Well the church is in the process of being bricked up. That should be complete by end of october. God is blessing perfecting church and we are building this church without a bank loan but by Faith. Our church raise $66,000 in one service with everyone participating n God showed himself strong!
God bless you all and may the Lord continue to increase you in His power, Perfecting Faith Church. And pray for Divine Love Fellowship as we transitioned to a new edifice.
One man giving God's Truth in love will go farther than a hundred men arguing about it and calling each other names. Sometimes we have to "shake the dust from our feet" and leave it in God's hands. I pray that we ALL continue to STUDY to show ourselves APPROVED BY OUR FATHER!! Be Blessed.
Brothers and sisters in Christ, I think it is great that so many of us study our bibles so we can give an answer, in season and out of season. Please remember that the Word says to "study to show thyselves approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of Truth."
I was at the website and they were showing what the finish building is suppose to look like and man does it look soo beautiful.Man oh man God is gonna really bless Perfecting Church in this new building.
@amarvinwinansfan it may be old but best believe that's some straight up to sho'nuff holy ground up in that piece...that building will never ever be the same once we're thru with it! lol
KCMI89.....how can i have a conversation with you when u are justifying MARVIN making an IMAGE that the bible says not to do...
The BIBLE says DONT MAKE ANY IMAGE..that means no IMAGE at all...so OBVCIOUSLY you the one that CANT read....NO IMAGE....NONE..i mean how many times do i have to express or say that...READ your bible..its IDOLATRY...the bible say DONT make ANYTHING
Just to complete I Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the CROSS is to them that perish foolishness; but unto which are saved it is the power of GOD!
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oh i cant BELIEVE my eyes, this is CLEARLY IDOLATRY. the bible says in EXODUS 20:4 THOU SHALT NOT MAKE UNTO THEE ANY GRAVEN IMAGE. this WOOD cross he just layed hands on and PRAYED over is an IMAGE that MARVIN WINANS had MADE (see how this commandment is CLEARLY broken.) The cross was CAPITAL punishment LONG before CHRIST, and well after. Yet someone is going to JUSTIFY this evil.
Secondly, HOSEA 8:14 FOR ISRAEL HATH FORGOTTEN HIS MAKER AND BUILDETH TEMPLES....wow...yet u will justify still
The preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness. Anyone offended by the cross is in need of prayer. In the wilderness, the people who were bitten by snakes, were told to look and live. That was a type and shadow of the cross. Not an argument, just some facts to consider.
The cross is the symbol of redemption and salvation through Christ. You have all those OT scriptures but do you believe in the Gospels? We used the symbol of the cross because when our Lord and Savior died upon a cross it just wasn't just a ordinary cross but the very cross that bore our sins. Do you believe in that?
@kcmi89 OLD TESTAMENT lol....well u just made it very EVIDENT that u dont even UNDERSTAND this new TESTAMENT u lay claim to....ofcourse i believe in the Gospels....lol...Christ said BELIEVE on him as the SCRIPTURE(oldTestament) has said...and if you had a CLUE of what old testament actaullay says, then u would soon realize that PAUL and Christ both quoted from the OLD TESTAMENT very often, but YOU have not so learned CHrist as the TRUTH is in CHRIST...AMEN
I do understand the Old Testament as well as the New Testament and if you knew the bible you knew that it tell us to preach the cross. For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. (1 Cor1:18) Please tell where in the NT as well as the OT where it says that churches should not have the symbol of the cross. Having a cross outside your church is not idolatry. We don't worship the cross we worship who died on the cross.
the SCRIPTURE clearly says not to even make a GRAVEN IMAGE of any sort. so before we even begin this VERY SAME video proves that 1 of TEN COMMANDMENTS is alreadt broken, and seeing that i myself am very familiar with the CHRISTIAN doctrine it makes it CLEAR to my understanding that this man has his FOLLOWERS worshipping on SUNDAY under the CONSTATINE EMPIRE. whose worship does he invoke? BIBLE SABBATH or ROMAN CONSTATINE SUNDAY? no offense to Israel, just clearing up issues in the BODY of CHRIST
We as human beings are created in image of God. We are creative beings. What you are saying based on your exact words is that man is can not make anything is carved or it is idolatry. Why woud God tell Israel not to make anything carved out of wood if thats all they had? THATS CAUSE HE DIDN'T! Exodus 20:4-5 says Thou shalt not make any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Read the whole thing
If you realize it is says not make any CRAVEN idol out anything in heaven or on the earth below. Is that what you see in the video? no, it is a cross and ass I said before its nothing but a symbol not a idol. He says in vs. 5 not to worship it is for he is a jealous God. In vs 2-5 he confronts idolatry. Do you see anyone bowing down to it as if it was a God. Do you pastor winans praying to it? No. Read your word and the whole word and shut up.
