Honda Civic Type-R - last 8 minutes of K20Z4 with Rotrex C30-94

[Zuglos]

do you have a toda or EP3 oil pump? I have a friend with toda oil pump and he has the same problem. the oil inside its not leakproof as the OEM oil pump

[qrs13]

@Zuglos No, I have OEM FN2 oil pump.

[Fskylos]

Do you know the reason for the engine breakdiwn now?

[qrs13]

@Fskylos Two most probable reasons are:

1) oil starvation issue

2) too big pressure in the cylinder

But none of them is confirmed to be THE root cause. New engine is almost ready, so will see how will behave this one. It's beeing build with baffled sump and we will lower also a little bit air pressure.

[One21P]

Honda should hire you to test their type-r cars. If it in the honda's type-r category then it should handle track use.

[qrs13]

@One21P This is not stock car, I have installed Rotrex supercharge. I had no issue with stock car on the track at all.

[sasajungic89]

It may have something to do with 6,20 sec just before you got overtaken by M3. It sounds like you shifted over rev limiter. I have same car the fn2 and its done 113.000 hope I don't get this problem. I'm planing to visit Nordschleife in the summer. Its really sad to see this

[qrs13]

@sasajungic89 Shifting down from about 7,500 rpm goes up to about 8.500 which is slightly bellow my limiter which is set up for 8.600 rpms. Could be related, but hard to tell. Two most probable reasons are:

1) oil starvation issue

2) too big pressure in the cylinder

I'm going there as well again, most probably beginning of May and then in August/September timeframe. Good luck and maybe see you there.

[sasajungic89]

@qrs13 I'm thinking about travel there may to, so maybe.. Do you have a new engine in it?

oil starvation is a common problem in these high revving engines.. Same with 2zzge from corolla and celica t sport!!

[qrs13]

@sasajungic89 Engine is not yet in, I'm waiting for baffled sump to arrive, but everytning else is done and prepared for new season.

[rogo2484]

looked a quick lap up until here aswell.. :( sad moment, im planning to go there this year in my s3, hope all goes well

[oliviergx]

sad...

[IxXZODXxI]

Casual get out, No cursing, like a boss.

[haxx8]

K20 RIP

[Russki46]

Hm, i'm getting worried after seeing this clip, I go there too with my EP3. Same engines... Should you find the reason, let me know ;-)

[qrs13]

@Russki46 I'll share root cause as soon as I'll get it. Current theory is lubrication issue due no baffled sump installed and G forces on the circuit, but I shall know more next week when they will look into the engine.

[rsamd]

@Russki46 k20z4 has weaker rods than k20a. 

[SinanBMW]

its normaly that is a japanese automobil :o)

[rsamd]

do u have an oilcooler? oiltemp gauge?

[qrs13]

@rsamd No oilcooler, no gauge. But doesn't seems to be related to oil temperature.

[rsamd]

@qrs13 do u had any form of cooling the intake charge like fmic or water inj.?

[qrs13]

@rsamd I have on the car TTS Performance SuperSport kit with FMIC, no water/meth.

[SuNsH4DoW]

but what happened? rotrex failure?! :( k20 failure? :(

[qrs13]

@SuNsH4DoW connection rod leaved the engine, most probably related to lubrication, but hard to tell what exactly failed.

[SuNsH4DoW]

how you can? stock internals?

[qrs13]

@SuNsH4DoW Yes, stock internals and no baffled sump.

[eatthisvr6]

i dont mean to be a bastard here but what condition is the charger in? im in need of a c30-94 for my golf (and an intercooler) did anything end up in the intake?

[qrs13]

@eatthisvr6 Rotrex is most probably fine, no visual damage. But I'll continue with this setup, so no spare parts available...

[eatthisvr6]

@eatthisvr6 hope you get it sorted mate :)

[LK7R]

:-( R.I.P.

[djmegaman237]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!­!!!! gutted!!!

[kilcaq]

:'( K20 done.. how terrible... i hope that grim reaper doesn't come for my engine too...

[Zuglos]

sad :(

[sijpkesm]

I was there, I saw it happen. Saw you also on saturday, nice driving. Good luck with the aftermath!

[qrs13]

@sijpkesm Thanks, I'm still trying to improve my skills. See you next spring.