As far as the worst band at Warped Tour goes, this video was in 2008. Whitechapel did not play Warped Tour in 2008 and as far I know, neither did Alesana.
@MrMetallica1294 Are you sure, cause Alesana run the same type of formula as Protest the hero. In their new stuff the actually did a string quartet. plus they only have 3 guitarists same as whitechapel. No offence but I just listened to some W.C. and all of it sounds the same. I'm not trying to get into a youtube yelling match, it's just hard for me to believe that they would be saying Alesana are not musicians. To me it sounded like they were talking about A7x.
@ShipMonster yeah except for the fact that they weren't on warped tour. idiot. Alesana don't run the same formula as protest they're not as technically skilled as them. If you say the word polyrythm to them they'd give you a blank stare.
@Boooby LOL, I said same "TYPE" formula. Not the exact same formula. The point, which you seemed to have missed completely, is that they are not referencing Alesana. Someone gets "youtube mussels" when they get on here and decides to shit on random bands they don't like. Or the worst case, some ignorant interrupt a CONVERSATION and inject their own insults to cover insecurity. Why bring negativity if it's not asked upon? Plus the statement "idiot." is not a complete sentence, captain detail.
evergreen terrace never liked warped tour. the singer said it once a t a show @ Hamilton St cafe, Bound Brook when cheesy bands that play warped were trying to play hellfest. he basically said they they dont want that.
The description is wrong. Funny thing is, Arif is not a metal head at all. I saw a list of 20 random songs from his ipod and like only two were remotely metal, the rest was obscure jazz and stuff
whitechapel only have 3 guitarists because they want their live sound to be similar to the record... with harmonized leads (2 guitars) and the rhythm in the back.. it sounds better live.
i'm also guessing its because they didn't want to leave their friend behind who might have jammed with them back in the early days or something.
@MrMetallica1294 Are you sure, cause Alesana run the same type of formula as Protest the hero. In their new stuff the actually did a string quartet. plus they only have 3 guitarists same as whitechapel. No offence ( it looks like you love them ) but I just listened to some W.C. and all of it sounds the same. I'm not trying to get into a youtube yelling match, it's just hard for me to believe that they would be saying Alesana are not musicians. To me it sounded like they were talking about A7x.
@MrMetallica1294 Are you sure, cause Alesana run the same type of formula as Protest the hero. In their new stuff the actually did a string quartet. plus they only have 3 guitarists same as whitechapel. No offence ( it looks like you love them ) but I just listened to some W.C. and all of it sounds the same. I'm not trying to get into a youtube yelling match, it's just hard for me to believe that they would be saying Alesana are not musicians. To me it sounded like they were talking about A7x.
@MadnessHero3 Well that's Deathcore, I like, someone always will like it, but at the same time, I like more Technical stuff like Protest The Hero or Periphery. It's nice to have a good mix of music, even if some of it is very generic "core" music; it's good for just being heavy and brutal, which is never bad.
what does he mean "mainstage". is there different stages for the less mainstream bands? because i would be suprised if their was any real musically talented bands in the mainstream part of the tour.
@awagamgnalaw Well yeah, cause mainstage is for mainstream, and face it, mainstream is never really good, which is its mainstream; it's easily accessible by people who dont really care about what their music sounds like, and probably care more about how the people look and/or what everyone else is listening to. And to the people who say "it's mainstream because it's really good" no...just look at Lil Wayne, more people like him than don't, and he has no talent. End of. Smiley face :)
I actually saw Whitechapel at the never say die! tour(which I attended only for pth) and although I'm no faggot scene kid I was close to breaking in half just because they were so fantastically boring..way to waste three guitarists
i think whitechapel is amazing and it doesnt make you a scene kid for liking something through your own free will but yeah you probably just dont understand the composition of the songs or even the reason why they have three guitar (for rythem during harmonies)
Harmonic content is actually strictly notes and not rhythm. A harmony is actually a counterpoint of the melody and is played over the melody; without the melody a harmony can't exist. Without it's context there is nothing to "harmonize," and it's just a strange-sounding melody.
definately not. A melody can be described as the 'tune". Of course, this is not always the case, as the definitions of musical terms has changed over the years.
