I agree with every thing. I love how you said, "Young American" and not "African American". Thanks for this video ! I was so distraught after reading comments and watching other videos on this topic.
@SoTodayAtSchool It always is disheartening to wade through such banal opportunistic hate. I only have so much energy for that. Thanks for you kind words.
Again, this guy in this video thinks that the black guy is a victim of racism. Shut bullshit excuse. In fact, the truth is, Asians are the most prone to bullying and racism here in the US. White libtards are fed the lies that blacks are always victims, when in fact, blacks in my experience were the most racist towards my friends (Asian friends) and myself. If the black guy hates living in Korea, then by all means, get his ass out of Korea and go back to the US (Philly, I believe).
@TwistyTies90 "this guy in this video thinks that the black guy is a victim of racism." No, I don't. I do not know how much he has been subjected to racism and neither do you.
We asians get more racism than any other race in the west for nothing, our only saving grace is we keep our heads down, people are much more prejudice towards asians. People think asians are immune to racism, thats so wrong, we can hate too.
@guitarhamster102 Why would that surprise you? There's racism in my home country (Canada), so why not Korea, or Japan? Or any country for that matter. Most of the Koreans I encounter are friendly and polite. And I think most of them are sincere. But I know with certainty that not all of them are.
@72daystar But aren't most stereotypes of whites in Asia positive? Because where I am from, Taiwan, alot of people have this misconception that the majority of white people are "rich and well-mannered."
I'm not trying to be rude, just want to know if you have ever encountered any negative stereotypes. =)
@guitarhamster102 No offense taken. I think I've only managed to live here as long as I have by not dwelling on those sort of things. And taking people person by person.
I have overall enjoyed my stay here. I can't recall a negative stereotype that I've observed worth repeating. That is, I prefer not to whinge about my host country because A. Others have it worse. And B. I don't have it too badly.
I'll just say I've never had an encounter as bad as the one depicted here.
I gotta give you a thumbs up :). This has to be one of the most objective videos I have seen on youtube regarding the bus incident. In a lot of other response videos, people's biases are showing all over the place.
I get it..."niga" is a korean word..but I guess he thought the man said THE word! It's still wrong...I don't mind people talking back about my race. I just sit there and shut up but when I ask them nicely to stop and they keep doing it....that's when I lose my temper and all hell breaks loose!
@PatriciaTuugamusu Yes, everyone has a breaking point. The point I continue to make is we are not able to see or hear the context that lead to this young man "breaking", so I hesitate to judge him in absolute terms; provocation may have been involved, misunderstanding may have been involved, or more likely a combination of the two. FYI - The "niga" story is a popular, but unconfirmed explanation as to why the young American lost control.
@72daystar I agree with you! But I have to say, that guy was lucky he was in Korea, cause if he was in our Island, Samoa, all the passengers for sure will beat him up!
if he doesn't understand any korean, how come he was able to yell at the man in korean? not knowing what niga means not knowing basic korean. i don't buy that. he understood but he just wanted to act up
@eva0208 Knowing a few common swear words [which I could teach you in 5-10 minutes] is a far from being able to function at a conversational level. "not knowing what niga means not knowing basic korean." 1 "niga" (니가) is non-standard Korean. I have several beginner books for the Korean language; Niga appears in on of them. "he understood but he just wanted to act up" I see nothing upon which to base this assumption.
So, you think it was justified that a person on the bus was attacked...because violence is okay. In the US, urban rioting, looting, gun wars, urban degeneration, etc. are common, but in Korea, it is not. You might find some examples to say that the number of these crimes are also found in Korea, but you are only fooling yourself, if your claim is to say that the figures are the same or doesn't matter.
@jkrdsr "So, you think it was justified that a person on the bus was attacked...because violence is okay." Hmm, this straw manning seems somehow familiar. I have not claimed any of what you have asserted here, and until you actually start talk about what I have ACTUALLY said I see no reason to respond to you.
@keepcompletecontrol Ask your professor of research methods what sort of study you would need to make the assertions you are making stand up under peer review.
@keepcompletecontrol "Second, if you think there's no difference between teachers with certificate and without certificate" I never said this. There are some helpful courses. My point is this: We the foreign teacher don't deserve the hateful speech you are using.
@keepcompletecontrol A "straw man" in rhetoric means you are claiming I am arguing something I am actually not. For example you said,""...it's actually a common sense to learn an indigenous language anywhere you go.." And I never claimed that it wasn't. A second example would be this, "Unlike the way you call Koreans are xenophobic..." I never called Koreans xenophobic. That's just the sort of generalization I would condemn. I hope you understand the expression (straw man) now.
@keepcompletecontrol "It's not that hard for you to understand how much korean students hate hagwon teachers." This is the first time I have ever heard that Korean students "hate " hogwon teachers. One off the best teachers I've ever worked with here had no degree AT ALL. One of the worst teachers I've ever seen here had an MEd from the University of Southern California. The qualifications are set by the Korean government, so complain to them, and spare foreign hagwon teachers your hate.
@keepcompletecontrol "...through understanding the true quality of eachother, come the respect, and it always starts with communication, which you can care less about." Do you know what the expression "straw man" means? Because you apparently know how to do it.
@keepcompletecontrol It saddens me that you are in a place of hate. You don't want to live life like that, trust me. I hope you find a positive way. So sad about you.
@keepcompletecontrol You are living in imagination land. I wonder who could have flagged your comment other than you? It was too short of a time? I'm so sorry you have had such a life full of hate. You can find a better life.
@keepcompletecontrol Oh forgive me for having a life outside my job. Lots of expat English teachers do videos on teaching. Most prefer to do videos on their students whom they love. You obviously haven't Googled it. There is NOT a problem. Far from it. There is a potential wealth of creative input from a foreign community that for the most part will remember the Koreans they met with great fondness.
@keepcompletecontrol "...and all we get are teachers without credentials?" I'm not trying to tell you there are not bad teachers. I'm not trying to tell you there are not bad learning environments. < those two points have a pretty complex relationship. I am trying to tell you to stop hating people in groups. If you find someone disagreeable, hate him for what you find disagreeable, if you think that's a good use of your life. But don't label a whole group.
@keepcompletecontrol For the record. I have have said many times; In Korea the best place to get an English Education and the worst place to get an English language education are the same, the answer is a native speaker centered Hogwon. In some cases a good hogwon owner can allow teachers to really explore education as no other venue can. The thrill of being told, go into that classroom, and teach them English. Just that. That is where the headaches and fun begin. The potential is unlimited!
@keepcompletecontrol Another blanket of groundless negative assertions. If anyone reads this and they have a brain, they will see. But it is interesting to document your words.
@keepcompletecontrol "Your knowledge is so limited to western point of view simply because you don't know anything aobut the education, nothing, you're probably not even aware what your students are learning. THa'ts your quality." You have nothing to base those blanket negative assertions upon. That's why it's not the least bit interesting to consider talking with you.
"ROFL did I ever mention I'm better than you? ROFL "+" My foreign friends at school are 50 times more worthy than all you punks put together." = YES. And I don't care to engage with a hater.
@keepcompletecontrol "Seriously, how cna you be a professor and can't even share cultural difference with a Korean student?" I don't know what that means. Obviously proving your superiority in every way. Goodbye.
@keepcompletecontrol The qualifications are set by the Korean government. Therefore you are wrong. "none of them are interested in English education" I know or have known [I've been responsible for hiring about a score of them] scores of e-2 visa holders, the majority want to do their best for their students. "...99% of Koreans think hagwon teachers are a joke." Then why are they paying for tens of thousands of them to come over to South Korea to teach?
@starguard "What was the outcome of all of this?" Good question. I read a couple of dailies and visit a few blogs, but I haven't noticed any follow up. I'll let your know if I notice anything.
