And, religious people don't immediately disregard, ignore, or dislike science. Not in anyway, and people will not reject the things science has given, and yet a lot of the time he takes the attitude that every religious person has a vendetta against science and won't acknowledge what it has done. Also, not all inventions can be attributed to science. Would you classify a toilet as a scientific invention, or something that someone just put together to do a job?
@urantivirus Well he doesn't bu he does spend about a minute banging on about how science has contributed to inventions and advances that have helped us.
@urantivirus He does not. But as an aside, inventions exist because of technological advancement. And technological advancement generally has a scientific base (especially since modern science, but even in ancient times, primitive science lead to technological advancement. It just was not called science then, it was closer to natural philosophy)
@JDiddly3 Um actually a toilet works based on the laws of physics. A toilet uses atmospheric pressure and siphonage to remove the water from the bowl and whatever waste is inside of it.
Whoever made the toilet was actually very smart. And yes, a toilet is a scientific invention.
@JDiddly3 1) Dawkins never says all inventions are attributed to science.
2) I would argue that they all are . the toilet, in your example, and tons of scientific properties that make it work. Plumbing, would not be possible, without an understanding of physics.
Im not trying to start anything, just giving my two cents.
@TheOriginalNathanOSU Yeah that last bit was a bit stupid in retrospect. But the rest of it I stick by and is actually he more important point. And whilst he doesn't directly say all inventions are attributed to science, it is implied, with him repeatedly mention how scientific discoveries and creations have mad everything better. Which I would argue with anyway, but that isn't the point.
@JDiddly3 The toilet is both since it relies on basic scientific principles to function as well as science to create the materials that were used in its construction.
@rickysims212 Yes....I fucking know! I said it was a stupid example looking back alright....I fucking know! You don't have to keep saying, I'm bloody sick of it. I KNOW!!
@JDiddly3 Look what you did! You made me feel bad now. I apologize. I have to admit for someone to admit even the slighest thing they did wrong is admirable.
And there is contradiction here, he says 'have given us the ability to educate ourselves, express creativity, and ponder existence', whereas his message here, and always has been that evolution is fact and everything in science is fact and anything else is wrong and superstitious. How can we ponder it if you are telling us? How can you have a go at someone for claiming to have all the answers when you are saying you have all the answers?
I don't think it should be titled like this at all. I mean 'slaves'? Nowadays you'll find that the vast majority of people on the Earth and I would think about 90-95% of people, chose their religious or superstitious beliefs, it is very rare that is is forced on people. 'Slave' suggests the inability to free themselves, and emotional and physical pain. Religious and superstitious people are so because usually they chose to be, and are happy with that decision. And why not leave them to it?
@JDiddly3 "I would think about 90-95% of people, chose their religious or superstitious beliefs"
No most people are given their beliefs at birth. There are plenty of countries where their religion is forced on them, leaving their religion can lead to a death penalty.
"...everything in science is fact and anything else is wrong and superstitious"
Science is where the evidence leads us.
"And, religious people don't immediately disregard, ignore, or dislike science. "
@urantivirus Well no you're wrong. I know many people who grew up religious and aren't anymore, and my paretns have multiple friends who grew up atheists and converted. And when you say plenty of countries, I assume the only countries you're talking about, because these are the only countires where conversion is strongly discouraged and/or illegal, are middle-eastern countries. This isn't the case in most countries on Earth you will find.
@JDiddly3 And you're completely wrong on the third point as well, and it is very ignorant of anyone to say something like that. The vast majority embrace science and the great things it has accomplished, and they live with them all the time. You may have already made the retarded assumption that religious people are stupid, but they absolutely are not, they understand science and believe it, just not all parts, and considering a broad a subject science is, isn't saying a whole lot.
@JDiddly3 I'm not sure you could say vast majority when considering the whole world, no matter how small your perspective world. I congratulate the religious people who accept science and I have all the more to agree with them. But I also think they are taking away most of the meaning from their religion in most cases. If Genesis isn't literal then there is no original sin.
@urantivirus And what does the second point even mean? I didn't mention evidence of any type. I'm repeated the context of what he was saying, where did you get the word 'evidence' from? I don't even think that, that was kind of the point. And I'm not disputing the factual attributes of science, so what was your point exactly?
@JDiddly3 You: "And what does the second point even mean?"
You: "And there is contradiction here, he says 'have given us the ability to educate ourselves, express creativity, and ponder existence', whereas his message here, and always has been that evolution is fact and everything in science is fact and anything else is wrong and superstitious."
It's regarded as superstitious for a reason. That's because people believe it regardless of the evidence. Would you prefer the word delusion?
