Saturn's Largest Moon Titan: A World Much Like Earth

[ftopdirs]

Thank's For Info and Shared

[ctopdirs]

Nice I like all Video You

[TheJatmikoo]

Mantap Bana Gan

[poodtang1]

With new engines scientists are developing it would take much less then a year to reach Titan.

[xtremetom180]

Sweet, love your vids some interesting data from the probe

[MyDavidsun]

Interesting video!

[andreeaweed]

so much information

[TheSanovita]

Very nice video

[poodtang1]

That's cool it has a solid surface so it can be colonized. A thick atmosphere shields it from radiation unlike Mars which has almost no atmospher.

The colonists could use the methane as a source of energy for whatever.

The only bad things are it's very very cold, and very far away.

Even with the new plasma engines being developed it would still probably a month to get there.

[27sevenSToFo]

@poodtang1 A month? Where did you get that info from? Or do you mean a year? Because thats not even close enough... Pioneer 11 took over 6 years to reach Saturn.

[poodtang1]

@27sevenSToFo

No what i meant to say was that scientists are developing engines that can go 5>10x faster then anything currently available.

[CapoeiraFighter88]

watch it get zerg rushed

[SuperCrazyEstonian]

2020 ? Why so long ?

[beatmywifebeatrice]

well, if the world gets infested with mexicans i know where im going,,

[gurra1351]

I wish Titan was a moon of earth.

[NumbnutzLawL]

@gurra1351 then you would have tidal waves that will rape yo' ass

[27sevenSToFo]

@NumbnutzLawL Wow... Grow up.

[NumbnutzLawL]

@27sevenSToFo Wow... U sure i wanna?

[JeniTheBat]

@NumbnutzLawL :)

[Rollingag1421]

in the future i guess we will be going to titan its kinda like earth but no oxeygon.

[lewisf18]

If u don't like this world, then go to another world

[zwaard13]

... jammer dat sommige mensen bij dit onderwerp over religie gaan praten... oorlog komt niet door geloof, maar door de mensen die hem vertegenwoordigen.

OT: sounds like a great plan to me! :p

[MsMrAtze]

liquid methane?

sounds like a shitload of natural gas to me.

[vossejongk]

@MsMrAtze

Yeah lets transport it all to "our" planet and burn it here and make breathing almost impossible due to gianormous amounts of exhaust gasses!

[MsMrAtze]

@vossejongk

yeah that's what i'm talking about, then we get rid of earth and hop to different planets. sucking them out completely and send all exhaust gasses in the planets air. so we go on forever.

[baasbovenbaass]

Voor God spelen is nooit verstandig,waarom naar een andere planeet zoeken kijk eens hoe mooi de aarde is!

[roelzor12]

@baasbovenbaass wie speelt er voor God dan?



[Kawabunga02]

@baasbovenbaass Goden bestaan niet. Zijn bedacht door mensen, Net als ruimtevaart.

[Darknesszz123]

@baasbovenbaass Ja de aarde is zo mooi! In Japan is een halve nucleaire holocaust aan de gang en in de Arabische landen trappen ze mekaar allemaal de teering in. Ook kan een huldiging van een niet nader te noemen club niet zonder geweld en andere misdragingen plaatsvinden. Leg mij eens uit waarom de wereld zo mooi is dan?

[matoisy]

@Darknesszz123 de wereld is wel mooi alleen de de soort homosapiusbutthurt verkloot hem

[baasbovenbaass]

@Darknesszz123

Jij bent wel erg negatief bezig,zet je vertrouwen op God en je zorgen zullen verdwijnen als sneeuw voor de zon.

Wees een beter mens en help je medemens,daar heb je toch geen extra planeet voor nodig?

Gretigheid komt voor de val hehehe.

[Stonezorz]

@baasbovenbaass

Respect voor je keuze kwa religie maar het is niet eerlijk om anderen te vertellen dat alles in 1 keer beter wordt als ze voor hetzelfde pad kiezen als dat jij volgt.