A harmony is what has over the years and with the developments of rock/metal can be described the accompaniment. Historically, harmony was developed to create what we know as chords. It took years and years for people like Palestrina and early Bach to create a system that is still widely used today by people of all genres.
no they werent whitechapel playing at the warped tour is like michael jackson going to a strip club although it would be funny to see its never gonna happen
I love Arif, for what he lacks in stage presence he makes up for sick skills and technical ability. Oh how I envy him. Hoping to get some Protest the Hero covers up on here soon. :)
Thing is he's became so talented at bass. In their old stuff there wasn't much for him to do so he got to jump around. Give a little get a little, you know?
I don't know man. The new songs are definitely more complex musically, but look at him play something like "Nautical" live. Still a pretty crazy bass part, and he still goes pretty crazy. Ah, it's all good though. I still love them all more than I should love anything. Ever.
When kezia was out arif was amazing. He always made funny faces and he was more enjoyable to watch than the others in my opinion. But yeah now the music`s gotten more challenging and they`re getting tired of touring so they`re not as energetic :P
with the whole 3 guitars thing, the new band 'year one' has 3 guitars now.. thats another one they might be talking about, and there also close to evergreen terrace.
Ya, while talking to him on Sunday I found out he was Persian (born in Canada as you said). For the longest time I had it in my mind he was Egyptian???
Sorry, but persia doesn't exist its an old empire that turned into most of the Middle easteren countries and remember 'ARAB' is a race, like being White or Black, being persian which is iranian or egyptian or pakistani means that you're arab.
I thought he was, but then he specifically told me he was not. I know that Persia became Iran, though I still hear most Iranians that I know call themselves Persian. I certainly do not know enough about that part of the world in general to say much about it, so I just took his word for it when he said he wasn't. Sorry if I offended you, didn't mean any harm.
Ya it's cool, it doesn't really matter, it shouldn't- What we both can agree is that Arif is an awesome bassist and lyricist!!protest forever. P.S half my family who are iranian don't like the term persian because of the false representation of them in history...
Yess we can! Working with him on my music was AMAZING! Definitely a drive forward for my guitar work as it's forcing me to up my game and partially rewrite the song (for the better) :]
I'm not using "ARAB" as the UAE, I'm using it as the generic term for middle eastern people sorry!, Persian is a very outdated term and was quite derogetory durng the crusades, but I'm of Mixed race so i don't really use the term.
why would they be making fun of the human abstract, pth and them are buds... not tdwp because they only go 2 guitars.. probably alesana because common... 3 guitars, is it really even needed?
Maylene and alesana are the only bands that come to mind who have 3 guitars, im not sure if maylene still does because of that whole new members thing(I didnt even know about it until recently).
I think they were talking about Alesana
EvanOntiveros24 5 months ago
Smokes, lets go. You can tell he's Canadian who loves TPB.
jheal4 5 months ago
Lol I don't know if they were on that year or not but I imagine that there's a good chance they're talking about whitechapel, and tht makes me happy.
Warheart11 7 months ago
WHAT BAND ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT?...........
IGNsucks 9 months ago
@IGNsucks Maybe Periphery.. like 4 guitarists.
FallenEmpireFunFids 8 months ago
@FallenEmpireFunFids 3 and one bass..............but no way its periphery that band is awesome, I think I found the answer though in the comments
IGNsucks 8 months ago
How much shit did they smoke lol????
wolf1010 1 year ago
lol are they talking about alesana?
zacherypeters 1 year ago 2
Is it just me or does Arif kind of sound like shaggy from Scooby Doo?
PurityCurse 1 year ago
I'm 37, and I'm 13.
xDDDDD
BigJplkoplko 1 year ago 2
they are defiantly talking about alesana!
