Gay Children? What? Str8 at 8?

[GuineaPigsRule123]

I found out I was busexual at 6 I looked at this guy and thought he was soooooooo hot. I'm 11 now and have the same feelings for boys and girls... Satan I don't think you can pick what sex you want to be atractted to... When I get older I need both... The stick and the hole

[rodgierad]

Great video. It's good to hear someone comfortable enough with themself to listen to others who may be different.

[Stephanreyu]

Always good for a laugh. Go ahead and check the date of my newest video.

[DuhhOrElse]

I'm Christian, and I have nothing against gay people, so don't group a bunch of people. And I get why people stereotype, but that's wrong, because not all gay people are alike, not all Christians are alike, not all sraight people are alike.

[kiransimon15]

so if that was your experience then all other peoples experience becomes hogwash? wow!

In a hetero culture where all u see is images of str8ness! it's natural to imagine yourself with girls.. when ur young and sexually immature.. but as you grow it all changes :)

[captianx10]

pre-school girlfriends are so awesome :)

[CandidKage]

i had a boyfriend when i was five!!! proof of hogwash

[captianx10]

hogwash ownz :D

[dieXatomic]

and of course people drag jesus into this..

holy shit. people + gay people = one track mind to jesus

[PizzaHuuut]

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[Robfsumcc]

Its funny you mention that. I didn't know I was gay until I was 11 and started having serious feelings for a guy friend of mine. But looking back I had feelings for different guys as far back as eight. I was watching powerrangers and my older sisters friend made a comment about one of the people in the show named adam saying he was cute. My first thought was yeah he is, the I thought WAIT! BOYS ARNT SUPPOSED TO THINK THAT!!! gay at eight? perhaps...

[Satantransvertdeath]

The thing is though, you can change your sexual orientation. I think a lot of people do have a period when they choose one or the other (or both in some cases), or at least I did.

[alienspy07]

What evidence is there suggesting that someone's sexual orientation can be changed? It sounds like you're talking about bisexual people.

[Satantransvertdeath]

We're all technically bisexual to some percentage. Really, there are no such thing as purely bisexuals. They either dont wanna choose between or havent yet.

I, for example, am not bisexual, but I chose my sexual orientation. Before puberty, I was attracted only to girls, but at puberty I was attracted to both, but then I chose to stick with girls because of the pressure of society.

[alienspy07]

Well, that may be true for you but I doubt it's true for everybody. I doubt everyone is bisexual. Of course, any bisexual person who wants to have a single life partner would have to choose between a same-sex partner or an opposite-sex partner, so in that regard you are right.

[Satantransvertdeath]

But technically, everyone is bisexual... So doesnt that make it a choice for everyone?

Apparently though, heteros have homosexual fantasies and homos dont have heterosexual fantasies at all? I dont know... seems queer to me. (Pun intended)

[MySecretPumkin]

There are far too many people in this world and throughout history that show that some people are born without any attraction toward the opposite sex whatsoever. I, for example, have always thought women were beautiful, but I only ever wanted to be in the arms of men, not women. I only ever felt sexual attraction toward men. Because of pressure and shame, I forced myself to go with women, but that was completely against my nature.

[Satantransvertdeath]

Well even if it does turn out in the end that homosexuality was a sin, there's no use hiding it really haha. Because if later on we figure out that it is FOR SURE a problem then at least if we admit shit like that we can fix our problem lmao.

I dont know, I think sometimes people have a time of confusion where really they are one orientation but they could be another. It's hard to say haha.

[MySecretPumkin]

There is a lot to be said for religious bigotry and homophobia contributing much to the conflict and confusion a child feels while growing up. A poor child knows instinctively who he loves, but society and religion teaches him from the beginning that what he knows and feels is wrong. Thus, we have the real source of sexual identity conflict. If there wasn't any bigotry, a child grows naturally into who he/she really is.

[Satantransvertdeath]

I definately dont think anyone naturally grows into who they are without religion.

I feel that homosexuality is wrong, but I know the feelings arent really 100% wrong, because really it's good to love people but I think it's just confusion.

