I have religious friends sure, of many different faiths, backgrounds, opinions, cultures, colors etc. We get along fine, it's our human nature, and we are social creatures.
I can say on the other hand, that in my personal experience, religious disagreements can be among the most bitter, and bring out the worst in people. I have never personally seen religion esteem a person of another faith.
We humans have more disagreements in our lives. For instance:
Violence Against Women in the United States
MURDER. Every day four women die in this country as a result of domestic violence, the euphemism for murders and assaults by husbands and boyfriends. That's approximately 1,400 women a year, according to the FBI. The number of women who have been murdered by their intimate partners is greater than the number of soldiers killed in the Vietnam War.
You are discussing a peripheral issue. Domestic violence has seldom sparked mass hatred or wars on the same scale as religion, and it does not diminish the facts.
Fortunately gender violence is becoming less accepted by people. - Except if a man is the victim.
Watch this clip once: watch?v=n9IHcwmws1U consider that it got to TV. Next imagine a perfect gender reversal: man is woman, and woman is man, and consider if that would get on TV. Where's that kind of ad? Is it gender equality?
My point was, attach some cables into the brain and see if it is gender difference, religion, politics or something in the brain that causes violence whatever the excuses are... amygdala for instance, is a better explanation.
Clearly there is a neurological aspect to violence; there is also the environmental interaction that provides the motive and pattern of violence. Culprits include the 'afterlife', the 'will of god' etc.
Fundamentalist Christians have attacked Jewish centers, attempted to poison municipal water supplies, bombed abortion clinics, and assassinated abortion providers. Jews killed for their 'promised land'. Muslims routinely suicide bomb civilians, and conducted 9-11.
At the same time many people devote time & money to charity because of faith. There is no doubt that for every bad person motivated by religion, we have maybe thoussands trying to do something good. The problem is the bias... To help people abusing faith by blaming faith...
Paralaks there is some doubt, as although there are few atheist countries, they donate just as much, and in some cases more than theist countries (per capita, per $1000 of GDP). These include the Netherlands (3rd), and Sweden (7th). The top 2 donating countries have atheist populations above 15%. This is hardly a flawless correlation, as the Netherlands and Sweden are in northern Europe, but it is sufficient for doubt. I yearn for people to help each other, not out of delusion but compassion.
pktheunbearable: This is my last reply to you. Read and spend some time to understand my critics otherwise you will NOT find me as a collocutor. It is fun to reply you but I do not have to.
"The top 2 donating countries have atheist populations above 15%" does say nothing about who make that donations, or what type of donations made, ie for tax exemption?
And by the way our topic was history. How Muslim and Christian congregations lived in peace...
Every Adam beings should be against arms and weapons, against producing, also not with economical causes. But every country in the world including USA! Specially USA! With Lies are they wars FULL, fully FULL!
Many of the prophecies foretold in the Holy Bible has already come to pass. Many await fulfillment. Everything has been, is and will be as it written.
According to Islam, God always sent messengers to tribes and I heard of the number of messengers as many as 124000 or 224000, not certain. Most did not have a book like Qoran or Bible. Some had only a few pages. Maybe this has something to do with your question.
The Qu'ran is wholly a counterfeit of the Bible; both the Old and New Testaments.
The satanic doctrine the emanate from the Qu'ran and Hadiths gives the full and complete explanation as to why Islam is so heavily intertwined in violence and conflict across the world in modern times.
Yeah, here you a proof. Do not hesitate to share:
s, God is the one who gives the battle cry and insists on killing every man, woman and child in the "enemy" camp. Jesus, Prince of Peace, says, "I came not to send peace, but a sword" (Matthew 10:34b).
And that sword is the Word of God which the Lord Jesus brought; the Gospel.
''For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.'' Hebrews 4:12
And those events/people are supposed to be a direct consequence of true Christianity and the Holy Bible? Likewise, don't expect any fair minded knowledgeable person to take you seriously if that's your argument.
