations in virtually all societies.
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He also seems to think that this is a statistical issue and that his invented numbers prove his paranoid fantasy of marauding manhaters.
@Noisegator I agree. I'm not a man hater and I agree with things that affect males in today's world. But there can't be denial in discrimination that affects both sexes.
@Gabster1990 Exactly. Both genders have been experienced discrimination and as long as we play the game of who got hurt more, people will continue to get hurt. Justice cannot be only for one gender or only defined by one gender. I think we are getting to a place of balance and fairness and that's why I find the rhetoric of people like FJM so disruptive and damaging. Have a little patience.
Poor fool. Gator...It's really sad, pathetic, low, and ultimately telling when you feel the need to be sly in throwing barbs at me while trying to make yourself look more lighthearted by making a lame attempt at false nobility. It doesn't work, it doesn't fly, and you're still phony and disingenuous. Justice CANNOT be only for one gender and that's EXACTLY the point we convey. But YOU do NOT adhere to the tenets of true gender equality, nor do you advocate it as we do. Change of heart? --FJ
@FinalJusticeMovement Me have a change of heart about your paranoid babbling's? No. You are way out to lunch. You are trying to make out that men are the only real victims of brutality and oppression. That's plain bullshit.
Ok Jigsaw, I fail to see how ad hominem attacks on Beyonce advance your agenda, this entire video is bullshit... Straight out of 4chan, obvious troll is obvious.
My answer to, "Are you pondering what I'm pondering?" is that I'm not sure. If you're thinking that Oscar Grant should be alive and with his family today, and that what happened to him is a miscarriage of justice & an absolute TRAGEDY, then yes we're thinking the same thing.
If you're thinking that if Beyonce actually WERE a boy then she would be fair game for the kind of injustice that Oscar Grant suffered then I guess I can't go there with you. I think one injustice does not sanction another.
Oh, and to add to that, she was never singing about knowing what it's like to be a man. She was singing about how she would spend her life IF she were a man. What she would do IF she were a man and so on.
@FJM okay, I think I understand you're point of view. My final question: why do you take so much offense to an issue that you created yourself? Why bother? I sincerely doubt that Beyonce has even heard a word your saying... So I guess my real question is,... What's the point?
@FJM ... Well, ... I suppose... No. It still doesn't make sense to me... And I should think that Beyonce wouldn't respond about such a thing... I mean it's not like Oscar's death really had to do with her personally, and she has her own life to live too. I mean, it doesn't make any sense that she would make any statement at all. It had nothing to do with her life! Another question, what exactly is the "immense pain and worse" that men go through that women have not experienced?
... I have no words... It was so... I can't even describe how horrified (and not to mention, confused) I felt during the video. I don't understand something though, if you would be so kind as to clear it up... What exactly is the point between Beyonce and the accidental and totally unintentional (as it appeared) death of Oscar III? Please reply quickly, I really am quite curious...
the problem with this world today is that anything that has to do with male hating and male bashing is good that's why beyonce's "if I were I boy" is a hit because her lyrics are all about male hating.
you said at the end silence is not an option,you damn right it's not,we men should come together to stop crap like this.
If you noticed, I said that B.C. Jean has managed to get a LOT of blood on her hands in regards to this.
Not taking away from that, B.C. actually never released (or recorded) her version of this song until after Beyonce's version became a hit. Most people don't know of or even acknowledge B.C. Jean in regards to this song.
The fact of the matter is -- remake or not -- Beyonce The Beast was the MESSENGER who CHOSE to take this hate message worldwide.
This is a good video and I totally agree that what has happened to that man was savage and racist.
BUT..
To blame Beyonce or any other celebrity for any kind of unjust situations that happen to the average Joe black man is almost illogical. These celebrities are just in it for the money. It is our fault that people like Beyonce are making millions and allowed to sing about certain issues. Her"eccentric"music is what sells. Is it her obligation to acknowledge what happened to Oscar?Not really.
In case you're not paying attention, Beyonce is a MAJOR FIGURE who had MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of women bopping their heads and otherwise crying false tears about an issue SHE HAS NO IDEA ABOUT!
She (and the writer B.C. Jean) made a DIRECT claim that "boys" are evil, as if they were definitive experts on the LIVES of men.
You mean to tell me that less than TWO months after she comes out with this filth, she can't acknowledge at least one "boy"?
Had to watch this vid again and I'm reminded of how slick women can be and it just makes me wonder do they know what they're doing to their future with the stuff they pull? I don't "fink" so!
I think I've seen whatever vids you posted but I'll subscribe to see if I missed any. We as men though, and I'm headed toward my mid 40s, are slowly but surely doing things about it. If you look here on YouTube you'll see. We have websites, some of us express ourselves on internet radio, and even some us instituted the "Wall Of Silence" meaning that we're through talking to these trolls because they won't change their minds and we ain't gon waste our time doing so.
What the media says about the genders is a lie. The clause "Respect women." implies female superiority. Female superiority is a blight on mankind. I demand an end to misandric media. I am outraged at how the media portrays men. I am outraged that the media encourages female superiority.
Political correctness, mass media brainwashing. Repeated and enforced. Its mind control. If they can control what you say, they can control what you think.
Yes, I have a clear vision of the situation. Some of the message boards I attended are too politically correct. I hate when people, especially authority figures, control what I say and what I think. Information control and mind control are characteristic of a cult.
Well, I'm glad to see you haven't changed. You still think I'm either gay or female (which is it this time, by the way?)
I can guess because "she's spreading hate and dominion over men by women!" so we should fantasize about shooting her, right? And Irreplaceable is unfair because she's kicking him out over an affair.
Jeez, it's nothing but relationships and commitment issues, and you expect someone who sings songs as shallow as "Single Ladies" to acknowledge a murder?
The fact that Beyonce had the nerve to record "If I Were A Boy" which boasts/suggests that women know what it's like to live as a man and that men don't understand women or know how to love women.
This video debunks that destructive ill-conceived notion hands-down, challenges Beyonce (and writer BC Jean) to live up to such claims in her song and basically says that THEY DON'T KNOW JACK S#!> about being a male... PERIOD!
Did you stop to think maybe she got help from her husband, Jay-Z? And from what I remember she sang songs like "Halo" and "Ego" and "Cater to You" which talk about her appreciation and affection for men.
Beyonce never really sang about family, just relationships so I really don't think your argument should apply to her. Jeez, who's next, Miley Cyrus for making teenage girls force their daddies to buy Disney products?
Pointless complaints over the insecurity of your manhood XD
Beyonce is a disgrace and the most man-hating monger in pop culture. It goes back to the days of Destiny's Child.
I don't care if she does some moderate cuts like Halo, the damage is done. As she ages ungracefully, we will see the karma exact a fitting revenge on her and her career.
I think she makes them songz because she has been threw that at one point.. at one point she prply thought all men were dogz and she's showing us thru songz.. I don't think she will have an impact on how women feel about men.. 2nd off Beyonce has more "praiseing men" songz then downing men..Halo,Ego,Crazy In Love, Dangerously in Love, Cater 2 you,Satalites,& single ladies does not bash men.. It's actully talking about sex b4 marriage
The average man has been through more heartbreak in periodic 5-minute intervals than five teenage girls have ever experienced in their lifetime combined. You don't hear any one of them throwing derision at THE ENTIRE FEMALE GENDER in music.