@keepcompletecontrol You're right. The young Americans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, South Africans, and others from the UK are not the average people from their respective countries. They are university educated, adventurous, and energetic. Most of them come to love their students and work hard to do their best for them; despite home sickness, hostile employers, and people who would judge them based upon the actions of a few. There is nothing "typical" about the young man on the bus.
@keepcompletecontrol "the old man didn't say 니가 여기 앉아." How do you know this? I've read every article I could find reporting this [And with some help from my wife, I've even read some of the articles in Korean], but perhaps I missed something. Based on what I read it is unclear what set off the young American. In his report to the police he said he felt the older Korean man was disparaging his race without specifying in what exact way the Korean man did this.
@keepcompletecontrol We have a 1 minute 19 second view of very unflattering behaviour on the part of this young black man. We do not get to see or hear what provoked him. I am saying without this context I would hesitate to say more about him [let alone black people in general] than I already have: that is, his actions are wrong and he should not have resorted to violence. I think if you get to know more African American you will find a whole spectrum of types; good, bad, and in between.
I am korean and I know that most of korean can't speak english very well especially old people definitly can't. On the bus the man said " you can sit here" in korean to the black guy and he understood N word cuz it sounds like similar. Not because I am korean if you are in different country you must consider their own culture and their language etc ... The black guy just ignored and couldn't control himself and slaped old lady and the old man. Do you think is this right situation?
@Kim930722 I think the young man crossed a very serious line. He is in the wrong. However to understand this event it is important to consider a much broader perspective than such a short video provides.
@TrueYears no She asked him in Korean "Do you want to sit down?' In Korean the word "You" is "Neega" and the attacker heard it as the N word. It was an unfortunate misunderstanding.
@TrueYears We ALL need to unite and expel all these black monkeys back to Africa where they belong and then the Jews who are the ones behind Multiculturalism we should hang them all high. This is all part of their evil Jew agenda. Note : There are more Blacks in Jail then in Collage. That right there proves they are a cancer on America and other non-black societies including their own just look at Africa for another example. I rest my Case. Now do your part.
@4truthjusticefreedom "There are more Blacks in Jail then in Collage." You keep working on your "collage' super star you're making a great impression.
Americans want foreigners in their country to learn english if they want to live amongst them so it should also be the other way around.This dude on the bus knows korean curse words but don't know the basic word for YOU (nee-ga) and he is living in Korea and teaching english.How pathetic is that.Lot of foreigners think American's are arrogant, rude, obnoxious,and violent as it is so we need to behave when we're traveling to other countries,especially if want to live there.Just show some respect.
There is racism everywhere on this planet. I've lived in the U.S. since 1977 and I dealt with lot of racism in this country due to the fact that I am Asian American both from black and whites. And this is from a country that has many diversity of different races living together. So no one is immune, it's a fact of life. If you're different than the majority then some idiots are going to treat you as such. But this douche bag on the bus acting that way just made things worse for foreigners.
@hansungpil "What makes worse, 72daystar is the same English tutor speaks in front of multiple young Korean students! I bet you, more American tutors open mouth, more racism in Korea."
This is difficult to understand, but I think you are making a gross unfounded disparaging remarks about my character and that of "American tutors". It really is hard to believe how anyone can make BROAD NEGATIVE STATEMENTS about another group of people and in the SAME breath accuse them of RACISM. Wow!
@72daystar I apologize, I was drunk while I was writing. Anyway, that's what I exactly thought watching your video. You may think I'm an A** hole, but maybe you think more if really racism is the problem in Korea while most of well behaved Americans come to Korea to teach English. In my experience meeting them, they were not ready to throw their cultural habits when they arrived and 3 years later, it was the same.
@MsMrNoface of course, I would. Without adapting the culture where you moved to, How would you live daily in the society? If you don't want to, then why would any person emigrate to the country? You may think culture is just a trend like youngsters, it's not. It's everything you do everyday, language, food, attitude, facial expression. You should get used to cultural shock, accept the difference as soon as possible if you want to live at a different place.
@hansungpil Your culture makes you who you are, it's not something you just drop if you move. I'm from LA, and there are sooo many Koreans who have not accepted the new culture. Does it bother me? No, why should it bother me? Also, most of the western foreigners in Korea are not emigrating, they're invited as guest teachers on one year contracts. Some extend the contract, most do not. However, the majority do not intend to stay for a very long time, much less emigrate.
@hansungpil "So, now the guy in this video is trying to interpret the bus assault incident in relation of racism..." When you make assertions about someone's character you should back them up with evidence.
This is what I'm worrying about Korea as they have more and more USA people coming there. USA citizens just don't come alone to Korea, but try to bring the same hatred they used to have in USA. I think as long as Americans still have the supremacy idea of their culture, don't think they're ready to be resolved to diversity we know. It's a contradictory statement to the word often describes USA melting pot. But that's what I think.
Im a 12 year old, and I've witnessed lots of racism in korea, and it isn't funny because, most Fair Americans aren't treated as we are, Koreans think the blacks will take over them, due to what happened in California about 10 or 20 years ago, and they think we are all that way, Im a dark kid and im proud and all i say when i am being treated racially is we are 1. thats the main thing, its just because of what we eat and our climates, that change our skin color but we are all one. Thank you.
@pete4146 Thank you for your input, Pete. I think most Koreans will respond to you in a positive way if you act decently to them. Racism can be ugly, some of it is fueled by real hatred, BUT a lot of it continues because of ignorance and a lack of opportunity to have positive experiences with people that look and sometimes act differently. By being one of the good guys you can help reduce racism each time someone from another culture walks away from a positive experience interacting with you.
@72daystar Thats really true, so anytime im being racially like not abused but treated, i just move away, ans smile at them, it doesnt really hurt me much but then we are one.
@pete4146 Do you mean we are one species? Recently a lot of anthropologists are reconsidering what "race" is. Many of the experts don't think it has a biological meaning, just a social one. So if it is socially constructed it can be socially deconstructed. Maybe that's the way you mean we are all one.
@hansungpil The black man was ready to make any immediate response to surroundings of racism toward black, EVEN OUTSIDE OF USA. The senior Korean guy may have not experienced any racism in his life, wonders what the heck the black guy is talking. In Korea, their blood and race is very unique, 98% of Koreans in Korea have the same blood line. Most of them don't know about racism, don't experience in daily life.
The man also intimidated the woman sitting next to the old man, swinging her back and forth and shouting abusive words.
According to another witness the old man apparently said, “Niga yogi ¬ anja,” or “You sit here,” but the perpetrator must have misunderstood him as using a racist term.
An African-American man has been booked for assaulting an elderly passenger on a city bus Sunday, according to the Bundang Police Station in Gyeonggi Province.
The younger man repeatedly shouted “Shut up!” and shook his fist at the old man’s face. Laughing hysterically, the man also said a few words in Korean such as “molla” (don’t know?) and “gae****” (son of a b**** in Korean).
@hansungpil Thank you. I found this report in Gukmin Ilbo as well: ‘니가’를 ‘nigger(깜둥이)’로 알아듣고… 외국인 흑인강사 버스서 60대 남성 폭행. However I still think the idea that the older Korean man was completely blameless to be a bit far fetched. There are two reports in the description box that claim the Mr. Seon said "shut up" in English.
@72daystar Police only writes on what causes the incident. Of couse, the idiot will say, he hit the old man because he said, 'shutup'. So the idiot blew off when he heard 'niga', then the old man was harassed continuously, then said 'shutup', then the idiot got HOT with 'ROCK'(his fist. lol). Do more googling, there are a few witness who was actually in the bus what happened.
@hansungpil "Of couse, the idiot will say, he hit the old man because he said, 'shutup'. " Why of course? If he hit the man because he thought the old man said a racial slur [i.e. n*****] to him why wouldn't he admit that? Embarrassment? Anyways, we're speculating. I'll admit this could have been a misunderstanding that escalated into violence. That was the reason I made my video response.