Punk66158 1 year ago
Josh can be as straight edge as can be but there's no way you can be within 100 feet of Arif and not get a contact high
fromaginator1 1 year ago 11
He's 37. He looks like 25-28ish
gunny104 1 year ago
@gunny104 it was a joke.
buttkick22 1 year ago
As far as the worst band at Warped Tour goes, this video was in 2008. Whitechapel did not play Warped Tour in 2008 and as far I know, neither did Alesana.
archangel312 1 year ago
arif is really cool
DhieP9 1 year ago
Josh is BUILT lol. I'm kinda jealous from my small muscular arms :[
8JobForAMexican8 1 year ago
Does Arif mean Oreskaband?
itakun94 1 year ago
Protest the hero > dog shit > alesana
jradc2551 1 year ago
yeah im sure they were talking about white chapel alesana at least has some pretty catchy riffs and in the new songs they havestring courtets
DarkHeartHaven 1 year ago
@DarkHeartHaven they better not be talking about whitechapel.. whitechapel eats alesana for breakfast.. i do like alesana though.
hahauhaveaidshaha 1 year ago
@hahauhaveaidshaha Whitechapel didn't play Warped Tour in 2008.
archangel312 1 year ago
@DarkHeartHaven pretty sure they are talking about alesana. infact i would put money on the fact that they are talking about alesana
johnodude01 1 year ago
My friend smoked a joint with Arif before, no lie haha
diangoman 1 year ago
@diangoman so did i, it was pretty sweet
Iheartpurplez 1 year ago
who is he sayin is the best band? arif that is, cant make out the accent too good
2kosacko 1 year ago
"this tour was one giant weenie eating contest"
lol.
Ukraz 1 year ago
@MrMetallica1294 Are you sure, cause Alesana run the same type of formula as Protest the hero. In their new stuff the actually did a string quartet. plus they only have 3 guitarists same as whitechapel. No offence but I just listened to some W.C. and all of it sounds the same. I'm not trying to get into a youtube yelling match, it's just hard for me to believe that they would be saying Alesana are not musicians. To me it sounded like they were talking about A7x.
ShipMonster 1 year ago
@ShipMonster yeah except for the fact that they weren't on warped tour. idiot. Alesana don't run the same formula as protest they're not as technically skilled as them. If you say the word polyrythm to them they'd give you a blank stare.
Boooby 1 year ago
@Boooby LOL, I said same "TYPE" formula. Not the exact same formula. The point, which you seemed to have missed completely, is that they are not referencing Alesana. Someone gets "youtube mussels" when they get on here and decides to shit on random bands they don't like. Or the worst case, some ignorant interrupt a CONVERSATION and inject their own insults to cover insecurity. Why bring negativity if it's not asked upon? Plus the statement "idiot." is not a complete sentence, captain detail.
ShipMonster 1 year ago
@ShipMonster wanzuhmadih?
Boooby 1 year ago
Arif is a fucking riot, not sure if he's stoned or drunk off his ass when he plays, but he always looks to be having so much fun.
Meetero 1 year ago 3
Arif is Brutal
chrisgun123 1 year ago
my names arif too ma fucka
TheShadyboy123 1 year ago
Arif for president!
kinnkilla2 1 year ago 2
Arif is a fucking Legend
mentim01 1 year ago 61
@mentim01 yes i agree
TheSharmain 1 year ago
evergreen terrace never liked warped tour. the singer said it once a t a show @ Hamilton St cafe, Bound Brook when cheesy bands that play warped were trying to play hellfest. he basically said they they dont want that.
v669ictor 1 year ago
arif is deff drunk
butt arif looks like mad scrawny compared to josh
Weheartourcustomers1 2 years ago
what band were they talking about when arif was asked whats the worst band on the tour?
Evisam 2 years ago
i wanna no that to if u find out let me now
killswitchengageksw 2 years ago
i think Alesana
MrMetallica1294 2 years ago
That was easy
KillTheHero14 2 years ago
The description is wrong. Funny thing is, Arif is not a metal head at all. I saw a list of 20 random songs from his ipod and like only two were remotely metal, the rest was obscure jazz and stuff
brutallity1966 2 years ago
@brutallity1966 i can believe that, he's so mellow on stage most of the time, just jammin'.
foolface54 2 years ago
hah i knew it. bassists luv jazz
Nastara 1 year ago
@brutallity1966 which is why he's mad crazy on bass
VanillaIceCube88888 10 months ago
I so want to Bass Guitar for Chrismas!
