OMFG, I FAIL AT MAKING MAC AND CHEESE, I USED THIS SAUCE AS I BASE, OMGWTFBQQ AMAZING, EVEN MY MOTHER A MAC AND CHEESE ENTHUSIAST HAHA, LOVED IT AND SHE USUALLY DOSENT LIKE MY MAC AND CHEESE, AND SHE SAID IT WAS PERFECT, AND YES IM CAPS RAGING IDC CAUSE THE MAC AND CHEESE WAZ THAT GUD!!!!!11111!!!!!!!!111!!
I first watched this video a while ago. Tonight, I was thickening up some residual liquid from a roast I made. I wanted a nice smooth sauce (don't know if it counts as a roux). As I was preparing it, I heard a voice in my head, much like Obi-Wan Kenobi:
i'm confused when you said let the water evaporate..did you mean that literally because i didn't see you add water..or did you mean the liquid from the butter? thank u!
excellent lesson...for smooth gravy with no lumps..just like my mom taught me..I love watching your videos..I have learned so much! Thank you for making them!
wow, that's actually how I've always made it, cause it's how my mom used to make it! and I always think I might get lumps but I never do, and I've always just considered myself lucky! ha, now there's the explanation for my 'luck' :)
I might try this again someday :) Thanks for the great tutorial!
Just a question though: Is there a difference in the end result or taste if I use a slurry instead? I've always tended to cook a milk + flour slurry down before adding just a touch of butter at the end when it's become thick and creamy... The result was always lump-free, but I've only resorted to that method because I didn't know up till your video what the trick was to lump-free sauces using a roux.
I was wondering if you could do Breaded Zucchini sticks. The large ones, like say quartered lengthwise, with skin on. I love the ones they have at Claim Jumpers.
@WhoaKaela Roux is flour and fat. A white sauce, or bechamel sauce uses butter for the fat. Cajun roux's use oil and butter. You can make it dark or light depending on how long you cook the roux. This white sauce he just made is the basis for many many great sauces, including killer mac n cheese. Just add cheddar cheese or some creative mixture and melt it away. You can use that cheese sauce for mac n cheese, cauliflour, etc.
I always use the wisk with a spiral on it and it never leaves any lumps, it works much better than the balloon whisk or whatever u call it, so the right tool is important.
You said that you were intentionally adding the milk the "incorrect" way, but you were not clear on what the "correct" way is. Should one add it a little at a time in stages, a constant stream, or all at once?
@meaning1 After watching the clip three times, I could not find him saying that drizzling is "the correct way." He said "most books will tell you to --" which to me is an ambiguous designation of which method is "correct."
If you watched it three times, you can't have been paying attention. He says that most recipes will tell you to drizzle the milk in slowly while whisking; but he also states that he is intentionally breaking that rule to prove that the only true requisite to a smooth sauce is the hot roux and cold milk. When he said "most recipes", he was implying that that is typically the correct technique.
i almost always 100% agree with what you are doing, which is quite awesome, as even guys like gordon ramsay or heston blumenthal do some things that i really don't agree with ^^ what school did you go to?
when i make my white sauce i always just use hot milk and it get rid of the clumps and thickens the sauce up quicker. i guess there are always other ways of doing things hahahah
I remember you giving this tip a couple years ago when I moved out of mum's kitchen and had no idea how to boil pasta. But hey, what's a lump-free bechamel without a dash of cayenne!
i've always dumped the milk all at once once the roux was ready... and with the milk i always have heavy cream on hand so when i have 1% or 2% milk i just add a little bit when i wanna go for the richness
I'm kind of a noob when it comes to sauces - does the milk have to be whole, or can it be reduced fat? I drink 2% milk, so it'd be most convenient for me if I don't need to get whole milk specifically for making sauce.
Hot roux, cold milk. I didn't even watch the episode. If there's one thing I'll take from foodwishes till the day I die... hot roux, cold milk, no lumps.
thats how i make my roe i never put all my milk in it at once ...i do it bit by bit to perfect the thickness.
but... cheese sauce for mac and cheese isnt with butter and flour(well atleast i never learned it like that lol) O_o its just eggs and milk(needs alot of insane stirring)... start cold heet it up till it boils to thickness..take it off the fire let it rest for 30-60 seconds and than add your cheese...have fun.