@72daystar The retard would have all the incentive to not admit to hitting the man. This crap has been all over the internet and I'm sure he found out that all that the man said was 'you sit here'. The retard has all the reason in the world to justify his retard reaction.
@melonbarmonster Mr. H [the young American] admitted to hitting the man. His police report which was submitted before the event was uploaded did not include the information about the "Niga" mistake. That came from a witness. Mr, Seon [the older Korean man] did not just say "You sit here." That was just one sentence of what witnesses report was about a 20 minute exchange. The video only shows 1:19 of the part that makes the black man look like a total goon.
And here is one thing I always wonder. Why Americans bring their racism problem to S.Korea trying to connect to everything they're not comfortable with? Racism you're talking has never been in Korea, but you guys brought it because you feel it's racism when you don't synchronize yourself to the culture and way to talk, how to act in Korea. Throw out taboo you brought from your country. Then, there's no racism, but different culture and excitement. It's perception.
or racism, there's NO excuse for him to take it out in a violent manner. Talking and addressing the issue in a CIVIL manner is the only way it should be; NEVER the violence is the answer. and the black man who said he didn't deal with racism in Korea, he's actually right. koreans (i'm sure this goes for all others) would treat you when u act like a decent person. when u act like a civlized person, u'll be treated as accordingly. when u act like a jerk, u'll mostly be treated like a jerk.
@VenusDooly I agree. There is nothing to excuse this young man's actions. However there is context that make it more understandable. "and the black man who said he didn't deal with racism in Korea, he's actually right." He is one person and one experience. I am glad to hear that some black people can come to Korea and have a positive experience. I'm afraid that is not always the case.
What a "civlized person" is varies from culture to culture and therein lies the root of the problem.
Shi kku ru means simply "be quiet" in informal form, and esp. older person'd say this way to younger ones. anyway, so the old man prolly thought he was saying "be quiet please" to the black dude. then during more discourse bet/ the old man and black man, the old man said then said "Niga yeogi ahnja" "You sit here then". And the word NIGA(YOU) started the infamouse scene. the Blk dude went berzerk due to MISunderstanding/communication and went off like that. Even IF he was a victim of bigotry
@VenusDooly ""Niga yeogi ahnja" "You sit here then" I've been asking around for any article from a professional journalist/reporter that supports this story. I ask you again, IF YOU HAVE AN ARTICLE PLEASE PM ME A LINK.
Shi kku ru means simply "be quiet" in informal form, and esp. older person'd say this way to younger ones. anyway, so the old man prolly thought he was saying "be quiet please" to the black dude. then during more discourse bet/ the old man and black man, the old man said then said "Niga yeogi ahnja" "You sit here then". And the word NIGA(YOU) started the infamouse scene. the Blk dude went berzerk due to MISunderstanding/communication and went off like that. Even IF he was a victim of bigotry or
@VenusDooly "Shi kku ru means simply "be quiet" in informal form" Actually - 시끄 러 means that's noisy. Directed at a stranger it would almost certainly be taken as rude by any Korean. However that's not what the reports I've read claim. They say the Korean man said "shut up" and I agree that it is very likely he was not aware how strong an expression he was using, but I seriously doubt that the older Korean man believed "Shut up" was the equivalent of "be quiet, please".
OK, basically it went something like this(from a various sources of korean news). Black dude was talking way too loudly on his cell phone. the old man, sitting near him apparently got annoyed and with his limited Eng. politely said "shut up please." of course, if any American/Canad(Eng-speaking nationals) heard this, it'd be very offensive as sounds too rude. however, to Koreans, it just simply means "be quiet" in a polite form; polite, bec/ he said "please." Koreans commonly say "Shi kku ru"
What I really suggest is to all fucking blacks, whites, yellows, reds and browns... LEARN ABOUT THE FUCKING COUNTRY U ARE GOING TO GO BEFORE!!! THIS IS KOREA. IF U DON'T LIKE THE WAY THEY TREAT YOU OR YOU DON'T LIKE THE MISUNDERSTANDINGS BECAUSE U FUCKING THOUGHT EVERYONE WAS GONNA TOALK TO U IN PERFECT ENGLISH GO FUCK YOURSELF BACK TO YOUR FUCKING COUNTRY!!!! Dam apes make me angry.
as a black american teaching in korea - I have to disagree with your claim that a black person would more likely be encountered with racism than say , a white person. Ive been here for 2 years traveled from seoul to busan. I can confidently say it is the individual who determines how they are treated - you act like an ass. you get treat like an ass. you act like a respectable member of society , and you are treated as such.
@apaige22 Thanks for your input. I was hoping some African Americans would volunteer their experiences here. I agree to an extent. The African Americans I have worked with here have presented themselves as conscientious workers with professional decorum. However I know there is greater fear and apprehension of black people in Korea. However, once they meet you most of those fears evaporate having been based on ignorance and popular stereotypes.
@72daystar First of all, the incident has nothing to do with racism. The black guy took 'niga' as 'nigga', niga mean, you. Probably the older told the woman next to him, 'you sit over here' something I can imagine. And the stupid black guy who came to S. Korea to teach English, but doesn't know the simple word 'you' in Korean, just got hot tempered and assaulted the older. That's all. Man, if you go to foreign country, at least try to learn some basic words and phrases.
I'm just getting sick of foreigners who are destroying our value and culture which has been accumulated for hundreds of years. Imagine what children would think, youngsters talk like trash and hit the older. That's something I have not seen in S. Korea for 30 years. Please, black or white, I don't care, Do not bring trash attitude to S. Korea. Being spoiled in US is enough.
If you're Black and came to Korea to teach English, open the first 10 pages of entry level Korean language book and learn 'you' in Korean before you go out to street. Thank god, the stupid Black boy didn't have a gun.
@hansungpil Can't handle questions can we? 1st if you have a professional news source that claims the "Niga yogi anja." story is true please give me the title so I can find it or PM me the link. 2nd Niga 니가 is a NONSTANDARD form of you + subject particle 가. What you would learn in a book is nah=you [너] Or Dang shin 당신if speaking formally. 3rd Please keep you language polite.
@72daystar So you know niga, good to know you'll be safe in bus at least. You're saying as it's ok not to know nonstandard Korean. But be careful, that's a part of culture and language just like nigga in US. Listen carefully to what others say around him in the video and read what the post wrote in the first video uploaded for the incident. You put your own video discussing the video, so you should know what happened before the video recorded.
@hansungpil "You're saying as it's ok not to know nonstandard Korean." No, I'm not. I'm just noting that it would not be surprising for someone who has only been in Korea for 6 months to not be familiar with 니가. However this is just a story until I get the source. "You put your own video discussing the video, so you should know what happened before the video recorded." I've been asking for a source for more than a week. No one has been able to give me one.
@hansungpil This was a video response. I have the right to express my opinion. If anyone has evidence that what I have said or written is wrong, I would prefer the slight embarrassment of being corrected rather than continue with incorrect information.
@72daystar So please find the Black idiot and explain what 니가 means. Nobody knows, he will slice next Korean saying 니가 next time. I hear 니가 at least 10 times a day. If he doesn't know what it means, it's a disaster for both him and his victim, isn't it?
@72daystar so why do you think the idiot jumping on the older man? Maybe the skinny old man with his daughter next to him tried to prove who's the macho man.
@hansungpil Because the older Korean man said, "Shut up." among other things.That was in the police report. I'm still not sure where the "Niga" story originates. But it is clear that this incident was not due to the young American simply misunderstanding the Korean pronoun for "you". The incident went on for 20 minutes, so I find it difficult to imagine it was a completely one sided problem.
@72daystar I hear only shutup from the American, not from the old man. I found a different source who actually pulled out the report from bundang police station.
@hansungpil Could you give me a link then? Of copy and paste the statement in a comment here? How can I be lying? I'm only siting what Korea Times and Joongang Ilbo reported?
@hansungpil "Let me tell again, the video has nothing to do with racism in Korea. You got the video as a very wrong example to tell your story in Korea" How do you know what happened on the bus was or wasn't an example of racism? Your second remark I don't understand.
