Human Weapon Krav Maga

[eduds6]

Krav Maga doesnt have Rules. It is meant to Stop the attacker,self Defense,or To Kill. MMA is a Long sport with long fights,which have rules,And that forbid dirty moves.

An Expert and Physically able Krav Trainer is able to take down Any MMA Fighter because he is trained to kill,Run or Stop. Not to fight in a more sport way.

At other side,In a ring,an MMA Fighter would win,simply because many moves used by Krav would be forbidden,making it useless.

MMA: An Sport

Krav:Self-Defence.

[benkins88]

Tbf he showing that a mma fighter or ring fighter first reaction at close range is to grapple and that kick he delivered with or without armour would not of done much at that range if he new Krav Maga he'd been in semi passive and then a sudden kick to groin (and even with groin protection you flinch and bend over trust me lol) then fled scene or if to late he would of 360 defence simultaneous counter to throat/face then controller that arm! If I was him while he was holding arm and moving I'd

[Finalymadename]

I think that the truth in this video isn't MMA on the street, more like, a person with a knife and armour has a far superior advantage. This I believe this is true of any martial art. I don't believe that a krav maga fighter would have faired much better.

[TheStickeye]

This is just pure propaganda, i wonder how much Jason got paid for doing this.

The attacker is wearing armour meant to be used when practising full power kicks with 0 injury risk. Real situation:

Attacker gets the shit kicked out of him because he doesn't have armour and the kick is done @ full power

Defender uses the stopping kick as an step forward

Attacker is trying to catch breath, leaning forward.

Defender puts a knee to his face or breaks his arm.

Krav Maga is overrated bullshit.

[TheGamingUpdated]

@TheStickeye Krav maga ıs used on the battlefıeld ıts traıned by Isrealı commandos and marınes I belıeve. So ınfact the soldıer wıll be wearıng a bullet proof vest elbow pads and a helmet.

[chrisfromoh]

Say what you want about the Jews here in America, the ones in Israel don't play around, haha.

[Lameglioify]

Why does the knife guy have some kind of armor? Of course he is not gonna react to the kick.

[bobbytmathew]

damn i like the video, but why is it cut off?

[anak80]

This is all a cute propaganda video. Jason Chambers didn't kick the guy (who had padding) with 100% force nor did he follow it up with a hook or anything. Chambers in the video stood there and let the dude (the one with more padding than a lineman on) charge him. Make this real and put in ANY top level MMA fighter and one kick or punch is enough to rupture your spleen, bust your orbital, or crack your ribs.Or a wrestler would take the guy down and pound on him. Silly video.

[CacciatoreXLG]

@anak80 And 1 stab is enough to take down the MMA fighter. You get a stab faster than you think.

Still, the best defense for it, is just avoid a fight, or run away if possible.

[anak80]

@CacciatoreXLG "you get a stab faster than you think" LOLOL

Okay tough guy. I'll remember that. I don't advocate people playing the hero and taking on people with knives but I've even been attacked with a knife and knocked the guy out cold and I'm no pro fighter. Go learn something before commenting tough titan.

[jhs81]

@anak80 Sure you have.. My hero!

[jamespohh]

@anak80 LOL and against a top Kali fighter, every kick and punch from that MMA fighter would be met with deep cuts and stabs. Ligaments, arteries, veins and tendons slashed. Blood loss, shock sets in. Then once those limbs are hurting, he'll go for the body LOL. Wrestle? Sure shoot in and he'll pay with a knife to the spine or skull. Guard? Goodbye femoral arteries. LOL. You were stupid and you got lucky. Self-defense relies on solid skill and judgment, not stupidity LOL.

[anak80]

@jamespohh Okayyy lets hope for your sake you never get in a fight buddy. Go on and play some XBOX my man, its safe living in fantasy behind a screen in your mothers basement with cookies and warm milk. Awww so cute!!!

