Set the elephants free. They don't belong in zoos. Boycott all circuses as these animals are abused. It's the people that can make a change for these innocent animals if we don't support this stuff.
This Zoo is probably the number one worst zoo for elephants on my list. It's apalling. Sickening. Inhumane and cruel. It would be like being trapped in a small bedroom with nothing to do.
Excellent, informative video. If anyone should know about the damage these small enclosures cause to elephants, such as the one at the L.A. Zoo, it's vets at the L.A. Zoo that have treated these very elephants, and the former curator. Glad to hear them speak out on this issue. This is the plain reality of the suffering that these elephants endure, all for a profit. it's not wildlife education to see an elephant bobbing his hour after hour, all day long. These zoos are sad commentary.
And I have heard the argument that he would be fighting with males or whatever, something similar to that at least if he was in a sanctuary, but the solution is not to keep him caged up. And yes, I agree with littleblueteacup, maybe if you were caged, you might think differently. That is not me _wishing_ an ill on you, its trying to get you to think logically, with your heart not your pocket. Whether you benefit financially or not, I don't care. Whats next, bringing back ivory?!
There is no argument, whatever way you look at it, more acres and companions for Billy (as I believe he is alone, yes?) is simply the logical conclusion. 3.5 acres?!. I have not studied elephants in any big way, but anyone with a heart can see that what is going on at LA Zoo is not _right_. If there were no sanctuaries, it would be a different story. But there are, and Billy could be so much happier. FFS, he has ended up with neurosis which he most likely wouldn't have developed in the wild.
This video can only be described as ELEPHANT PROPAGANDA. It disregards the zoo's efforts, positing they know nothing about the animals in their care. It labels sanctuary as the only viable option - neglecting to mention the hardships Billy would face there. And it makes FALSE CLAIMS about his head-bobbing. Through spliced footage, it appears as if that's all he does. I've stood by his exhibit watching him for hours on end - he does more than you could imagine. PROTECT BILLY - SUPPORT THE ZOO.
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I'm sorry but you PRO-CAPTIVITY people are really getting desperate. How can you argue for keeping a poor animal in captivity knowing full well his feet will deteriorate with time. Not to mention that he is lonely. I wish YOU elite snobs would be locked in a cage with no place to roam as it would serve you right. Tom Labonge should be RECALLED for this, so should Janice Hahn who is his stooge, and Wendy Gruel who could care less about Billy. Call your Council people and demand Billy be freed.
Talonz, you are an idiot. Your argument is that elephants should suffer so that your fat ass can see them up close. Sorry, but this is the 21st century and suffering is suffering no matter how you try to candy coat it. FREE BILLY NOW!!!
Feel free to think me an idiot, I was just expressing my opinion. I respect that we both have our own opinions. After all, we were both raised differently. If the world was perfect I would very much support wilderness over zoos, but sadly we don't live in a perfect world. And I'm sorry if my argument sounded selfish, that's not what I meant at all.
So this is not all negative, I like your support of same-sex couples. Being lesbian, I know it's difficult getting through high school.
I don't get your logic. The world isn't perfect. So let's put the animals in a zoo. It's like saying. My neighborhood isn't perfect. So I'm going to lock myself in my house for the rest of my life.
One of the main reasons the L.A. Zoo houses elephants is because of the educational value they give us city folk. As for the clip with the Animal Planet watcher: I watch Animal Planet too sir. I changed the channel when elephants were on because they were so boring! BUT when I saw an elephant with my own eyes, I thought "Oh they do need protection!" The zoo charges pretty good admission. I cannot afford to pay for a trip to see elephants in a sanctuary miles away!
May I also add that the San Diego Wild Animal Park houses six asian elephants in 2.5 acres? I understand the concerns about housing 10 elephants. It will not get that far. I highly doubt there will ever be more than 3 elephants in the enclosure. My reasoning? Humans have the logic. I know my rat's cage is just right. If I want another rat, I'll have to buy a larger cage. The elephant exhibit will be better. Want another elephant? Make sure there's enough room and more!
What this video fails to explain the exhibit DESIGN. I would advocate sending Billy to a sanctuary IF the zoo wasn't trying to improve conditions. The fact is, the Zoo is trying to create a stepping stone to elephant care. Rather than coat the new exhibit in cement and pack dirt, they're planning to lay the terrain in the softest manner possible. That 62% of elephants with foot problems is an alarm, BUT that must mean the there 38% are doing something right!
First off, I don't want any whinny responses. You will lose my respect if you're way older than me and reply in chatspeak. I watched the video with a clear mind. I view both sides in all issues: now I am expressing my PERSONAL opinion.
Set the elephants free. They don't belong in zoos. Boycott all circuses as these animals are abused. It's the people that can make a change for these innocent animals if we don't support this stuff.