@72daystar How do you know it's racism related incident watching the video? You related racism regarding the video where one black man assaulting the older man, so you should have clue why you relate racism to the video.
@hansungpil In my response I say,"...I do encounter some racism and prejudice." And I added that black people would more likely than me encounter racism. Is this what you're talking about? Do you have a question?
@72daystar if you're interested in having an informed opinion it would behoove you to research it yourself dude. No skin off my back if you have the cite or not.
i was so impressed when i saw that video, 'cause in colombia, black people are really normal, i mean they are kind and respectull like any other citizen.... but i have to recognize than that video scared me a lot!!! black people is always like that in USA???
@Andreamusic1000 "black people is always like that in USA???" Not at all. And I would wager that this young black man is not like this all the time. The video may well represent him at his worst for 1 minute 19 seconds. That really isn't much to decide what he is really like. At the same time I really do see what he did as a mistake, and I hope we see less of this kind of video in the future.
Funny how the poster "has been at the receiving end of racism in Korea" but has managed to deal with it without chimping out on an elder (which is a complete and total no-no in Korea). Yet you put a male black on a Korean bus and he chimps out at the first opportunity. If I were Korean, I wouldn't allow male blacks in my country at all.
@weightlifterf2 Note: 1st He was in Korea for 6 months, so this could hardly be "...at the first opportunity." 2nd - don't think I wasn't tempted at times. 3rd - I've met a number of African Americans who contribute to English education in this country. Finally judging by your history of comments on You Tube you seem to be obsessed with race, particularly the African race. You might want to bring that up in therapy.
hey do you have proof that the black dude was discminated in the bus?? everyone in the bus sure seem to put up with his ass farly well while he talk like creazy dude from some gangster movies lol
@tochjo772 Two daily news papers site the police report that says the Korean man told him to "shut up" in English and continued to talk at him in Korean. Koreans usually do try to be patient, endure, and avoid conflicts; however many Koreans work long hours for weeks at a time with no holiday, so late Saturday night many of the people on that bus were likely tired after finishing work. Perhaps that's why the older Korean man felt justified.
@rokkcop You're just butt hurt because I pointed out that that would be an impratically long sashimi knife. You probably meant to say 30 cms... I suppose.
Oh wipee doo. The black guy will get racism "double times" compared to your white ass from the Korean public? Puleez. If you are one of the millions of ESLer's who are hating your life living in S Korea, then buy a one-way ticket and get the fuck out of Korea! I am pissed off that you seem to be defending the black faggot for his assault on the elderly Korean male. There is NO, repeat, NO, excuse for punching and strangling an elderly male in Korea.
@TwistyTies90 I am in no way shape or form defending the young man. I am merely contextualizing. There are not millions of ESLers in Korea. I don't hate my life here I love it. So many misguided assumptions in one post.
@TwistyTies90 I might actually care about what you've written here if you hadn't these comments elsewhere. To quote your last two: "@luigi33333333 sorry, but it's usually blacks like this fag nigga who chimps out and start attacking ..." and "@ThusSpakeDenise. This is why whenever I have to travel to inner city ghettoes in the US to make deliveries, I carry mace or a baton with me. I never trust these violent-prone coons." Get a life, start by favoriting some other videos youtube has to offer.
Young American? You mean Black guy. He may be an American English teacher, but the problem is the violent nature associated with his color. The title seems to suggest there is a problem with American English teachers.
I agree with every thing. I love how you said, "Young American" and not "African American". Thanks for this video ! I was so distraught after reading comments and watching other videos on this topic.
SoTodayAtSchool 2 months ago
@SoTodayAtSchool It always is disheartening to wade through such banal opportunistic hate. I only have so much energy for that. Thanks for you kind words.
72daystar 2 months ago
Again, this guy in this video thinks that the black guy is a victim of racism. Shut bullshit excuse. In fact, the truth is, Asians are the most prone to bullying and racism here in the US. White libtards are fed the lies that blacks are always victims, when in fact, blacks in my experience were the most racist towards my friends (Asian friends) and myself. If the black guy hates living in Korea, then by all means, get his ass out of Korea and go back to the US (Philly, I believe).
TwistyTies90 3 months ago
@TwistyTies90 "this guy in this video thinks that the black guy is a victim of racism." No, I don't. I do not know how much he has been subjected to racism and neither do you.
72daystar 3 months ago
We asians get more racism than any other race in the west for nothing, our only saving grace is we keep our heads down, people are much more prejudice towards asians. People think asians are immune to racism, thats so wrong, we can hate too.
HDsharp 3 months ago
White people encounter racism? I thought most Asians like white people because that's the impression I get when I go to Asia (I'm Asian American)
guitarhamster102 3 months ago
@guitarhamster102 Why would that surprise you? There's racism in my home country (Canada), so why not Korea, or Japan? Or any country for that matter. Most of the Koreans I encounter are friendly and polite. And I think most of them are sincere. But I know with certainty that not all of them are.
72daystar 3 months ago
@72daystar But aren't most stereotypes of whites in Asia positive? Because where I am from, Taiwan, alot of people have this misconception that the majority of white people are "rich and well-mannered."
I'm not trying to be rude, just want to know if you have ever encountered any negative stereotypes. =)
guitarhamster102 3 months ago
@guitarhamster102 No offense taken. I think I've only managed to live here as long as I have by not dwelling on those sort of things. And taking people person by person.
I have overall enjoyed my stay here. I can't recall a negative stereotype that I've observed worth repeating. That is, I prefer not to whinge about my host country because A. Others have it worse. And B. I don't have it too badly.
I'll just say I've never had an encounter as bad as the one depicted here.
72daystar 3 months ago
@guitarhamster102 asian americans are just as dumb and ignorant as any other american.
db7Ryu 1 week ago
I gotta give you a thumbs up :). This has to be one of the most objective videos I have seen on youtube regarding the bus incident. In a lot of other response videos, people's biases are showing all over the place.
enviromed21 3 months ago
@enviromed21 Thank you very much.
72daystar 3 months ago
You're hot... I'm a guy, but I think that you're so hot.... XD inbox me? :D
10Koei 4 months ago
I get it..."niga" is a korean word..but I guess he thought the man said THE word! It's still wrong...I don't mind people talking back about my race. I just sit there and shut up but when I ask them nicely to stop and they keep doing it....that's when I lose my temper and all hell breaks loose!
PatriciaTuugamusu 4 months ago
@PatriciaTuugamusu Yes, everyone has a breaking point. The point I continue to make is we are not able to see or hear the context that lead to this young man "breaking", so I hesitate to judge him in absolute terms; provocation may have been involved, misunderstanding may have been involved, or more likely a combination of the two. FYI - The "niga" story is a popular, but unconfirmed explanation as to why the young American lost control.
72daystar 4 months ago
@72daystar I agree with you! But I have to say, that guy was lucky he was in Korea, cause if he was in our Island, Samoa, all the passengers for sure will beat him up!
PatriciaTuugamusu 4 months ago
if he doesn't understand any korean, how come he was able to yell at the man in korean? not knowing what niga means not knowing basic korean. i don't buy that. he understood but he just wanted to act up
eva0208 4 months ago
@eva0208 Knowing a few common swear words [which I could teach you in 5-10 minutes] is a far from being able to function at a conversational level. "not knowing what niga means not knowing basic korean." 1 "niga" (니가) is non-standard Korean. I have several beginner books for the Korean language; Niga appears in on of them. "he understood but he just wanted to act up" I see nothing upon which to base this assumption.
72daystar 4 months ago
So, you think it was justified that a person on the bus was attacked...because violence is okay. In the US, urban rioting, looting, gun wars, urban degeneration, etc. are common, but in Korea, it is not. You might find some examples to say that the number of these crimes are also found in Korea, but you are only fooling yourself, if your claim is to say that the figures are the same or doesn't matter.
jkrdsr 4 months ago
@jkrdsr "So, you think it was justified that a person on the bus was attacked...because violence is okay." Hmm, this straw manning seems somehow familiar. I have not claimed any of what you have asserted here, and until you actually start talk about what I have ACTUALLY said I see no reason to respond to you.
