word paragraphs! i got to my dude cuz this dude ummm *freddycheeny* had the nerve to say rakim,dre,and wutang have done more for hiphop than jay-z so you know i gotta paragraphs for his ass lol dude is buggin
and what Dre does for hip-hop is not from his lyrics since he doesnt even write his own. Jay-Z wrote Still Dre. LOL. But he did bring snoop and Em into the game which is huge!
you outcha mind dude 1. rakim is da man but he only had like a 4 year reighn as soon as da 90s came he wasnt rockin like he was in late 80s 2.dre was part of nwa cool which aint last long then chronic classic and alot of beats but his work is 50/50 he dont write his own shit he braught snoop and em thats big but cant compare to da man whos nickname is HOVA!!! aka GOD!!!! wow like do you understand to have a nickname like that and people ACTUALLY call you that weather its his peers or rivals...
as far as wutang i love them and they was big in mid 90s but by 98 and they 2nd group album they wasnt the same now lets get to why jay-z has done more lets start off when biggie and pac past they left a void that needed to be filled and alot people try to fill it but nobody has been more consistant musicly or biz wise first rapper to be non athlete to have his own shoe first actual rapper to have successful clothing line this is all putting hiphop on da map owns a % of a nba team .........
he was at the united nations!!!! talking too other presidents from other countries!!! people like wtf that rapper is doing there?? lamoo oh nothing just helping AFRICA! GET CLEAN WATER! you probably like what that has to do with hiphop? right? he is hiphop! everything he does people will associate him as that rapper and if you just wanna stick to music like he says read my rapsheet 3 CLASSICS! and got more hits then all you mention together and did i mention a grammy? and lyricly dats no brainer
he got it from someone else who did. In Blue Magic Jay says
"This 86 state of mind that I'm in/In my prime,so for that time I'm Rakim"
Right there, he says AT HIS PRIME he is comparable to Rakim.
2) Dre's flow is basic. I wont argue against that, and yeah he uses ghost writers, but the amount of artist he has produced and brought up, hell, producing Eminem ALONE is a big contribution to rap as he was the first white rapper who actually has respect within the hip-hop community,
and has achieved the ridiculous sucess he has. besides him,Dre produced Snoop Dogg who is easily one of the most internationally well known rappers. Dre has produced tons of other succesful musicians, not just rappers. More than just producing people, Dre was part of the group that basically invented gangsta rap. NWA changed rap forever, for good or bad, it definately chnaged rap.
3) Wu-Tang brought rap back from the West Coast G-Funk movement that Dre and Snoop created, and brought in that gritty real, anti pop, top of the charts bull. the RZA changed the way that the instrumentals behind the lyrics sound. in an interview with Scratch magazine Kanye West said this "Wu-Tang? Me and my friends talk about this all the time... We think Wu-Tang had one of the biggest impacts as far as a movement.
you mentioning everything i said about dre and about rakim i aint tryna discredit the god mc the 18th letter mr rakim at all but it is what it is his reighn at the top was shoter then leppercons and yeah he and make up a new rhyme sceme nobody saying no and as far as wu bring the east back RIGHT AND WRONG when dre snoop had on smash there was one name with one album that brought the east back and that was nasty nas then wutang then biggie and wu became da for front of the movement
i couldnt keep posting so i actually got sut off this is the end of my last argument.
We think Wu-Tang had one of the biggest impacts as far as a movement. From slang to style of dress, skits, the samples. Similar to the [production] style I use, RZA has been doing that"
Jay-Z is (in his lyrics at least) the cockiest person on earth, lol, the man nicknamed himself Jay Hova (reference to Jahova =GOD) after hearing it enough in his songs people will call him that, it doesn't matter what the
nickname is.Now, i didnt know about Jay being at the united nations, and i know he is great with charity, and besides being a consistant great rapper he is an amazing bussiness man.But still, in my opinion, though very influencial, not the most infulencial rapper ever.
on a side note, i think its pretty cool that you can actually have a civilized discussion about rap on youtube. honestly it usually turns into FUK YUU, JAY-Z IS DA SHIT!!11! which is why i rarely join in.