This is you today: "And those events/people are supposed to be a direct consequence of true Christianity and the Holy Bible? "
But you were like this yesterday: "The satanic doctrine the emanate from the Qu'ran and Hadiths gives the full and complete explanation as to why Islam is so heavily intertwined in violence and conflict across the world in modern times."
Glad to see that you are making a progress kid...
Nice to see you inadvertently admit you know little to nothing about Islam and its doctrine. Perhaps the concept of Islamic terrorism eludes you as well.
Mr. Everybullshit expert: if you had a little brain and click on the link that will take you to PBS, you would see the list of proffessors contributed to the scritps beyond your understanding. Even, Prof John Renard is a father. In short, you are a miserable, not even a Christian...
Sure, the Muslims brought peace at the edge of a sword. The great Muslim empires were just that, EMPIRES. They killed countless people and stole their land in the name of Allah. Did you forget about this part? By this logic, the Roman Empire was peaceful. The only thing I'll give the Muslims is that they were slightly less barbaric than the Christians. Oh, the video forgot to mention also that Christians and Jews were forced to pay heavy fines and were second class citizens.
This is how the world goes on.The Christians took the pagan temples and turned them to churches.People began to pray for Mary instead of Diana.Look Notre Dame de Paris...Why it dusturb u when the muslims continue to develop art; yes,some great mosques of istanbul were ispired by the Byzantine art, anyway when the byzantine lands were conquered, the art was already in fall, you should thank that muslims developped them in a great harmony.
What bullshit. Muslims invaded Byzantine lands and turned churches into mosques. They took Greek knowledge and achievements and called it their own. This isn't about how two different religions coexist in peace! It's about Islam taking over the other - first through conquest, then immigration and gradual forcing out of others. Just look and see how many Christians are left in these lands today and see how well they coexist.
I had been there once. I was suprised to see everything rubbed out except the mosaics of Isa (Jesus) and his disciples since He is dear to Muslims. They looked fake, ugly to me but coquerors thought they were valuable... ;)
Who says that? Your little church's tiny minister or your genious butt?
This is the truth that hurts you as much as the lies you wanna believe in. Why resisting the truth? It was like this and it will be like this again, but not with endeavours of people like you....
If she literally said thay something is wrong with her. I guess someone lied on behalf of her. More than half a dozen of professors contributed to this doc. That means a lot...
It just shows how tolerent islam was before the crusiders the murdres..
uniqueko 2 years ago
I have religious friends sure, of many different faiths, backgrounds, opinions, cultures, colors etc. We get along fine, it's our human nature, and we are social creatures.
I can say on the other hand, that in my personal experience, religious disagreements can be among the most bitter, and bring out the worst in people. I have never personally seen religion esteem a person of another faith.
pktheunbearable 4 years ago
We humans have more disagreements in our lives. For instance:
Violence Against Women in the United States
MURDER. Every day four women die in this country as a result of domestic violence, the euphemism for murders and assaults by husbands and boyfriends. That's approximately 1,400 women a year, according to the FBI. The number of women who have been murdered by their intimate partners is greater than the number of soldiers killed in the Vietnam War.
paralaks 4 years ago
You are discussing a peripheral issue. Domestic violence has seldom sparked mass hatred or wars on the same scale as religion, and it does not diminish the facts.
Fortunately gender violence is becoming less accepted by people. - Except if a man is the victim.
Watch this clip once: watch?v=n9IHcwmws1U consider that it got to TV. Next imagine a perfect gender reversal: man is woman, and woman is man, and consider if that would get on TV. Where's that kind of ad? Is it gender equality?
pktheunbearable 4 years ago
My point was, attach some cables into the brain and see if it is gender difference, religion, politics or something in the brain that causes violence whatever the excuses are... amygdala for instance, is a better explanation.
paralaks 4 years ago
Clearly there is a neurological aspect to violence; there is also the environmental interaction that provides the motive and pattern of violence. Culprits include the 'afterlife', the 'will of god' etc.