[jamespohh]

@anak80 Oh but I have! Many many many fights. Even got suspended for fighting at school. Faced weapons, faced multiple assailants, etc. In a nutshell I've been there while you haven't. Let's hope for your sake you get up to speed on your knowledge about how things work in the real world, instead of those fantasies of ruptured spleens, busted orbitals and propaganda conspiracy theories.

[anak80]

@jamespohh Sure you have. Was it Call of Duty on XBOX or Street Fighter on the SNES?

[jamespohh]

@anak80 LOL I don't own either of them, but the fact you know so much about them tells me you do! Fights are quite commonplace for people, assface. Get used to it. Quit crying like a baby because of this video LOL

[anak80]

@jamespohh Put your money where your mouth is tough guy. Assface? You sound as intelligent as the trash hooker who raised you.

[jamespohh]

@anak80 AHAHAHAHAHAHAH U MAD?? LOL....grrrrrr. Assface. God I love that "propaganda" conspiracy theory you got. Did you know we had someone that tried what Jason did and he nearly DIED for it? Yea, he tried to grapple someone with a knife and now he looks like Frankenstein LOL. Oh I guess that was propaganda right? LMFAO...cry more twathead

WAAAAAAAHHHHH cry baby...WAAAAAAHHHH ANAK80 BABY WAAAHHH XD

[anak80]

@jamespohh Waaahhh waaaaahh yes I'm devastated. Crushed.

[jamespohh]

@anak80 Yea that's right little baby XD. You were so devastated and butthurt you actually sent me a PM challenging me to a fight LOL. Try not to embarrass yourself any further asswipe! Go fuck an Xbox and wear a Tapout belly shirt

[moobsman1]

lmao its so fuckin funny seeing jason get put in his place at the end.... he looks like he is gona cry. 'But but... I'm a 10th planet JJ brown belt dammit'

[aladonocturno]

MMA SUCKS!!

[sibkiss2009]

A martial arts master I heard about took on an expert knife fighter and lost. He demonstrated that the knife fighter is nobody to mess with.

[scrotumshogun]

haha the brutal truth at the end

[MidnightCardinal]

he's dead

[jetboy0220]

he just he sucks lol at the end

[woa11]

thats why we have guns.

[MidnightCardinal]

at that close range?

[tedpm206]

Knives are much more dangerous, unless you already have your gun out or are more than 30 feet away.

[AgentCell]

first thing he should've noticed is the hand behind this guys back. always look at the hands because hands hurt people, carry weapons, etc. he should've aimed to either grab the hand behind the guys back or run away.

[ArtiRena777]

Not to comment on either Krav or MMA but that Jason Chambers sure is yummy.

I'm a girl.

[ernestridge1]

please do not let it be said that stabbing cannot and should not be used IMO it must be balanced - against\alongside\with - all of the simple extended slashing blocking striking techniques which generally offer more effectiveness and the utility of more protection from deploying moves and counter moves.

[TangomanX2008]

well, a puncture (I don't want to use the word stab. Thats only one type of attack that could result in a puncture. The fencing lunge would be an example of a puncture attack that is not a stab) needs to be set up. It would be foolish to make that the first strike. But grabbing someone's arm with one hand and thrusting the knife with the other would be a good example. Another would be to get them to drop their hands by cutting at their arms or hands, and once those hands go down, then bam.

[suckmypokecock]

Don't educate the thugs...

[ernestridge1]

If you watch this video (versus the KM frontline video which is very good) you will see that for no reason (a little suspiciously for the sake of the script perhaps) he expects the knife, acknowledges it, he kicks which is a goog ranging stike, but then against all known instinct reaction (think defensive wounds people focus on knives when being attacked) deliberately ignores the knife deploys no other strike\block\hold

[ernestridge1]

The the effectiveness of these methods is enhanced because of several additional factors\influences long weaponry - with preferred use of medium/long length shield and formation tactics (and as was proven in the race and miners riots in UK 1980s and the race and anti war riots in US in 1980s not wishing photographic images of overshoulder clubbing by police of rioter/protestors)