I thought it was lump proof because you coated each of the flour granules with fat when you made the roux. At that point it shouldn't matter what you add or at what temperature, right?
I have done that and had a perfect sauce then I added cheddar and poured it over macaroni . it ended up having a horrible grainy texture . What went wrong ?
@bonzaibb12 the grainy texture is actually the cheddar you put in not the sauce itself. try melting the cheese first then putting it in. it also depends on the size of the cheddar i think. it works better if you grade the cheddar before you add it to the sauce if you put big chunks in it will "dissolve" into tiny grainy chunks.
@Ryuki19n no you got it all wrong... you have to let your hot milk sauce cool a little bit like a minute befor you put in the cheese... if you dont it will get lumpy or grainy ..however u call it : )
@juanster555 But hasn't the quality of all of the videos changed a little bit. It feels like the old FoodWishes videos before he got the camera. Not but, just not great
This is EXACTLY how my father taught me to make sauce!
Atavist89 1 week ago
OMFG, I FAIL AT MAKING MAC AND CHEESE, I USED THIS SAUCE AS I BASE, OMGWTFBQQ AMAZING, EVEN MY MOTHER A MAC AND CHEESE ENTHUSIAST HAHA, LOVED IT AND SHE USUALLY DOSENT LIKE MY MAC AND CHEESE, AND SHE SAID IT WAS PERFECT, AND YES IM CAPS RAGING IDC CAUSE THE MAC AND CHEESE WAZ THAT GUD!!!!!11111!!!!!!!!111!!
true story :3
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kiranrajkeralaboy 1 month ago
I first watched this video a while ago. Tonight, I was thickening up some residual liquid from a roast I made. I wanted a nice smooth sauce (don't know if it counts as a roux). As I was preparing it, I heard a voice in my head, much like Obi-Wan Kenobi:
"Hot roux...cold milk...no lumps."
The sauce turned out great! Thanks for the tip.
MaxwellSDSU 2 months ago
i'm confused when you said let the water evaporate..did you mean that literally because i didn't see you add water..or did you mean the liquid from the butter? thank u!
Mariekr49 6 months ago
@Mariekr49 Liquid from the butter.
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kristincoyn 1 year ago
Jesus Christ!!
sooo smooth!!
CT2507 1 year ago
excellent lesson...for smooth gravy with no lumps..just like my mom taught me..I love watching your videos..I have learned so much! Thank you for making them!
1sunshine89 1 year ago
ME WANT MACNCHEESE!!!
Kerfik 1 year ago
this is awesome!!. bechamel sauce always scared me but I tried doing it this way and I got it from first attempt.
mooneah 1 year ago
omg! I TRIED THIS! WAS AWESOME! got it right on my second attempt. first attempt, was ages ago.... not the chef john way tho... lol! thnx!
skysly 1 year ago
Thanx lumps. Lol.
midnightsurvival 1 year ago
Thanks so much! this was very helpful
shany9988 1 year ago
Wow, what five people disliked this......you five mother- no...I am better than that.
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NO YOU FIVE FAGTASTIC FREAKS CAN GO TO HELL!!!!
mafiaskateryeah 1 year ago 9
Wow Awesome.
wakanu7 1 year ago
Chef John, you are now officially my hero. Off to make some lump-free sauce for my mac & cheese...
haymakernumber4 1 year ago
wow, that's actually how I've always made it, cause it's how my mom used to make it! and I always think I might get lumps but I never do, and I've always just considered myself lucky! ha, now there's the explanation for my 'luck' :)
TheNellieBeast 1 year ago
dinner at your house must be amazing....MAC AND CHEESE!!!!!!
samjones0528 1 year ago
.....I make my sauce - your 'completely wrong' way, all the time.... lol.
Oops.
evilan9el 1 year ago
i discover how to ruin this recipe. either mess up the flour-butter ratio or burn the butter.........both this things happened by mistake.
elarhy 1 year ago
So thats what Grandma does xD
Amberzrulz 1 year ago
Fantastic tutorial!! Thx so very much.
ilikethewok 1 year ago
But... but... but... Julia Child says to heat up the milk till just before its boiling!