[Darknesszz123]

@baasbovenbaass Ja op religie vertrouwen dat is handig. Meer dan de helft van de problemen op aarde worden veroorzaakt door religie.

[baasbovenbaass]

@Darknesszz123

Dan is de andere helft te verwijten aan de atheisten.

Dat is niet verkeerd aangezien meer dan 95 procent van de mensen op deze aarde een religie aanhangen.

Doen jullie atheisten toch iets verkeerd.

Nou zijn bijna alle dictaturen gebaseerd op het atheisme dus daar sta ik niet van te kijken.

[Darknesszz123]

smile je staat op geenstijl ;)

[MrAapenkind]

nasa lie lie why already hafe anti grafatie

[xBitage]

Geenstijl!

[thagodfather007]

awesome! now were the aliens!

[FlashFizz]

I can envision a future manned mission where a rocket designed to carry astronauts into Titan orbit parachutes unfueled to the surface. The rocket carried a nuclear reactor which melts the ice-rocks. Oxygen is extracted from the water via electrolysis and is pumped into the rocket. At Titan temperatures, oxygen's vapor pressure is similar to the surface pressure so no refrigeration system is needed to keep it liquid. The lakes would provide the fuel to burn with the oxygen.

[FlashFizz]

A 2009 paper in the Astrophysical Journal suggests that the lakes aren't methane but (by mass) three-fourths ethane, one-tenth propane and a variety of other chemicals making up the rest. Methane accounted for only three percent of the lakes by mass. This new mission would measure the composition directly.

[HNMpepper]

It would be quite hard to terraform Titan. Firstly, unless possibly in the soil or on other moons, there is no oxygen anywhere around. Secondly the gravity (14% of earth) is way to low to sustain such a high temperature atmosphere, if the the moon is heated up (through orbital mirrors or greenhouse gases). Also how would they remove all the excess nitrogen and methane. And finally the only way maybe to get water would be a collision with Enceledus or something.

[Moontanman]

@HNMpepper Titans crust down many miles is water ice but the problems with terra forming titan as you suggest would be enormous.

[hill21r12]

It would be awesome if there was a space suit that could endure the conditions on titan :)

[KarbineKyle]

I hope NASA will do this! I hope they don't cancel it like they did JIMO! Titan is incredible! It's The Great Lakes moon! I wish everyone had an open-mind about these things, because it's things like this that really matter. Earth is all we have right now. To journey into space and other worlds is what will answer the questions that lay deep in our minds! I hope that me, and others, deserving of life, will be able to live long and see more of other unknown, untouched worlds we long to explore.

[ox4poluter]

when are they doing this? 

[austpom333]

And so generating microbe life on the surfaces in the process

[Scrumpilump2000]

Karst means potential caves, right?

[whitekryptonite91]

how does the probe get back to earth?

[nighttrain334]

@whitekryptonite91 It doesnt,its used to send information back to earth and when its mission complete and dies,thats it ,the probe will remain there 4 ever unless a alien gets it and repower it somehow!

[iambehindthemirror]

You should put some dates. The mission will start in 2020, at earliest. If they decide to fund it.

[SOyouTHINKurFUNNY]

the land surface is like goo...unlike water nor solid surface! HOW I KNOW? i was there last vacation

[MrZipMk12]

i dont think so if there its liquid wather... -180°C... impassyble att -30°C wather turns into Ice and att - 180°C wather will be huge ice + Ice vulcanos i dont mean like in earth when +1000°C hot lawa comes no... -1000°C vulcane witch makes ice. Forgot abaut it. Only ice and deserts

[cerverg]

@MrZipMk12 Who said the lakes are made of water? It's liquid methane.

[1RadicalOne]

att -30°C wather turns into Ice

No, that happens at zero. That is the whole point of the centigrade scale.

[mrlopez2681]

these scientists are wasting their time looking for life. Rather, they should merely explore and learn.

