Headzup: Insignificant States

[juancahuidea]

HILLARY AND ITS mirror ********

HILLARY: Mirror, mirror, tell me Who's the most intelligent, prepared, experienced and wise? Your Hillary, your princess.

HILLARY: Thanks mirror, thanks. **** The Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton consult with its mirror, and then began to mourn to impress the unwary. For some time, Hillary has shown that it is a Republican infiltrated into the Democratic Party that this saturated with Republicans. ****

[SoCalFlyer]

Obama is a pimp!!!

[pleazsaythababy]

SHAME ON YOU!!! HILLARY! Obama 08!

[gatsu6969]

Headzup go fuck yourself. hillary or mccain over obama bitches.

[tekman20]

yeah... america sucks.ireland ownz

[squeegiegrrl]

"What to DO about McCain?" solution:  gopteaparty(DOT)com the Republican Tea Party is a direct act of defiance against an unresponsive authority. spread it like a cyberherpe :P

[ihavebeenawakened]

Hello, DISH Network? Uh, yeah, I'm calling today to get my service turned off. Why? Oh, well, the main stream media is no longer the FRONTRUNNER of information for me. They are also not the FRONTRUNNER of my personal finances as I cannot support their lies and deceit. What do I mean? Have you ever watched "Freedom to Facism", "The Money Masters" or "Loose Change"? Oh, you haven't, well you should check them out. BAM! Another convert!

[Gitmaker55]

"Zeitgeist" the movie as well.

Every body turn off your TV, and give it time.

There are a lot of things to UN-LEARN.

[vocalbrush]

the election is a joke. why do we bother. its just a game of chess for the elite.

[grnmessiah]

If you only get the big states like NY, CA and TX--you will lose.

[Davidthorough]

What?

What!?!

WHAT?!?!?

This is really disorienting...headszup makes fun of a Democrat!?!?!

Oh, yeah... wait a minute... it's the ONCE out of a HUNDRED TIMES that you do that!!!

I forgot. :-/ Well, now you've filled your token quota and we can look forward to weeks of uninterupted ridicule of Republicans.

headzup says... "Democrats... GOOD!!! Republicans... EVIL!!!" You showed your true stripes when you said NOTHING about bill clinton's hideous behavior in S. Carolina. tsk

[RWright2006]

meh... shut up davidthorough

[kansanchief]

Every damn video headzup post you have the same ol rhetoric being spouted!

DUDE GET A LIFE and dont worry bout this! lmao You show ya TRUE SELF when you do this type of crap!

ITS GETTING OLD SEEING A LIL BOYS MIND IN A COMMENT OF THE SAME O SAME O from YOU!

GET A LIFE SONNY BOY!

GET A LIFE

[Atheiossupremos]

obama hath pwntith dat crazyth bitcheth.

[S1Genocide]

Screw Obama Check out my Anti Obama playlist

[driubi]

lol - good one - why does every "anti-obama" playlist on youtube disable comments and ratings? because they are all extremely week, and can't withstand the slightest bit of criticism. I'm starting to think that these accounts are set up by Clinton's campaign.

[PopeKurt]

this is so blown out of proportion, which is exactly what happens when states are given a "value"

[CheeezMaster]

pwnt

[gymer15]

unimportant loser states, obama seems to win all those.

[sinlaael]

Hey man, you gotta play the game.

Don't like the game? Change the rules.

[noBush322]

HAHA ouch!

[bebepopsr]

..i like this but i just want to tell all that i dont care who is president as long as it is a democrat, they all have the same i deals just a dif person realy and if you disagree then reply

[crazycatfguy]

Hillary is on record for supporting one world government. Seems strange to me that anyone would vote for someone for president who wants to end our national sovereignty eventually. Obama also belongs to the CFR so you may be right. They do have the same idea.

[frellthat]

*sigh*

Barack Obama is not a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. You can look up their member list on Wikipedia anytime you want, and he is not on it.

And Hillary, for that matter, does not "want to end our national sovereignity". I wonder sometimes if you Ronbots even know the difference between fact and interpretation anymore.

