I know you now have an iPhone as well as the iPod Touch, do you have an Apple Bluetooth keyboard as well? If you do try using it with your iPhone or iPod Touch, I've tried using a Bluetooth keyboard with my brother's iPad and VoiceOver, it works really well, but the command set is a bit different, nevertheless it does work. If you can, try it out and see what you think.
I am legally blind, and have been thinking about saving up for an ipad. I have heard great things about it, and I already have an ipod touch. So, I basically know how to use an ipad. Assistive technology for the blind is extremely expensive (as mensioned in the video)! I am hoping to be able to get my hands on an ipad of my own!
Please check out my channel. Its about my life as a blind teen. Thanks in advance!
Keep in mind that the 10 hour battery life that they are mentioning is with the screen on. If it has a screen curtain mode, like the iphone, then we should expect quite a bit more time from the battery.
I've watched the Keynote presentation on the Apple website, and Steve Jobs didn't even mention that the iPad was accessible, it's only because of you that I even know about this. Like you, i'm hoping that if you use the physical keyboard dock the command set between Mac OS and the iPad is the same or at least similar. I'm really not all that interested in the iPad myself, but now I know that it's accessible I'm more inthusiastic about it, this really is very exciting.
jetfly15 made a gd comment a lot of people who really use braille do pefer their bralle displays and i also belive i would rather have a real keyboard how gd does the the on screen keyboard on the i pad owrk with voice over
Since it's just like the iPhone, except bigger, it's a learning curve, but very usable. There's an item in VoiceOver. If you double tap the screen with three fingers, the speech is disabled. However, the VoiceOver cursor & navigation is still active. What this tells me is that there's a hole in the command structure, which I feel can be filled with Braille Display support. Let's wait until it comes out to submit final judgment.
It's an over-sized Ipod I'm afraid. You can get a good netbook for $250 that can multi task. And netbooks have a real keyboard. I actually bought an Iphone, and the virtual keyboard sucks for the visually impaired. And they charge extra for a real keyboard on the Ipad? BTW - I returned my Iphone, and cancelled my contract. Plus - they try to lock their devices down to a proprietary market. You can get around that, but it's a pain. Apple believes in charging for everything. Netbook for me!
Viruses are so over-hyped. I've used windows for YEARS, and NEVER had a virus. Microsoft's security suite is free, and pretty good. I wouldn't let that hold me out of Windows. I've worked in Tech support, and can tell you that most people mistakenly think they have a virus, when all they've done is change a setting that they didn't need to mess with anyway.
This comment didn't make it, but I did make a response video based on your comments. A friend of mine who's an iPhone user was a guest in the video. It will be uploaded shortly (may already be up if anyone else is reading this at a later time).
I wish I could say the same but I got adware and I was using Microsoft security suite and it didnt notice it until I did a FULL scan, and it did and I told it to remove it. A month later and a few other scans I find that it said that still have the same adware on my computer. So even after it removed it I still had it. Even with protection im still not protected.
I never said their security suite was the best. It is pretty good for a free and included security suite. I personally use a better suite, but they're at least trying. When the Mac is hit with the first serious virus attack (and it will happen), they likely try to name it the "iBug" and make it sound like a new feature. Besides, are you sure the "adware" is really a problem? Many scans show things like cookies as adware. MANY cookies are simply identifiers for sites such as eBay, Amazon, etc.
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Apple is great about making their products accessible. Google and Microsoft aren't even close in that area. It's not the main reason I prefer Apple, but it definitely makes a big difference as a legally blind person. They could easily get away with offering little or no accessibility like their competition and only a very small number of people would take note, but they don't. That means something.
There is a command in VoiceOver to disable speech while keeping VoiceOver active, just like on ur iPod Touch. This tells me Braille could very well happen. We will see when it comes out in March.
I agree. It's only useful for sight impared people. Knew this review was coming up. Horrible device for sight privilaged people, good device for sight-impared people.