ugghh yeah at united nations discussing how to bring clean water to africa which they was even a mtv special when he actually went to africa and all them lil kids was so happy just to have clean water and for the record my thing is not that you say he isnt the biggest influential rapper but saying dre,rakim,and whoever else you mention when you can go to any suberb and say rakim they be like who? dre they be like oh dude wit snoop dog and em say jay-z they say big pimpin baby he rocks! lmao
ugghh yeah at united nations discussing how to bring clean water to africa which they was even a mtv special when he actually went to africa and all them lil kids was so happy just to have clean water and for the record my thing is not that you say he isnt the biggest influential rapper but saying dre,rakim,and whoever else you mention when you can go to any suberb and say rakim they be like who? dre they be like oh dude wit snoop dog and em say jay-z they say big pimpin baby he rocks! lmao
i know wutang had a big impact but style of dress? you mean wu wear? or litterly dressin? cuz i recall dudes who follow they style looked grimey cuz they always try to look like they still in shaolin or sutten i seen odb walking bare footed in bk in some vid lol unless it was raek and ghost who was always on some fly shit others hell nah and fam umm you can say i want you to call me your majesty dont mean im actually gonna call you that lol hova! far from being god but he work god damn hard :)
and now that i really think about it you cant really be seriouse i mean i dont know where you from but im from nyc and if jay-z stops wearin jerseys and wears button ups everybody stops and wears button ups! if he wears his yankee hat a certain way people mock that certain way if he poses in pics a certain way to rep his label people that have no clue why he throws up the diamond sighn do in pics just cuz they saw him do it hes like what ohprah is to women you cant be serious rakim? dre? lmaooo
thats dress thing was a Kanye quote, i think he meant the style of dressing not the clothing line.
and yeah rakim and dre got nothing to do with fashion (at least not now, but look back at NWA with the compton hats n shit)
still thats not the point, the style of dress is one of the less important facts, as far influence on music is concerned, Jay has sold alot, and gained alot of popularity and respect, and has influenced the game, but not more than "anyone else ALIVE!"
whats wu style of dressing? GRIMEY! baggy jeans and timbs thats NYC in da
90s kanye is from chicago so he just relates to wu but that was NYC! look at the time matter face that was da hiphop look and compton hats? more like oakland raiders hat and big whoop i remember when the all white air force ones was being called da JIGGA'S! here niggas started wearin iceberg cuz dude was rockin it like come on b be serious its disgusting ya lil love/hate with jay is very hipacritical wheres da love?
and the whole package means alot when da word influence is concerned from ya gear 2ya tracks it all wrapped in a whole and jay-z has been more influentual and as time keep going by you will see you just talking from a older perpective cuz rakim and dre been out long enough so when that new generation came you saw the influence there but as this new generation rises you gonna see it more ask lil wayne!! matter fact dont ask him cuz he will never admit where he got that jay swagger in da carter 1
ask noe from jim jones crew that dude exactly like hov ask sercario if you ever heard of him why he got dropped from angie martinez label a few years ago ask why when niggas is using da word BUT! and YUP! they saying it like a ablib ask them why before da beat drop they go uhuh uhuh uh! ask why in vids they using those hand movements instead of the other old ones ask them why they dont yell or have turn they voice grunchy just to spit g'd up shit
ask them why they not a rapper they just a hustla that happens to rap? ask them why they saying they raps like they having a convo witchu instead of performing it to you ask kanye whos his big brother and who in order for him to be number one what he has to do to his big brother ask why they flow so non chalauntley almost like they laughing cuz its too easy ask why they sip cristal then why they boycotted it and started drinking ace of spade and rosay matter fact ask 50 why he drank armindale
all i gotta say is biggie said in juicy i never thought hiphop will take this far and fast foward to da future he would be glad to see where it is now and why and because of WHO? come on man before hov they was many after him they will be none he is the one! da fucking micheal jordan of da mic recorders what seperates him from others? hmmm they RECORD! he RECALLS cuz he really been there b4 :) and im a pac,big,NAS,hov fan so is not like im just stuck on him or sutten it just is what it is
oh and one last thing about dressing umm ask why in 03/04 niggas jeans had a logo that looked like a mcdanolds sighn these aint diesel nikka these is evisu!!!! :) from marcy to madison square! sweeeet! :P dude wrote a letter to da summer lmaooo i guess is true 10+ summers CRITICS might NOT admitted but NOBODY in rap did quite like I! did it :) ahhh let me go watch the mtv awards when biggie an dpacs mom give the award whoops i mean pass the torch to hov :) dre and rakim r u serious? lamoooooo
@PGFIGHTS thanks I was just getting ready to say! If folk have lost a since ear for music then I understand Y beats have taken over 1st of all the hip hop game confuse good business for great entertainment! an JZ name is shawn cory carter he make BS 2! this is BS tim step that jigga boo beats up! U C how this camel step on folk he even collab wit Sade!? didn't he do a song wit her!