As far as "Single Ladies" is concerned, it is a propaganda tool to pressure men into marriage. This is because she knows that marriage doesn't benefit men as it does women, who will more than likely seek to divorce him for kids and cash.
Well, in all actuality, when you look at the lyrical scope of TODAY'S Rap (which is clearly distinctive in content from what people would come to know as Hip-Hop), there tends to be more of it in THIS time than in earlier generations.
But you must consider this, Albop:
Would you rather a man GENUINELY compliment you or call you a "worthless c**t" for absolutely no reason?
If you are intimate with a man, would you rather him "talk dirty" or "talk you down"?
Kind of a stupid question, with respect. Of course a woman would ratehr be genuinely complimented. I know that it is terrible men are called worthless for no reason - I'm not one fo those women who think of men that way. So you are preaching to the converted. I just don't think its as one sided as you say. Its grey everywhere... no black and white unfortunately. Women are being manipulated too, just in different ways. its how we are controlled by government.
Exactly! You said it all TOO perfectly. It's all grey matter now.
Thje point behind my question is that although the female image IS marketed, manipulated, and sexualized for the masses, it is not primarily men who is making this happen, and it never was.
It was always BOTH men and women, and guess what? -- It could never happen without the conscious participation of women! If those select women were emancipated and dignified enough, female "sexploitation" wouldn't exist!
Yeah, this is the sad thing. But then in the bellydance world, it is filled with women making it hard for other women. It has alwyas been beyond me. I have always found men to be generally more straightforward than women (on the whole). The trouble is, the women allowing the sexualisation of everything now are doing so because they do actually think it is liberating to behave like a slut. I don't really get it personally. and there are allt hose teen girls otu there parroting it.
Hey FJM! I read the first 20 comments and I say you're right about Beyonce. After what her and her father did to those two or three singers they had with them and them going to a trio I had a disdain for them ever since. Other vids about her points to her being demonic. Check out OrangeMoon82's or Ainesis3's vid on her and see whatcha think?
Wrong. Beyonce's lyrics have been mostly anti-male since the days of Destiny's Child. Give a listen to them before you speak from a position of ignorance. Of course, an apologist for misandry would dismiss all that since she can shake a booty on camera well.
You say she was "most known" for hating men, which is highly incorrect. When you ask someone who Beyonce, they'd most likely say she's someone who sings.
Ask any CONSCIOUS person about Beyonce, that person (especially if it's a man) will tell you the same thing I'm telling you.
In fact, many of them will link "Bills, Bills, Bills" to "No Scrubs" by TLC. Both songs were written by a male producer (for the music) and a former member of Xscape (for the lyrics), who is currently starring in a new reality show. Go figure.
I don't see how the death has anything to do with Beyonce. It seems like you just stuck the death parts on there carelessly. He might have had personal problems, also maybe like Beyonce having personal problems with men.
By the way, there is no point to this video. Anyone who supports this would comment "I agree blah blah blah", and it would hardly change other peoples' opinions. Beyonce's music is for entertainment.
Watch the video again and LISTEN CAREFULLY, Bacon.
This video demonstrates a contrast between Beyonce's song "If I Were A Boy" which spouts stereotypical, stigmatic assumptions of manhood with the REAL LIFE of a REAL, ACTUAL MAN.
Beyonce's music IS entertainment. It's also PROPAGANDA that permeates the way people live out their lives, which in this case is for the purpose of conflict!
I know all of the words to the song and I don't think she was talking about bringing brothas down at all. I think she was pointing to the double standard in society that if a man has more than one love interest, that he is looked upon as a hero of sorts. She tried to flip the script saying that if she cheated or acted like some disrespectful men, she wouldn't have to face any a consequences.
Oscar (RIP) wouldn't have been the boy she was talking about in the song. That song is more..
There is a double-standard when it comes to infidelity... and it FAVORS the WOMAN!
Try finding any song out there that calls out a cheating woman on her behavior. Even in country music today, you'll find more songs that praise women than those that chastise them.
Plus, NO ONE looks to the man as a "hero" if he cheats on his lady, but if a woman cheats, she's "emancipated". ("You go, girl"). Moreover, women in general often DON'T have to face consequences for her transgressions.
I respectfully disagree with you, FJM, I have never been on the end of telling a female "You Go GIrl" when it comes to sistas cheating on their mates. It's a punk move all the way around. I know that I can't change the minds of people around me who do things like that so I remain neutral.
Also, a man who cheats is looked upon with other like-minded men (not all men) as a god and the phrase "boys will be boys" often rears it's head. No doubt there are women who cheat on their husbands
lovers and significant others and they are DIRTY for that. The thing is that the double standard has always leaned toward the man being the hero to other men when he does it. Instead of people seeing it as BOTH parties who participate in cheating on their lovers as WRONG.
AQ, I think you've misunderstood the social concept of sex when it comes to men and women.
Men MAY consider their fellow male friend a "god" as it were, for his ABILITY TO CONNECT WITH and/or HAVE SEX WITH as many women as he can. This MAY OR MAY NOT include whether that man is in a relationship or not, but in these cases, that's a moot point.
But when it comes to a man who KNOWS his friend IS violating a solid relationship, more often than not, he won't praise him for THAT.
In that comment you basically drew the line between Men and boys. A man would not look at his friend as a god if he were cheating on a girlfriend OR a wife. A boy looks up to another 'boy' for his sexual conquests. There are some women who act the same way.
There are MANY, MANY, MANY women who act that same way... more so than you think, and even more so than the men, going back to when i mentioned that women are more sexual than men are.
Also, the first part of the comment YOU left clearly demonstrates the double-standard that exists between mature males and females.
Grown men aalways have to "prove how much of a man they are in society for WHATEVER he may or may not do, while the womanhood of childish females is NEVER QUESTIONED!
Actually, the womanhood of childish females ARE questioned. OFTEN especially in the days of Youtube. lol I cant' STAND a childish woman either. There are even OTHER black women on youtube asking those questions.
I'm not an authority on who does what how often. I try not to generalize I'll just say that there are women who do the same thing that some men do.
It is only BECAUSE of the advent of YouTube, where the PEOPLE actually get to voice their opinions freely, that we can finally hear from the REAL women who know the real deal and question other females who needed to be addressed probably ever since birth.
Yup, i'd definitely say women ar emore sexual than men. and guess what - the greeks said it too. 'more carnally voracious and sexually dangerous than men' - i think was the jist of what they said. For my entire adult life i've wondered why men are considered to be sex mad when i've rarely seen evidence for it. Only one boyfriend I had was 'sex mad'. I think the suppression of sexuality by religions has not helped that - trouble is women have over the years started using sex to bargain at home.
Im not understanding how that statement makes her even more of a "man-hater".
And Neyo mentioned that he wrote every word to that song and she only changed the melody (that's besides the point though because it's still her singing it).
Either way, I don't actually think she's a "man-hater". Just as she has negative songs about men she has positive ones. I think it's just strictly entertainment.
Strictly entertainment???? I beg to differ, Kiera.
Why is it that when Beyonce sings anti-male attack songs FOR 11 YEARS, it's only entertainment, while THE ENTIRE CATEGORY OF HIP-HOP (AND ALL ITS MALE PARTICIPANTS) is consistently classified as and accused of being mysogynistic??? WHY?