[ernestridge1]

Undoubtedly the stabbing moves have their place, and there are classic examples of this where this was the only trained principle method in combat lethal - the roman gladdius sword, the italian stilletto knife and the sykes fairburn commando dagger in surprise neutralization/murder -non lethal unbladed versions of above - police riot control long baton\bo and arrest and restaint truncheon\short baton

[ernestridge1]

The best defence when unarmed against the knife is to break contact, where this is less achievable you need to look at improvised shielding\weaponry chairs, coats, sticks boxes etc etc going unarmed is an absolute last resort - but again if this is the only mindset you have been taught because of bad teaching - you are f***ed - aren't you?

[ernestridge]

when we reach adapted, new style, or mixed martial arts we generally tend to hit the catalogue of bastardised or wholly newly created tricks, unfortunately the knife techniques both in attack and defence seem to suffer the worst - and the slashing ones become things of hollywood absurdity - KISS keep it simple stupid should reign but it doesn't even sadly in KM - another adapted, or new style depending on whom you listen to

[ernestridge]

the reason stabbing is so common is that it is generally an extension of the instinct of the punch strike.

Its important to remember that because it is so common makes it a more familiar move, statistically it does not make it more

effective move than "slashing"

[ernestridge1]

stabbing can be parried\blocked more easily and has accuracy issues, slashing moves are far more robust and less accuracy critical, arguably they also provide the assailant with statistically greater protection from counter moves during the move - remembering also the translation of almost all the bo/stick/baton/edged non edged weapon moves across the principle - its not that stabbing isn't effective its just less so across your statistical event exposure

[TangomanX2008]

Just because puncture wounds are more dangerous doesn't mean that stabbing is always preferable to slashes. They are two separate issues, and there is a time for both. I would agree that there is some criticality for puncture wounds, but if you manage to punture someone especially in the torso, its going to be more serious damage. As for non edged weapons (eg. bo) involve the "move across" principle. There are strikes that are stab like (one looks alot like hitting a billiard ball).

[legacysage]

Takes more time to deliver a decent slash than it does to deliver a decent stab.

The slash has a longer reach, but takes a bit more time to do, leaving room for an experienced fighter to deal with the knife before it's in his chest, and if the attacker goes for a stab, chances are he is close enough to be countered. ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW.

[ernestridge1]

the heart is a muscle which can contrary to popular belief often survive a stab injury, and most other vital organs will survive albeit being lethal at a later time, generally because of muscle contraction back around penetration injuries. Slash injuries provide far greater potential short time \immediate take down through haemorraging and structural\mechanical destruction and are less negated by clothing jackets wallets belts anti stab vests flak jackets webbing etc

[ernestridge]

understanding inside and outside areas of the surface of the body, the mechanism is a compromise, inside areas - cleft of neck, elbow,knee,groin wrist,armpit,tendons veins and arteries are well within knife cutting depth, this is before one encounters mass dermal haeamorrage thru shallow,medium long inciused wounds to outside areas - as made famous not just by samurai but english football hooligans with stanley knives.

[ernestridge]

For this you need to have reference to Accident and Emergency medical data - Generally in any combat situation the human physiology needs to be understood, as do the human involuntary responses as chemicals are released into the blood stream, as does the true duration of a lethal encounter, lethal being a good statistical assumption where bladed weaponry is encountered

[ernestridge]

A puncture wound is NOT generally more dangerous than a slash -anybody who actually knows anything about the human body can confirm that - this is pure made up ball shit

[TangomanX2008]

no, they realy are generally more dangerous. It depends on where exactly the puncture goes through though. Some slashes can be dangerous, such as cut to the throat or the jugular. But a puncture wound, especially if its through the torso or the back is not only going to draw blood, but its likely to puncture something you really don't want punctured, such as the heart, lung, kidney, stomach, etc. Most slashes can be stiched back up, but many puncture wounds are a different story.