Agreed. I'm highly against this product being on the commercial market though.
Also 10 hours is a lie. More like 6 hours if you've ever used Apple products.
WM & a screen reader are rather unstable, and many who use these devices are NOT comfortable with the initial setup process, mainly about it requiring sighted assistance. Same with the Archos 9. You can setup the iPad without any sighted assistance. That's how all AT for the blind should work.
Have you tried enabling voice over on the Iphone for the first time? You have to navigate to Settings, General, Accessibility, then turn on VoiceOver or Zoom. After that - it's ok, but it is nearly impossible for a blind low vision user to enable Accessibility on the Iphone out-of-the-box without sighted assistance. Not to mention - the VoiceOver software tends to break up and drop in and out on the iPhone. Glad Wal-Mart and AT&T have a decent return policy!
To enable VoiceOver on the iPhone, since you must go through iTunes anyway, there is a checkbox during setup. Check that box, and VoiceOver will be enabled from the get-go.
Luckily - I used my CCTV, and enabled it myself, but I didn't know that. I just didn't like it at ALL. I guess everyone has different tastes. I got my money back.
I know you now have an iPhone as well as the iPod Touch, do you have an Apple Bluetooth keyboard as well? If you do try using it with your iPhone or iPod Touch, I've tried using a Bluetooth keyboard with my brother's iPad and VoiceOver, it works really well, but the command set is a bit different, nevertheless it does work. If you can, try it out and see what you think.
Lachlant1984 6 months ago
@Lachlant1984 I do not have a bluetooth keyboard at this time. :)
rml695 6 months ago
I am legally blind, and have been thinking about saving up for an ipad. I have heard great things about it, and I already have an ipod touch. So, I basically know how to use an ipad. Assistive technology for the blind is extremely expensive (as mensioned in the video)! I am hoping to be able to get my hands on an ipad of my own!
Please check out my channel. Its about my life as a blind teen. Thanks in advance!
ChattyChelby 9 months ago
@ChattyChelby I did, subscribed, too :)
rml695 9 months ago
@ChattyChelby I also sent you a friend request, not sure if you saw it yet.
rml695 9 months ago
@ChattyChelby I can't reply to comments on my profile (not sure why), so yeah. GOod luck in school. LOL :)
rml695 9 months ago
you will probably get 20 hours when wifi is turned off and screen on lowest brightness. Blind people don't need the screen remember?
swordkillax 1 year ago
@swordkillax I was going off of the figures I had, and do be aware, that I believe this video was made before the iPad was released.
rml695 1 year ago
Keep in mind that the 10 hour battery life that they are mentioning is with the screen on. If it has a screen curtain mode, like the iphone, then we should expect quite a bit more time from the battery.
ESAN100 2 years ago
I've watched the Keynote presentation on the Apple website, and Steve Jobs didn't even mention that the iPad was accessible, it's only because of you that I even know about this. Like you, i'm hoping that if you use the physical keyboard dock the command set between Mac OS and the iPad is the same or at least similar. I'm really not all that interested in the iPad myself, but now I know that it's accessible I'm more inthusiastic about it, this really is very exciting.
Lachlant1984 2 years ago
jetfly15 made a gd comment a lot of people who really use braille do pefer their bralle displays and i also belive i would rather have a real keyboard how gd does the the on screen keyboard on the i pad owrk with voice over
jls1114 2 years ago
Since it's just like the iPhone, except bigger, it's a learning curve, but very usable. There's an item in VoiceOver. If you double tap the screen with three fingers, the speech is disabled. However, the VoiceOver cursor & navigation is still active. What this tells me is that there's a hole in the command structure, which I feel can be filled with Braille Display support. Let's wait until it comes out to submit final judgment.
rml695 2 years ago
It's an over-sized Ipod I'm afraid. You can get a good netbook for $250 that can multi task. And netbooks have a real keyboard. I actually bought an Iphone, and the virtual keyboard sucks for the visually impaired. And they charge extra for a real keyboard on the Ipad? BTW - I returned my Iphone, and cancelled my contract. Plus - they try to lock their devices down to a proprietary market. You can get around that, but it's a pain. Apple believes in charging for everything. Netbook for me!