[BKsMassive]

@mrlopez2681

you say that... but scientist have found fossilised bacteria on Mars.

as long as a planet is 0-60C and has water and oxygen on it. there will be life.

[isokessu]

@BKsMassive: Well, bacteries can live at least in -100C if it's warmer than that some time of the year

[BKsMassive]

@isokessu

you don't understand. the reason we can live is because the water in our bodies Freezes.

they will have ( if anything will exist ) Methane and instead of Glucose they have something else. i can't remember all the long scientific words :p

but there is a possibility for life in the future. i had Coursework on it.

[isokessu]

@BKsMassive I am on planet Earth. It's 7 Celsius at the moment. Are you saying that in -1 everybody else dies? O_o Welcome to Finland after 2 months when it's winter and you see that there IS life under 0 Celsius.. Isn't that pretty simple thing anyway? Haven't you heard about polar bears which live in -50 or something.. and humans with enough clothes, penguins etc.. There's life everywhere on Earth so why not somewhere on Titan, Mars etc.. Bacteria can live some time even in space!

[BKsMassive]

@isokessu

your a fucking idiot... YOU CAN NOT LIVE ON A SURFACE OF A PLANET AT -180C!

and fuck off... i live in Britain. it's just as cold as Finland. -20C last Winter :(

you don't get it... sorry but please be quite.

[isokessu]

@BKsMassive: at summer South-Finland is warmer place than Britain and in winters Finland is much colder, there can be -45 in Lapland (north Finland) I'm not saying that humans can live in -180C at least without some kind of space suits etc..

[BKsMassive]

@isokessu

yes and your talking about the bit in the arctic circle. where no one lives.

you probably live in south Finland.

and yes. like i was implying. unless Wild animals are born with space suits. they will not live.

[isokessu]

@BKsMassive animals can't survive there but bacterias can, bacterias survive for some time even in space, outside space shuttle for example

[YDDES]

@isokessu It's a whole different thing for life to survive in minus-degrees, and for life to be created at suchlow temperatures. If it had been -20 all over the Earth 4 billion years ago, life hadn't existed.

[CrAyXer]

amazing titan.

[wolfcrapshit]

i think 2 make much like earth we have to put all the icy rocks or ice particles on titan, ten make a huge fire(with all the methane) and a lot of CO2 will be made so alot of sun rays will be trap and it or could make it a bit hoter, if so the methane will go, the ice will be melt, Ice will be water but OXYGEN is the problem, especial moder trees that make oxygn will be good, if there is one.

[Deadboltt]

Oh my god, yes, Launch it! I don't care if taxes have to be raised, get this thing in space NOW!!!

[JonasBrosFan17]

Alieennns! Just kidding, but the universe really intrigues me, it's so interesting. Seriously, what could be out there? You never know. And that's why it's intimidating at the same time.

[SAMHOUSTON56]

Whatever they find there on Titan..."they" wouldn't tell us.

[Jinmane]

Whilst life may be able to adapt to a huge range of environments, the conditions required for life to begin may be very specific. I think that life as we know it probably originated in a much more energetic environment than the sub-surface oceans of Enceladus or Europa, but you never know =)

[APT420]

Mars looks a lot like some of those photos as well.

[GuppyPal]

Absolutely incredible.

[bigboy45454545]

And when they get there, they're going to find God.

He'll be pushing his magic son Jesus on the swing-set, in the back yard.

[TheSpankymonkey]

Do you think they will have baked a cake for our arrival? I mean, well, we all like cake right?

[dangerjuices]

i want punch and pie!

[TheSpankymonkey]

I like pie. :-) Go watch "weeble and bob". They like pie too.

[M0CH4B34R]

LOL

[kufr72]

Bring it.

[MelleB90]

Jules Verne come true indeed.

Carl Sagan would be proud, let's devote ourselves to science and reality instead of supernatural differences invisible from the moon already.

[KasparHauser4]

WiseMonkey888

You're a fast talker....But NO banana pal! :-)

[KasparHauser4]

WiseMonkey888

How are you doing pal?

