If you don't believe the Bible, then how did the earth come around? Was it the product of a chance that gasses would combine and then explode, creating a round mass filled with life, water, and elements? That would be like if you took all the parts of a boeing 747 and threw them all in a field, then by some chance a tornado happend to strike that field and whoa, suddenly all the parts assembled and created a complete 747!!! What a load of crap.
If you don't know how the Earth "came around" (I'm assuming you meant "formed"), you should take a college-level astronomy or cosmology class. That old, tired, stupid boing 747 argument was put down perfectly in the book "The God Delusion", by Richard Dawkins. People that confuse machines and other designed things with life do not understand the power of evolution.
Any sort of creator, who would make a planet like that, would surely be more complex than the planet. You've explained nothing.
In bringing up a god, you not only have explained nothing (for instance, HOW did god do it? With his magical god powers? Think about it; HOW did he do it?) but you have also aggravated the problem tenfold. Attempting to claim that the Earth couldn't form randomly on its own might be a valid standpoint, if you are ignorant of the forces that shape our universe.
It is, however, an assumption of the worst kind to automatically assume that "God" wins by default. Terrible assumption, indeed.
You just think you're so damn smart, don't ya? I take it you're a priveliged white boy who's never experienced war or disaster and you're just so HIGH on yourself.
Not that it is really your business (but I couldn't help the irony), I have never had a privilege that I haven't earned (except for, arguably, being alive), I have fought in two wars, helped those in need in several disasters, and I think you are being deluded if you imagine that you can speculate blindly about the causes of the mental states of strangers.
so true the bible does contradict it self many times^^ now i wish i had a quarter everytime some christian said i must be "saved"^^ STAY THE FUCK AWAY!^^
You are an uneducated fool. I've been watching with great anticipation in the past week or so as you erased several well-formed opposing questions. Censorship... I had hoped they would lead to some educated discussion, but it seems I was expecting far too much from you. You pitiful sack of shit. Get a life, you ugly sonofabitch. If you can't answer the questions of those you're bitching at online, what fucking good are you?
I would respond, if it wasn't from the same spamming asswipe. I suppose you, also, are just the same person (pretending to be someone else.) I will be more than happy to delete your spam every time you vomit it up-it amuses me more to just watch you obsess over it.
Your arguments are both logical and well thought out. However, the rabid religious don't care about either one. They need those half truths, selective evidence and arguments from emotion; that is really all they have. Well, there's also intolerance and ad hominem attacks...but that's only if god tells them to! Keep trying to convince them, though. I admire your sunny optimism.
Whereas I am pissed about your assertions on the labor movement, I still enjoy you commentary. Tell me, where did you learn of ancient history (relative to religion) in such detail?
The coercive and violent forces employed by the labor movement, or even simply following it's stated goals to their logical ends, bring about a distorted market that ruins exactly what they have been chasing. It reminds me of a heroin addict chasing the dragon; eventually labor demands itself out of a job, after ruining the market and forcing the jobs overseas.
I won't even get into the fact that you are clumping crime lords in with millions of hard working people who fought for justice, equality, fair wages, representation, and a safe work environment (it is clear you know little of labor history from the worker's perspective). You say they ruined the market, which is economist speak for their hard work was not worth the profits to be made at the top, and a loss in maximum profit to shareholders. From a workers' perspective, greed is to blame.
Those crime lords were (and maybe still are) being paid directly by gullible and hard-working men and women. As it turns out, I know quite a bit about labor history, although I could see why someone would attempt to assert otherwise when someone doesn't agree with them.
Anyone who attempts to cite "greed" as a negative thing in the marketplace either does not understand classical economics or is willfully incorrect about it based on some misguided moral concept.
If you have some valuable commodity to offer (i.e. labor), then you can expect to get what it's worth on the open market. For instance, if a company is not offering you what your labor is worth (what money it could make for him, minus profits to offset his labor and risk as business owner), then the next company that is doing similar things will provide you that same job for more money, purely out of greed. If the new business owner can hire you away from your old boss, he makes money.
Even considering that new boss, if you are not receiving what your labor is worth, yet another "greed" driven person would be willing to pay you more, because you could make more money for him than if you didn't work for him (or her). This continues, or happens during your application process, when you try to find a job. It is not a businesses fault if your labor is worthless or nearly so; get educated, skilled, or make your own business. Greed is a force for prosperity. Classic economics.
Good point about the part of the mistranslations of the cross. There seem to be a lot of mistranslations throughout history in the bible and as times change, the meaning behind the words get lost. I agree what you said about Pluto. I heard that scientists are calling it a dwarf planet now, but I think Pluto will always be considered a planet by most people.
Technically it is a dwarf planet and I was in an astronomy class when that whole ordeal was happening; my class always had little arguments on it, and I was always playfully on Pluto's side (as a planet.) Although, really, you could re-define almost anything out of existence. The problem with Pluto is that it qualifies for everything else except that it needs to clear its own orbit (damn you, Saturn!)