Fundamentalist Christians have attacked Jewish centers, attempted to poison municipal water supplies, bombed abortion clinics, and assassinated abortion providers. Jews killed for their 'promised land'. Muslims routinely suicide bomb civilians, and conducted 9-11.
pktheunbearable 4 years ago
At the same time many people devote time & money to charity because of faith. There is no doubt that for every bad person motivated by religion, we have maybe thoussands trying to do something good. The problem is the bias... To help people abusing faith by blaming faith...
paralaks 4 years ago
Paralaks there is some doubt, as although there are few atheist countries, they donate just as much, and in some cases more than theist countries (per capita, per $1000 of GDP). These include the Netherlands (3rd), and Sweden (7th). The top 2 donating countries have atheist populations above 15%. This is hardly a flawless correlation, as the Netherlands and Sweden are in northern Europe, but it is sufficient for doubt. I yearn for people to help each other, not out of delusion but compassion.
pktheunbearable 4 years ago
pktheunbearable: This is my last reply to you. Read and spend some time to understand my critics otherwise you will NOT find me as a collocutor. It is fun to reply you but I do not have to.
"The top 2 donating countries have atheist populations above 15%" does say nothing about who make that donations, or what type of donations made, ie for tax exemption?
And by the way our topic was history. How Muslim and Christian congregations lived in peace...
paralaks 4 years ago
Every Adam beings should be against arms and weapons, against producing, also not with economical causes. But every country in the world including USA! Specially USA! With Lies are they wars FULL, fully FULL!
BirdsChirpALLAH 4 years ago
were you there to prove it?
ramsuz 4 years ago
Proof? The proof is all around.
Many of the prophecies foretold in the Holy Bible has already come to pass. Many await fulfillment. Everything has been, is and will be as it written.
TerryBogardHimself 4 years ago
In truth, Jesus is the Son of God and he died for the sins of all mankind. There is no salvation for anyone but except by the Lord Jesus Christ.
The Lord Jesus warned of false prophets and doctrines of devils and Islam falls under this category completely.
TerryBogardHimself 4 years ago
How do you explain buddhism or mayan religions, something that predates modern christianity by thousands of years?
LunarHigh 3 years ago
According to Islam, God always sent messengers to tribes and I heard of the number of messengers as many as 124000 or 224000, not certain. Most did not have a book like Qoran or Bible. Some had only a few pages. Maybe this has something to do with your question.
paralaks 3 years ago
The Qu'ran is wholly a counterfeit of the Bible; both the Old and New Testaments.
The satanic doctrine the emanate from the Qu'ran and Hadiths gives the full and complete explanation as to why Islam is so heavily intertwined in violence and conflict across the world in modern times.
TerryBogardHimself 4 years ago
Yeah, here you a proof. Do not hesitate to share:
s, God is the one who gives the battle cry and insists on killing every man, woman and child in the "enemy" camp. Jesus, Prince of Peace, says, "I came not to send peace, but a sword" (Matthew 10:34b).
paralaks 4 years ago
And that sword is the Word of God which the Lord Jesus brought; the Gospel.
''For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.'' Hebrews 4:12
TerryBogardHimself 4 years ago
Let me repeat to verify I got it correctly: "Inquisition, Joan of Arc, Massacre of St. Bartholomew, even Hitler" ...
Oh boy! Do not expect anyone rather than your kids to believe such comments of yours.
paralaks 4 years ago
And those events/people are supposed to be a direct consequence of true Christianity and the Holy Bible? Likewise, don't expect any fair minded knowledgeable person to take you seriously if that's your argument.
TerryBogardHimself 4 years ago
This is you today: "And those events/people are supposed to be a direct consequence of true Christianity and the Holy Bible? "
But you were like this yesterday: "The satanic doctrine the emanate from the Qu'ran and Hadiths gives the full and complete explanation as to why Islam is so heavily intertwined in violence and conflict across the world in modern times."