@PGFIGHTS thanks I was just getting ready to say! If folk have lost a since ear for music then I understand Y beats have taken over 1st of all the hip hop game confuse good business for great entertainment! an JZ name is shawn cory carter he make BS 2! this is BS tim step the jigga boo beats up! U C how this camel step on folk he even collab wit Sade!? didn't he do a song wit her!
I liked this sog back 98 or 99 but hardly ayone remembered it but me...." she be sayn no no no then yeah yea yeah like she destiny's child/ but we about to cook without a recipe now"
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ynayin 2 months ago
miss the 90s!!
CruzitoRomania 1 year ago
damn niggas write paragraphs now days
Treeeezy4 2 years ago 7
word paragraphs! i got to my dude cuz this dude ummm *freddycheeny* had the nerve to say rakim,dre,and wutang have done more for hiphop than jay-z so you know i gotta paragraphs for his ass lol dude is buggin
donstatusnyc87 2 years ago
i feel u
Treeeezy4 2 years ago
cause theres a lot to say.
ChayDawg64 2 years ago
lmao!
BlaccBoii 2 years ago
the hottest beat ever..
shiadoll 2 years ago
Did you forget about "Dirt off my shoulder"?.....
elvaliente 2 years ago
i didnt kno so many people hated this song. lol
HBKFuckingOwns 2 years ago
oh, I forget to mention that Timbo is like one of the hottest producers on the planet so hating on the gods of the game is a no, no!
righteousemusic 2 years ago
I dont understand you haters, do you realize who this is? J is the god ya heard!
righteousemusic 2 years ago
swing and a .... miss.
MRCHAMP124 2 years ago
omg i hate this song
ijustkeepitreal 2 years ago
Probablly one of the worst songs i've heard by Jay..
But calling him Gay-Z is hilarious since he has Beyonce and he's done more for hip-hop than anyone else ALIVE!
10 straight #1 Albums tying Elvis for #2 ALL TIME. Only behind the Beatles!!
ramostar 2 years ago
ok, i love jay,probably my favorite rapper but Wu-Tang,Rakim, and Dre have done tons more for hip-hop than he has.
freddycheeny 2 years ago
I wouldnt say tons more, but they're all legends.
and what Dre does for hip-hop is not from his lyrics since he doesnt even write his own. Jay-Z wrote Still Dre. LOL. But he did bring snoop and Em into the game which is huge!
ramostar 2 years ago
you outcha mind dude 1. rakim is da man but he only had like a 4 year reighn as soon as da 90s came he wasnt rockin like he was in late 80s 2.dre was part of nwa cool which aint last long then chronic classic and alot of beats but his work is 50/50 he dont write his own shit he braught snoop and em thats big but cant compare to da man whos nickname is HOVA!!! aka GOD!!!! wow like do you understand to have a nickname like that and people ACTUALLY call you that weather its his peers or rivals...
donstatusnyc87 2 years ago
as far as wutang i love them and they was big in mid 90s but by 98 and they 2nd group album they wasnt the same now lets get to why jay-z has done more lets start off when biggie and pac past they left a void that needed to be filled and alot people try to fill it but nobody has been more consistant musicly or biz wise first rapper to be non athlete to have his own shoe first actual rapper to have successful clothing line this is all putting hiphop on da map owns a % of a nba team .........
donstatusnyc87 2 years ago
he was at the united nations!!!! talking too other presidents from other countries!!! people like wtf that rapper is doing there?? lamoo oh nothing just helping AFRICA! GET CLEAN WATER! you probably like what that has to do with hiphop? right? he is hiphop! everything he does people will associate him as that rapper and if you just wanna stick to music like he says read my rapsheet 3 CLASSICS! and got more hits then all you mention together and did i mention a grammy? and lyricly dats no brainer
donstatusnyc87 2 years ago
dam man chill. look i love jay-z, dont get me wrong, i probably have more of his music on my iTunes than any other single artist. BUT
1) Rakim brought in internal ryhme to rap. Look at this line from Jay-Z's Fellin' It
"I keep it realer than most I know your feelin it/Cristal on ice I like to toast I keep on spillin it"
classic Jay-Z style, but it was developed by Rakim, he was doing that way before Jay was, and if Jay didnt get that from him,
freddycheeny 2 years ago
he got it from someone else who did. In Blue Magic Jay says
"This 86 state of mind that I'm in/In my prime,so for that time I'm Rakim"
Right there, he says AT HIS PRIME he is comparable to Rakim.