72daystar 4 months ago
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when an african-american visits korea, he (she) should study basic korean vocabulary. "niggar (neggar)" ("네가") in korean means "you."
KYUNGILNAM 4 months ago
"simply you don't care" How dare you!
72daystar 4 months ago
@keepcompletecontrol Ask your professor of research methods what sort of study you would need to make the assertions you are making stand up under peer review.
72daystar 4 months ago
@keepcompletecontrol "Second, if you think there's no difference between teachers with certificate and without certificate" I never said this. There are some helpful courses. My point is this: We the foreign teacher don't deserve the hateful speech you are using.
72daystar 4 months ago
@keepcompletecontrol A "straw man" in rhetoric means you are claiming I am arguing something I am actually not. For example you said,""...it's actually a common sense to learn an indigenous language anywhere you go.." And I never claimed that it wasn't. A second example would be this, "Unlike the way you call Koreans are xenophobic..." I never called Koreans xenophobic. That's just the sort of generalization I would condemn. I hope you understand the expression (straw man) now.
72daystar 4 months ago
@keepcompletecontrol "It's not that hard for you to understand how much korean students hate hagwon teachers." This is the first time I have ever heard that Korean students "hate " hogwon teachers. One off the best teachers I've ever worked with here had no degree AT ALL. One of the worst teachers I've ever seen here had an MEd from the University of Southern California. The qualifications are set by the Korean government, so complain to them, and spare foreign hagwon teachers your hate.
72daystar 4 months ago
@keepcompletecontrol "...through understanding the true quality of eachother, come the respect, and it always starts with communication, which you can care less about." Do you know what the expression "straw man" means? Because you apparently know how to do it.
72daystar 4 months ago
@keepcompletecontrol "...it's actually a common sense to learn an indigenous language anywhere you go.." No one is arguing this point.
72daystar 4 months ago
@keepcompletecontrol It saddens me that you are in a place of hate. You don't want to live life like that, trust me. I hope you find a positive way. So sad about you.
72daystar 4 months ago
@keepcompletecontrol You have falsely equated morality with knowledge of Korean language. I'm sorry.
72daystar 4 months ago
"We should kick you all out" Consider how being a "hermit" kingdom has served you before.
72daystar 4 months ago
@keepcompletecontrol You are living in imagination land. I wonder who could have flagged your comment other than you? It was too short of a time? I'm so sorry you have had such a life full of hate. You can find a better life.
72daystar 4 months ago
@keepcompletecontrol Oh forgive me for having a life outside my job. Lots of expat English teachers do videos on teaching. Most prefer to do videos on their students whom they love. You obviously haven't Googled it. There is NOT a problem. Far from it. There is a potential wealth of creative input from a foreign community that for the most part will remember the Koreans they met with great fondness.
72daystar 4 months ago
@keepcompletecontrol "...and all we get are teachers without credentials?" I'm not trying to tell you there are not bad teachers. I'm not trying to tell you there are not bad learning environments. < those two points have a pretty complex relationship. I am trying to tell you to stop hating people in groups. If you find someone disagreeable, hate him for what you find disagreeable, if you think that's a good use of your life. But don't label a whole group.
72daystar 4 months ago
@keepcompletecontrol Yeah, I guess you'd have to say that.
72daystar 4 months ago
@keepcompletecontrol For the record. I have have said many times; In Korea the best place to get an English Education and the worst place to get an English language education are the same, the answer is a native speaker centered Hogwon. In some cases a good hogwon owner can allow teachers to really explore education as no other venue can. The thrill of being told, go into that classroom, and teach them English. Just that. That is where the headaches and fun begin. The potential is unlimited!
72daystar 4 months ago
@keepcompletecontrol Another blanket of groundless negative assertions. If anyone reads this and they have a brain, they will see. But it is interesting to document your words.
72daystar 4 months ago
@keepcompletecontrol "Your knowledge is so limited to western point of view simply because you don't know anything aobut the education, nothing, you're probably not even aware what your students are learning. THa'ts your quality." You have nothing to base those blanket negative assertions upon. That's why it's not the least bit interesting to consider talking with you.
72daystar 4 months ago
"ROFL did I ever mention I'm better than you? ROFL "+" My foreign friends at school are 50 times more worthy than all you punks put together." = YES. And I don't care to engage with a hater.
72daystar 4 months ago
@keepcompletecontrol OK, I'm going to leave up this comment of hate, just cause it's quality troll hate. But I'm not going to respond to it.
72daystar 4 months ago
@keepcompletecontrol "Seriously, how cna you be a professor and can't even share cultural difference with a Korean student?" I don't know what that means. Obviously proving your superiority in every way. Goodbye.
72daystar 4 months ago
@keepcompletecontrol The qualifications are set by the Korean government. Therefore you are wrong. "none of them are interested in English education" I know or have known [I've been responsible for hiring about a score of them] scores of e-2 visa holders, the majority want to do their best for their students. "...99% of Koreans think hagwon teachers are a joke." Then why are they paying for tens of thousands of them to come over to South Korea to teach?
72daystar 4 months ago
So what happened to this assclown. Was he thrown in Jail over there? Did other Koreans catch on on the streets and beat him like Kunta?
What was the outcome of all of this
starguard 4 months ago
@starguard "What was the outcome of all of this?" Good question. I read a couple of dailies and visit a few blogs, but I haven't noticed any follow up. I'll let your know if I notice anything.
72daystar 4 months ago
@72daystar Thanks
starguard 4 months ago
@keepcompletecontrol You're right. The young Americans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, South Africans, and others from the UK are not the average people from their respective countries. They are university educated, adventurous, and energetic. Most of them come to love their students and work hard to do their best for them; despite home sickness, hostile employers, and people who would judge them based upon the actions of a few. There is nothing "typical" about the young man on the bus.
72daystar 4 months ago
@keepcompletecontrol "the old man didn't say 니가 여기 앉아." How do you know this? I've read every article I could find reporting this [And with some help from my wife, I've even read some of the articles in Korean], but perhaps I missed something. Based on what I read it is unclear what set off the young American. In his report to the police he said he felt the older Korean man was disparaging his race without specifying in what exact way the Korean man did this.
72daystar 4 months ago
@keepcompletecontrol We have a 1 minute 19 second view of very unflattering behaviour on the part of this young black man. We do not get to see or hear what provoked him. I am saying without this context I would hesitate to say more about him [let alone black people in general] than I already have: that is, his actions are wrong and he should not have resorted to violence. I think if you get to know more African American you will find a whole spectrum of types; good, bad, and in between.
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rokkcop 4 months ago
FYI:
"니가 여기 않자." (nigga yurgi ahnjur)
TRANSLATES
"You can sit here."
It's the Korean language, "You" is written "니가" and is pronounced "nigga".
It sounds the same with the "n-word" but can be mistaken easily if you do not know the Korean language.
joaheyo 4 months ago
@joaheyo And this may or may not have been what set him off.
72daystar 4 months ago
I am korean and I know that most of korean can't speak english very well especially old people definitly can't. On the bus the man said " you can sit here" in korean to the black guy and he understood N word cuz it sounds like similar. Not because I am korean if you are in different country you must consider their own culture and their language etc ... The black guy just ignored and couldn't control himself and slaped old lady and the old man. Do you think is this right situation?
Kim930722 4 months ago
@Kim930722 I think the young man crossed a very serious line. He is in the wrong. However to understand this event it is important to consider a much broader perspective than such a short video provides.
72daystar 4 months ago
the old man called him a nigger
TrueYears 5 months ago
@TrueYears no She asked him in Korean "Do you want to sit down?' In Korean the word "You" is "Neega" and the attacker heard it as the N word. It was an unfortunate misunderstanding.