Max8Jizzy 2 years ago
arif can't role play as good as josh!
hAzz2theBeat 2 years ago
You suck
bandiefreakozoid9021 2 years ago
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ya WC sucks balls.
but arif is a dirty hippy. if he wasn't so good at bass i'd hate him.
NeCroughdamus 2 years ago
random
harrvesterofsorrow 2 years ago
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if arif is high then hes faggot
chadhall83 2 years ago
You think Protest is some sXe band?
Get real moron.
Propagandhi900 2 years ago 5
@chadhall83 you dont like drugs?
JDSenterprise 2 years ago 2
whitechapel only have 3 guitarists because they want their live sound to be similar to the record... with harmonized leads (2 guitars) and the rhythm in the back.. it sounds better live.
i'm also guessing its because they didn't want to leave their friend behind who might have jammed with them back in the early days or something.
erenoi 2 years ago
i saw them live.. and nooooooo it did not sound better.
bryan1228 2 years ago
whitechapel fucking owns. and no they are talking about Alesana
MrMetallica1294 2 years ago
@erenoi True. They DO sound better live.
imaybesick 1 year ago
Yes, I checked out White Chapel. Boring Scenester shit from 2002.
TODDJihadAFR 2 years ago 2
aaah man they're on about whitechapel? aaah i love whitechapel lol, but ah well, both these guys seem pretty awesome anyways
CBAalltheway 2 years ago
theyre talking about Alesana
MrMetallica1294 2 years ago
@MrMetallica1294 Are you sure, cause Alesana run the same type of formula as Protest the hero. In their new stuff the actually did a string quartet. plus they only have 3 guitarists same as whitechapel. No offence ( it looks like you love them ) but I just listened to some W.C. and all of it sounds the same. I'm not trying to get into a youtube yelling match, it's just hard for me to believe that they would be saying Alesana are not musicians. To me it sounded like they were talking about A7x.
ShipMonster 1 year ago
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@MrMetallica1294 Are you sure, cause Alesana run the same type of formula as Protest the hero. In their new stuff the actually did a string quartet. plus they only have 3 guitarists same as whitechapel. No offence ( it looks like you love them ) but I just listened to some W.C. and all of it sounds the same. I'm not trying to get into a youtube yelling match, it's just hard for me to believe that they would be saying Alesana are not musicians. To me it sounded like they were talking about A7x.
ShipMonster 1 year ago
Yeah, lol I think he's talkin bout WhiteChapel...
There like... not very creative... WITH a third guitarist. Probably just to play open notes on breakdowns... its really all they do anyway.
MadnessHero3 2 years ago
whitechapel werent on warped tour that year
MrMetallica1294 2 years ago
@MadnessHero3 Well that's Deathcore, I like, someone always will like it, but at the same time, I like more Technical stuff like Protest The Hero or Periphery. It's nice to have a good mix of music, even if some of it is very generic "core" music; it's good for just being heavy and brutal, which is never bad.
VanillaIceCube88888 10 months ago
"and i'm...thirteen" gah i love arif
captaincobragoldspit 2 years ago
I'm assuming for the worst band he'stalking about Whitechapel? Pretty true...
Ironb3rry 2 years ago 2
seriously, they smoked some fat blunts before this lol
pkyamaha17 2 years ago 44
if ur being sarcastic lol if not , hello josh is sxe.
xHECZx 2 years ago
shut the fuck up. god i hate when ppl see baked people everywhere
Stompo11 2 years ago
@pkyamaha17 josh is streight edge.
johnodude01 1 year ago
@pkyamaha17 Probably not... Josh from evergreen terrace is the vocalist of Casey Jones... Very straight edge.
Garvenly 1 year ago
@pkyamaha17 Josh sings for Casey Jones. You know, the straight edge band. GREAT JOB!
xStaycleanx 1 year ago
@pkyamaha17 uh yeah, that's totally possible considering Josh is straight edge
MegaFireShark 1 year ago
...and i'm 13...?!