[crazycatfguy]

If you have not seen Hillary's speech at the 1999 World Federalist societies Norman Cousin's global government award ceremony you can find it on my channel.

[frellthat]

Nevertheless she does not "want to end our national sovereignity". That's just your interpretation. I'm not a Hillary supporter, in fact I hate her, but I do have some respect for the truth. The reason you Ronbots lost this election was because everyone got tired of hearing your distort the positions of those who disagree with you.

[crazycatfguy]

What do you think one wold government means? Check the website for world federalist society.

[frellthat]

I'm not going to be drawn into a debate with you over whether international government is a violation of national sovereignity. The fact is that when you state it like that, "Hillary Clinton wants to end our national sovereignity," that is a distortion and you know it.

[crazycatfguy]

I apologize for taking time away from your FOX TV time. Until you get off your ass and do the research that I have done you have no idea if I am distorting it or not.

[frellthat]

What "research"? It is no secret who is and is not a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, and Michelle Obama is not. Any "evidence" you have that you think "links" her to CFR is beside the point; she is NOT a member and you're just spouting bullshit when you say she is.

[crazycatfguy]

Give me a link to the CFR membership.

[frellthat]

mega. nu:8080 / ampp / roundtable/CFRA-Elist . html

[crazycatfguy]

Exactly there is no official membership list is there? Plenty of blogs about it though.

[frellthat]

Yes, there are official lists, and that's where these come from. Furthermore, people who are in the CFR do not make a secret out of it. It's not some secret society like the Klan or the Freemasons.

[crazycatfguy]

Find the list on the CFR web page and send me a link to that. I have not found it in just the 3 hours I tried.

[frellthat]

You can also consult the CFR's own list on their website: cfr . org / about / people

Wikipedia has them also, as I said before. It's not a secret.

[crazycatfguy]

Been there done that. Directors and staff only.

[frellthat]

Under the "staff" heading is a list of all current Council fellows. A "fellow" is anyone who is a member of a council. What do you want it to say, just "member"?

[crazycatfguy]

Wikepedia list obama as a current notable member. Your source not mine.

[frellthat]

Yes, and if you look at the page's edit history, you'll see that people keep removing his name because there's no evidence that he is a member, yet Ronbots keep putting it back on without any annotations or sources cited.

I just removed it again - my first contribution to Wikipedia. :)

[crazycatfguy]

I guess denial is better than psychotropic medication. If there is no evidence he is a member then there is no evidence he is not. Funny that you send me to wikipedia and then take out the evidence you wanted me to look at.

[frellthat]

I sent you to CFR's own list before I sent you to Wikipedia. Since Barack's name does not appear on that list, it would seem that you are the one in denial. You Ronbots can assail Wikipedia all you want but you can't make falsehood interchangeable with fact.

[frellthat]

Notice the last person who added Obama's name to the list can't even spell right, giving "Hillary"'s name only one "L":

11:52, 4 January 2008 67.182.251.209 (Talk) (48,512 bytes) (Added Hilary & Obama) (undo)

And from another editor:

14:12, 27 October 2007 88.115.163.137 (Talk) (47,355 bytes) (→Notable current Council members: Once again, there's no PROOF that Obama,Giuliani or any other presidential candidate would be a member of the CFR. Check the membership records!)

[frellthat]

Apparently some people think that Wikipedia is a repository for rumors instead of facts. It would be acceptable to put the words in somewhere, "Some allegations have been made that Barack Obama is a fellow of the CFR," and cite some sources. But just sticking his name in like he's on their member list is not kosher.

[crazycatfguy]

There are no sources. CFR does not release their membership. Wonder why that is.

[frellthat]

I just pointed you to CFR's own list of all of their fellows and staff in the entire world.  CFR does not release their membership? What are you talking about?

[crazycatfguy]

I checked your link even though I had been there before. Maybe you mistyped. Try it again.