Don't forget that entertainment is a conditioning tool with the purpose of causing mass societal conflict. And that's what Beyonce is deliberately and unapologetically contributing to.
...Beyonce is married. If she hated black men she wouldn't have married one. As far as I can tell, those songs you listed are about haters (female and male) and bad men. How about the songs she wrote / performed praising black men?
Dangerously In Love
Cater to You
Sweet Dreams
Ego
*I am a sometimey Beyonce fan and think she's self-grandising sometimes...lol But I dont' think she hates black men. If she did she would have pulled a Blakebarbiedoll, downing them at ever turn.*
I'm pondering what the murder of Oscar Grant has to do with Beyonce. This young man's murder at the hands of police is certainly a terrible tragedy, but you seem to be much more pissed off at Beyonce than the cop(s) responsible. I have never heard a word about how Beyonce hates all men. What about Taylor Swift? Do you hate her, too? She wrote a not so nice song about how Joe Jonas broke up with her over the phone. She told many people how Joe did her wrong. Is she evil too?
TIMOTHYSAARINEN 4 months ago
Tim,
I think it's about time you started PAYING ATTENTION to the content
of the video and taking the matters we speak of VERY SERIOUSLY.
From 1998 up until just recently with her fem-supremacist declaration
"Run The World (Girls)" a few months ago, Beyonce has proven herself
to be the mother of musical misandry. Taylor Swift (who interestingly
enough was hyped up in the name of Beyonce) has NOTHING on her.
As far as her new song, I will look into just how much of B's example
she's followed
-FJ
FinalJusticeMovement 4 months ago
I just realized that Oscar Grant would've been the same age as me.
A lot of BW just don't care because his girlfriend was latina.
TheTruthBearer1 11 months ago
3. It is actually liberating, healing to express and get in touch with one's legitimate anger. It is not morally wrong to hate someone or something that deserves to be hated and dealt with accordingly. In Islam we are taught that to not punish the criminal is to oppress the victim. It is criminal for female parasites such as Beyonce to be enriched and become wealthy by demonizing and reviling the same black males who are buying and listening to her filthy and narcoticizing music.
salahudeenabduladl 11 months ago
2. As you so eloquently indicate, we males must evolve beyond outmoded traditional values and practices of "chivalry" and perceiving females as being "morally above reproach." Misandric females are so narcissistic and mercenary that they are virtually socio-pathic in their attitudes and behaviors toward men and boys. After watching your video upload, I actually hate Beyonce and her ilk more than ever before. She is not at all beautiful but a grotesque demon or gargoyle, from the inside out.
salahudeenabduladl 11 months ago 4
1. Thank you for this poignant and informative video. It is cautionary to apprise young males--especially black males--to mature into the reality that "beauty is as beauty does." Your video illustrates how utterly repulsive and disgusting is the evil, diabolical opportunist called Beyonce. Yet, stupidly, many black males are "proud" to claim Beyonce as a paragon of black womanhood.
salahudeenabduladl 11 months ago
SALAHUDEEN:
"...stupidly, many black males are "proud" to claim Beyonce
as a paragon of black womanhood."
Lack of self-esteem + lack of awareness + worldwide standardization of
woman-as-first-essence-of-beauty = woman worship. Nothing more.
Thanks for the good word. Spread it around.
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 11 months ago
@FinalJusticeMovement Will do, bro. Keep up the good work!
salahudeenabduladl 11 months ago
My pleasure.
I mean, if only you could imagine how many people JUST DIDN'T GET IT.
Check the comments and you'll notice a lady who first acts like she agrees
with our position but then flips the script here and later reveals herself on
our main channel profile for the true socialized sexist drone she truly is.
Sad, isn't it.
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 11 months ago
@FinalJusticeMovement 1. Yes, my good, good brother. This looks like the beginning of a beautiful friendship! Many of these females are mere gadflys who have no true convictions, principles, or character. These shallow females are simply egocentric narcissists who pathologically crave constant attention--reminiscent of your keen observation of the phenomenon of those females who demand of men "woman worship."
salahudeenabduladl 11 months ago
@FinalJusticeMovement 2. These shallow females are like chameleons who will lean in the direction of the most dominant and influential entity; be they black, white, lesbian, misandric, feminist, ad nauseum. This kind of shallowness, when applied to women, is characteristically referred to as her being "fickle." I do not use such benign terms when referring to female character defects. This female you speak of demonstrates that she is an opportunistic parasite.
salahudeenabduladl 11 months ago
Your equation for "woman worship" should be a vade mecum for males when introspecting about our own socialization processes, in the Western World, relative to women; our motives, perceptions, and preferences relative to our choice in women; our relative evaluation of ourselves when interacting with women; whether our notions of beauty are endogenous or derived from an agency outside of ourselves and pristine African culture; and are the cultural imperatives conducive to self-love or self-hate?
salahudeenabduladl 11 months ago
HELLO BEYONCE KNOWLES, I'D LIKE TO PLAY A GAME...
mellowbellows 1 year ago
what in the world is this video trying to prove? Beyonce is a singing star that often flees from reality. You sing songs to make money and entertain. That's it man, what does it have to do with Oscar Grant? Find yourself a ride to the other side.
truthtone58 1 year ago 2
I've been to the other side. my friend, and it's not my cup of tea.
Today, Tone, we're going to find YOU a ride to the TRUTH side!
Beyonce is a fem-supremacist who spreads her message of male hatred
through music.. Pay attention to the video! She recorded a song called "If I
Were A Boy" and the question is -- IF Beyonce were a boy, would she ever
experience what men experience day after day after day?
I can guarantee that even YOU would give us the answer of "NO!"
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
See, the point is that the aim of feminism is to marginalize and then
destroy the male gender, which, in turn, will destroy humanity.
There should be NO PICKING AND CHOOSING which gender
suffers more or less abuse. NO ONE should ever be abused
or violated in ANY instance! Hopefully, you understand where
we're coming from now, Fury. Remember, haste makes waste.
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
I must say that I do like the other video you posted, but here, I have to disagree with you, because this is propaganda. Beyonce has nothing to do with the tragedy of black males, nor men in general. Also, her music, at least from what I've listened to, did not advocate or promote hatred towards men. I disagree with you view here.
songwriter4artists 1 year ago
I don't know how deeply into the music industry you are,
but you may want to put your industry bias aside for just one second.
The only reason you would THINK that Beyonce has nothing to do with
male tragedy is becausde you have never listened CAREFULLY to her
music. We clearly mention in the video that she was called out on her
anti-male music by another group, and furthermore, MANY OTHER PEOPLE
have drawn the SAME CONCLUSION about Beyonce. Her hatred for men
is NOTHING NEW!
--FJ
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
@FinalJusticeMovement As a musician, songwriter, and poet, and as someone who has done some studying on the music industry, observed artists in media, read articles about famous artists, and have even used the "Songwriter's Market" with other publications, I am well informed about artists and how they express themselves through their songs. To rebuttal your message about Beyonce, I'll give an example of Eminem, who made songs about fat women and his baby's mom. What's your opinion about Eminem?
songwriter4artists 1 year ago
Songwriter, I AM SOOOO GLAD you mentioned Eminem.