11301920 8 months ago
This Zoo is probably the number one worst zoo for elephants on my list. It's apalling. Sickening. Inhumane and cruel. It would be like being trapped in a small bedroom with nothing to do.
awesomeH2O 1 year ago
Boycott zoo ditto
fight4animals 1 year ago
Excellent, informative video. If anyone should know about the damage these small enclosures cause to elephants, such as the one at the L.A. Zoo, it's vets at the L.A. Zoo that have treated these very elephants, and the former curator. Glad to hear them speak out on this issue. This is the plain reality of the suffering that these elephants endure, all for a profit. it's not wildlife education to see an elephant bobbing his hour after hour, all day long. These zoos are sad commentary.
dfabpeck 1 year ago
And I have heard the argument that he would be fighting with males or whatever, something similar to that at least if he was in a sanctuary, but the solution is not to keep him caged up. And yes, I agree with littleblueteacup, maybe if you were caged, you might think differently. That is not me _wishing_ an ill on you, its trying to get you to think logically, with your heart not your pocket. Whether you benefit financially or not, I don't care. Whats next, bringing back ivory?!
SkUnKaDeLiC 3 years ago
There is no argument, whatever way you look at it, more acres and companions for Billy (as I believe he is alone, yes?) is simply the logical conclusion. 3.5 acres?!. I have not studied elephants in any big way, but anyone with a heart can see that what is going on at LA Zoo is not _right_. If there were no sanctuaries, it would be a different story. But there are, and Billy could be so much happier. FFS, he has ended up with neurosis which he most likely wouldn't have developed in the wild.
SkUnKaDeLiC 3 years ago
This video can only be described as ELEPHANT PROPAGANDA. It disregards the zoo's efforts, positing they know nothing about the animals in their care. It labels sanctuary as the only viable option - neglecting to mention the hardships Billy would face there. And it makes FALSE CLAIMS about his head-bobbing. Through spliced footage, it appears as if that's all he does. I've stood by his exhibit watching him for hours on end - he does more than you could imagine. PROTECT BILLY - SUPPORT THE ZOO.
ZooClips85 3 years ago
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I'm sorry but you PRO-CAPTIVITY people are really getting desperate. How can you argue for keeping a poor animal in captivity knowing full well his feet will deteriorate with time. Not to mention that he is lonely. I wish YOU elite snobs would be locked in a cage with no place to roam as it would serve you right. Tom Labonge should be RECALLED for this, so should Janice Hahn who is his stooge, and Wendy Gruel who could care less about Billy. Call your Council people and demand Billy be freed.
littleblueteacup 3 years ago
Ah ah ah.
"Wish an ill on someone jack ...
And you will get it ten-fold back."
ZooClips85 3 years ago
Talonz, you are an idiot. Your argument is that elephants should suffer so that your fat ass can see them up close. Sorry, but this is the 21st century and suffering is suffering no matter how you try to candy coat it. FREE BILLY NOW!!!
littleblueteacup 3 years ago
Feel free to think me an idiot, I was just expressing my opinion. I respect that we both have our own opinions. After all, we were both raised differently. If the world was perfect I would very much support wilderness over zoos, but sadly we don't live in a perfect world. And I'm sorry if my argument sounded selfish, that's not what I meant at all.
So this is not all negative, I like your support of same-sex couples. Being lesbian, I know it's difficult getting through high school.
Talonz 3 years ago 3
@Talonz
I don't get your logic. The world isn't perfect. So let's put the animals in a zoo. It's like saying. My neighborhood isn't perfect. So I'm going to lock myself in my house for the rest of my life.
veggiewarriors 1 year ago
Oh, and thank you for being mature about it. Sometimes it seems people can't type "you are an idiot" instead of "u r an idyot".
Talonz 3 years ago
One of the main reasons the L.A. Zoo houses elephants is because of the educational value they give us city folk. As for the clip with the Animal Planet watcher: I watch Animal Planet too sir. I changed the channel when elephants were on because they were so boring! BUT when I saw an elephant with my own eyes, I thought "Oh they do need protection!" The zoo charges pretty good admission. I cannot afford to pay for a trip to see elephants in a sanctuary miles away!
Talonz 3 years ago
May I also add that the San Diego Wild Animal Park houses six asian elephants in 2.5 acres? I understand the concerns about housing 10 elephants. It will not get that far. I highly doubt there will ever be more than 3 elephants in the enclosure. My reasoning? Humans have the logic. I know my rat's cage is just right. If I want another rat, I'll have to buy a larger cage. The elephant exhibit will be better. Want another elephant? Make sure there's enough room and more!
Talonz 3 years ago 2
What this video fails to explain the exhibit DESIGN. I would advocate sending Billy to a sanctuary IF the zoo wasn't trying to improve conditions. The fact is, the Zoo is trying to create a stepping stone to elephant care. Rather than coat the new exhibit in cement and pack dirt, they're planning to lay the terrain in the softest manner possible. That 62% of elephants with foot problems is an alarm, BUT that must mean the there 38% are doing something right!
Talonz 3 years ago
First off, I don't want any whinny responses. You will lose my respect if you're way older than me and reply in chatspeak. I watched the video with a clear mind. I view both sides in all issues: now I am expressing my PERSONAL opinion.
Talonz 3 years ago
please ppl how can we help ???
omg thats soo sad !
hipshak 3 years ago
why ppl dont do anything ????????????????? why ???
please can yu respond
we are in the 21 em century and those things still exist
c'mon !!!
hipshak 3 years ago
why why why !!!!
THEY WANT TO BE FREE DAMN !!!
let BILLY PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!!
I cant support that , its broke my heart !!
hipshak 3 years ago
keep the elephant in the zoo
pumasgoya 3 years ago