MontrealChic 4 months ago
@TrueYears We ALL need to unite and expel all these black monkeys back to Africa where they belong and then the Jews who are the ones behind Multiculturalism we should hang them all high. This is all part of their evil Jew agenda. Note : There are more Blacks in Jail then in Collage. That right there proves they are a cancer on America and other non-black societies including their own just look at Africa for another example. I rest my Case. Now do your part.
4truthjusticefreedom 4 months ago
@4truthjusticefreedom "There are more Blacks in Jail then in Collage." You keep working on your "collage' super star you're making a great impression.
72daystar 4 months ago
@4truthjusticefreedom I Am doing my part educating the next generation so they dont grow up as fuck as you man -_-
TrueYears 4 months ago
Good man! I like you bro.
ThomasAnthonyBowman 5 months ago
american moron
marie1000ist 5 months ago
Americans want foreigners in their country to learn english if they want to live amongst them so it should also be the other way around.This dude on the bus knows korean curse words but don't know the basic word for YOU (nee-ga) and he is living in Korea and teaching english.How pathetic is that.Lot of foreigners think American's are arrogant, rude, obnoxious,and violent as it is so we need to behave when we're traveling to other countries,especially if want to live there.Just show some respect.
joon527 5 months ago
There is racism everywhere on this planet. I've lived in the U.S. since 1977 and I dealt with lot of racism in this country due to the fact that I am Asian American both from black and whites. And this is from a country that has many diversity of different races living together. So no one is immune, it's a fact of life. If you're different than the majority then some idiots are going to treat you as such. But this douche bag on the bus acting that way just made things worse for foreigners.
joon527 5 months ago
72daystar, good luck to your adventure in Korea and enjoy Kimchi~
hansungpil 5 months ago
@hansungpil Thanks.
72daystar 5 months ago
i dont know why he blew his top but all bs aside the guy was wrong. it's that simple.
eheyehsheyeh 5 months ago
@eheyehsheyeh No argument from me there.
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hansungpil 5 months ago
@hansungpil "What makes worse, 72daystar is the same English tutor speaks in front of multiple young Korean students! I bet you, more American tutors open mouth, more racism in Korea."
This is difficult to understand, but I think you are making a gross unfounded disparaging remarks about my character and that of "American tutors". It really is hard to believe how anyone can make BROAD NEGATIVE STATEMENTS about another group of people and in the SAME breath accuse them of RACISM. Wow!
72daystar 5 months ago
@72daystar I apologize, I was drunk while I was writing. Anyway, that's what I exactly thought watching your video. You may think I'm an A** hole, but maybe you think more if really racism is the problem in Korea while most of well behaved Americans come to Korea to teach English. In my experience meeting them, they were not ready to throw their cultural habits when they arrived and 3 years later, it was the same.
hansungpil 5 months ago
@hansungpil Would you expect to adopt the culture of any country you emigrated to?
MsMrNoface 5 months ago
@MsMrNoface of course, I would. Without adapting the culture where you moved to, How would you live daily in the society? If you don't want to, then why would any person emigrate to the country? You may think culture is just a trend like youngsters, it's not. It's everything you do everyday, language, food, attitude, facial expression. You should get used to cultural shock, accept the difference as soon as possible if you want to live at a different place.
hansungpil 5 months ago
@hansungpil It's called black and white thinking and you've got it in spades super star!
MsMrNoface 5 months ago
@hansungpil Your culture makes you who you are, it's not something you just drop if you move. I'm from LA, and there are sooo many Koreans who have not accepted the new culture. Does it bother me? No, why should it bother me? Also, most of the western foreigners in Korea are not emigrating, they're invited as guest teachers on one year contracts. Some extend the contract, most do not. However, the majority do not intend to stay for a very long time, much less emigrate.
Gyozomroka 5 months ago
@hansungpil Apology accepted.
72daystar 5 months ago
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hansungpil 5 months ago
@hansungpil "So, now the guy in this video is trying to interpret the bus assault incident in relation of racism..." When you make assertions about someone's character you should back them up with evidence.
72daystar 5 months ago
This is what I'm worrying about Korea as they have more and more USA people coming there. USA citizens just don't come alone to Korea, but try to bring the same hatred they used to have in USA. I think as long as Americans still have the supremacy idea of their culture, don't think they're ready to be resolved to diversity we know. It's a contradictory statement to the word often describes USA melting pot. But that's what I think.
hansungpil 5 months ago
Im a 12 year old, and I've witnessed lots of racism in korea, and it isn't funny because, most Fair Americans aren't treated as we are, Koreans think the blacks will take over them, due to what happened in California about 10 or 20 years ago, and they think we are all that way, Im a dark kid and im proud and all i say when i am being treated racially is we are 1. thats the main thing, its just because of what we eat and our climates, that change our skin color but we are all one. Thank you.
pete4146 5 months ago
@pete4146 Thank you for your input, Pete. I think most Koreans will respond to you in a positive way if you act decently to them. Racism can be ugly, some of it is fueled by real hatred, BUT a lot of it continues because of ignorance and a lack of opportunity to have positive experiences with people that look and sometimes act differently. By being one of the good guys you can help reduce racism each time someone from another culture walks away from a positive experience interacting with you.
72daystar 5 months ago
@72daystar Thats really true, so anytime im being racially like not abused but treated, i just move away, ans smile at them, it doesnt really hurt me much but then we are one.
pete4146 5 months ago
@pete4146 Do you mean we are one species? Recently a lot of anthropologists are reconsidering what "race" is. Many of the experts don't think it has a biological meaning, just a social one. So if it is socially constructed it can be socially deconstructed. Maybe that's the way you mean we are all one.
72daystar 5 months ago
@pete4146 Most Koreans don't know or care about the Rodney King riots : /
melonbarmonster 5 months ago
@melonbarmonster Ahh, ok, anyways, dont you agree that we are all one? I mean its the truth isnt it??
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hansungpil 5 months ago
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@hansungpil The black man was ready to make any immediate response to surroundings of racism toward black, EVEN OUTSIDE OF USA. The senior Korean guy may have not experienced any racism in his life, wonders what the heck the black guy is talking. In Korea, their blood and race is very unique, 98% of Koreans in Korea have the same blood line. Most of them don't know about racism, don't experience in daily life.
hansungpil 5 months ago
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hansungpil 5 months ago
Police said the accused is a 24-year-old English instructor, identified only as “H.”
hansungpil 5 months ago
The man also intimidated the woman sitting next to the old man, swinging her back and forth and shouting abusive words.
According to another witness the old man apparently said, “Niga yogi ¬ anja,” or “You sit here,” but the perpetrator must have misunderstood him as using a racist term.
hansungpil 5 months ago
By Yun Suh-young
An African-American man has been booked for assaulting an elderly passenger on a city bus Sunday, according to the Bundang Police Station in Gyeonggi Province.
The younger man repeatedly shouted “Shut up!” and shook his fist at the old man’s face. Laughing hysterically, the man also said a few words in Korean such as “molla” (don’t know?) and “gae****” (son of a b**** in Korean).
hansungpil 5 months ago
@hansungpil Thank you. I found this report in Gukmin Ilbo as well: ‘니가’를 ‘nigger(깜둥이)’로 알아듣고… 외국인 흑인강사 버스서 60대 남성 폭행. However I still think the idea that the older Korean man was completely blameless to be a bit far fetched. There are two reports in the description box that claim the Mr. Seon said "shut up" in English.
72daystar 5 months ago
@72daystar Police only writes on what causes the incident. Of couse, the idiot will say, he hit the old man because he said, 'shutup'. So the idiot blew off when he heard 'niga', then the old man was harassed continuously, then said 'shutup', then the idiot got HOT with 'ROCK'(his fist. lol). Do more googling, there are a few witness who was actually in the bus what happened.
hansungpil 5 months ago
@hansungpil "Of couse, the idiot will say, he hit the old man because he said, 'shutup'. " Why of course? If he hit the man because he thought the old man said a racial slur [i.e. n*****] to him why wouldn't he admit that? Embarrassment? Anyways, we're speculating. I'll admit this could have been a misunderstanding that escalated into violence. That was the reason I made my video response.