Let's take a closer look, shall we?
EMINEM: male Hip-Hop artist, 16 years professionally active
--has been labeled MISOGYNISTIC and AFRAID OF HOMOSEXUALS
for his lyrical content, much of which is humorous and/or satirical in context.
BEYONCE: female R&B diva, 14 years professionally active,
has made numerous attack songs on the male gender, ALL in serious context.
--has NEVER been labeled MISANDRIC by the media or the public.
Get it now?
--FJ
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
Songwriter
Pay close attention to the songs we've mentioned and listen to the LYRICS.
Then please REVIEW this video a few times and PAY CLOSE ATTENTION.
We are drawing a contrast between ANTI-MALE PROPAGANDA in music
and anti-male attitudes in real life.
The song is called "If I Were A Boy", and we're asking the question
"What if Beyonce were a boy?". Would she sing the same tune if
she knew how much men sacrifice their lives for women such as she
who HATE their very guts?
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
@FinalJusticeMovement I do agree that artists' lyrics are not always the best when it comes to expression and sending out messages, but I do know that art and music are ways of expressing one's hurt and painful experiences. Now, many may feel negative about Beyonce's songs, but like all other artist rappers, they rap about things they've experienced and seen. Music does contain subliminal messages, but don't ditch the cow because you drank 1 glass of spoiled milk. Just buy a new carton of milk.
songwriter4artists 1 year ago
As much as I support the Final Justice channel, I do have to disagree with a few things. The feminist movement allows a lot of women to get away with being snobs, but there are women who have been brutalized by cops, and pays child support. I saw a vid on World's Wildest Police Videos. A cop pulled a female driver over, shoved her to the ground, sat on her, and then hauled her into the squad car. Maybe women do not suffer this abuse as much as men, but it happens regardless.
XiaoFury 1 year ago
Abuse DOES happen to just about everyone, Fury,
but whatever abuse DOES happen to women at the hands of police
is EXTREMELY RARE whether the reason is justified or not.
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
@FinalJusticeMovement It's not extremely rare because I think of Muslim and Christian women in third world countries who suffer abuse by police officials under the corrupt Sharia Law. Men suffer, too, but not as horridly as their women. Women are prime suspects to abuse in the middle east. We don't see this in America as much, but you can't ignore the fact that women (no matter where) do experience police brutality. I'm sorry, but maybe I subscribed to your page too soon....
XiaoFury 1 year ago
If you just happen to be a Beyonce fan, Fury, you may want to put that bias
aside for just a second. For the record, I WAS only speaking in terms of
America and Westernized nations in particular. I know that there are women
suffering corruption and abuse around the world. The point we're driving
home here is that Beyonce justifies the abuse of MEN around the world!
If men the world over are still killed, tortured, or imprisoned at vastly higher
rates than women, how do women suffer more?
--FJ
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
@FinalJusticeMovement I'm not a fan of her at all. Please don't get it twisted. All I'm saying in a nutshell is this: women DO experience police harassment, probably not as much here in the U.S., but it happens, and it is not 'extremely' rare. I know that men take on harsher punishments than women. I suppose it is because men are stronger; therefore, chastised differently. It doesn't take much to hurt a woman. I'm confused about what your purpose is. Do u just want equal rights?
XiaoFury 1 year ago
@FinalJusticeMovement Also, if a woman places herself in a man's position, then she shouldn't get surprised when she gets man-handled. But I'm still confused about what your purpose really is.
XiaoFury 1 year ago
Yes, Fury,
You are correct on BOTH counts. However, I must make it known
that men die more often than women from ALL causes of death
(including natural causes), and there are almost no female workplace
deaths, especially involving construction. As far as "strength" is
concerned, you may want to consider the case of Mia Landingham,
a lady who used her weight to crush and KILL her husband and father
of her three children. Do we want equal rights?... YES!... E Q U A L !!!
--The Final Justice
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FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
@FinalJusticeMovement Ok, but what does men dying of natural causes have to do with women? If it's natural, then so be it, and the construction field is predominately male to begin with. Men are natural hard workers--they are built tough, and sorry, but one strong woman does not mean that all of us women are as powerful as men. I officially don't know what the purpose of this movement is anymore. In all honesty, you are starting to sound like a sexist...just not as extreme. Good bye, sir.
XiaoFury 1 year ago
We are a DIFFERENT kind of movement, Fury.
We are the ANTITHESIS of the feminist movement you claimed to criticize
w good while back. If I sound like a sexist to you, it is ONLY because you
are taking my words PERSONALLY as to say I am attacking YOU as a
female with my harsh criticism of SEXISM in general, and because for YEARS,
you thought that sexism ONLY APPLIED to men against women.
Final Justice is about burning the lies.
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
The fact remains, Fury,
that MANY WOMEN OUT THERE are physically strong and/or tough
and can inflict pain as well as take it. It doesn't necessarily make them any
less of a female than they were when they were born.
Unfortunately, it is their GENDER that allows them to get away with MURDER
the way Mia Landingham did. Now, do you honestly think that a BIG MAN
would have got PROBATION and NO JAIL TIME for doing the SAME THING
to his wife/girlfriend and mom of HIS three kids?
-The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
Beyonce is part of something more sinister than feminism. Just ask her demonic possessed husband, Jay-z.
XiaoFury 1 year ago
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XiaoFury 1 year ago
R.I.P. Oscar Grant... Much respect to his family, to the beautiful wife and daughter he left behind, and believe me, this crime won't go unpunished, These misandrists will pay for taking his life, and Beyonce ain't to far exempt for putting this hate speech out either.
SimplyRich2060 1 year ago 2
Beyonce and her music is garbage. But In all reality she is a mind control slave who puts out music that the Marxist Feminazi industry wants her to put out and she does so without question because it puts money in her pockets, and she doesn't even write her own lyrics at best, even if the bitch claims she does, it's pretty obvious she is a farce. She is an actress in every sense of the word put out there to distract and decieve people.
SimplyRich2060 1 year ago
@ssn708 well put. Where there is no scandal in a story, theatrical individuals like to create one. People need to accept that this was a tragic accident brought on by lack of training and experience. If you are after the truth, think critically without emotion and this is clearly the case. My heart goes out to the family.
rcroxyosox1 1 year ago
Does it really, Roxy?
--FJ
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
@FinalJusticeMovement Of course. I've seen many of his family members on the news and they seem like good people. Their son was a shit disturber but I'm sure they loved him. Sorry if my sympathy for them doesn't connect with the stereotype that you have developed for me and my evil objectivity.
rcroxyosox1 1 year ago
@FinalJusticeMovement Oscar Grant was neither "murdered" nor "executed. He did not deserve to die, Mehserle's actions were criminally negligent, but it was not murder. You left out violent career criminal in your description of him. Had he simply not assaulted someone on the train, not assaulted 2 officers, not resisted arrest, he would have gone home instead of a morgue. Sad, but very, very true.
ssn708 1 year ago
Unfortunately, he did NOT make the same
speech to African women on Mother's Day.
There is NO equality in the White House,
PERIOD, and there will never be.
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
And while we're on the subject of why a certain possibly misandric song is so popular, would you care to explain to me why Lil Wayne's song Lolipop is so popular?