@FreeThinker148 Yes, and they would have to be very, very easily pleased and people who are a considerable distance up their own arses who think they are awfully superior, and feel the need to laugh hysterically at someone's mistake which has little relevance to anything in the universe. They too would probably get great kicks out of toilet and slapstick humor if it takes that much for them to laugh that hard.
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i dont like the way he seems to completely go against these superstitions. People believe what they want. They should be able to do so without being critisized
did you know children are natural creationists? because they are too dumb to comprehend things existing without reason. if you don't successfully develop your mental capacities to use reason you become religious. they're a bunch of kids... they believe what they're told, they can't use reason, they get emotional when you disagree, and they love a good fairy tale
it is really superstitious to believe that the sun and the stars would have an effect on human behaviour? sure, it has an effect on the earth, like the moon and the sun. and not to forget the planetary orbits. but even the possibility that there would be any effect on humans is of course out of the question. they live on this planet but are only subjected to the gravity... and gravity doesn´t exist of course because i can´t see it (to step into dawkins´arguing)
@fongster62 "it is really superstitious to believe that the sun and the stars would have an effect on human behaviour?"
Not only is it superstitious, it's delusional.
"and gravity doesn´t exist of course because i can´t see it"
Wow. No, be we can test/calculate it's affect on us. You act like astrology is a cutting edge idea that has yet to be tested. I think you need to see James Randi in action, then you can move up to Dawkins.
@urantivirus i reacted to the video´s because dawkins reminded me more of a lecturing schoolmaster. but then again this was in accordance with the set-up of the program. actually, to come to think of it, after seeing some footage the tabloid title started to annoy me. and indeed i shouldn´t have taken the whole matter seriously, at all. dawkins seemed to have a good time exposing people. so.... who am i to cast a shadow in these enlightning programmes.
Yes, it is superstitious and delusional. Can you please explain the mechanisms by which other planets and stars effect humans? If you say gravity...uh....fact is the gravity of your mother at the time of your birth was far greater than the gravity of Jupiter or the Sun at that distance. Inverse square law, look it up. If you'd like, I'll do the calculations for you but I'd need to know the mass of you when you were born and the mass of your mother at the time of your birth.
@SanRafaelSwell in my last comment it was already clear that i didn´t need to spend more time on the topic... and if you really want to know things go find it out for yourself or spend your time more reasonable...
@SanRafaelSwell ...well, i will point out something that makes more sense (i believe). and then drop the discussion. you started a discussion with already dismissing the idea. and then you want me to prove something that you don´t believe in the first place. seems un-reasonable to me... i just don´t have any part in your equation
Already dismissing the idea? So when someone tells me an I idea I should just accept it? HAHAHA. No thank you, I have a critical mind and I'm proud of it. In order for anyone to believe anything they should be convinced first. You are essentially asking me to accept astrology on faith? Faith is bullshit, it is childish and boarders on psychosis. I want you to support your claims, that is what honest people do. How is that unreasonable?
@SanRafaelSwell i believe a scientific mind questions everything. like copernicus and keppler questioned their systems at the time. i didn´t force you to accept anything, and i don´t want you to believe anything. i m more interested in an open mind. i challenged your reasoning. but instead of giving that a thought it only seems to get you upset and that comes across pretty unreasonable.
Haven't gotten upset at all. All you are doing is avoiding the topic at hand (is astrology real). You haven't answered my original question to you. Asking someone to support their position isn't unreasonable, it is demanded by logic and reason. I suggest you deal with it.
@fongster62 The word "see" in that sense, is used more that just in visual aid. Sure, we cannot see gravity, but there is proof via testing that it is their.
even his demanding the answer about how astrology works is proposterous. in modern science a lot of things are not being explained, but scientist still work with it and trying to find out how it works. so if he wants to know the answer he should research it for himself like any true scientific mind would reason (galileo, keppler, copernicus, da vinci etc).
he talks about the "age of enlightment" not even mentioning that it were the muslim (-invasions) during the 13th or 14th (or earlier) who provided all the knowledge that was lost to the europeans (greek filosofie and science etc).
richard dawkins acts as a scientist but reasons in a very bias manner. by already referring to the different topics as being backwards and superstitious from the start. whether he would be wrong or right is not the case it is the way he approaches the whole matter.
@fongster62 "richard dawkins acts as a scientist but reasons in a very bias manner."
How should he have used his scientific background with this documentary? I don't think the point of this documentary was to prove this stuff wrong. Just about everyone watching it knows all this stuff is BS. It's all be proved wrong by many other people. Dawkins is only pointing out these ridiculous ideas.
"in modern science a lot of things are not being explained"
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the statement of dawkins is doubtfull since he never learn all these new age things. he never get a training with open eyes. how could he know that these new age things are superstition and not science?
can a non medical person give opinion in medical matters ?
dawkins have no formal training in these new age things. how he come to the conclusion that these are superstition?