VideoGuyNC 2 years ago 2
True. I've been a Mac user for so long that, even WITH virus protection, I'm worried about viruses on Windows.
rml695 2 years ago
Viruses are so over-hyped. I've used windows for YEARS, and NEVER had a virus. Microsoft's security suite is free, and pretty good. I wouldn't let that hold me out of Windows. I've worked in Tech support, and can tell you that most people mistakenly think they have a virus, when all they've done is change a setting that they didn't need to mess with anyway.
VideoGuyNC 2 years ago
This comment didn't make it, but I did make a response video based on your comments. A friend of mine who's an iPhone user was a guest in the video. It will be uploaded shortly (may already be up if anyone else is reading this at a later time).
rml695 2 years ago
I wish I could say the same but I got adware and I was using Microsoft security suite and it didnt notice it until I did a FULL scan, and it did and I told it to remove it. A month later and a few other scans I find that it said that still have the same adware on my computer. So even after it removed it I still had it. Even with protection im still not protected.
ibpointless2 2 years ago
I never said their security suite was the best. It is pretty good for a free and included security suite. I personally use a better suite, but they're at least trying. When the Mac is hit with the first serious virus attack (and it will happen), they likely try to name it the "iBug" and make it sound like a new feature. Besides, are you sure the "adware" is really a problem? Many scans show things like cookies as adware. MANY cookies are simply identifiers for sites such as eBay, Amazon, etc.
VideoGuyNC 2 years ago
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Apple is great about making their products accessible. Google and Microsoft aren't even close in that area. It's not the main reason I prefer Apple, but it definitely makes a big difference as a legally blind person. They could easily get away with offering little or no accessibility like their competition and only a very small number of people would take note, but they don't. That means something.
mthwkln 2 years ago
There is a command in VoiceOver to disable speech while keeping VoiceOver active, just like on ur iPod Touch. This tells me Braille could very well happen. We will see when it comes out in March.
rml695 2 years ago
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I don't think that the iPad is compatible with external usb devices either so that might be an issue. o.o
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LoliComplicated 2 years ago
i was wanting it to run snow leopard
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I agree. It's only useful for sight impared people. Knew this review was coming up. Horrible device for sight privilaged people, good device for sight-impared people.
Agreed. I'm highly against this product being on the commercial market though.
Also 10 hours is a lie. More like 6 hours if you've ever used Apple products.
LoliComplicated 2 years ago
There are a lot of devices that will be coming this year that meet that criteria.. Archos 9, HP Slate, etc.
Not to mention all the 1ghz windows mobile devices that are already out.
oolong2 2 years ago 6
WM & a screen reader are rather unstable, and many who use these devices are NOT comfortable with the initial setup process, mainly about it requiring sighted assistance. Same with the Archos 9. You can setup the iPad without any sighted assistance. That's how all AT for the blind should work.
rml695 2 years ago
Have you tried enabling voice over on the Iphone for the first time? You have to navigate to Settings, General, Accessibility, then turn on VoiceOver or Zoom. After that - it's ok, but it is nearly impossible for a blind low vision user to enable Accessibility on the Iphone out-of-the-box without sighted assistance. Not to mention - the VoiceOver software tends to break up and drop in and out on the iPhone. Glad Wal-Mart and AT&T have a decent return policy!
VideoGuyNC 2 years ago
To enable VoiceOver on the iPhone, since you must go through iTunes anyway, there is a checkbox during setup. Check that box, and VoiceOver will be enabled from the get-go.
rml695 2 years ago
Luckily - I used my CCTV, and enabled it myself, but I didn't know that. I just didn't like it at ALL. I guess everyone has different tastes. I got my money back.
VideoGuyNC 2 years ago
That's good. :)
rml695 2 years ago