Arif is a beast <3
kubovciklovesbass 2 years ago
what band was the worst one?
BennyBooIsNotAFoo 2 years ago
"That Was Easy" hahaha fucking hilarious
TheMetalDefiance 2 years ago
i like how we are trying to figure out who is cooler. They are playing Protest The Hero in the background
acousticremote 2 years ago
Arif! You badass. Fuk yeah
KingKrimson89 2 years ago
That was easy.
LMFAO
Apperson62490 2 years ago
whitechapel was not on the tour
lordrahXephon 2 years ago
I AGREE WHITE CHAPEL NEEDS 2 LESS GUITARS 4 is fuckin much
Canadacrue 2 years ago
Except they only have 3 guitarists, and a bassist. They really don't need a third guitarist, but they still have it.
sxfvocalist 2 years ago
Oh I've chosen my words wisely Arif, maybe you should've done the same!
Orbit91 2 years ago
what does he mean "mainstage". is there different stages for the less mainstream bands? because i would be suprised if their was any real musically talented bands in the mainstream part of the tour.
adam2point0 2 years ago
in warped tour there are like 3 stages going on at once... the main stage, is basically for the popular bands.
joshychaos 2 years ago
yup there are 2 huge stages for the "bigger" bands
and a bunch of smaller ones for the less popular ones. although i must say, a lot of the bands that play the mainstages are crap.
awagamgnalaw 2 years ago
@awagamgnalaw Well yeah, cause mainstage is for mainstream, and face it, mainstream is never really good, which is its mainstream; it's easily accessible by people who dont really care about what their music sounds like, and probably care more about how the people look and/or what everyone else is listening to. And to the people who say "it's mainstream because it's really good" no...just look at Lil Wayne, more people like him than don't, and he has no talent. End of. Smiley face :)
VanillaIceCube88888 10 months ago 2
haha
"and i'm 13!!"
tellyouwhhat 2 years ago
HAHAHHA Arif
SMOKES lets go
jasonblitz89 2 years ago 2
at like 1:10 arif just yells out... USA lmfao
italyitalia10 2 years ago
do enjoy having you own bed everynight dime? good food everyday? spending half your day in a van or a bus? might sound easy... try it... i dare ya?
idoleternal 2 years ago
Oh it's so hard to tour.............
dimefagqueerell 2 years ago
maylene and the sons of disaster? they have 3 guitars
naisalan 2 years ago
what band did arif say his favorite was?
BassPlayer466 2 years ago
oreskaband
Pizzarrhea 2 years ago
I hope he was kidding
razor536 2 years ago
they were talking about whitechapel...
wraithofthecruel 2 years ago
There is no way that Whitechapel would ever play Warped Tour.
All the faggot scene kids would break in half.
gunnarisme 2 years ago
I actually saw Whitechapel at the never say die! tour(which I attended only for pth) and although I'm no faggot scene kid I was close to breaking in half just because they were so fantastically boring..way to waste three guitarists
xngr 2 years ago
i think whitechapel is amazing and it doesnt make you a scene kid for liking something through your own free will but yeah you probably just dont understand the composition of the songs or even the reason why they have three guitar (for rythem during harmonies)
BOTULISM666 2 years ago
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A harmony is a rhythm. A melody is what's played over the harmony.
Grifff0 2 years ago
Harmonic content is actually strictly notes and not rhythm. A harmony is actually a counterpoint of the melody and is played over the melody; without the melody a harmony can't exist. Without it's context there is nothing to "harmonize," and it's just a strange-sounding melody.
In short: a harmony is definitely not a rhythm.
bassevanbass 2 years ago 5
definately not. A melody can be described as the 'tune". Of course, this is not always the case, as the definitions of musical terms has changed over the years.
A harmony is what has over the years and with the developments of rock/metal can be described the accompaniment. Historically, harmony was developed to create what we know as chords. It took years and years for people like Palestrina and early Bach to create a system that is still widely used today by people of all genres.
ericmhanks 2 years ago
haha true man!! they would blow some brains!!