[chrisfromoh]

he's right

[karazzu]

that is the 5th scence of a cholo nor street alike knife strike nor assault and you don't even need knife or years of training to puncture or picar into someone.

Damm you coulget killed so easy best martial art to run as fast as hell evenbetter avoid problem as possible. You can wacht here around some knife attack tapes aint pretty but show the thins as bloody as it is

[TangomanX2008]

I enjoy my Krav Maga training, but the optimism concerning the Knife defense kinda bothers me. I also trained in Jujitsu (long time ago), and we covered knife defence there too. The big difference is that my instructor basically told me that when I am attacked with a knife, I may get cut or stabbed, and may even get killed. If I get cut or stabbed, to not give up and continue with my defense.

[ruthlesspno1]

Ericcson your taking the assumption that you are fighting an opponant one on one, Krav Maga as a system is design for battlefield implementation hense why they teach you to fight with an M-16 as a melee weapon. Also most Krav Maga fighters have other back grounds in martial arts aka Boxing, Muay thai, Judo , Karate , BJJ etc etc .

[ericssson]

Krav Maga is good vs a dumb arab whit no skills

but Againts a fuck'n good fighter i don't think so

if the guy as a knife and skills your dead Krav maga won't be able to save you..the guys in the Philippines, Indonesia ,malaysia and the Gurkas are just to good. One of the Krav Maga best weapon is the kick to the balls. Where a CUP you will freak them out when they kick you.

[highspeed777]

dude its a system and allot of advanced krav maga isnt shown on tv or class and it takes years to learn inless your in israeli special forces. As for it being a system its allot of things theyve taken from martial arts over the world muy thai, karate, BJJ, even kali and escrima good stuff flows in bad stuff flows out since its always being tested

[alpista82]

The last comment of the bald guy says everything. We can be good at the ring, but don't have any self defense skills when we are under attack on the street. That's why KM is the best self defense system for these last situations. Boxe, TKD, Judo, Muay Thai, Karate are martial arts and don't have the same efficacy on the street.

[0620273374]

Really dont think there is such a thing as a "best MA". Generalist statments like this lead to a false sence of security, and that gets people killed in the street.

[TangomanX2008]

I agree here. It depends on what your self defense needs are and what system gives them to you. I have a good jujitsu (the japanese type, not brazilian), and I got alot of it. Unfortunately, for me, I'm a naturally mellow guy, and I realized that I could benefit from the aggresiveness that Krav Maga conveys (and that my jujitsu training lacked. There was alot of emphasis on being relaxed and focused). Krav Maga takes a different approach and it gives me what I need now.

[Sh3pardMelody]

hhahahaah... thats funny

[severeimplement]

MMA is a sport that can be taken into the streets, but Self-Defense is for Survival and Krav Maga is Self-Defense.

I think we can all agree on that. =)

[mgbrawl]

well I 4 1 agree! there are many varibles that can make mma unsuitable 4 self defense! such as UNPROVOKED attacks, muiltibles, weapons,pavement,,biting,groin attacks etc. and b4 any1 argues, yes i train bjj, mt, wresteling & jap jujitsu

[severeimplement]

It's nice to hear someone that knows what he's talking about. I've talked to so many people that get too cocky learning Martial Arts, but in Self Defense, you should never underestimate any situation and never get cocky.

I like how Bruce Lee believed in Self Defense, like finger jab to the eye and kicking the knee cap, which is illegal in the ring LOL.

[mgbrawl]

thanks mate! yeh id also rather kick the groin than roundhouse a bigger dudes thighs! they'd prob just keep coming and knock ur head off! also prefair throws to takedowns wereas u dont have 2 go down with them, in case his m8's wanna stomp u!!

[ABoffman]

MMA is only good when both opponents have no weapons.

[Hotora86]

Yeah, try doing your precious MMA on some ass with a knife. Good fucking luck!

[adbs65]

true enough

[ianclytle]

What kinda dingus would show up to a knife fight without a gun? :p

[ssvideosyt]

"It's nothing you'll see in the movies, 'cause this works." Yeah, except for Bourne.