@freedomofthought100 You're right in the sense that he doesn't do much debunking in this video, but it's not really the point. The subjects he's covering have all be debunked by many people already. He's not trying to prove that they are BS, that's already been done by people like James Randi, Penn & Teller and many more. Science fits none of the definitions of religion, so there's no chance of it being a religion. I'm not saying there can't be religions based on science,just not science itself.
look the scientists who "debunked" these things never studied or practice these "superstion" dilligently. all they did is to conduct tests that shows failure of these things. this does not mean that these things are bs.
if a non-medical person try to do medical treatment and failed, will that mean medical science is a bs ?
dawkins should first ardently study these bs, then will he be know the truth.
@freedomofthought100 What exactly do you want Dawkins to do? Are you familiar with the works of James Randi? None of these people can provide proof that any of it works. We're not looking at Dawkins as the professional of this subject, I don't understand how this confuses you. We use science to test the world around us. That's why we use medical science to test medical treatments as you mentioned. That's also why we use medical science to test things like homeopathy.
@urantivirus Yes you speak of using science,and what it is or is not.I would like to know exactly " WHAT ARE YOUR CREDENTIALS IN THE FIELD OF SCIENCE?" any or NONE,..? YOUR ANSWER IS :................
@oOADROo Quote: "In science labs it's all about ''Let's see what happens'' like little children giving a firework to a dog just to see what happens."
That answer just shows how little you know about how science works.
But I notice that you have still avoided my question regarding if you having such high moral ethics that you would rather die than demonstrate your total hypocracy by using any medicine developed using animal testing, but your silence on that subject says volumes.
To every 'overzealous bible thumper' (lets face it Buddists aren't doing this) and every other 'pro-scientific and screw everyone else idea,' STFU. Common bias has led you to believe whatever you are going to believe. No matter how good an argument is made for one side or the other people are always going to disagree with it, simply because of their prejuduces'. Watch this video as a potential source of knowledge, gain from it whatever you can, rationally apply it, and move on.
@lotmein20 Science is evolution??? You know what you just said??
I don't know if i should laugh or cry.
Evolution is Charles Darwin theories which those so called modern scientist (atheist) try to make it into a religion, claiming that theory's are fact and man was a ignorant species that evolved overtime. Man was never an animal or came from animal spunk, when you say man evolved from monkeys and apes i take that as a insult.
@oOADROo He didn't say "science is evolution" you illiterate, he said "Evolution is Science". Which means that it is part of science, not that it is all of science.
No scientist claims that a theory is a fact, a theory is only the best explaination of observable phenomena but theories will also make predictions which are born out.
Evolution is a FACT, the Theory of Evolution is a description of the process of evolution.
You evolved from an ape, be insulted, it doesn't change the fact.
@Palocles ''Evolution is science'' ''Science is evolution'' there is no difference. Let me tell you this my honorable friend!! There isn't any fossil records showing half man and monkey, man never came from monkey spunk all this is based on Charles Darwin theory's which modern so called scientists like
Jerry Coyne and Richard Dawkins trying to make it into a religion
@oOADROo I've just skimmed through some of your other comments on here and you are obviously either incredibly stupid or incredible poorly educated. You really should find out a bit more about the things you are so hostile to because it's obvious you know nothing about them. There are a lot of good books you could try, maybe your mum can get them from the library for you.
BTW, noone is making science, evolution or athiesm into a religion, it is only people like you who make that claim.
@Palocles Look dude!! if you want to insult yourself by believing you came from monkey spunk that's totally up to you but you're not going to insult me or down grade me to an animal.
This evolution and monkey spunk is nothing but a 150 year old fairytale.
So absurdity without any tangible truth is okay, so long as it is thousands of years old and handed down by people that heard voices in their heads? And naturally provable hard science generated by people trained in critical thinking is rubbish? Amazing.
@pop9095 Here is a trained critical thinker acknowledging about a man that heard voices in his head some thousands of years ago which were made fact duo to modern science
@oOADROo It's not an insult to have evolved from another form of life, it's a natural mechanism of life over millions of years. Maybe you don't realise that humans as we are now have been essentially the same in appearance for about 250,ooo years? That means you have to go back more than 10,ooo generations before your ancestors would look much different from you. You would have to go back hundreds of thousands of generations before our ancestors were ape like.
@oOADROo Are you really so threatened by the fact that MILLIONS of years ago your ancestor was a type of ape? Have you got no confidence in your own self that you are superior to these creatures after hundreds of thousands of generations of change?
It's really not as bad as you seem to think it is.
@oOADROo You have a bit of temporal disassociation going on, animals currently being used in testing (which is what your link is for, i guess) are not our ancestors, they are another concurrently existing species with a common ancestor.