BOTULISM666 2 years ago
no they werent whitechapel playing at the warped tour is like michael jackson going to a strip club although it would be funny to see its never gonna happen
BOTULISM666 2 years ago
Its funny becasues hes dead :p
BLOODdrunk6969 2 years ago
who's dead?
kickthecatsballs 2 years ago
lol xD
zylo17vengeance 2 years ago
I'm 37.
And I'm thirteeeen.
Ha. Arif is awesome.
mr95mac 2 years ago 3
I think the band they were talking about is Alesana because they have 3 guitarists lol.
SuicideXSilenceownjb 2 years ago
yea, thts wat i was thinking....but they've come up with a few rly cool three person stuff tho..
FranciscoTheGreat 2 years ago
haha josh is so funny
QUEENFAGHAG 2 years ago
hahahha arif's def high, he always is lol.
shwepper 2 years ago 2
So, does Arif hate Josh? or does Josh hate Arif?
wizdumb 3 years ago
lmao "that was easy"
SilverXXL 3 years ago
haha I love Arif. "I'm 13"
xA7XFORLIFEx 3 years ago
protest owns terrace
hamburgler124 3 years ago 6
Two different types of music broseph, don't compare them.
smartpartsguy425 2 years ago
mmmhm
applehat32 2 years ago
As soon as he said "few too many guitars...."
Alesana. They pissed me off to when I looked over and noticed. They're not skilled enough to take advantage of three guitars.
DaltonMunnal 3 years ago 5
LOL i was trying to find the band that did that on wikipedia!!!
7heory777 3 years ago
"That was easy" Lmfaoo that was frikkin awesome
Notes2Nikki 3 years ago
haha..that Staples button was in my English class last year..."That was Easy"...haha
ApostatesFaith 3 years ago
They are talking about Alesana,for the fact that tons of metal bands hate them,due to them have so many guitars and haveing a light pop sound
Thats1Tyler1Hawkins 3 years ago 3
alesana *cough*.....
summguyh 3 years ago 5
dude, the guys from evergreen terrace are even funnier if you ever have the chance to meet them in person
B1acklight 3 years ago
oh yes especially josh
thebellendsFTW 3 years ago
WTF 2:29
fatalfall311 3 years ago
(alesana sux)
ScottScream 3 years ago 18
lmmmfaooo and im 13!
NickaPalooooza 3 years ago 2
And I'm... 13
beatle96 3 years ago 3
There was a lot of weenie eaters on this tour.
beatle96 3 years ago
its not maylene, cause they weren't on this warped tour. I guess its alesana. they are fucking terrible so w/e.
guitarlove00 3 years ago
maylene were on the tour but they werent talking about them because i actually watched maylene with one of the guys from evergreen terrace
thebellendsFTW 3 years ago
he's either talking about alesana or maylene and the sons of disaster
azj12 3 years ago
arif is talking about alesana
azj12 3 years ago
The fully down lmao mad burn on that band love arif. haha
ikilledmyfriends 3 years ago
Lacks in stage skills? haha this guy has a lot of charisma. He cracks me up as well.
NumeratedDemolinatur 3 years ago
I love Arif, for what he lacks in stage presence he makes up for sick skills and technical ability. Oh how I envy him. Hoping to get some Protest the Hero covers up on here soon. :)
gillylfc 3 years ago
He used to have so much stage presence =/
It's kind of a upsetting that he stopped moving like a maniac. Watch some of their old videos. They're awesome.
ChaosFerret 3 years ago
Thing is he's became so talented at bass. In their old stuff there wasn't much for him to do so he got to jump around. Give a little get a little, you know?
BooBooMcBad 3 years ago
I don't know man. The new songs are definitely more complex musically, but look at him play something like "Nautical" live. Still a pretty crazy bass part, and he still goes pretty crazy. Ah, it's all good though. I still love them all more than I should love anything. Ever.
ChaosFerret 3 years ago
When kezia was out arif was amazing. He always made funny faces and he was more enjoyable to watch than the others in my opinion. But yeah now the music`s gotten more challenging and they`re getting tired of touring so they`re not as energetic :P
kevstew26 2 years ago
shit, im subscribed to you, good comment, arif is still awesome. i loved sequoia throne vid, (arif's bow and arrow)
alexropo 2 years ago
LMFAO XD
darrenskate 3 years ago
hahahahah oreskaband is ill
ilikecakemorethanu 3 years ago
LOL "USA!"