72daystar 5 months ago
@72daystar The retard would have all the incentive to not admit to hitting the man. This crap has been all over the internet and I'm sure he found out that all that the man said was 'you sit here'. The retard has all the reason in the world to justify his retard reaction.
melonbarmonster 5 months ago
@melonbarmonster Mr. H [the young American] admitted to hitting the man. His police report which was submitted before the event was uploaded did not include the information about the "Niga" mistake. That came from a witness. Mr, Seon [the older Korean man] did not just say "You sit here." That was just one sentence of what witnesses report was about a 20 minute exchange. The video only shows 1:19 of the part that makes the black man look like a total goon.
72daystar 5 months ago
Anyway, If you have any black friends coming to Korea, tell them get used to niga. lol.
hansungpil 5 months ago
And here is one thing I always wonder. Why Americans bring their racism problem to S.Korea trying to connect to everything they're not comfortable with? Racism you're talking has never been in Korea, but you guys brought it because you feel it's racism when you don't synchronize yourself to the culture and way to talk, how to act in Korea. Throw out taboo you brought from your country. Then, there's no racism, but different culture and excitement. It's perception.
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hansungpil 5 months ago
@hansungpil I'm sorry I don't understand.
72daystar 5 months ago
@72daystar That's why you talk racism even in Korea. That's sad.
hansungpil 5 months ago
@jxtful- you're worse than that black ape on the bus. you too should hang out together. but do the world a favor, please do not breed.
VenusDooly 5 months ago
@VenusDooly Apes... :)
jxtsful 5 months ago
or racism, there's NO excuse for him to take it out in a violent manner. Talking and addressing the issue in a CIVIL manner is the only way it should be; NEVER the violence is the answer. and the black man who said he didn't deal with racism in Korea, he's actually right. koreans (i'm sure this goes for all others) would treat you when u act like a decent person. when u act like a civlized person, u'll be treated as accordingly. when u act like a jerk, u'll mostly be treated like a jerk.
VenusDooly 5 months ago
@VenusDooly I agree. There is nothing to excuse this young man's actions. However there is context that make it more understandable. "and the black man who said he didn't deal with racism in Korea, he's actually right." He is one person and one experience. I am glad to hear that some black people can come to Korea and have a positive experience. I'm afraid that is not always the case.
What a "civlized person" is varies from culture to culture and therein lies the root of the problem.
72daystar 5 months ago
Shi kku ru means simply "be quiet" in informal form, and esp. older person'd say this way to younger ones. anyway, so the old man prolly thought he was saying "be quiet please" to the black dude. then during more discourse bet/ the old man and black man, the old man said then said "Niga yeogi ahnja" "You sit here then". And the word NIGA(YOU) started the infamouse scene. the Blk dude went berzerk due to MISunderstanding/communication and went off like that. Even IF he was a victim of bigotry
VenusDooly 5 months ago
@VenusDooly ""Niga yeogi ahnja" "You sit here then" I've been asking around for any article from a professional journalist/reporter that supports this story. I ask you again, IF YOU HAVE AN ARTICLE PLEASE PM ME A LINK.
72daystar 5 months ago
Shi kku ru means simply "be quiet" in informal form, and esp. older person'd say this way to younger ones. anyway, so the old man prolly thought he was saying "be quiet please" to the black dude. then during more discourse bet/ the old man and black man, the old man said then said "Niga yeogi ahnja" "You sit here then". And the word NIGA(YOU) started the infamouse scene. the Blk dude went berzerk due to MISunderstanding/communication and went off like that. Even IF he was a victim of bigotry or
VenusDooly 5 months ago
@VenusDooly "Shi kku ru means simply "be quiet" in informal form" Actually - 시끄 러 means that's noisy. Directed at a stranger it would almost certainly be taken as rude by any Korean. However that's not what the reports I've read claim. They say the Korean man said "shut up" and I agree that it is very likely he was not aware how strong an expression he was using, but I seriously doubt that the older Korean man believed "Shut up" was the equivalent of "be quiet, please".
72daystar 5 months ago
OK, basically it went something like this(from a various sources of korean news). Black dude was talking way too loudly on his cell phone. the old man, sitting near him apparently got annoyed and with his limited Eng. politely said "shut up please." of course, if any American/Canad(Eng-speaking nationals) heard this, it'd be very offensive as sounds too rude. however, to Koreans, it just simply means "be quiet" in a polite form; polite, bec/ he said "please." Koreans commonly say "Shi kku ru"
VenusDooly 5 months ago
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What I really suggest is to all fucking blacks, whites, yellows, reds and browns... LEARN ABOUT THE FUCKING COUNTRY U ARE GOING TO GO BEFORE!!! THIS IS KOREA. IF U DON'T LIKE THE WAY THEY TREAT YOU OR YOU DON'T LIKE THE MISUNDERSTANDINGS BECAUSE U FUCKING THOUGHT EVERYONE WAS GONNA TOALK TO U IN PERFECT ENGLISH GO FUCK YOURSELF BACK TO YOUR FUCKING COUNTRY!!!! Dam apes make me angry.
jxtsful 5 months ago
as a black american teaching in korea - I have to disagree with your claim that a black person would more likely be encountered with racism than say , a white person. Ive been here for 2 years traveled from seoul to busan. I can confidently say it is the individual who determines how they are treated - you act like an ass. you get treat like an ass. you act like a respectable member of society , and you are treated as such.
apaige22 5 months ago 19
@apaige22 Thanks for your input. I was hoping some African Americans would volunteer their experiences here. I agree to an extent. The African Americans I have worked with here have presented themselves as conscientious workers with professional decorum. However I know there is greater fear and apprehension of black people in Korea. However, once they meet you most of those fears evaporate having been based on ignorance and popular stereotypes.
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@72daystar I like your claim. Just goes to show that ignorance is not bliss
NightAn93l 5 months ago
If you think racism bothers you in Korea, Go home, boy!!!
hansungpil 5 months ago
@hansungpil "If you think racism bothers you in Korea, Go home, boy!!!" Where would you go to avoid racism?
72daystar 5 months ago
@72daystar First of all, the incident has nothing to do with racism. The black guy took 'niga' as 'nigga', niga mean, you. Probably the older told the woman next to him, 'you sit over here' something I can imagine. And the stupid black guy who came to S. Korea to teach English, but doesn't know the simple word 'you' in Korean, just got hot tempered and assaulted the older. That's all. Man, if you go to foreign country, at least try to learn some basic words and phrases.
hansungpil 5 months ago
I'm just getting sick of foreigners who are destroying our value and culture which has been accumulated for hundreds of years. Imagine what children would think, youngsters talk like trash and hit the older. That's something I have not seen in S. Korea for 30 years. Please, black or white, I don't care, Do not bring trash attitude to S. Korea. Being spoiled in US is enough.
hansungpil 5 months ago
If you're Black and came to Korea to teach English, open the first 10 pages of entry level Korean language book and learn 'you' in Korean before you go out to street. Thank god, the stupid Black boy didn't have a gun.
hansungpil 5 months ago
@hansungpil Can't handle questions can we? 1st if you have a professional news source that claims the "Niga yogi anja." story is true please give me the title so I can find it or PM me the link. 2nd Niga 니가 is a NONSTANDARD form of you + subject particle 가. What you would learn in a book is nah=you [너] Or Dang shin 당신if speaking formally. 3rd Please keep you language polite.