Crossedoutheart 1 year ago
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
@FinalJusticeMovement Sorry, I disagree. 1) Men love to portray women as sex objects. 2) Men are obsessed with sex. 3) The song is about women being used as nothing more than a sexual object to the man. 4) Men enjoy degrading women by using them as sexual objects. Face it, mate. Men are more likely to be sexually obsessed than women. At least females can hide it and control it, instead of disrespecting everyone. You seem to think that men can do no wrong, and if they do, it's because of women...
Crossedoutheart 1 year ago
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
@FinalJusticeMovement "YOUR fellow peoples" How are my fellow peoples sex obsessed men? What is nearly every rap song about? Sex and money. Getting girls. "Women and men get EQUALLY sexually obssessed" Obviously not. They obviously DO enjoy it, or else they wouldn't make them out to be sexual objects so much.
Crossedoutheart 1 year ago
Why do you care? Is this satire?
ZenCross1 1 year ago
We don't do satire at FJM, Zen.
And we care... because you don't.
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
@FinalJusticeMovement I don't know, dude, I really think people are just people.
ZenCross1 1 year ago
Be specific on what you mean.
Are you saying you have no compassion
for a young father whose life was cut short
by malicious member of "the law"?
Are you implying that "gay rights" are far more
important than the life of a proud young father
who did no wrong?
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
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ZenCross1 1 year ago
@FinalJusticeMovement By "people are people" I mean we're all in this together. Of COURSE I have compassion for any soul in pain. I do everything I can to make the world a better place by setting a kind example. Are you saying the rights of millions who's orientation you do not understand are less important than the rights of one man you can personally identify with? Morality is subjective. Love all of your brothers and sisters (granted not all are savory) as you love yourself.
ZenCross1 1 year ago
the "banality of evil" hides best behind smiling beautiful faces, and speaks always with sweet notes and the best of god given graces.
knowthingman 1 year ago
Beyotchce is evil. {{-_-}}
Suitsnappy 1 year ago
You claim to be straight, yet you're apparently familiar with the complete works of Beyonce. Suspicious.
PrimusInterInpares 1 year ago
why do u have two completley different subjects that have nothing to do with each other throughout this whole video... i dont get it.. and i must say i disagree with you.... and why would beyoncay acknoledge this guys murder... people get murdered, ALL THE TIME.
Trevor10 1 year ago
RIGHT...
Well, it's obvious you don't care about humanity,
anyway, Trevor. So, maybe if the subject matter
was Matthew Shepard or maybe just your lover,
I can say "HEY! People get murdered ALL THE
TIME! So what?". Maybe we should just piss over
their their respective graves, yes?
Is this your idea of gaining one's respect, Trevor?
Because if so... it's DEFINITELY not working.
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
@FinalJusticeMovement ..yes.. I dont care about humanity, I dont care about people RIGHTS and such.... fo course its a tragedy when people die! but in all seriousness, we cant stop for everysingle murder and death in the world. I dont know HOW u got THAT out of my message because the message you recieved was deffinitly not what i intended what i mean is like what i said, we cant stop for ALL deaths. And also u just turned this argument on its head, which is a poor poor way to debate
Trevor10 1 year ago
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
@FinalJusticeMovement ... your the one using this mans death to further your own blasphoumos agenda, so who really is the one disrespecting this family? your taking what im saying and completly taking it out of context to make me look like a douche.. im obviously against police burtality and i DO NOT disrespect people who are mudered, why the hell are you trying to make it sound like i do?
Trevor10 1 year ago
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
This wouldn't sound so goddamn cheesy if you had a higher quality microphone recording your lame attempts to use a brooding, lower voice. Whether this is for real or for a laugh, it fails. I only see it as a narrator's poor performance.
Mushinronsha3 1 year ago
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
I don't get this video at all. You are linking things that have no connection whatsoever, and pull things out of thin air. "If I Were A Boy" isn't about ALL boys, just about certain boys. It's not about Oscar Grant.
YukiNekoPrincess 1 year ago
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
@FinalJusticeMovement Regardless of whether that's true or not, it still has nothing to do with Oscar Grant's unfortunate death. I'm just pointing out the weird structure of this video, is all.
YukiNekoPrincess 1 year ago
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
"Females NEVER experience police brutality, nor do they face having to pay child support and alimony, nor are they denied any basic human rights."
.
This is a JOKE. Right?
Noisegator 1 year ago 9
Absolutely not.
--FJ
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
@FinalJusticeMovement No, it's a joke, only you don't get it.
Noisegator 1 year ago
@Noisegator Sorry dude but many females have experienced police brutality.
Gabster1990 1 year ago
Name these females who have TRULY experienced
police brutality, Gabster. I can imagine there are
only a select HANDFUL in such a case.
And if you can show or tell me who they are,
answer me the following -- how many of the
MILLIONS of male victims of police brutality
received the same protections in law as the
female victims did.
--The Final Justice
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
@FinalJusticeMovement Yeah, and while you're talking about that, why don't you tell everyone about how men are pulled over by the police much more often, anyway and how they make up for a vast majority of crimes including domestic abuse and rape? Not to say that females aren't involved in it. But don't pretend like males don't commit it much more often.
Crossedoutheart 1 year ago
@FinalJusticeMovement And not their own sexually obsessed fault. You seem to like to shove all male mistakes off onto women, and blame them for the fact that they often act like pigs if anything with tits walks by. Sorry, shirking blame isn't going to work. Accept it. Also, are you ever going to answer those comments, or are you still pretending like they don't exist?
Crossedoutheart 1 year ago
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
@FinalJusticeMovement FinalJustice, you need to realize something. Men are physically stronger than women. It's a sad fact. How quickly do you think a women will be hospitalized if she tries to defend her man in a bar against another man? It is instinctual for men to protect women. I don't know why that bothers you so much. Men are also more physically attentive than women. They like and want sex more. It's just the way nature works. Women trade sex for love and protection.
Crossedoutheart 1 year ago
The real question here, Han, is why do you act
as if piggish WOMEN don't exist?
This is a cold, hard fact that YOU need to accept.
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
@FinalJusticeMovement I didn't say there are no piggish women. There are, but the sad fact is, there are more piggish men than there are women, and that is not the fault of women, but men themselves. Back to the nature thing; don't twist my words. That is merely the basics of how the male/female dynamic works. As we have evolved, it's more of a women trade sex for love and protection, and men trade love and protection for love and sex, as we have evolved.
Crossedoutheart 1 year ago
@FinalJusticeMovement You said that females NEVER experienced police brutality. I'm not denying that men have been beaten by police men but saying females haven't been victims of police brutality is FALSE!
Gabster1990 1 year ago
You still never pointed me to where they are,
nor did you answer any of the questions to the like.
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
@Gabster1990 They certainly have. The quote was from FinalDenialMovement. He seems to think that women are exempt from injustice and brutality. He is also clearly ignorant of human history and the almost continuous oppression of women in virtually all situations in virtually all societies.
.
He also seems to think that this is a statistical issue and that his invented numbers prove his paranoid fantasy of marauding manhaters.
Noisegator 1 year ago
@Noisegator I agree. I'm not a man hater and I agree with things that affect males in today's world. But there can't be denial in discrimination that affects both sexes.