[leavemealone2006]

They used kali to coreograph the Bourne fights, but yeah I get your point (and kali is a good art too). The bourne fights are pretty straight and to the point.

[ssvideosyt]

Bourne knows KM

[NorthernDaveTN2]

sorry to be pedantic - bourne uses patikri tersia, similar but not the same :-)

[leavemealone2006]

oh, I just know that in the special features, the stunt coreographer said he used kali to coreograph the fight.

What is patikri tersia?

[NorthernDaveTN2]

forgive my ignorance! i think kali is a generic term similar to kung fu. pakiti tirsia (forgive my earlier spelling mistake) is a form of kali, i guess similar to wing chun is a form of kung fu. i believe the name kali comes from the knife of the same name. wikipedia it for a more in depth explanation as its not an art i study so my knowledge is limited. i read it was pakiti tirsia in arena mens magazine with Mat Damon

[Taekwondownage]

I wanted to see what hapens next it would be funny if jason beet him up for saying that lol.

[redtortoise76]

"You're a real good ring fighter but you have no skill whatsoever in self defense" Lol yeah that's pretty much the case

[redtortoise76]

There you go, a professional MMA fighter with ten years of trining going against someone with a knife and he got shred to pieces in like 4 seconds. MMA is not the ultimate answer for the streets.

[YiuYeung]

@redtortoise76 true, but I don't think those Krav Maga people can defend against a MMA person. Like they don't expect a scissors take down or a double leg. Krav people don't expect to be attacked by very technical attacks.

[stardingo747]

Jason Chambers and Bill Duff learned Krav Maga from Telly Savalas! lol.

[catchmyseed7]

the first one to strike in combat is usually the winner

and i dont mean the first to STRIKE, the first to HIT - if u strike but he hits first cuz hes faster or w/e then game over u lose

[ekdegol1]

this guy is useless

[pengisoldier]

lol, u see like heaps of belly stabs

[aluisious]

LOL "no skill whatsoever in self defense."

:(

[a8rakadabra]

er. he was MEANT to grab the dudes knife hand, disarming him and putting him in an arm lock simultaneously.

[Shaolos]

The guy rocks. In the end my training has shown me that yes, you can defend against knives, but in the end, it is still a numbers game no matter how good you are. Problem is, in combat those who come second get buried.

[Thunderhouse2]

"You'r a good rong fighter but you have no skill whatsoever in self defence."

Finally somebody is speaking the truth. I love it.

[lespaul13141516]

lmao you're a real good ring fighter but have no skill whatsoever in self-defence hahah what a burn

[la0zboi]

shanked muthafukka

[tidalwade1234]

grabing someone isnt deffense blocking is

[Tkdhater]

DAMNNN....

[aikighost]

Ive never been in a "Real" fight with some with a knife thank god. I've done plenty of training and I'm 110% sure none of it is anywhere near reality.

Listen you can train whatever you like and pretend you're prepared to defend against a knife but personally I think you are completely kidding yourself.

Train and have fun, but don't ever try to defend a knife attack open handed, always run or get a  longer weapon.

[wayoftheforesthand]

well im glad you doubt your training. but I happen to trust mine. because i am 200% sure you can survive a knife fight empty handed. I have meet people who have.now getting cut is going to happen, but if you walk away and he doesnt you survived.

[wayoftheforesthand]

also back to how this conversation started the IDF does actually use their defence more then almost any other military force in the world. so these guys have to trust that they can stop a knife a attack empty handed because if not, they WILL die. until you have been to Isreal and seen what its like over there you have no idea. Krav Maga to them is the difference between going home and a body bag.

[aikighost]

Bull. Krav Maga is physical training and recreation. Having a good rifle, pistol or SMG is what you want in real combat.

By the way I've been to Tel Aviv a few times and its a lovely laid back kind of place. Most people who are in the IDF are only there because they have to be not like a serious army of non conscripts.