72daystar 5 months ago
@72daystar So you know niga, good to know you'll be safe in bus at least. You're saying as it's ok not to know nonstandard Korean. But be careful, that's a part of culture and language just like nigga in US. Listen carefully to what others say around him in the video and read what the post wrote in the first video uploaded for the incident. You put your own video discussing the video, so you should know what happened before the video recorded.
hansungpil 5 months ago
@hansungpil "You're saying as it's ok not to know nonstandard Korean." No, I'm not. I'm just noting that it would not be surprising for someone who has only been in Korea for 6 months to not be familiar with 니가. However this is just a story until I get the source. "You put your own video discussing the video, so you should know what happened before the video recorded." I've been asking for a source for more than a week. No one has been able to give me one.
72daystar 5 months ago
@72daystar Do your own research to complete your video.
hansungpil 5 months ago
@hansungpil This was a video response. I have the right to express my opinion. If anyone has evidence that what I have said or written is wrong, I would prefer the slight embarrassment of being corrected rather than continue with incorrect information.
72daystar 5 months ago
@72daystar So please find the Black idiot and explain what 니가 means. Nobody knows, he will slice next Korean saying 니가 next time. I hear 니가 at least 10 times a day. If he doesn't know what it means, it's a disaster for both him and his victim, isn't it?
hansungpil 5 months ago
@hansungpil I think the "Niga" story is not true.
72daystar 5 months ago
@72daystar so why do you think the idiot jumping on the older man? Maybe the skinny old man with his daughter next to him tried to prove who's the macho man.
hansungpil 5 months ago
@hansungpil Because the older Korean man said, "Shut up." among other things.That was in the police report. I'm still not sure where the "Niga" story originates. But it is clear that this incident was not due to the young American simply misunderstanding the Korean pronoun for "you". The incident went on for 20 minutes, so I find it difficult to imagine it was a completely one sided problem.
72daystar 5 months ago
@72daystar I hear only shutup from the American, not from the old man. I found a different source who actually pulled out the report from bundang police station.
So who's telling truth, you or the reporter?
hansungpil 5 months ago
@hansungpil Could you give me a link then? Of copy and paste the statement in a comment here? How can I be lying? I'm only siting what Korea Times and Joongang Ilbo reported?
72daystar 5 months ago
@72daystar URL is not allowed in comment since 2010 at youtube. just copy and paste any part of the article in google. it will bring it up.
hansungpil 5 months ago
@hansungpil I've got it, thanks.
72daystar 5 months ago
Let me tell again, the video has nothing to do with racism in Korea. You got the video as a very wrong example to tell your story in Korea
hansungpil 5 months ago
@hansungpil "Let me tell again, the video has nothing to do with racism in Korea. You got the video as a very wrong example to tell your story in Korea" How do you know what happened on the bus was or wasn't an example of racism? Your second remark I don't understand.
72daystar 5 months ago
@72daystar How do you know it's racism related incident watching the video? You related racism regarding the video where one black man assaulting the older man, so you should have clue why you relate racism to the video.
hansungpil 5 months ago
@hansungpil In my response I say,"...I do encounter some racism and prejudice." And I added that black people would more likely than me encounter racism. Is this what you're talking about? Do you have a question?
72daystar 5 months ago
i don't know what to do with racism in Korea in this video. If white does the same in my bus, I'm driving my bus right away to police station.
hansungpil 5 months ago
@yuriyuri92 I have not found a good source for that story. If you have one please tell me.
72daystar 5 months ago
@72daystar it was reported in korean press
melonbarmonster 5 months ago
@melonbarmonster Site the article then.
72daystar 5 months ago
@72daystar if you're interested in having an informed opinion it would behoove you to research it yourself dude. No skin off my back if you have the cite or not.
melonbarmonster 5 months ago
@melonbarmonster I have found articles to that effect and I have updated the annotations and provided a link in the description box.
72daystar 5 months ago
Hello!! ^^
i was so impressed when i saw that video, 'cause in colombia, black people are really normal, i mean they are kind and respectull like any other citizen.... but i have to recognize than that video scared me a lot!!! black people is always like that in USA???
Andreamusic1000 5 months ago
@Andreamusic1000 "black people is always like that in USA???" Not at all. And I would wager that this young black man is not like this all the time. The video may well represent him at his worst for 1 minute 19 seconds. That really isn't much to decide what he is really like. At the same time I really do see what he did as a mistake, and I hope we see less of this kind of video in the future.
72daystar 5 months ago
Funny how the poster "has been at the receiving end of racism in Korea" but has managed to deal with it without chimping out on an elder (which is a complete and total no-no in Korea). Yet you put a male black on a Korean bus and he chimps out at the first opportunity. If I were Korean, I wouldn't allow male blacks in my country at all.
weightlifterf2 5 months ago
@weightlifterf2 Note: 1st He was in Korea for 6 months, so this could hardly be "...at the first opportunity." 2nd - don't think I wasn't tempted at times. 3rd - I've met a number of African Americans who contribute to English education in this country. Finally judging by your history of comments on You Tube you seem to be obsessed with race, particularly the African race. You might want to bring that up in therapy.
72daystar 5 months ago
hey do you have proof that the black dude was discminated in the bus?? everyone in the bus sure seem to put up with his ass farly well while he talk like creazy dude from some gangster movies lol
tochjo772 5 months ago
@tochjo772 Two daily news papers site the police report that says the Korean man told him to "shut up" in English and continued to talk at him in Korean. Koreans usually do try to be patient, endure, and avoid conflicts; however many Koreans work long hours for weeks at a time with no holiday, so late Saturday night many of the people on that bus were likely tired after finishing work. Perhaps that's why the older Korean man felt justified.
72daystar 5 months ago
Actually it's the jerks who are racist to the people from other countries, not all of them. Just ignore those idiots.
TheSonsuwee96 5 months ago
@TheSonsuwee96 That's probably a good strategy. But it can be tough sometimes.
72daystar 5 months ago
@72daystar Yeah... needs a lot of perseverance..
TheSonsuwee96 5 months ago
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rokkcop 5 months ago
@rokkcop Wouldn't that be impractically large?
72daystar 5 months ago
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rokkcop 5 months ago
@rokkcop You're just butt hurt because I pointed out that that would be an impratically long sashimi knife. You probably meant to say 30 cms... I suppose.
72daystar 5 months ago
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rokkcop 5 months ago
@rokkcop Dude, you're just butt hurt because I called you on your baseless assertion, and I'm as much a wigger as you are a gentlemen and a scholar.
72daystar 5 months ago
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rokkcop 5 months ago
@rokkcop lol
72daystar 5 months ago
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rokkcop 5 months ago
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rokkcop 5 months ago
Oh wipee doo. The black guy will get racism "double times" compared to your white ass from the Korean public? Puleez. If you are one of the millions of ESLer's who are hating your life living in S Korea, then buy a one-way ticket and get the fuck out of Korea! I am pissed off that you seem to be defending the black faggot for his assault on the elderly Korean male. There is NO, repeat, NO, excuse for punching and strangling an elderly male in Korea.
TwistyTies90 5 months ago
@TwistyTies90 I am in no way shape or form defending the young man. I am merely contextualizing. There are not millions of ESLers in Korea. I don't hate my life here I love it. So many misguided assumptions in one post.
72daystar 5 months ago
@TwistyTies90 I might actually care about what you've written here if you hadn't these comments elsewhere. To quote your last two: "@luigi33333333 sorry, but it's usually blacks like this fag nigga who chimps out and start attacking ..." and "@ThusSpakeDenise. This is why whenever I have to travel to inner city ghettoes in the US to make deliveries, I carry mace or a baton with me. I never trust these violent-prone coons." Get a life, start by favoriting some other videos youtube has to offer.
comatosed 5 months ago
Young American? You mean Black guy. He may be an American English teacher, but the problem is the violent nature associated with his color. The title seems to suggest there is a problem with American English teachers.
BufirdMauhaney 5 months ago
@BufirdMauhaney The title was just being descriptive. It is his actions that are violent, not his color.
72daystar 5 months ago