kayak roll clinic: learn how to do a combat roll

[imsuperawesome97]

dude, nice PFD tan

[5084204]

Funny...Ive learnt how to roll on your video. Thanks, mate!

[thinkwrong]

carry on doing the high brace and you will cause a injury

[TOULSON13]

Keep our arm bent a bit more when doing the high braces also don't lean out as far

[markhartnett51]

agree completly with @JPN55 i know plenty of people with dislocations from the high brace or j lean as you call it

i would say let yourself capsize and roll instead much safer idea and its what i would always do

[ntilley88]

I realise that the person is only learning, but the way he does the "j-lean" or high brace is a disaster waiting to happen. Thats the old school version.

The way that he has his arm extended out away form the boat????

If he does that on a river, midflow and his elbow hits a rock, he can say good by to his elbow and shoulder. Also he is leaning back way too much. The high brace should be done either directly perpendicular to the boat or to the front. NOT THE BACK.

Tuck that arm in.....

[gryphontaboo]

The rodeo back deck roll is a bad example/demonstration! The roll should finish at the front deck. Not finish with a half sweep back..

[SeadartVSG]

@gryphontaboo Why should you finish on the front deck? ... sitting upright with a paddle in the water is a stable position that allows you to take your next stroke in moving water or brace for a incoming wave - or scull up if you can't quite make it. THe half sweep back is very helpful is you are trying to roll something like a waveski.

[gryphontaboo]

@SeadartVSG The main reason for initiating a back deck rodeo roll is when you've lent onto the back deck of the kayak when you've flipped. Finishing at the front deck with your paddle and body allows you to be ready for a forward stroke and even be ready for a sweep roll. Where is the paddle position for a forward stroke and sweep roll? at the front deck. no?

[gryphontaboo]

@SeadartVSG If you do a half sweep back to finish then you are not doing a back deck rodeo roll, you are simply moving from your back deck to front deck to sweep roll. Here's a good example of a back deck rodeo

[bosediddly]

To come on here and say things like, "Your Technique sucks", quoting one Zethd gets me looking around for his technique, or video. People that do that lack a lot in their makeup.

[zethd]

Your technique sucks...

[bosediddly]

@zethd you belong in the idiot group

[bosediddly]

Respond to this video... The video is a good teacher.

[u4987]

Slick! I wish I could roll like that.

[alphatauran]

"Screw roll" not good for serious white water. Very hard to unlearn.

[psykeout1]

great video guys, best rolling tutorial ive seen yet, the underwater filming really helps

 especially with the nose cam. nice one

[ry13an]

like JPN55 said your high brace is a sure fire way to do some shoulder damage man

[TLamparter]

the music is a little stupid here. i had a hart time to understand what they where saying!

[jfotogs]

I do see now where your doing your back deck roll as a rodeo... they're pretty much the same thing. But yeah, nice and comprehensive roll arsenal

[jfotogs]

Your back deck roll was just a c-sweep in the backseat. When doing back-decks, you don't really set and you dont tuck, you leave your body open and exposed while sweeping the paddle across the water behind the boat... theres some good videos on here of an accurate back deck roll. Other than that, nice vid

[chwparker]

Is rolling as easy as it looks here? I ask because I'm taking my first white water kayaking lessons this weekend and the rolling part is what scares me the most.

[ralfcoder]

Good video, but lose the sound track. It's distracting and doesn't contribute anything to learning this skill.

[crashaloha]

Looks to me like its in the hips not the shoulders

[Core404]

It's true people watch your shoulders when trying to roll for the first time, it looks easy but that's what I thought and I dislocated my right shoulder not fun, now I've had shoulder issues for the last 2 years, now I can't even attempt to roll, sucks but I'm still happy I can mountain bike snowboard and do yoga! I can still river kayak but half to wet exit every time I flip.

[vanlagan]

Every roll in this video exposes your face to the river bottom if you blow the roll and go back down. Bad technique!!!

[sgiquiardo]

el kayak es un axiom ? que modelo ?

[southern1084]

dude, your shoulders are going to be f'd in t-minus 1 year... trust me, the high brace is the devil

[southern1084]

dude, your shoulders are going to be f'd in t-minus 1 year...  trust me, the high brace is the devil

[CT2507]

hey, great video guys... seeing someone doing the roll many times and in diferent ways is actualy a lot better than a lot of instructions...and only watching it once or twice.

[benhunt222]

great video, best video i have seen! want to go try it now!

[baloo750]

This is a great video. Thank you for making it!

[speedavecl92]

Hey man I just started looking into kayaking this week.. The capsizing looks like it could be pretty dangerous. For instance what if you cant upright yourself? Do kayaks capsize often?

[benman1234]

i watched the vid about 5 times then went out for my frist time ever in a kayak and rolled it due to this vid. im not joking around. so thanks guys :)

[GDDLS]

Is there any way to recuperate, once you are under, I mean your Kayak is up to the brim of water??. I can roll and all, but I have also ready about "Wet exit", and "re-entry", but even if you roll, how the heck do you get above water??

[byrnecraig456]

very well done!thanks man help a lot!