The only thing is, it's easy to say it's right or wrong but it's nearly impossible to prove either.

I'm not gay so I dont need to figure it out anyways, but I hope someone does.

[MySecretPumkin]

The Bible actually acknowledges and allows for genetically influenced homosexuality.(Matthew 19:12) For religion to condemn homosexuality as sinful is a contradiction of itself.

[Satantransvertdeath]

How does that allow it and how would it be a contradiction?

[MySecretPumkin]

How can the Bible allow for genetically influenced homosexuality and condemn it at the same time?

[Satantransvertdeath]

I dont understand how it said that genetically influenced homosexuality was okay. It was talking about circumsized people =/

[MySecretPumkin]

Matt 19:12 "For there are eunuchs who were born that way from their mother's womb . . . " Are boys born circumcised? NO, they are not. Historically, ancient Jewish Rabbis, Official Roman law, Jesus, and Christian preachers recognized "born eunuchs" as physically intact and sexually capable people, who were born having no attraction toward the opposite sex, i.e., genetically influenced homosexuality. Thus my question posed above.

[Satantransvertdeath]

I'm sorry that I misread the scripture before, I was reading it a bit too hastily trying to come up with an answer to you.

I dont recognize that as saying homosexual people, but it seems more like "born eunuchs" are people born to be celibate. No attraction towards the opposite sex doesnt mean that they do have attraction towards the same sex.

[MySecretPumkin]

Then I urge you to do some in depth, contextual and historical research on this verse and about eunuchs. There is much more behind the verse, and it is naive of you to conclude that "No attraction towards the opposite sex doesnt mean that they do have attraction towards the same sex".

[MySecretPumkin]

How is a person "born to be celibate"?

[Satantransvertdeath]

An eunuch can also be someone who is withdrawn from worldly activity says wikipedia. Why is it naive of me to think that? Why does anyone who has no attraction to the opposite sex have to be gay?

A person born to be celibate would be someone who would never marry and whatnot. Jesus was an eunuch in that sense.

[MySecretPumkin]

Scripture, please. Where does the Bible say that Jesus was a born eunuch? Baby, you are going to have to dig deeper than Wikipedia since Wikipedia is written and edited, not by scholars, but by average joes.

[Satantransvertdeath]

It doesnt say Jesus is a born eunuch, I was saying he is from that definition.

I dont see why it would mean homosexual. That doesnt add up.

[MySecretPumkin]

How is Jesus from that definition, and are you imagining that homosexuals were not a prominent part of the society in Jesus day? Homosexuals have always played a prominent and respect part in societies throughout the ages, including the time when Jesus lived on the earth.

[Satantransvertdeath]

Jesus never married.

No, I'm not imagining that, I'm just saying it doesnt add up with Christianity as I know it.

[MySecretPumkin]

Jesus never condemned homosexuality. The Bible does not specify whether Jesus married. What you are telling me doesn't add up to me. I'd like to see some scriptural underpinning about these issues, wouldn't you?

[Satantransvertdeath]

Jesus couldnt have had a family. He knew he was a martyr, it would not have been responsible of him to have a family that he knew he could not commit too. Plus, Jesus was God so...

Jesus said that he was not here to destroy the law, but to enforce it (something to that extent). No homosexuals shall enter heaven was part of the law somewhere.

[MySecretPumkin]

I strongly encourage you to deepen your knowledge of the Bible. If you are going to promulgate the doctrine that homosexuals are condemned by God, you should really know your stuff :0)

[Satantransvertdeath]

I'm not saying that homosexuals are condemned by God, I'm just saying that's what I believe as of now. I dont see much reason to change my mind and nobody has given me much reason.

It's not like you'd be damned anyways. Our sins are forgiven. I probably sin worse than most gay people anyways. I'm just saying, I believe it's a sin. That's all.

God bless.

[ClemClemens1111]

That would be all fine and good, but Homosexuality to other people of faith( such as Quakers) is not a sin,,and "sin" is a word or religion not a daily fact.

[Satantransvertdeath]

Depending on which "religion" is the correct one, it may be daily fact.