2) Dre's flow is basic. I wont argue against that, and yeah he uses ghost writers, but the amount of artist he has produced and brought up, hell, producing Eminem ALONE is a big contribution to rap as he was the first white rapper who actually has respect within the hip-hop community,
freddycheeny 2 years ago
and has achieved the ridiculous sucess he has. besides him,Dre produced Snoop Dogg who is easily one of the most internationally well known rappers. Dre has produced tons of other succesful musicians, not just rappers. More than just producing people, Dre was part of the group that basically invented gangsta rap. NWA changed rap forever, for good or bad, it definately chnaged rap.
freddycheeny 2 years ago
3) Wu-Tang brought rap back from the West Coast G-Funk movement that Dre and Snoop created, and brought in that gritty real, anti pop, top of the charts bull. the RZA changed the way that the instrumentals behind the lyrics sound. in an interview with Scratch magazine Kanye West said this "Wu-Tang? Me and my friends talk about this all the time... We think Wu-Tang had one of the biggest impacts as far as a movement.
freddycheeny 2 years ago
you mentioning everything i said about dre and about rakim i aint tryna discredit the god mc the 18th letter mr rakim at all but it is what it is his reighn at the top was shoter then leppercons and yeah he and make up a new rhyme sceme nobody saying no and as far as wu bring the east back RIGHT AND WRONG when dre snoop had on smash there was one name with one album that brought the east back and that was nasty nas then wutang then biggie and wu became da for front of the movement
donstatusnyc87 2 years ago
i couldnt keep posting so i actually got sut off this is the end of my last argument.
We think Wu-Tang had one of the biggest impacts as far as a movement. From slang to style of dress, skits, the samples. Similar to the [production] style I use, RZA has been doing that"
Jay-Z is (in his lyrics at least) the cockiest person on earth, lol, the man nicknamed himself Jay Hova (reference to Jahova =GOD) after hearing it enough in his songs people will call him that, it doesn't matter what the
freddycheeny 2 years ago
nickname is.Now, i didnt know about Jay being at the united nations, and i know he is great with charity, and besides being a consistant great rapper he is an amazing bussiness man.But still, in my opinion, though very influencial, not the most infulencial rapper ever.
on a side note, i think its pretty cool that you can actually have a civilized discussion about rap on youtube. honestly it usually turns into FUK YUU, JAY-Z IS DA SHIT!!11! which is why i rarely join in.
freddycheeny 2 years ago
ugghh yeah at united nations discussing how to bring clean water to africa which they was even a mtv special when he actually went to africa and all them lil kids was so happy just to have clean water and for the record my thing is not that you say he isnt the biggest influential rapper but saying dre,rakim,and whoever else you mention when you can go to any suberb and say rakim they be like who? dre they be like oh dude wit snoop dog and em say jay-z they say big pimpin baby he rocks! lmao
donstatusnyc87 2 years ago
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ugghh yeah at united nations discussing how to bring clean water to africa which they was even a mtv special when he actually went to africa and all them lil kids was so happy just to have clean water and for the record my thing is not that you say he isnt the biggest influential rapper but saying dre,rakim,and whoever else you mention when you can go to any suberb and say rakim they be like who? dre they be like oh dude wit snoop dog and em say jay-z they say big pimpin baby he rocks! lmao
donstatusnyc87 2 years ago
i know wutang had a big impact but style of dress? you mean wu wear? or litterly dressin? cuz i recall dudes who follow they style looked grimey cuz they always try to look like they still in shaolin or sutten i seen odb walking bare footed in bk in some vid lol unless it was raek and ghost who was always on some fly shit others hell nah and fam umm you can say i want you to call me your majesty dont mean im actually gonna call you that lol hova! far from being god but he work god damn hard :)
donstatusnyc87 2 years ago
and now that i really think about it you cant really be seriouse i mean i dont know where you from but im from nyc and if jay-z stops wearin jerseys and wears button ups everybody stops and wears button ups! if he wears his yankee hat a certain way people mock that certain way if he poses in pics a certain way to rep his label people that have no clue why he throws up the diamond sighn do in pics just cuz they saw him do it hes like what ohprah is to women you cant be serious rakim? dre? lmaooo
donstatusnyc87 2 years ago
thats dress thing was a Kanye quote, i think he meant the style of dressing not the clothing line.