First scriptures are not made for us to argue with so let me make it clear that i'm not trying to argue . But for clarification of the scriptures when God gave that law to Moses it concerned the ordinance of worship or the way God would be worshipped, it talk about making an image and worshipping it as God, or in the place of God, am image is a teacher of lies becuz it insinuates that God has a body, whereas he is an infinite spirit, and the cross was not graven into a image of God or
nor in the place of God, be careful of taking scriptures out of context! The cross was never any image of God or in the place of God! ( Exodus 20:4 also coincides with Isaiah 40:18 and as for Hosea
also speaks of Idols which are images worshipped as God please think twice before you quote scriptures unless u have the full meaning of the scripture! Now on the other hand there commandment that says thou shalt not bear false witness thy neighbor which means don't speak falsely against thy neighbor
John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
Thank you Bishop-Elect Winans for your Ministry in my life past 18 plus yr, I thank you for your Vision for the Ministry and pray for the all Naysayers on the VIsion this is why they are NOT our Bishop.
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youngtay211 4 months ago
when is your church family expecting to move to its new home?
shardyshard22 8 months ago
Well the church is in the process of being bricked up. That should be complete by end of october. God is blessing perfecting church and we are building this church without a bank loan but by Faith. Our church raise $66,000 in one service with everyone participating n God showed himself strong!
youngtay211 1 year ago
God bless you all and may the Lord continue to increase you in His power, Perfecting Faith Church. And pray for Divine Love Fellowship as we transitioned to a new edifice.
GsShay 1 year ago
One man giving God's Truth in love will go farther than a hundred men arguing about it and calling each other names. Sometimes we have to "shake the dust from our feet" and leave it in God's hands. I pray that we ALL continue to STUDY to show ourselves APPROVED BY OUR FATHER!! Be Blessed.
Called2Worship 1 year ago
Brothers and sisters in Christ, I think it is great that so many of us study our bibles so we can give an answer, in season and out of season. Please remember that the Word says to "study to show thyselves approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of Truth."
Called2Worship 1 year ago
How long is it gonna take to build this thing? Is it ever going to get finished?
MrYourbiggestcritic 1 year ago
I was at the website and they were showing what the finish building is suppose to look like and man does it look soo beautiful.Man oh man God is gonna really bless Perfecting Church in this new building.
kcmi89 1 year ago
WOW I hope this time he finally gets this church built! that church on Van Dyke is so old!!!! lol and y'alls comments are off the chain! lol
amarvinwinansfan 2 years ago
@amarvinwinansfan How long has he been trying to build it?
jontroibumpus 2 years ago
Well I.m back in Ga now but I think like 5 yrs now!
amarvinwinansfan 2 years ago
@amarvinwinansfan it may be old but best believe that's some straight up to sho'nuff holy ground up in that piece...that building will never ever be the same once we're thru with it! lol
Mystyque1 1 year ago
KCMI89.....how can i have a conversation with you when u are justifying MARVIN making an IMAGE that the bible says not to do...
The BIBLE says DONT MAKE ANY IMAGE..that means no IMAGE at all...so OBVCIOUSLY you the one that CANT read....NO IMAGE....NONE..i mean how many times do i have to express or say that...READ your bible..its IDOLATRY...the bible say DONT make ANYTHING
deanparker82 2 years ago
Just to complete I Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the CROSS is to them that perish foolishness; but unto which are saved it is the power of GOD!
ez357 2 years ago
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oh i cant BELIEVE my eyes, this is CLEARLY IDOLATRY. the bible says in EXODUS 20:4 THOU SHALT NOT MAKE UNTO THEE ANY GRAVEN IMAGE. this WOOD cross he just layed hands on and PRAYED over is an IMAGE that MARVIN WINANS had MADE (see how this commandment is CLEARLY broken.) The cross was CAPITAL punishment LONG before CHRIST, and well after. Yet someone is going to JUSTIFY this evil.
Secondly, HOSEA 8:14 FOR ISRAEL HATH FORGOTTEN HIS MAKER AND BUILDETH TEMPLES....wow...yet u will justify still
deanparker82 2 years ago
The preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness. Anyone offended by the cross is in need of prayer. In the wilderness, the people who were bitten by snakes, were told to look and live. That was a type and shadow of the cross. Not an argument, just some facts to consider.