[ClemClemens1111]

Satan, with 30,000 different beliefs on planet earth ,I can assure you, your chance's of your faith being correct and the details following your faith iare so sl;im its not even worth talking about.

[Satantransvertdeath]

It's not hard to rule out most of those beliefs. Really, you only counted basic beliefs anyways. There's probably more than 30 000 Christian beliefs alone if you think about it.

[ClemClemens1111]

Think about your christian belief alone and how silly it sounds along with the rest of them,,Creation of the world in 7 days and a virgin giving birth,,,,Did you know that many gods were to be born of virgins,,,even Zeus!

[Satantransvertdeath]

If there is an all powerful being, then there's nothing that is farfetched for it to do.

To me, it's silly to believe there is no God.

[ClemClemens1111]

Then there are alot of silly people from every one from Thomas Edison to today's Bill Gates.If there is a all powerful God and nothing is too far fetched for it to do,,,then why bother ,,,This God may send you to hell for Whistling while you work.

[Satantransvertdeath]

That God would not be worth worshipping. The true God doesnt do shit just to do shit.

[ClemClemens1111]

That was my Point ,,you made a complete circle,,,stating theat" if there is an all powerful being, then there is nothingthat farfetched for it to do" your quote exactly.......!

[Satantransvertdeath]

Yes, and the God of the bible hasnt broken that.

[ClemClemens1111]

I have no idea what that has to do with my last commet.

[Nosmo777]

No, actually it wasn't. That is in the NIV, which is pretty much the catholic version of the bible. It was written by biased scholars. The King James Version is the most accurate bible. It says sodomites I believe in that verse... but a sodomite doesn't necessarily mean homosexual. I believe it refers to rapists actually.

[Doublebug1]

Cool, thanks for doing a response too Stephanreyu. :-)

[Nosmo777]

Lets ask the question... rather then "Is Being Gay A Choice?" lets ask "Why Would Anyone CHOOSE To Be Gay?"

[Stephanreyu]

Sadly, the far right has ridculous answers for this that they actually beleive. But there are many whom there is hope for on this issue.

[leojboby]

If there are reasons(by nurture) to be gay, it's not really a choice, its a disorder caused by how one was raised.

[Nosmo777]

Disorder? Is being a homophobe a disorder too then?

[ratpat]

And this "conclusion" can be drawn based on what? By that theory a person's sexual orientation is purely informed by how they are raised. How do you raise some one straight? For that fact, how do you raise some one gay?

[mnjx]

you make them creeped out by women.

[ratpat]

I'm not sure i fallow?

[Nosmo777]

How is it that identicle twins can be raised the same exact way but one is gay while the other is straight? I have seen it with my own two eyes. In my opinion, hormones, dna, something is involved. It isn't just you wake up one morning and deciede you want to be gay. With the way society is why would ANYONE want to be gay by choice? I don't want to be gay tbh, but I am, and I have learned to accept that.

[Satantransvertdeath]

Well you could also ask why people would want to be alcoholics, drug addicts, child molesters... etc.

[Nosmo777]

Do you think anyone wants to be any of those things? And why would you compare homosexuality to drug addiction, alcoholism, and pedophilia? You pretty much lose all credbility in my eyes when you do that. Consensual homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone like all of those things mentioned do.

[magus12345678]

That is a very good point. I had been looking at those Homosexual videos too. Keep it up

[Gigolo8]

VERY well thought out comments mate. Good Stuff!

[Nosmo777]

Nice video man. Excellent message. I pretty much had same sex desires when I was as young as 8, it just took me more than a decade to accept it. It is hard as hell to accept that you don't have opposite sex attractions. It was hell for me because I tried dating girls for years. I think I was more miserable trying to be straight then, than I am being gay now.

[Stephanreyu]

I feel you man, it seems like a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.

[MySecretPumkin]

I too felt compelled to date women and marry for fear of ostracism by friends and family if I were to be honest and tell them I was gay. I knew I was gay since I was around 5 years old.

[Yankeezcap]

nice vid, first comment whooo!