Thats a FANTASTIC tip!
ThePinkChilli 1 year ago 2
chef john, would u teach us how to make tuile?
nicholassan 1 year ago
I might try this again someday :) Thanks for the great tutorial!
Just a question though: Is there a difference in the end result or taste if I use a slurry instead? I've always tended to cook a milk + flour slurry down before adding just a touch of butter at the end when it's become thick and creamy... The result was always lump-free, but I've only resorted to that method because I didn't know up till your video what the trick was to lump-free sauces using a roux.
Sammy117 1 year ago
I was wondering if you could do Breaded Zucchini sticks. The large ones, like say quartered lengthwise, with skin on. I love the ones they have at Claim Jumpers.
Benzenering1004 1 year ago
wow !
buddyd007 1 year ago
do you leave the stove on while adding milk ?
xleonnaxgoesxRawRx 1 year ago
I would like to see you do a video of the mac and cheese!
russtex 1 year ago
lol you people really need to stop being lazy... just look up "foodwishes mac and cheese" and you find your damn recipe.
You're welcome, try using your brains next time it works
Simonyboy 1 year ago
John, PLEASE!!! Make Shrimp Stuffed Mushrooms
movieofmenywatch 1 year ago
what is roux
WhoaKaela 1 year ago
@WhoaKaela Roux is flour and fat. A white sauce, or bechamel sauce uses butter for the fat. Cajun roux's use oil and butter. You can make it dark or light depending on how long you cook the roux. This white sauce he just made is the basis for many many great sauces, including killer mac n cheese. Just add cheddar cheese or some creative mixture and melt it away. You can use that cheese sauce for mac n cheese, cauliflour, etc.
herbiesnerd 1 year ago
@herbiesnerd Wow thank you! Sounds good!
WhoaKaela 1 year ago
I always use the wisk with a spiral on it and it never leaves any lumps, it works much better than the balloon whisk or whatever u call it, so the right tool is important.
74Charm 1 year ago
You said that you were intentionally adding the milk the "incorrect" way, but you were not clear on what the "correct" way is. Should one add it a little at a time in stages, a constant stream, or all at once?
Grufian 1 year ago
@Grufian
He explicitly said that the correct way to add the milk is to gradually drizzle the milk into the pan. He splashed cup fulls in all at once.
meaning1 1 year ago
@meaning1 After watching the clip three times, I could not find him saying that drizzling is "the correct way." He said "most books will tell you to --" which to me is an ambiguous designation of which method is "correct."
Grufian 1 year ago
@Grufian
"Most say to drizzle it in while you whisk..."
If you watched it three times, you can't have been paying attention. He says that most recipes will tell you to drizzle the milk in slowly while whisking; but he also states that he is intentionally breaking that rule to prove that the only true requisite to a smooth sauce is the hot roux and cold milk. When he said "most recipes", he was implying that that is typically the correct technique.
meaning1 1 year ago
@meaning1 Even though we disagree about the definition of "saying" vs. "implying," I do appreciate your civilized input.
Grufian 1 year ago
@Grufian
You would be better off posting this at his site. The link is in the video description. He very rarely replies to comments on YouTube.
newguy90 1 year ago
Mac and Cheese recipe now Mr!!!!
coveringfire08 1 year ago
i admire you, you're awesome!!!!
i almost always 100% agree with what you are doing, which is quite awesome, as even guys like gordon ramsay or heston blumenthal do some things that i really don't agree with ^^ what school did you go to?
acmulhern 1 year ago
Ah wonderful! I'm going to be able to make better cheese sauce now as well :D Thank you chef John!
Uberubert99 1 year ago
Wow, alot of new tips. Thanx :'D
sweetlinaa 1 year ago
Good tip chef..... thanks.
penguinistas 1 year ago
when i make my white sauce i always just use hot milk and it get rid of the clumps and thickens the sauce up quicker. i guess there are always other ways of doing things hahahah
kawaiidemon 1 year ago
oh my god John that mac and cheese looks insane! i want to try it xD
garylewis91 1 year ago 32
@garylewis91 He has the mac and cheese recipe, search for it on his youtube account.