[frellthat]

Just go to cfr/about/people, and click on "staff". You get to a list 33 pages long of all of their fellows, associates, staff and other members all over the world, from their most prestigious fellows all the way down to the lowliest office assistant. Barack Obama is not a part of their organization!

[frellthat]

I know you want to believe that he is some kind of "secret" member of the CFR whose name is not published along with all of the other members, but it is simply not true.

[crazycatfguy]

Send me a link that shows all members of the CFR from their web site or stop wasting my time. There are thousands of members.

[frellthat]

I just gave you a direct link.  If you can't figure out how to read it, that's your problem. My printer says that list would be 33 pages if I wanted to print it, so I'll consider it fairly comprehensive. It would not much much sense for them to have omitted Obama's name considering they don't seem to have a problem listing all the other prominent ones they have on there.

[frellthat]

Here it is again, although I shouldn't have to hold your hand through a simple website:

cfr . org / about / people / staff . html

[crazycatfguy]

Board of directors. Internatial. staff etc. NO FUCKING MEMBERS.

[frellthat]

A member of a learned society is called a "fellow", you neanderthal, not a "member". Just scroll down. Try using that handy "search" feature on your browser.

[crazycatfguy]

A member of a council is called a council member. There are over 2000 members. How many names did you find in that list?

[frellthat]

I have a feeling, purely out of prejudice, that whatever source it was that told you there were over 2,000 members on the Council of Foreign Relations was about as reliable as the source that told you Barack Obama was part of it. In other words, just a rumor.

The CFR is not a secret club like the Klan, with members who join just to be part of a society. It is a non-profit organization and anyone who belongs to it is employed by it.

[frellthat]

Or if not employed, has some position through a fellowship or some other program that requires them to participate in study groups and do research and such.

[crazycatfguy]

One way to find out for sure. Spend some time doing research. I am disabled and have had about 14 hours a day to do research for nearly 6 years now. I don't have to rely on sound bytes and blogs for info.

[frellthat]

Fine... Have it your way.

[crazycatfguy]

There is no my way. I am not afraid to change my mind when presented with evidence that I am wrong and I thank the people when they point it out. You have not done so.

[frellthat]

Whatever evidence you have that Barack Obama is a member, I don't think it's enough that you can simply say "Barack Obama is a member of CFR" in the comments of a YouTube video as if it were an uncontested fact.

[crazycatfguy]

An yet you said he wasn't as if it was an uncontested fact.

[frellthat]

Yes, that's true.

[crazycatfguy]

Since we aren't getting anywhere can we agree to disagree?

[frellthat]

you're just mad because you want to build up CFR into the conspiracy you want it to be, some kind of secret society akin to the Legion of Doom, of whom know one knows who might be a member, so everyone can be suspected. But it's not like that, it's just a typical nonprofit political organization, which happens to work for policies that you disagree with.

[crazycatfguy]

David Rockeffeller talks about its mission in his 2002 book "memoirs". Your just mad because you got caught by someone who knows more about this subject than you do.

[frellthat]

No, I think I'm mad because I'm trying to discuss a subject with someone willing to completely make shit up about it.

[crazycatfguy]

One way to find out for sure. Get off your happy ass and do some research. If that idiot Bush can find the internets long enough to do the google then I have faith that you can too.

[frellthat]

I'm sure if I wanted to do some "research", I could come up with all kinds of "evidence" that Barack Obama was secretly a member of their organization. Oooh, he gave a speech at their building! Perhaps his wife's cousin is a member! You can speculate all you want about Barack having "connetions" to the CFR, but just going off and saying he's a member is demonstrably untrue.

[driubi]

just to let you know crazy - alex jones isn't a credible source of research.

[crazycatfguy]

I know Alex from when he had a cable access program in Austin in the 90's. I have yet to find anything he said that did not turn out to be true.

[marrokiu]

i know he predicted 9/11, but didn't he say a terrorist attack would happen in 06?

[frellthat]

Why can't you simply say, "Hillary Clinton supports international government?" You always have to spin it off in some sinister way.  You might as well have said "Hillary Clinton wants to destroy our nation." And you could justify such a remark the same way you just did - "Well, international government WOULD destroy our nation" - but you know damned well that's not what she wants to do.