Gabster1990 1 year ago
@Gabster1990 Exactly. Both genders have been experienced discrimination and as long as we play the game of who got hurt more, people will continue to get hurt. Justice cannot be only for one gender or only defined by one gender. I think we are getting to a place of balance and fairness and that's why I find the rhetoric of people like FJM so disruptive and damaging. Have a little patience.
Noisegator 1 year ago
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
@FinalJusticeMovement Me have a change of heart about your paranoid babbling's? No. You are way out to lunch. You are trying to make out that men are the only real victims of brutality and oppression. That's plain bullshit.
Noisegator 1 year ago
Thanks for demonstrating your low attention span
yet once again, Gator.
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@FinalJusticeMovement "Thanks for demonstrating your low attention span yet once again, Gator."
.
No Prob. Hope you were able to keep up this time. Anything you need me to go over again for you?
Noisegator 1 year ago
I fail to see how ad hominem attacks on Beyonce based on logical fallacies provdes anything.
warcraftpoizhan 1 year ago
That's the second 4chan reference I've heard,
and it STILL makes no sense, nor has any validity.
By the way, since when is Beyonce EVER attacked,
much less attacked ad hominem. I suggest you
look up the term before using it.
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
Ok Jigsaw, I fail to see how ad hominem attacks on Beyonce advance your agenda, this entire video is bullshit... Straight out of 4chan, obvious troll is obvious.
warcraftpoizhan 1 year ago
This video is a huge FAIL.
smthcmnl 1 year ago
Smthcmnl is a dumb TROLL.
Explain yourself or wear the eternal dunce cap.
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
My answer to, "Are you pondering what I'm pondering?" is that I'm not sure. If you're thinking that Oscar Grant should be alive and with his family today, and that what happened to him is a miscarriage of justice & an absolute TRAGEDY, then yes we're thinking the same thing.
If you're thinking that if Beyonce actually WERE a boy then she would be fair game for the kind of injustice that Oscar Grant suffered then I guess I can't go there with you. I think one injustice does not sanction another.
2bsirius 1 year ago
thats why you people need to stop listening to this ungodly music.
TheWordManifest 1 year ago
Oh, and to add to that, she was never singing about knowing what it's like to be a man. She was singing about how she would spend her life IF she were a man. What she would do IF she were a man and so on.
Julian
MsJuliShow 1 year ago
@FJM okay, I think I understand you're point of view. My final question: why do you take so much offense to an issue that you created yourself? Why bother? I sincerely doubt that Beyonce has even heard a word your saying... So I guess my real question is,... What's the point?
MsJuliShow 1 year ago
@FJM ... Well, ... I suppose... No. It still doesn't make sense to me... And I should think that Beyonce wouldn't respond about such a thing... I mean it's not like Oscar's death really had to do with her personally, and she has her own life to live too. I mean, it doesn't make any sense that she would make any statement at all. It had nothing to do with her life! Another question, what exactly is the "immense pain and worse" that men go through that women have not experienced?
Julian
MsJuliShow 1 year ago
Let's try it again.
If you're a woman who claims that you know what it's like to
live a boy, why wouldn't you put your money where your mouth
is and TRULY walk a day in his shoes?
Unless you can claim to have experienced societal castigation,
consistent rejection and humiliation, police brutality, mandatory
Selective Service registration, false rape or DV accusation,
then you have NO RIGHT claiming you know what it's like to
live as a man! Get the picture now?
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
... I have no words... It was so... I can't even describe how horrified (and not to mention, confused) I felt during the video. I don't understand something though, if you would be so kind as to clear it up... What exactly is the point between Beyonce and the accidental and totally unintentional (as it appeared) death of Oscar III? Please reply quickly, I really am quite curious...
Julian
MsJuliShow 1 year ago
Here's the deal, Julian.
Beyonce releases the song "If I Were A Boy" in late October 2008,
a song that boldly suggests and blatantly implies that men don't
know emotion or pain, particularly when it comes to relationships.
Yet men experience IMMENSE pain, heartbreak, and WORSE that
women generally NEVER experience.
Oscar Grant just happened to be murdered less than three months
later. So the question is "If Beyonce KNOWS WHAT IT'S LIKE to be
a MAN, would she trade places with THIS man?"
--FJ
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
@FinalJusticeMovement RIP OSCAR GRANT, STAY STRONG GRANT FAM!
artestra 1 year ago
Oh, and by the way, Julian.
Oscar Grant's death WAS intentional
on behalf of the officer who killed him.
And Beyonce STILL hasn't come out and spoken against this
atrocity, which ultimately drove the point home that she has no
love or respect for men and boys.
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
What the fuck has the killing of Oscar Grant got to do with sexism? Can you offer any kind of reasoning or just more bollocks.
23discordians 1 year ago
Well, ask yourself this question, D-23:
Would a police officer ever beat down or kill a female ANYWHERE in America?
If you answered no, then you answered your own question.
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 1 year ago
the problem with this world today is that anything that has to do with male hating and male bashing is good that's why beyonce's "if I were I boy" is a hit because her lyrics are all about male hating.
you said at the end silence is not an option,you damn right it's not,we men should come together to stop crap like this.
gabrielito236 2 years ago 6
do you know beyonce did this song as a remake maybe you should have beef with the writer
disneydiva21 2 years ago
I have MAJOR beef with the writer, Diva.
If you noticed, I said that B.C. Jean has managed to get a LOT of blood on her hands in regards to this.
Not taking away from that, B.C. actually never released (or recorded) her version of this song until after Beyonce's version became a hit. Most people don't know of or even acknowledge B.C. Jean in regards to this song.
The fact of the matter is -- remake or not -- Beyonce The Beast was the MESSENGER who CHOSE to take this hate message worldwide.
-FJ
FinalJusticeMovement 2 years ago
This is a good video and I totally agree that what has happened to that man was savage and racist.
BUT..
To blame Beyonce or any other celebrity for any kind of unjust situations that happen to the average Joe black man is almost illogical. These celebrities are just in it for the money. It is our fault that people like Beyonce are making millions and allowed to sing about certain issues. Her"eccentric"music is what sells. Is it her obligation to acknowledge what happened to Oscar?Not really.
Slylady81 2 years ago
Sly,
In case you're not paying attention, Beyonce is a MAJOR FIGURE who had MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of women bopping their heads and otherwise crying false tears about an issue SHE HAS NO IDEA ABOUT!
She (and the writer B.C. Jean) made a DIRECT claim that "boys" are evil, as if they were definitive experts on the LIVES of men.
You mean to tell me that less than TWO months after she comes out with this filth, she can't acknowledge at least one "boy"?
I say Beyonce owes Oscar Grant HER LIFE!
-FJ
FinalJusticeMovement 2 years ago
But indeed, you're right -- it IS our fault collectively.
And it's up to us to end their trail of blood.
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 2 years ago
Had to watch this vid again and I'm reminded of how slick women can be and it just makes me wonder do they know what they're doing to their future with the stuff they pull? I don't "fink" so!
cjjaxxon 2 years ago
It's more like what they are doing t OUR future, but even more so, what WE as MEN are doing to our selves by ALLOWING this travesty to continue!
We don't have much time left. Have you seen our current featured video?