[wayoftheforesthand]

what part of WHEN THERE IS NO OTHER CHOICE dont you get? you cant always have a full clip, or is a close quarters situation. guns work great unless the person is less then a foot or so away with a knife. its why there are systems like cqc where you use both knife and gun, because guns are not the best in extreme close quarters combat.

[wayoftheforesthand]

I have had friend who nearly got their hands cut off in the middle east do to cqc situations. and if it wasnt for some type of anti knife defence they would be called stubby, or worse yet DEAD.

[wayoftheforesthand]

oh one last thing if you have never been in a "real" fight with some one with a knife how do you know you cant defend when fighting a knife. look at the philipino systems. they are about fighting knives. the freaking system is about defending when fighting a knife and stick with a weapon or empty handed. if it was all crap the people teaching it would be dead. philipino as im sure you are well educated in have one of the highest stabbing rates in the whole world.

[aikighost]

"oh one last thing if you have never been in a "real" fight with some one with a knife how do you know you cant defend when fighting a knife"

Because I've sparred it enough to know that unarmed VS knife is a virtually no win situation.

I just don't want anyone reading this to be under any delusion that they have a decent chance against a serious attacker with a knife. Most of the time you'll be stabbed several times before you even see the knife at all.

[wayoftheforesthand]

maybe you havent sparred enough, its either that our no offence your not that good. which im sure ill get a how dare you say that.

[wayoftheforesthand]

"Most of the time you'll be stabbed several times before you even see the knife at all." what is this a prison shanking? a knife moves no faster then a persons hands. so unless this is some guy who has already planned on killing you before hand, he has to pull the knife out. fights are not usually "boo" there is a guy killing you. its leads up to the fight, so if you expect the guy to use some type of weapon you are not always caught off guard.

[keysyj]

try it with a friend - get him to sneakily pull a plastic/wooden one out while fighting you one day. $10 says you dont notice he has one in his hand til after

[wayoftheforesthand]

this goes back to, is does this guy plan on killing you long before he pulls the knife, or are we talking shit getting in a fight and then he pulls a knife. two completely different situations. guys hands are in pocket hey might be half way smart idea to be prepared for a possible weapon. guy has one hidden already because he plans on stabbing you well ya you are going to most likely get ripped a new one.

[wayoftheforesthand]

what do you study that you have decide that ALL types of knife defence is useless.

[aluisious]

Good point, sadly.

If a guy has a knife and you have a chance to be somewhere else, take that chance.

If possible, find something to hit him with.

[LordOFtheFretboard]

my sensaii used to say that the best defence is to turn your leg 180 degrees... put 1 foot in front of the other and run your ass off, hehe.

[Thunderhouse2]

I agree, if you can run, do it.

But if you have no choice, "give 'em hell son!"

[wayoftheforesthand]

glad i could be of humor. I really wasnt losing that much sleep over the comment, and mine was about as off hand as the other guys so.

[the5thdominion]

wayoftheforesthand and democrat102:

I see your little discussion and it strikes me as funny. The reason I say this? I study martial arts and am Jewish and I saw nothing offensive in any of the comments, so I found your exchange mildly comical, although not hilarious. A simple misunderstanding with how something is worded can do that...

xD

[democrat102]

Glad to provide something for your comic relief the5thdominion, but I really wasn't commenting on the Jew thing as much as I was trying to make the former poster understand that the guy was more or less trying to lift up a fighter he admired.

[the5thdominion]

Yeah, I know. I still found the whole bit of confusion and commentary a little bit comical.

[gqmighty]

actually when Jason does the actual test he does pretty damn good...and im betting he does better then most of the jews who do that :)

[wayoftheforesthand]

oh nice anti semetic comment... also i some how doubt he was better then "most fo the jews that do that". they live in war. there are armed military people everyone where, and the threat is very real, and any given time. so ya i would say they are way damn better then jason.