[crazycatfguy]

Watch the damn 2 part video I posted on or about dec 25th. They describe exactly what changes they want in the UN for this to happen.

[frellthat]

Yes, some people feel that what the world, including the US needs, is more international leadership. And if you interpret that as a violiation of national sovereignity, fine; but Hillary Clinton does not, so it's still a distortion for you to glibly remark, "Hillary Clinton wants to end our national sovereignity," as if ending our national sovereignity were actually a goal for her. Just tell the fucking truth!

[buttars05]

I don't know whether Obama's on CFR, but one thing I do know is that Wikipedia is unreliable.

[julianhpike]

Okay folks; Obama is NOT a member of the CFR, however, his wife is ...

You do the math.

[frellthat]

No, his wife is NOT. Neither Barack Obama nor Michelle Obama are members of the CFR. Barack Obama is the only member of the Senate Foreign Relations Commitee who is NOT a member of the CFR. You Ronbots love your conspiracy theories so much that you just can't resist making them up.

[julianhpike]

A) What the hell is a Ronbot?

B) I live in Chicago, and I voted for Obama in 2004 ... and it is known that Michelle Obama is on the Board of Directors in the Chicago branch of the CFR.

C) Why did you reiterate that Barack was not a member when I had plainly said that as well?

D)Please be a little more polite. No need to be so disrespectful even if it is youtube.

[frellthat]

"...it is known that Michelle Obama is on the Board of Directors in the Chicago branch of the CFR."

No, that is not "known". In fact, that is exactly what is known not to be the case. You can look up CFR's list of directors on their own website and Michelle Obama is not on it, and has never been on it. Stop drinkin the kool-aid already.

[WakeUpObamaborg]

frellthat,

YOU ARE WRONG! Michelle Obama is on the Board of Directors of the Chicago Global Council.

Remove ALL spaces:

w w w . thechicagocouncil . org / chicago _ council _ board _ directors . php

Michelle Obama is listed as the Vice President for Community and External Affairs.

"The Chicago Council on Global Affairs, founded in 1922 as The Chicago Council on Foreign Relations..."

Source: w w w . thechicagocouncil . org / chicago _ council _ history . php

[frellthat]

LOL!

That's the Chicago Council on Global Policies, not the Council on Foreign Relations. The two are not related.

Jesus, why is it that you "Obama is CFR" people never seem to be able to do some basic research? The CFR is incorporated under New York State Law; you can obtain a copy of their membership from the state government at Albany any time you want, and neither Barack Obama nor Michelle Obama are members.

[MrsDoGood]

frellthat, do you need to take remedial English? What part of Michelle Obama serves on the CHICAGO COUNCIL ON GLOBAL AFFAIRS is hard to understand?

If you had bothered to go to the links I provided earlier it is CLEARLY STATED this organization was funded by CFR! Again from their own website:

"The Chicago Council on Global Affairs, founded in 1922 as The Chicago Council on Foreign Relations..."

Source: w w w . thechicagocouncil . org / chicago_council_history.php

Remove ALL spaces!

[frellthat]

Yes, I read it. However 1) It does not say there is any connection to the Council on Foreign Relations - the Chicago Council on Foreign Relations of 1923 is not necessarily connected in any way to the national Council on Foreign Relations today - and even if there were, it does not change the fact that they are not the same organization today, and Michelle Obama is not a member of the CFR.

[MrsDoGood]

READ: "The Chicago Council on Global Affairs, FOUNDED in 1922 AS THE CHICAGO COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS..."

Source: w w w . ccfr . org/

The CFR and the CGC continue to HOLD MEETINGS TOGETHER. Read the vitae of the panelists listed below:

w w w . thechicagocouncil . org / chicago _ council _ event _ past _ prog _ detail . php?eventid=1744

Michelle Obama is in bed with the CFR and so is her husband Barack.

[winklestraat]

Brilliant as always!

[PresidentJackFord]

The only bad part about it is, this is all true.