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 2 years ago
I think I've seen whatever vids you posted but I'll subscribe to see if I missed any. We as men though, and I'm headed toward my mid 40s, are slowly but surely doing things about it. If you look here on YouTube you'll see. We have websites, some of us express ourselves on internet radio, and even some us instituted the "Wall Of Silence" meaning that we're through talking to these trolls because they won't change their minds and we ain't gon waste our time doing so.
cjjaxxon 2 years ago
You did a very very good video!....
polygynyseeker 2 years ago
What the media says about the genders is a lie. The clause "Respect women." implies female superiority. Female superiority is a blight on mankind. I demand an end to misandric media. I am outraged at how the media portrays men. I am outraged that the media encourages female superiority.
TediusZanarukando 2 years ago 4
Finally, someone who has a clear vision on the situation.
Feel free to join us, Zanaru.
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 2 years ago
Bingo.
Political correctness, mass media brainwashing. Repeated and enforced. Its mind control. If they can control what you say, they can control what you think.
Keep speaking out my friend.
Truth0rDeath 2 years ago
Yes, I have a clear vision of the situation. Some of the message boards I attended are too politically correct. I hate when people, especially authority figures, control what I say and what I think. Information control and mind control are characteristic of a cult.
TediusZanarukando 2 years ago
Cult is exactly right.
Same tactics. Much larger scale.
Truth0rDeath 2 years ago
@TediusZanarukando "Respect women" doesn't imply female superiority any more than "respect men" would imply male superiority.
YukiNekoPrincess 1 year ago
ohkay seriously dude your balls seem to shrink with every video. Beyonce??
amielrox 2 years ago
Ooh...
To confuse me with your ex-boyfriend and then take it out on this video is kind of sad, Amiel.
Is there something you want to know as to why we put the spotlight the misandry of Beyonce? We can tell you.
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 2 years ago
Well, I'm glad to see you haven't changed. You still think I'm either gay or female (which is it this time, by the way?)
I can guess because "she's spreading hate and dominion over men by women!" so we should fantasize about shooting her, right? And Irreplaceable is unfair because she's kicking him out over an affair.
Jeez, it's nothing but relationships and commitment issues, and you expect someone who sings songs as shallow as "Single Ladies" to acknowledge a murder?
amielrox 2 years ago
Well, Amiel,
The fact that Beyonce had the nerve to record "If I Were A Boy" which boasts/suggests that women know what it's like to live as a man and that men don't understand women or know how to love women.
This video debunks that destructive ill-conceived notion hands-down, challenges Beyonce (and writer BC Jean) to live up to such claims in her song and basically says that THEY DON'T KNOW JACK S#!> about being a male... PERIOD!
STILL Yours In Truth,
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 2 years ago
Did you stop to think maybe she got help from her husband, Jay-Z? And from what I remember she sang songs like "Halo" and "Ego" and "Cater to You" which talk about her appreciation and affection for men.
Beyonce never really sang about family, just relationships so I really don't think your argument should apply to her. Jeez, who's next, Miley Cyrus for making teenage girls force their daddies to buy Disney products?
Pointless complaints over the insecurity of your manhood XD
amielrox 2 years ago
Wow, you actually shut up
But don't worry, you'll always be Mine in Truth :-)
amielrox 2 years ago
I may be silent for a period of time,
but that doesn't make me any less loud with the truth, Amiel.
;)
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 2 years ago
How true, you were screaming the same truth over and over back in the Anita Bryant video :)
amielrox 2 years ago
Beyonce is a disgrace and the most man-hating monger in pop culture. It goes back to the days of Destiny's Child.
I don't care if she does some moderate cuts like Halo, the damage is done. As she ages ungracefully, we will see the karma exact a fitting revenge on her and her career.
ContrarianExpatriate 2 years ago
I don't think she hates on men in general..
I think she makes them songz because she has been threw that at one point.. at one point she prply thought all men were dogz and she's showing us thru songz.. I don't think she will have an impact on how women feel about men.. 2nd off Beyonce has more "praiseing men" songz then downing men..Halo,Ego,Crazy In Love, Dangerously in Love, Cater 2 you,Satalites,& single ladies does not bash men.. It's actully talking about sex b4 marriage
Repatillia 2 years ago
The average man has been through more heartbreak in periodic 5-minute intervals than five teenage girls have ever experienced in their lifetime combined. You don't hear any one of them throwing derision at THE ENTIRE FEMALE GENDER in music.
As far as "Single Ladies" is concerned, it is a propaganda tool to pressure men into marriage. This is because she knows that marriage doesn't benefit men as it does women, who will more than likely seek to divorce him for kids and cash.
--FJ
FinalJusticeMovement 2 years ago
I have to say there is derision about females in some of the rap music today... but i agree, beyonce's stuff is pretty misandric.
alittlebitofperil 2 years ago
Well, in all actuality, when you look at the lyrical scope of TODAY'S Rap (which is clearly distinctive in content from what people would come to know as Hip-Hop), there tends to be more of it in THIS time than in earlier generations.
But you must consider this, Albop:
Would you rather a man GENUINELY compliment you or call you a "worthless c**t" for absolutely no reason?
If you are intimate with a man, would you rather him "talk dirty" or "talk you down"?
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 2 years ago
Kind of a stupid question, with respect. Of course a woman would ratehr be genuinely complimented. I know that it is terrible men are called worthless for no reason - I'm not one fo those women who think of men that way. So you are preaching to the converted. I just don't think its as one sided as you say. Its grey everywhere... no black and white unfortunately. Women are being manipulated too, just in different ways. its how we are controlled by government.
alittlebitofperil 2 years ago
Exactly! You said it all TOO perfectly. It's all grey matter now.
Thje point behind my question is that although the female image IS marketed, manipulated, and sexualized for the masses, it is not primarily men who is making this happen, and it never was.
It was always BOTH men and women, and guess what? -- It could never happen without the conscious participation of women! If those select women were emancipated and dignified enough, female "sexploitation" wouldn't exist!
-FJ
FinalJusticeMovement 2 years ago
Yeah, this is the sad thing. But then in the bellydance world, it is filled with women making it hard for other women. It has alwyas been beyond me. I have always found men to be generally more straightforward than women (on the whole). The trouble is, the women allowing the sexualisation of everything now are doing so because they do actually think it is liberating to behave like a slut. I don't really get it personally. and there are allt hose teen girls otu there parroting it.
alittlebitofperil 2 years ago
Hey FJM! I read the first 20 comments and I say you're right about Beyonce. After what her and her father did to those two or three singers they had with them and them going to a trio I had a disdain for them ever since. Other vids about her points to her being demonic. Check out OrangeMoon82's or Ainesis3's vid on her and see whatcha think?
cjjaxxon 2 years ago
Also, what's with the deep voice?
And most known for hating men? No, that's just you. Almost everybody that knows Beyonce knows her for her music, and the Kanye West incident.
1l1k3bacon 2 years ago
The Kanye West incident was nothing more than a publicity stunt FOR Beyonce.
Beyonce was going to win an award that night ANYWAY... and guess what?
It was the most important MTV "award" of the night. Go figure.
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 2 years ago
Wrong. Beyonce's lyrics have been mostly anti-male since the days of Destiny's Child. Give a listen to them before you speak from a position of ignorance. Of course, an apologist for misandry would dismiss all that since she can shake a booty on camera well.