NohbdyThere 1 year ago
can you do a recipe for mac n cheese? :)
bobobobobob93 1 year ago
@bobobobobob93: He already has. It's titled "Macaroni and Cheese Recipe - Tom Jefferson's Mac and Cheese." Check it out. =]
sHeLLyBuRGeRs 1 year ago 4
Sounds like a title for a new movie: Attack of the lumpy sauce monster!
InspectorGadget923 1 year ago
hi chef,
when you say "ice cold" - what temperature are you talking? is 5 degrees from fridge ok - or shall i go down to 2 degrees?
AbstractMan23 1 year ago
Great vids and great technique - best to watch on the web. Keep it up John!
Orion6699 1 year ago
Brilliant. Finally - I know how to make sauce! And now do you add some flavour to it? like cheese or something?
McPrfctday 1 year ago
I feel like Steve Carrel after Chef John said, "It doesn't get thicker than that." THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!
dar482 1 year ago
keep the mustache
commonSagitario 1 year ago
aww man! thanks soo much for this tip :]
oOSamuraiOo 1 year ago
@faylinameir he did make a video on it. check it out!
/watch?v=coYqrXsDPdU
ezjay87 1 year ago
Thanks CJ
ARabidPigeon 1 year ago
So simple yet so informative!
tilt1981 1 year ago
I got some white sauce for ya... Sorry couldn't resist making that joke.
livingkoan242 1 year ago
I remember you giving this tip a couple years ago when I moved out of mum's kitchen and had no idea how to boil pasta. But hey, what's a lump-free bechamel without a dash of cayenne!
Twinman2 1 year ago
Hey that's Béchamel sauce!
Voodooray007 1 year ago
Great vid.
oldmangaming 1 year ago
i have always made sauce like that.. always works
whiteedk 1 year ago
i've always dumped the milk all at once once the roux was ready... and with the milk i always have heavy cream on hand so when i have 1% or 2% milk i just add a little bit when i wanna go for the richness
rioishikawa 1 year ago
the mac&cheese looks delicious! lol
rokitgirl 1 year ago
@rokitgirl yeah he needs to show that mac n cheese recipe, please PLEASE chef John!
faylinameir 1 year ago 33
@faylinameir He already has. It looks like his Thomas Jefferson Mac and Cheese recipe. Look for it in his list of videos, or go to the main site.
btdown 1 year ago
@faylinameir he did show how to make it, watch the video
MontthiewOrbano 1 year ago
I'm kind of a noob when it comes to sauces - does the milk have to be whole, or can it be reduced fat? I drink 2% milk, so it'd be most convenient for me if I don't need to get whole milk specifically for making sauce.
sieurdesushi 1 year ago
@sieurdesushi I use 2%. I don't think it matters too much. Only in richness and texture. I tried using cream,1% and 2% and Iiked the 2% the best.
Not too rich but just enough.
JimmyChiffels 1 year ago
@sieurdesushi 2% at the least. 1 and skim just doesn't have the creaminess.
macchef01 1 year ago
Hot roux, cold milk. I didn't even watch the episode. If there's one thing I'll take from foodwishes till the day I die... hot roux, cold milk, no lumps.
powerpc127 1 year ago
Does anyone know the song he's using in his videos?
robertlewis2002 1 year ago
@robertlewis2002 If I'm not mistaken, it's a stock file from iMovie.
KrystalBall11 1 year ago
chef john is the best thank you so much.
tonybeir 1 year ago
hey can u make a video on cheese cake i gotta make one next week
jpx7x 1 year ago
No more punkass lumps in my gravy!
kotk05 1 year ago 2
you should make that mac & cheese next please!
Kriptonite213 1 year ago 2
@Kriptonite213 he already did, browse his uploads.
kotk05 1 year ago
Thank you :)
prettyinpunk666 1 year ago
could you perhaps make a video on how to make said sauce into that delicious looking mac and cheese?
colossusbeam 1 year ago
So we would add hot roux and cold milk to a sauce we want to make to have no lumps?
SunflowerClovers 1 year ago
thats how i make my roe i never put all my milk in it at once ...i do it bit by bit to perfect the thickness.
but... cheese sauce for mac and cheese isnt with butter and flour(well atleast i never learned it like that lol) O_o its just eggs and milk(needs alot of insane stirring)... start cold heet it up till it boils to thickness..take it off the fire let it rest for 30-60 seconds and than add your cheese...have fun.