TheWordCenterChurch 2 years ago
The cross is the symbol of redemption and salvation through Christ. You have all those OT scriptures but do you believe in the Gospels? We used the symbol of the cross because when our Lord and Savior died upon a cross it just wasn't just a ordinary cross but the very cross that bore our sins. Do you believe in that?
kcmi89 2 years ago
@kcmi89 OLD TESTAMENT lol....well u just made it very EVIDENT that u dont even UNDERSTAND this new TESTAMENT u lay claim to....ofcourse i believe in the Gospels....lol...Christ said BELIEVE on him as the SCRIPTURE(oldTestament) has said...and if you had a CLUE of what old testament actaullay says, then u would soon realize that PAUL and Christ both quoted from the OLD TESTAMENT very often, but YOU have not so learned CHrist as the TRUTH is in CHRIST...AMEN
deanparker82 2 years ago
I do understand the Old Testament as well as the New Testament and if you knew the bible you knew that it tell us to preach the cross. For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. (1 Cor1:18) Please tell where in the NT as well as the OT where it says that churches should not have the symbol of the cross. Having a cross outside your church is not idolatry. We don't worship the cross we worship who died on the cross.
kcmi89 2 years ago 2
the SCRIPTURE clearly says not to even make a GRAVEN IMAGE of any sort. so before we even begin this VERY SAME video proves that 1 of TEN COMMANDMENTS is alreadt broken, and seeing that i myself am very familiar with the CHRISTIAN doctrine it makes it CLEAR to my understanding that this man has his FOLLOWERS worshipping on SUNDAY under the CONSTATINE EMPIRE. whose worship does he invoke? BIBLE SABBATH or ROMAN CONSTATINE SUNDAY? no offense to Israel, just clearing up issues in the BODY of CHRIST
deanparker82 2 years ago
We as human beings are created in image of God. We are creative beings. What you are saying based on your exact words is that man is can not make anything is carved or it is idolatry. Why woud God tell Israel not to make anything carved out of wood if thats all they had? THATS CAUSE HE DIDN'T! Exodus 20:4-5 says Thou shalt not make any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Read the whole thing
kcmi89 2 years ago
If you realize it is says not make any CRAVEN idol out anything in heaven or on the earth below. Is that what you see in the video? no, it is a cross and ass I said before its nothing but a symbol not a idol. He says in vs. 5 not to worship it is for he is a jealous God. In vs 2-5 he confronts idolatry. Do you see anyone bowing down to it as if it was a God. Do you pastor winans praying to it? No. Read your word and the whole word and shut up.
kcmi89 2 years ago
First scriptures are not made for us to argue with so let me make it clear that i'm not trying to argue . But for clarification of the scriptures when God gave that law to Moses it concerned the ordinance of worship or the way God would be worshipped, it talk about making an image and worshipping it as God, or in the place of God, am image is a teacher of lies becuz it insinuates that God has a body, whereas he is an infinite spirit, and the cross was not graven into a image of God or
Kingroe78 2 years ago
nor in the place of God, be careful of taking scriptures out of context! The cross was never any image of God or in the place of God! ( Exodus 20:4 also coincides with Isaiah 40:18 and as for Hosea
also speaks of Idols which are images worshipped as God please think twice before you quote scriptures unless u have the full meaning of the scripture! Now on the other hand there commandment that says thou shalt not bear false witness thy neighbor which means don't speak falsely against thy neighbor
Kingroe78 2 years ago
"If I be lifted up" Keep on lifting Him up Pastor. It will work out.
NextMogul 2 years ago
John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
Thank you Bishop-Elect Winans for your Ministry in my life past 18 plus yr, I thank you for your Vision for the Ministry and pray for the all Naysayers on the VIsion this is why they are NOT our Bishop.
oneanangel 2 years ago
GLORY TO GOD, This is absolutely awesome Perfecting. Just the beginning of the great things in store for this awesome Ministry.
rozbrad 2 years ago
Praise God for the new beginning @ Perfecting Church
BrothaRollins 2 years ago
Awesome job on the video!!!
@Jessicalm, it was muddy out there but we had a great time!!!
MzCoats 2 years ago
he wearing a suit and sneakers!! Love ya Marvin and thanks for the post! it was JUST yesterday!
jessicalm145 2 years ago
awesome doc... keep doing what you doing bishop! I cant wait to see the new church
simdrummer2 2 years ago