Glad to see that you are making a progress kid...
paralaks 4 years ago
Nice to see you inadvertently admit you know little to nothing about Islam and its doctrine. Perhaps the concept of Islamic terrorism eludes you as well.
This explains the rest of your failed argument.
TerryBogardHimself 4 years ago
And that was a new level of bitching I guess.
Mr. Everybullshit expert: if you had a little brain and click on the link that will take you to PBS, you would see the list of proffessors contributed to the scritps beyond your understanding. Even, Prof John Renard is a father. In short, you are a miserable, not even a Christian...
paralaks 4 years ago
The first and original Muslim was Mohammad at around 600 A.D., the original founder of Islam.
Your warped perception of history is quite appalling.
TerryBogardHimself 4 years ago
Sure, the Muslims brought peace at the edge of a sword. The great Muslim empires were just that, EMPIRES. They killed countless people and stole their land in the name of Allah. Did you forget about this part? By this logic, the Roman Empire was peaceful. The only thing I'll give the Muslims is that they were slightly less barbaric than the Christians. Oh, the video forgot to mention also that Christians and Jews were forced to pay heavy fines and were second class citizens.
user8881 4 years ago
user8881: It is impossible not to invite you comment on this:
watch?v=scYx7Lr2m-U
paralaks 4 years ago
This is how the world goes on.The Christians took the pagan temples and turned them to churches.People began to pray for Mary instead of Diana.Look Notre Dame de Paris...Why it dusturb u when the muslims continue to develop art; yes,some great mosques of istanbul were ispired by the Byzantine art, anyway when the byzantine lands were conquered, the art was already in fall, you should thank that muslims developped them in a great harmony.
kurti85 4 years ago
What bullshit. Muslims invaded Byzantine lands and turned churches into mosques. They took Greek knowledge and achievements and called it their own. This isn't about how two different religions coexist in peace! It's about Islam taking over the other - first through conquest, then immigration and gradual forcing out of others. Just look and see how many Christians are left in these lands today and see how well they coexist.
mwe1967 4 years ago
Yeah, we're going to believe a random YouTube commenter over many respected scholars and common knowledge.
Fuck. You.
omegamanGXE 4 years ago
Hagia Sophia
Black Tuesday on a Monday
mwe1967 4 years ago
I had been there once. I was suprised to see everything rubbed out except the mosaics of Isa (Jesus) and his disciples since He is dear to Muslims. They looked fake, ugly to me but coquerors thought they were valuable... ;)
paralaks 4 years ago
There was a survey of how British/American/Western are you.. behold 60% were gays and 40% paedophiles.. "WoW" I mean what the Fuck....
so you see why the Muslims never conquered these lands as they were bad for the genes.
X1REME 4 years ago
Who says that? Your little church's tiny minister or your genious butt?
This is the truth that hurts you as much as the lies you wanna believe in. Why resisting the truth? It was like this and it will be like this again, but not with endeavours of people like you....
paralaks 4 years ago
Karen Armstrong: what a lying documentary.
Don't trust one word she has to say.
AlanCom1 4 years ago
If she literally said thay something is wrong with her. I guess someone lied on behalf of her. More than half a dozen of professors contributed to this doc. That means a lot...
paralaks 4 years ago
I guess you believe islam is a religion of peace as well?!
AlanCom1 4 years ago
Was that the point?
paralaks 4 years ago
This so called doc is very pro islamic i.e. it's bullshit. We all know how they expanded their empire.
AlanCom1 4 years ago
Just came across:
watch?v=5RADmt--wNU
paralaks 4 years ago
The video supports my ideas.
AlanCom1 4 years ago
Haha, which sentence of Ken Miller exactly does that if you do not mind?
paralaks 4 years ago