Vleesball 1 year ago
I thought it was lump proof because you coated each of the flour granules with fat when you made the roux. At that point it shouldn't matter what you add or at what temperature, right?
daledude66 1 year ago
Who the hell have this video a thumbs down? WHY?!
janaswang 1 year ago
@janaswang gave^*
janaswang 1 year ago
@janaswang big deal... you cant please everybody... but the vid is great ^_^
useurcamera 1 year ago
Is there a recipie for that mac and cheese because that looks incredible!
JiGsAwMoFo 1 year ago
@JiGsAwMoFo he has one on his channel
robertlewis2002 1 year ago
Thank you for this video. My bechamel sauce always comes out smooth when i make mac n cheese but my gravys come out horrible! lol
Sksoadpnk 1 year ago
I have done that and had a perfect sauce then I added cheddar and poured it over macaroni . it ended up having a horrible grainy texture . What went wrong ?
bonzaibb12 1 year ago
@bonzaibb12 the grainy texture is actually the cheddar you put in not the sauce itself. try melting the cheese first then putting it in. it also depends on the size of the cheddar i think. it works better if you grade the cheddar before you add it to the sauce if you put big chunks in it will "dissolve" into tiny grainy chunks.
Ryuki19n 1 year ago
@Ryuki19n no you got it all wrong... you have to let your hot milk sauce cool a little bit like a minute befor you put in the cheese... if you dont it will get lumpy or grainy ..however u call it : )
Vleesball 1 year ago
@Ryuki19n Thanks a bunch. I will try that. I was using larger chunks of cheddar and putting them directly into the hot sauce.
bonzaibb12 1 year ago
That's the way my mom taught me to make sauce! :)
BlueCoffeeDK 1 year ago
even the mac and cheese looks better than anything else!
sparklytoes28 1 year ago
And as alwaysss, enjoy!
RealKengeki 1 year ago
I'm hungry...
ChoChoquota 1 year ago 2
i struggle with gravy and all things roux related...what temperature is this, medium? thanks for a great video!
odedaj 1 year ago
@odedaj yes use medium heat. and keep adjusting it lower and lower as you cook. all while constantly stirring.
robertlewis2002 1 year ago
bechamel.
diaverde09 1 year ago
awesome!!!
tammyholmes 1 year ago
I been doing right all this time since my grandma showed me... woohoo :)
dimpleza 1 year ago
I thought for a moment he was going to say, Cook the roux until it smells like poo.
staggert 1 year ago 24
@staggert Hot roux, hot poo.
iNfx1 1 year ago
.....
pubtor 1 year ago
@staggert
he doesn't work for McJunkFood, you know.
prilstrudel 1 year ago
lol
jomom6969 1 year ago
@staggert LMAO me too
fezan84 1 year ago
@staggert haha superb.
rainbowgorilla 1 year ago
No lumps. Woo HOO!
daedalx 1 year ago
dude what do u look like? u were talking about the stach. so i was wondering
monkeyrahha 1 year ago
@monkeyrahha Like this.
watch?v=iQb5iEEfeB4
CptCool2 1 year ago
@monkeyrahha go to his website
koztowz 1 year ago
@monkeyrahha u can see him at the welcome video (if im not mistaking...=S)
blackmind981 1 year ago
cool, ... i never cook this stuff but it's interesting to watch! :]
juanster555 1 year ago 11
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Skandar0007 1 year ago
This video will look great once it's in HD. I'll have to watch it again ;P
IxAmxBrian 1 year ago
what happened to the HD camera?
saxonde68 1 year ago
@saxonde68 you watched it too early whiule it was processing, making the quality bad :)
juanster555 1 year ago
@juanster555 But hasn't the quality of all of the videos changed a little bit. It feels like the old FoodWishes videos before he got the camera. Not but, just not great
saxonde68 1 year ago
LOL . Very smart :)
Haha ;
lilaznxxbabe 1 year ago
keep the mustache!
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EvilEyelashes 1 year ago
thanks chef
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JimmyChiffels 1 year ago
nobody really cares XD
iHaveOneArm 1 year ago