[democrat102]

Just because someone says "Jews" doesn't mean that the person saying it is anti-semetic. I think what the poster was really doing was paying a compliment to Jason Chambers. Lets try not to be so sensitive.

[wayoftheforesthand]

lol

[brujeria18]

Thank you for posting. This video says it all...Its hard to compare a sport like MMA to RBSD such as Krav Maga. Both are training for completly different objectives, for different environments and different attackers.

[PMACoralSprings]

Ring fighting cant help you in real fighting!

[Vietguy444]

to Romeo8x, can you the same thing except with bill duff

[cjone234]

I've just started taking Krav Maga and man did they kick my ass in the beginning. Thankfully I'm getting better. Love the defense/offense techniques. So glad they did an episode on this. In my opinion, no real contest. I don't care what anyone says, you're not doing a tornado kick against a guy with a knife.

[the5thdominion]

cjone234:

You got that right.

I take Shaolin Chi Lu Chuan and one of the first things we were taught was that those flying kicks of Tae Kwon Do and many styles of Karate don't mean jack in close quarters against a weapon.

Training can be pretty hard - the iron body in KF is no cake walk, just like your training. Keep up the hard work - it'll pay off. :)

[lrivnay]

search for " Ran Nakash "

[JohnChivez]

yeah, these guys are good and all, but I just keep thinking... "You want to stab me? I think someone needs a hug!"

[BlueBlogsTV]

I've been a Krav Maga fan since the videotape days. Luckily, I haven't had to use it much but essentially it's all about stopping your opponent in the fastest time possible...breaking bones ,eye gouges, etc. It's the real deal . MMA is a Sport.

[Dirtydog102]

Man, there is difference between unarmed defence against a weapon and hand to hand fighting. It's the WEAPON. DUH! You can break bones using MMA. However, you can't do that in the ring! Also, Krav Maga is essentially MMA.

[the5thdominion]

BlueBlogsTV:

You said it. One of the major problems with many martial arts is the self-defense isn't fast enough. Not to diss other styles here or anything like that, but I noticed about 11 years ago when I looked for a martial art to take that many styles, especially Kempo and Karate, take way too long to defend. I found styles like Southern Shaolin (hardcore application) and Krav Maga much more comprehensive.

[aikighost]

Please. You think an unarmed Krav Maga Guy would do any better against a determined attacker with a knife? I think you're kidding yourself.

Only real defence against a knife is to run like hell.

[statisticool]

Why do the 'good at sport = good at real life self defense' wierdos (mostly UFC-ish event fans who buy into the hype) remain? Demonstrations like the above are 100% convincing for the need to train for real life.

[lemonman456]

in an unarmed fight sport fighters would be fine but the dont know how to defend against someone with a weapon

[aikighost]

Reality is YOU CANNOT DEFEND AGAINST A KNIFE UNARMED.

Try it and you WILL get stabbed. I don't care what style you study and for how long. Anti Knife techniques simply do not work well enough to be relied on.

[wayoftheforesthand]

so what happens if you cant run and you have do deal with a knife? thats the idea behind knife defence. it give you a idea what you might try in order not to die. true its not a sure thing, but in a fight nothing is a sure thing. and trying to figure out what to do in a fight with a knife isnt the best time to try and think of something.

[aikighost]

"so what happens if you cant run and you have do deal with a knife?"

Real World? You're fucked. That's the simple truth, anyone who say different is a bloody liar.

[wayoftheforesthand]

so all of the people I know who have been in fights with people with knives and lived are lieing? and all the military people who have been caught flat footed in combat were lieing about being able to defend themselves. or is this your guesses because you have never been in a fight with a person with a knife...

[wayoftheforesthand]

true you will get cut. thats what happens. but if you get cut and they die and you are able to survive which is possible, your "knife defence" saved your life. and dont tell me there are not people who have survived knife fights empty handed. I know of people who have in real combat. in war.

[moomoop0o]

SHANK SHANK SHANK SHANK SHANK lol

[miggetymike1]

that's because he was up against a guy with a knife