I guess that the LOTR is a warning that religions, "-isms", or any other form of power are always a danger to societies (despite Tolkien neglected any allegories), but living a life freely and independently, without obeying but with respect to the environment is the Holy Grail.
That is interesting for you to say, considering that Tolkien himself was a devout catholic, and that the books are full of persons of authority who are displayed as allmost flawless supermen. Tolkien was really into monarchy.
Both Gandalf and Galadriel were tempted to get ultimate power but they had passed the test, unlike Gollum who was finally betrayed. Even the existence of unbalanced power caused major problems in Middle Earth, but when it vanished, everything started flourishing again.
Sticks???? Hahahahahahahaha
sk8terbruhXD4653 6 months ago
Abortedsoul lol... more like abortion soul bahahahahahaha
sk8terbruhXD4653 10 months ago
You assfuck. God exists PERIOD!!! no questions asked
sk8terbruhXD4653 10 months ago
@sk8terbruhXD4653 Of course, what was I thinking.
Your Christian charity, eloquence and infallible logic have swayed me beyond any reasonable doubt. My mistake.
abortedsoul 10 months ago
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shave that shit under your nose you're ugly as fuck
Pensi1234 3 years ago
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were you drinking chocolate milk? I suggest you wait until you finish puberty to grow facial hair
mikesternberg 3 years ago
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wtf are you trying to prove? thats my only question.....
ESP1EMG 3 years ago
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You're name is abortedsoul. That is all i know. it is yours? Now that is something to debate ;'o.
silentwhistle 3 years ago
If you don't believe the Bible, then how did the earth come around? Was it the product of a chance that gasses would combine and then explode, creating a round mass filled with life, water, and elements? That would be like if you took all the parts of a boeing 747 and threw them all in a field, then by some chance a tornado happend to strike that field and whoa, suddenly all the parts assembled and created a complete 747!!! What a load of crap.
savedfromthenoose 3 years ago
If you don't know how the Earth "came around" (I'm assuming you meant "formed"), you should take a college-level astronomy or cosmology class. That old, tired, stupid boing 747 argument was put down perfectly in the book "The God Delusion", by Richard Dawkins. People that confuse machines and other designed things with life do not understand the power of evolution.
Any sort of creator, who would make a planet like that, would surely be more complex than the planet. You've explained nothing.
abortedsoul 3 years ago
In bringing up a god, you not only have explained nothing (for instance, HOW did god do it? With his magical god powers? Think about it; HOW did he do it?) but you have also aggravated the problem tenfold. Attempting to claim that the Earth couldn't form randomly on its own might be a valid standpoint, if you are ignorant of the forces that shape our universe.
It is, however, an assumption of the worst kind to automatically assume that "God" wins by default. Terrible assumption, indeed.
abortedsoul 3 years ago
Nigger
JoBice69 3 years ago
Corn was right. You are HIGH on yourself. Well, probably not now seeing as you haven't logged-in in about a month. What's going on there?
ampex378 3 years ago
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you're full of shit
ampex378 3 years ago 2
You just think you're so damn smart, don't ya? I take it you're a priveliged white boy who's never experienced war or disaster and you're just so HIGH on yourself.
CornInMyShitz 3 years ago
Not that it is really your business (but I couldn't help the irony), I have never had a privilege that I haven't earned (except for, arguably, being alive), I have fought in two wars, helped those in need in several disasters, and I think you are being deluded if you imagine that you can speculate blindly about the causes of the mental states of strangers.
abortedsoul 3 years ago
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Perhaps it's none of my business(and I'm not saying it is, but I can't help but wonder) which two wars have you fought in?
Ready4Nukes 3 years ago
so true the bible does contradict it self many times^^ now i wish i had a quarter everytime some christian said i must be "saved"^^ STAY THE FUCK AWAY!^^
Jacread 3 years ago
Didn't theists first say that the world was flat?
0411gjl 3 years ago 2
God what is god. GOD IS DEAD IF HE EVER EXISTED!
just to humor you people; STRIKE ME DOWN NOW YOU CRAZED BASTARD. If i comment tommorrow, wait lets take this one step at a time...
burstoffuckingrage 3 years ago
You are an uneducated fool. I've been watching with great anticipation in the past week or so as you erased several well-formed opposing questions. Censorship... I had hoped they would lead to some educated discussion, but it seems I was expecting far too much from you. You pitiful sack of shit. Get a life, you ugly sonofabitch. If you can't answer the questions of those you're bitching at online, what fucking good are you?
addlemanas 3 years ago
I would respond, if it wasn't from the same spamming asswipe. I suppose you, also, are just the same person (pretending to be someone else.) I will be more than happy to delete your spam every time you vomit it up-it amuses me more to just watch you obsess over it.