-250 f is way lower than -19 c

[KasparHauser4]

WiseMonkey888

I just looked it up myself. -250 F = -157 C

[KasparHauser4]

You guys heard this guy say "Liquid lakes" right? Then he showed you pictures of a landing under an earth like sky into what appears to be an ocean like here on earth right?

Are they trying to deceive us for some reason?

These "Lakes" are liquid ethane and methane. Not water like our oceans. The surface temperature of Titan is well over

-250 F.

[sebastiansz]

nice! I didn't know that in our Solar System there are any other planets/moon's that have liquid water etc. I was always thinking that there are but frozen, because they are far away from the sun.

[kufr72]

No liquid water on the surface of anywhere else - always too hot, too cold, not enough air, etc. But at least a couple and probably a bunch of big moons around the gas giants have liquid water under the ice. As to why it doesn't all freeze, at least in Europa's case they think it's due to "tidal flexing"--Jupiter's gravity is so powerful that it pulls harder on the near side than the far, stretching the core as it turns and heating it by friction. At least that's what I understand.

[Methodologyofmadness]

NICE. Very innovative project, looks like NASA still has some groovy ideas.

[barakuda1111]

heh.. i would so much like if they share the real date with the rest of us. Heres for hoping

[homousios]

This is an exciting mission and sure to get some new info and useful at that. I am sure that the Europeans will be anxious to proceed but these Bible crazy Republicans will be sure to gum up the works and so the US most probably wont particcipate

[kufr72]

It's always a good time to thump on Republicans, but it might be worth your while to check up on how funding for NASA has fared under various administrations and congresses.

[homousios]

@kufr72 will do thanks!

[NarutoSSj6]

come on... its actually fun to make the first comment!

[blurglide]

THIS, is an awesome mission! A balloon & a boat!? When does it launch & arrive?

[bshieldsbb01]

Now This is a Space Mission.

May the winds be on their backs.

[AtheistAussie]

Next holiday I know where I'm going!

[PcGamerPaul]

AMAZING.

[jihadpizza]

very very cool

[gir908922]

This is too cool!

[V0r4xiz]

Too bad that the surface temperature of titan is -180°C tho :>

[Minxii1997]

if we know how to make the temperature hotter here on earth, then we can surely make it hotter on titan =)

[shoshanish]

@Minxii1997 no, titan is to different from earth.

on titan, oxygen is explosive because there is alot of methane there, on earth its vice-virsa.

on titan,the lakes and clouds are made of methane, and the rocks are made of ice.

[ilcool90]

@Minxii1997

With all the gas there that is not the best idea.

[chanctonbury63]

@Minxii1997 Sure. Lets build 500 coal fired power ststions on Titan. Lets also get one billion cars up there so they can be driven around interminably, or at least until it gets hotter. Simple.

[Minxii1997]

-.- there are better and more efficient ways to do that ;)

[chanctonbury63]

@Minxii1997 Sure. Lets feed 9 billion people Baked Beans for 3 mths, then send them up there.

[Minxii1997]

get a life. it was a simple suggestion .

[chanctonbury63]

@Minxii1997 You didnt make any suggestion.

[Minxii1997]

@chanctonbury63 yes i did ;) why the f**k are you soooo negative??

[chanctonbury63]

@Minxii1997 No you didnt.

[Minxii1997]

Shut up..I mean it! if you wanna be negative go somewhere else...it's called space exploration not sitting on your ass!

[chanctonbury63]

@Minxii1997 So why not explore space while eating baked beans??

[Minxii1997]

ughhh. whatever i have better things to do than argue with an idiot. bye

[maidenslayer]

@V0r4xiz - Yes but the Satellite may become more Earth like when the sun turns into a red giant in 6 billion years (or whatever it is). The sun will extend much nearer to the Saturn system then.

[isokessu]

@V0r4xiz in north and south poles? Well that doesn't mean that it's like that in every place..