[rteintros]

Look at the paddle as you bring it round and you will keep your head in the water. Another problem I have is that I twist my torso alot, hitting my head off the back of the boat.

[outdoortony]

if you have watched this video then pay attention to the comments about shoulder dislocation do not practice the "j" thingy.. make sure your head comes out of the water last, imagine you are a slinky spring (the kind that walk down stairs) as youleave the water you are "poreing" yourself back into the boat just like a slinky

[ajn43]

You need to try your best to make your head the last thing out of the water

[somethingsomewhere16]

he makes it look so easy..i can get myself above the water to be able to grab a breath but then i fall back in again, i lose my leverage right at the end.. :/

[somethingsomewhere16]

he makes it look so easy..

[firestorm361]

dagger agent for me (:

[97Arran]

Thanks guys great video, just the way i like to learn

[AJRJB15]

shoulder dislocation will happen keep to a box and dont lean back because you then have nothing more to give crap back deck should be a sweeping motion like the rodeo version

7:56 puffa fish

[dinseynmileyfan]

cottons cute :P some good rool examples there showed me exactly what is needed x

[JPN55]

You can dislocate or separate your shoulder doing high braces this way. Even deep sculls can do the same. Head could be a bit higher on the set up. Both hands should clear the water in the set-up; the right hand doesn't clear. Head should be the LAST thing to come out of the water, and its not.

[stowe4561]

Best rolling video I have come across on here.

[PUDDLEPUNK]

Dude, awesome, i am gonna try a back deck for the first time tomorrow. wish me luck. thanks for the video.

[1982jeepcj8]

@PUDDLEPUNK

back deck is a roll of last resort before you wet exit. It is a sure fire way to smash your face of every little thing in a white water scenario, I could not shave for months after getting my face river shredded trying it.

[TheAndresMendez]

Great video, thanks for sharing this, you make it look so simple!

[loitzlouis]

0:20

Do you want to keep your shoulders? That's a great way to dislocate them

[AmazingGosha]

By doing so aggressive J-Lean roll (see this video at 0:40) you can easily dislocate your shoulder I would recommend to practice a Low brace roll (used by many play boaters) or back deck roll.

[dibsey9753]

awesome video, thanks, still cant do a roll, but i am sure this will help.

[h0b0768]

i learned to roll in the rpm and it might be the easiest boat on earth to roll

[EuanHunter72]

I would agree with some of the other comments. Certainly not a good way to learn to support or roll. Could lead to serious shoulder damage if you use it on a river or with a sea kayak. Must tuck your arms in more.

[razorflight]

Have to agree, you're fully extending that arm/shoulder and putting it into a real bad spot.  Need to tuck those elbows in more and protect that shoulder joint.

[Paddle2See]

Some really nice video here! Thanks for sharing. I'll have to see if I can do that back deck rodeo roll with my sea kayak! I'll just echo the others about those high braces...popped my shoulder messing around with those, watch out. Also, the paddle is diving very deep on those sweep rolls, just a little change in angle to keep it nearer the surface will make a big difference. Great job on the video :)

[JPN55]

High braces like you are doing are sure-fire route to shoulder dislocation or separation. Better to do paddle stroke drills such as sculling, etc.

[onlywhenpissed]

@JPN55 have you a clue about chlorine schiaticism?

[n1ck3o7]

Very good!!! On thing I tend to teach the scouts when they are starting to roll is to angle the blade so that it is going to go across the top of the water and allows more pull. Obviously, you are already very good at the screw roll but a little extra lift can make the difference sometimes.

[MrFunky754]

Awesome video. I just started learning the basic c-c tonight.

[77Bluecheese]

So, why are they wearing BA's in a pool?

[cyphre117]

@77Bluecheese so its more like if they were on the river.

You know, with less flexability.

[irishlostboy]

those braces and rolls are a sure fire way of shoulder dislocation.

[w0rldd0minat0r]

Otherwise really good video, esp. your back deck rodeo, and I liked the 1 handed eskimo roll ;) The skinhead needs goggles lol! Can't believe he does everything with his eyes closed, I'd struggle so much, so used to having my eyes open!

[w0rldd0minat0r]

Your 'J Lean' is a sure fire way to pop your shoulder out, you need to keep your elbows tucked into your body more.

[mesabott9]

Three shoulder surgeries can attest to that.

[PVCPiper92]

is that muse or linkin park?

[aniyn]

Coldplay isn't it?

[PVCPiper92]

ah yes, i have there CD as well must be

cheers mate

[seeingstones]

nice vid. Its great to pause and show different body positions. Ive played it while instructing...

[AaronMbly]

Great video, its given a good idea how to roll.

im guessing your paddling a dagger rpm?

[ajn43]

yep, a good ole trusty RPM

[stewbit]

Very nice video, excellent soundtrack. Good quality footage. What camera have you used? Keep posting. Well done.

[ajn43]

I used a Olympus 8000

[ldockery63]

Finally a video that really shows what a roll looks like... Thanks for posting, helped me a bunch!

[mjk221176]

Legendary! For someone who loves kayaking, and is trying to explain what a roll involves - top notch. Cheers Drew and Jordan - nice one