and yeah rakim and dre got nothing to do with fashion (at least not now, but look back at NWA with the compton hats n shit)
still thats not the point, the style of dress is one of the less important facts, as far influence on music is concerned, Jay has sold alot, and gained alot of popularity and respect, and has influenced the game, but not more than "anyone else ALIVE!"
freddycheeny 2 years ago
whats wu style of dressing? GRIMEY! baggy jeans and timbs thats NYC in da
90s kanye is from chicago so he just relates to wu but that was NYC! look at the time matter face that was da hiphop look and compton hats? more like oakland raiders hat and big whoop i remember when the all white air force ones was being called da JIGGA'S! here niggas started wearin iceberg cuz dude was rockin it like come on b be serious its disgusting ya lil love/hate with jay is very hipacritical wheres da love?
donstatusnyc87 2 years ago
and the whole package means alot when da word influence is concerned from ya gear 2ya tracks it all wrapped in a whole and jay-z has been more influentual and as time keep going by you will see you just talking from a older perpective cuz rakim and dre been out long enough so when that new generation came you saw the influence there but as this new generation rises you gonna see it more ask lil wayne!! matter fact dont ask him cuz he will never admit where he got that jay swagger in da carter 1
donstatusnyc87 2 years ago
ask noe from jim jones crew that dude exactly like hov ask sercario if you ever heard of him why he got dropped from angie martinez label a few years ago ask why when niggas is using da word BUT! and YUP! they saying it like a ablib ask them why before da beat drop they go uhuh uhuh uh! ask why in vids they using those hand movements instead of the other old ones ask them why they dont yell or have turn they voice grunchy just to spit g'd up shit
(ask fat joe why he stopped)
donstatusnyc87 2 years ago
ask them why they not a rapper they just a hustla that happens to rap? ask them why they saying they raps like they having a convo witchu instead of performing it to you ask kanye whos his big brother and who in order for him to be number one what he has to do to his big brother ask why they flow so non chalauntley almost like they laughing cuz its too easy ask why they sip cristal then why they boycotted it and started drinking ace of spade and rosay matter fact ask 50 why he drank armindale
donstatusnyc87 2 years ago
all i gotta say is biggie said in juicy i never thought hiphop will take this far and fast foward to da future he would be glad to see where it is now and why and because of WHO? come on man before hov they was many after him they will be none he is the one! da fucking micheal jordan of da mic recorders what seperates him from others? hmmm they RECORD! he RECALLS cuz he really been there b4 :) and im a pac,big,NAS,hov fan so is not like im just stuck on him or sutten it just is what it is
donstatusnyc87 2 years ago
oh and one last thing about dressing umm ask why in 03/04 niggas jeans had a logo that looked like a mcdanolds sighn these aint diesel nikka these is evisu!!!! :) from marcy to madison square! sweeeet! :P dude wrote a letter to da summer lmaooo i guess is true 10+ summers CRITICS might NOT admitted but NOBODY in rap did quite like I! did it :) ahhh let me go watch the mtv awards when biggie an dpacs mom give the award whoops i mean pass the torch to hov :) dre and rakim r u serious? lamoooooo
donstatusnyc87 2 years ago
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freddycheeny 2 years ago
lool gay Z is funny
BonethugLady 2 years ago
two pimps are better than one!
ineed1shotoflove 2 years ago
check out the im on a boat remix on my page
thisismichaelsmithtv 3 years ago
HELLA WACK
PGFIGHTS 3 years ago 11
Hell yea!!
FUCK GAY-Z!!!
MrWicked61671 3 years ago 2
@PGFIGHTS thanks I was just getting ready to say! If folk have lost a since ear for music then I understand Y beats have taken over 1st of all the hip hop game confuse good business for great entertainment! an JZ name is shawn cory carter he make BS 2! this is BS tim step that jigga boo beats up! U C how this camel step on folk he even collab wit Sade!? didn't he do a song wit her!
TheJqwest09 10 months ago
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@PGFIGHTS thanks I was just getting ready to say! If folk have lost a since ear for music then I understand Y beats have taken over 1st of all the hip hop game confuse good business for great entertainment! an JZ name is shawn cory carter he make BS 2! this is BS tim step the jigga boo beats up! U C how this camel step on folk he even collab wit Sade!? didn't he do a song wit her!
TheJqwest09 10 months ago
I liked this sog back 98 or 99 but hardly ayone remembered it but me...." she be sayn no no no then yeah yea yeah like she destiny's child/ but we about to cook without a recipe now"
icecreameboni 3 years ago
kool
theshadowboy607 3 years ago