Bradrsnk6vca7nj 3 years ago
I'm 37.
And i'm...13
Fat1Rulez 3 years ago
I'm 37.
And i'm...13
HAHA
ShadowOverInnsmouth 3 years ago
with the whole 3 guitars thing, the new band 'year one' has 3 guitars now.. thats another one they might be talking about, and there also close to evergreen terrace.
rossey70 3 years ago
So..is his name pronouned "R-F" ? I thought it was "R-IF"
NekroShoe 3 years ago
His surname is pretty crazy- Mirabdolbaghi, I'm part arab and you pronounce the entire thing as 'R-F Mee-Rarb-doll-Barggy/Baggy'
numb82 3 years ago
You know Arif is not Arab right?
JoshMaxwell3 3 years ago
He's Canadian technically but His descent is middle eastern, hence the name.
numb82 3 years ago
Ya, while talking to him on Sunday I found out he was Persian (born in Canada as you said). For the longest time I had it in my mind he was Egyptian???
JoshMaxwell3 3 years ago
Sorry, but persia doesn't exist its an old empire that turned into most of the Middle easteren countries and remember 'ARAB' is a race, like being White or Black, being persian which is iranian or egyptian or pakistani means that you're arab.
numb82 3 years ago
I thought he was, but then he specifically told me he was not. I know that Persia became Iran, though I still hear most Iranians that I know call themselves Persian. I certainly do not know enough about that part of the world in general to say much about it, so I just took his word for it when he said he wasn't. Sorry if I offended you, didn't mean any harm.
JoshMaxwell3 3 years ago
Ya it's cool, it doesn't really matter, it shouldn't- What we both can agree is that Arif is an awesome bassist and lyricist!!protest forever. P.S half my family who are iranian don't like the term persian because of the false representation of them in history...
numb82 3 years ago
Yess we can! Working with him on my music was AMAZING! Definitely a drive forward for my guitar work as it's forcing me to up my game and partially rewrite the song (for the better) :]
I see, sorry then!
JoshMaxwell3 3 years ago
iranian arent arab, they r aryan. im iranian too, but i say persian.
Christians2TheLions 3 years ago
I'm not using "ARAB" as the UAE, I'm using it as the generic term for middle eastern people sorry!, Persian is a very outdated term and was quite derogetory durng the crusades, but I'm of Mixed race so i don't really use the term.
numb82 3 years ago
..... aryan...... no. just no. maybe a little greek from when alexander the great was there but not aryan
diomedes39 2 years ago
i think the new human abstract album isint as good as expected but its still really good
wynn224 3 years ago
The only band I can think of that he is talking about is The Human Abstract. And yes, their new album is a homunculus drab of disappointment.
TheDissentience 3 years ago
Maybe they never really said. I think you might be right though. Could it be TDWP?
Video Matt:-P
synthesismagazine 3 years ago
nah its def not TDWP, i think its alesana
vikingRULES 3 years ago
yeah it wouldn't be human abstract because protest and them have supported eachother
killingisfun52 3 years ago
lol i think theyre talking about alesana
iamwaley 3 years ago
yea i think it is alesana
ploox14 3 years ago
deff alesana
thebellendsFTW 3 years ago
why would they be making fun of the human abstract, pth and them are buds... not tdwp because they only go 2 guitars.. probably alesana because common... 3 guitars, is it really even needed?
thebigdirty11 3 years ago
Maylene and alesana are the only bands that come to mind who have 3 guitars, im not sure if maylene still does because of that whole new members thing(I didnt even know about it until recently).
Ieatsouls771 3 years ago
maylene only has 2 guitars now after they all quit
thebellendsFTW 3 years ago
Alesana is probably who he is talking about because they aren't good at all-period!!
numb82 3 years ago
Thanks for stopping by
Video Matt:-P
synthesismagazine 3 years ago