abortedsoul 3 years ago
Good to SEE you!
denisespolly 3 years ago
Your arguments are both logical and well thought out. However, the rabid religious don't care about either one. They need those half truths, selective evidence and arguments from emotion; that is really all they have. Well, there's also intolerance and ad hominem attacks...but that's only if god tells them to! Keep trying to convince them, though. I admire your sunny optimism.
myohomojo 3 years ago
I am just bringing this into the light; breaking the unspoken rule of not demanding reasonableness from someone's truth-claims about the universe.
abortedsoul 3 years ago
wait a minute, couldnt really hear u in the beginning did this idiot say there were no dinosaurs?
jeremygregersen 3 years ago
Whereas I am pissed about your assertions on the labor movement, I still enjoy you commentary. Tell me, where did you learn of ancient history (relative to religion) in such detail?
brokendave 3 years ago
The coercive and violent forces employed by the labor movement, or even simply following it's stated goals to their logical ends, bring about a distorted market that ruins exactly what they have been chasing. It reminds me of a heroin addict chasing the dragon; eventually labor demands itself out of a job, after ruining the market and forcing the jobs overseas.
abortedsoul 3 years ago
I won't even get into the fact that you are clumping crime lords in with millions of hard working people who fought for justice, equality, fair wages, representation, and a safe work environment (it is clear you know little of labor history from the worker's perspective). You say they ruined the market, which is economist speak for their hard work was not worth the profits to be made at the top, and a loss in maximum profit to shareholders. From a workers' perspective, greed is to blame.
brokendave 3 years ago
Those crime lords were (and maybe still are) being paid directly by gullible and hard-working men and women. As it turns out, I know quite a bit about labor history, although I could see why someone would attempt to assert otherwise when someone doesn't agree with them.
Anyone who attempts to cite "greed" as a negative thing in the marketplace either does not understand classical economics or is willfully incorrect about it based on some misguided moral concept.
abortedsoul 3 years ago
If you have some valuable commodity to offer (i.e. labor), then you can expect to get what it's worth on the open market. For instance, if a company is not offering you what your labor is worth (what money it could make for him, minus profits to offset his labor and risk as business owner), then the next company that is doing similar things will provide you that same job for more money, purely out of greed. If the new business owner can hire you away from your old boss, he makes money.
abortedsoul 3 years ago
Even considering that new boss, if you are not receiving what your labor is worth, yet another "greed" driven person would be willing to pay you more, because you could make more money for him than if you didn't work for him (or her). This continues, or happens during your application process, when you try to find a job. It is not a businesses fault if your labor is worthless or nearly so; get educated, skilled, or make your own business. Greed is a force for prosperity. Classic economics.
abortedsoul 3 years ago
Very nicely done.
ProfMTH 3 years ago
5&F
oh, and matt? what kind of planet has an elliptical orbit, motherfucker? :D
my15minutes 3 years ago
my15minutes: "oh, and matt? what kind of planet has an elliptical orbit, motherfucker? :D"
Um, all of them?
There's this cool thing called the Internet, and it lets you do research. You should check it out!
OccamKant 3 years ago
hey occam!
there's this cool thing called who the fuck asked you? :D
what i said is a joke, to my buddy matt here from the movie, "Me, Myself, & Irene".
why don't you go check *that* out, and enjoy, instead of badgering strangers with unfunny sarcasm?
my15minutes 3 years ago
Wow. Sounds like you got some sand in your mangina.
OccamKant 3 years ago
Good point about the part of the mistranslations of the cross. There seem to be a lot of mistranslations throughout history in the bible and as times change, the meaning behind the words get lost. I agree what you said about Pluto. I heard that scientists are calling it a dwarf planet now, but I think Pluto will always be considered a planet by most people.
HaleyMary 3 years ago
Technically it is a dwarf planet and I was in an astronomy class when that whole ordeal was happening; my class always had little arguments on it, and I was always playfully on Pluto's side (as a planet.) Although, really, you could re-define almost anything out of existence. The problem with Pluto is that it qualifies for everything else except that it needs to clear its own orbit (damn you, Saturn!)
abortedsoul 3 years ago
I guess that the LOTR is a warning that religions, "-isms", or any other form of power are always a danger to societies (despite Tolkien neglected any allegories), but living a life freely and independently, without obeying but with respect to the environment is the Holy Grail.
uncertaintyprinciple 3 years ago
That is interesting for you to say, considering that Tolkien himself was a devout catholic, and that the books are full of persons of authority who are displayed as allmost flawless supermen. Tolkien was really into monarchy.
Killersepp 3 years ago
Both Gandalf and Galadriel were tempted to get ultimate power but they had passed the test, unlike Gollum who was finally betrayed. Even the existence of unbalanced power caused major problems in Middle Earth, but when it vanished, everything started flourishing again.
uncertaintyprinciple 3 years ago