ContrarianExpatriate 2 years ago
WELL-FRIGGIN'-SAID!!!
Thank you, ConEx! That's the whole point I'm making.
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 2 years ago
You say she was "most known" for hating men, which is highly incorrect. When you ask someone who Beyonce, they'd most likely say she's someone who sings.
1l1k3bacon 2 years ago
Ask any CONSCIOUS person about Beyonce, that person (especially if it's a man) will tell you the same thing I'm telling you.
In fact, many of them will link "Bills, Bills, Bills" to "No Scrubs" by TLC. Both songs were written by a male producer (for the music) and a former member of Xscape (for the lyrics), who is currently starring in a new reality show. Go figure.
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 2 years ago
I don't see how the death has anything to do with Beyonce. It seems like you just stuck the death parts on there carelessly. He might have had personal problems, also maybe like Beyonce having personal problems with men.
By the way, there is no point to this video. Anyone who supports this would comment "I agree blah blah blah", and it would hardly change other peoples' opinions. Beyonce's music is for entertainment.
1l1k3bacon 2 years ago
Watch the video again and LISTEN CAREFULLY, Bacon.
This video demonstrates a contrast between Beyonce's song "If I Were A Boy" which spouts stereotypical, stigmatic assumptions of manhood with the REAL LIFE of a REAL, ACTUAL MAN.
Beyonce's music IS entertainment. It's also PROPAGANDA that permeates the way people live out their lives, which in this case is for the purpose of conflict!
The death of Oscar Grant was REALITY!
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 2 years ago
How is it CONNECTED to Oscar Grant's death?
1l1k3bacon 2 years ago
It's not a DIRECT connection.
Listen to the lyrics of "If I Were A Boy".
And then listen to the video and READ THE DESCRIPTION in the "more info" link, and you'll understand completely what the connection is.
Yours In Truth,
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 2 years ago
Hey...
I know all of the words to the song and I don't think she was talking about bringing brothas down at all. I think she was pointing to the double standard in society that if a man has more than one love interest, that he is looked upon as a hero of sorts. She tried to flip the script saying that if she cheated or acted like some disrespectful men, she wouldn't have to face any a consequences.
Oscar (RIP) wouldn't have been the boy she was talking about in the song. That song is more..
AfreeQueen 2 years ago
for boys like Lil'Wayne. Not the good black man doing what he can for his family and being great fathers for their kids.
AfreeQueen 2 years ago
There is a double-standard when it comes to infidelity... and it FAVORS the WOMAN!
Try finding any song out there that calls out a cheating woman on her behavior. Even in country music today, you'll find more songs that praise women than those that chastise them.
Plus, NO ONE looks to the man as a "hero" if he cheats on his lady, but if a woman cheats, she's "emancipated". ("You go, girl"). Moreover, women in general often DON'T have to face consequences for her transgressions.
--FJ
FinalJusticeMovement 2 years ago
I respectfully disagree with you, FJM, I have never been on the end of telling a female "You Go GIrl" when it comes to sistas cheating on their mates. It's a punk move all the way around. I know that I can't change the minds of people around me who do things like that so I remain neutral.
Also, a man who cheats is looked upon with other like-minded men (not all men) as a god and the phrase "boys will be boys" often rears it's head. No doubt there are women who cheat on their husbands
AfreeQueen 2 years ago
lovers and significant others and they are DIRTY for that. The thing is that the double standard has always leaned toward the man being the hero to other men when he does it. Instead of people seeing it as BOTH parties who participate in cheating on their lovers as WRONG.
AfreeQueen 2 years ago
AQ, I think you've misunderstood the social concept of sex when it comes to men and women.
Men MAY consider their fellow male friend a "god" as it were, for his ABILITY TO CONNECT WITH and/or HAVE SEX WITH as many women as he can. This MAY OR MAY NOT include whether that man is in a relationship or not, but in these cases, that's a moot point.
But when it comes to a man who KNOWS his friend IS violating a solid relationship, more often than not, he won't praise him for THAT.
--FJ
FinalJusticeMovement 2 years ago
In that comment you basically drew the line between Men and boys. A man would not look at his friend as a god if he were cheating on a girlfriend OR a wife. A boy looks up to another 'boy' for his sexual conquests. There are some women who act the same way.
AfreeQueen 2 years ago
There are MANY, MANY, MANY women who act that same way... more so than you think, and even more so than the men, going back to when i mentioned that women are more sexual than men are.
Also, the first part of the comment YOU left clearly demonstrates the double-standard that exists between mature males and females.
Grown men aalways have to "prove how much of a man they are in society for WHATEVER he may or may not do, while the womanhood of childish females is NEVER QUESTIONED!
--FJ
FinalJusticeMovement 2 years ago
Actually, the womanhood of childish females ARE questioned. OFTEN especially in the days of Youtube. lol I cant' STAND a childish woman either. There are even OTHER black women on youtube asking those questions.
I'm not an authority on who does what how often. I try not to generalize I'll just say that there are women who do the same thing that some men do.
AfreeQueen 2 years ago
It is only BECAUSE of the advent of YouTube, where the PEOPLE actually get to voice their opinions freely, that we can finally hear from the REAL women who know the real deal and question other females who needed to be addressed probably ever since birth.
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 2 years ago
It's in the GENERAL consensus, by the way, in which females are STILL NEVER QUESTIONED.
Whatever they do, they're "just women".
--The Final Justice
FinalJusticeMovement 2 years ago
Yup, i'd definitely say women ar emore sexual than men. and guess what - the greeks said it too. 'more carnally voracious and sexually dangerous than men' - i think was the jist of what they said. For my entire adult life i've wondered why men are considered to be sex mad when i've rarely seen evidence for it. Only one boyfriend I had was 'sex mad'. I think the suppression of sexuality by religions has not helped that - trouble is women have over the years started using sex to bargain at home.
alittlebitofperil 2 years ago
Im not understanding how that statement makes her even more of a "man-hater".
And Neyo mentioned that he wrote every word to that song and she only changed the melody (that's besides the point though because it's still her singing it).
Either way, I don't actually think she's a "man-hater". Just as she has negative songs about men she has positive ones. I think it's just strictly entertainment.
Nothing more or less.
MissLovelyKiera 2 years ago
Strictly entertainment???? I beg to differ, Kiera.
Why is it that when Beyonce sings anti-male attack songs FOR 11 YEARS, it's only entertainment, while THE ENTIRE CATEGORY OF HIP-HOP (AND ALL ITS MALE PARTICIPANTS) is consistently classified as and accused of being mysogynistic??? WHY?
Don't forget that entertainment is a conditioning tool with the purpose of causing mass societal conflict. And that's what Beyonce is deliberately and unapologetically contributing to.
--FJ
FinalJusticeMovement 2 years ago
...Beyonce is married. If she hated black men she wouldn't have married one. As far as I can tell, those songs you listed are about haters (female and male) and bad men. How about the songs she wrote / performed praising black men?
Dangerously In Love
Cater to You
Sweet Dreams
Ego
*I am a sometimey Beyonce fan and think she's self-grandising sometimes...lol But I dont' think she hates black men. If she did she would have pulled a Blakebarbiedoll, downing them at ever turn.*
AfreeQueen 2 years ago