[V0r4xiz]

@isokessu Uhm, no, buddy. Try to read up on it before asking stupid questions. It's the average temperature on Titan.

[radman23]

@V0r4xiz it is said that early earth was at such extreme temperatures as well, maybe titan will develop life later on just like we have!

[V0r4xiz]

@radman23 Not entirely true. During several ice ages Earth indeed was almost this cold. The thing is, Earth is a planet, not a moon. Our atmosphere was capable of containg the inner heat of the planet's core again eventually and absorb heat from the (in comparison) close sun. Titan neither has a core that is hot enough nor has it an athmosphere that could savor its heat, plus it's millions of kilometers further away from the sun than Earth. Sadly :<

[Moontanman]

@V0r4xiz No, the Earth has never even been close to as cold as Titan, titan is indeed thought to have a molten core, if it wasn't in orbit around Saturn it would be a planet in it's own right. Earths heat comes from the sun, if the earth were as far from the sun as titan the temp difference wouldn't matter much at the surface. The snowball earth ice ages were not melted due to the earths core temperature. Greenhouse gasses released by volcanoes allowed the suns heat to melt the ice not the core

[Moontanman]

@radman23 no one says the earth was ever that cold.

[radman23]

@Moontanman when it was first developing it was

[Moontanman]

@radman23 No, actually the Earth was molten rock not cold as ice

[Moontanman]

@radman23 I have never read anything that says that, current theory says the earth was molten from the heat of accretion not cold. Can you send me a link to the information you are talking about ?

[Moontanman]

@radman23 I've never read that anyplace do you have a source for that assertion? The heat of accretion heated the earth, the earth was molten in the beginning not cold.

[Moontanman]

@radman23 No one says the Earth was cold in the beginning, as the earth underwent accretion it heated up, probably til it was molten and the earth was too close to the sun to be even close to that cold do you have anything to back up that assertion?

[Moontanman]

@radman23 Who says the Earth was cold?

[MultiIPwnage]

Steven Hawkins has theorys of using lasers to heat the atmosphere

[snlker]

@V0r4xiz If nasa is correct that it is liquid methane and that temps are this cold? then why is the nitrogen atmophere not liquid as well? Nitrogen would be liquid in these temps. Nasa admits that Saturn and Jupiter radiate heat because of extreme desitiy. I would also think the forces of gravity from Saturn and all the moons and sun would generate internal heat??Maybe 3 sources of heat:the sun, Saturn, and geothermal. I know they wont admit it if there was life.I think NASA lies out there ass!

[Moontanman]

@snlker actually no, nitrogen is not liquid at the temps on Titan.

[killsar935]

@Moontanman werent the lakes methane not nitrogen?

[Moontanman]

@killsar935 Yes, the lakes on Titan are liquid methane and ethane and a few other volatile hydrocarbons.

[grasperkje34]

@V0r4xiz just looking for the right wetsuits and we can surf on titan

[NickBolland]

@V0r4xiz A very modern wetsuit could do the trick.. lol

[V0r4xiz]

@NickBolland And if not, at least it looks sexy ! Provided that a hot chick is in it but that's a given anyway, right ? :>

[TheShadowNemesis]

@V0r4xiz It's all just a matter of the right wetsuit. ;)

[midibenni]

interesting stuff

[1140Cecile]

Thanks for keeping us up to date on this project.

[LAnonHubbard]

What a fascinating project.

[Nightmare060]

I can't wait to find out more about the results of this mission!

[MilitantPeaceist]

How very cool and interesting!

[gordon1201]

There are lakes, on titan?? Amazing!

[princeofexcess]

its not made out of water but yea there is a lake

[shakiin000]

@gordon1201

yes but it is is liquid methane lakes.

water exists in ice form plays big part of volcanic activity of the moon.

[1RadicalOne]

They are full of methane, but yes, lakes.

[akonron]

@gordon1201 Lakes of liquid methane

[MillyVanillification]

@gordon1201 Well, yes, if you consider this kind of "crude oil" to form lakes.