Sure, it's a shame that animal testing happens and it would be wonderful if it didn't have to but there would be a much bigger furor over testing prototype drugs on humans, even if they were condemned criminals. Would you give up insulin if you were diabetic?
@Palocles Gorillas, orangutan, chimpanzees and so on.. They all have been tortured in science labs.
'' Would you give up insulin if you were diabetic?''
What has that got to do with putting electric brain implants into the head of a monkey? Animals were never meant for testing. You claim that man lived for millions of years how did man survived over those years without torturing a animal? I know what your going to say '' Through Natural Selection'' lol which is nothing but a bullshit word.
@oOADROo You don't use your brain very much, do you?
Animals aren't tortured for the sake of inflicting pain. When a drug (like insulin) or device (like a pace maker) for human use is developed it has to be proven to be safe for human use. We test the safety of these items on animals because they are considered less important than humans. Sad but true. Or would you rather test a monkey pace maker on a human subject?
@lotmein20 Only 3 bad things? lol I like that comment :D there's nothing wrong in defending your religion anyways let's get back to reality, Science has been hijacked and turned in to a religion by Atheist claiming science for themselves not knowing that science is only mans research. People from different faiths and backgrounds have contributed so my friend when you talk about science your actually talking about mans research not Darwinism .
Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given 2 the profane masses is another useful idiot 4 Jesuit machinations
Jesuitical; pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuit Order completely altered the education system 2 suit their Evo-Hoax Agenda to discredit the Bible
Papal Rome cant have their Counter Reformation 2nd Dark Age DESPOTISM until Bible is destroyed
Despite the grammar, he's more or less on the money. Natural selection, ideal environments, and genetic mutations would really cover almost all (if not all) of the necessary points that need to be covered. If you want to get into the question of the "Prime Mover" you're making the claim that everything that starts needs something to start it: The equal question applies, if you believe god started it, who/what started God?
No one made evoltion possibale its natural seltion? Theres no such thing as ur god. Or any other god for that matter ur a joke. educate ur self with philoishpy and sceinces. The day u do is the day u will see reason.
@hewittzhong The only thing Buddhism lacks as far as a religion is a deity. But they do have rituals, prayer and believe in reincarnation. And his view on Steve Jobs is that he is dead.
@RandallWard1111 I think you better look up the words science, religion and god. Because they don't go together. In no way does your comment make sense. Are you a theistic agnostic? Or an atheistic agnostic?
@oOADROo Take your baseless and ignorant opinions else where. I suggest you get an education. Would you like me to test your ignorance? I bet I can prove, quite easily, that you know nothing about the theory you so reject. Your opinion is 100% based on a lie you've been told your whole life.
First of all it's "he's an", ape doesn't need to be capitalized and you don't correct your self in a comment, you hit back space. Get your shit together before making such an ignorant comment.
@oOADROo Take your baseless and ignorant opinions else where. I suggest you get an education. Would you like me to test your ignorance? I bet I can prove, quite easily, that you know nothing about the theory you so reject. Your opinion is 100% based on a lie you've been told your whole life.
First of all it's "he's an", ape doesn't need to be capitalized and you don't correct your self in a comment, you hit back space. Get your shit together before making such an ignorant comment.
@urantivirus A man that calls himself an African Ape is delusional, and if you want to believe in Monkey Magic be my guest... but you're not convincing me or any God fearing people with your Planet of the Apes bullcrap fairytales.
@oOADROo I see you don't want to accept my challenge. You want to remain ignorant of evolution because your faith isn't as strong as you would like us to believe. If it was strong, you wouldn't be afraid to learn about evolution. Also, are you thumbing up your own comments with sock puppet accounts? lol
@urantivirus First off ..You didn't challenge me, second!! the theory that man came from monkey spunk is insulting, and last of all..I don't want to know about the changes of species, why would i want to learn about that? It's not that important than ''WTF we doing here? ''
so I'm not going to waste my time believing something which isn't going to benefit me.
All I can say is science has been hijacked and turned into a fucking religion
@oOADROo "Would you like me to test your ignorance? I bet I can prove, quite easily, that you know nothing about the theory you so reject."
That was the challenge. You ignored it completely. You can remain as ignorant as you want, just don't claim something is false when you know nothing about it. The only thing you can say that is correct is "I don't really know anything about evolution but I keep my faith in the bible".
Test my Ignorance?? What are you talking about? if you want to test me about theory's well i have a theory of my own. Some 8760 days ago the iPhone 4G ancestors the CT -100 Radio Shack portable cellular phone evolved to the iPhone 4G, we have evidence of this because of the similarities and DNA evidence, also we have fossils meaning documentation to proved it happen (Even though some scientist disagrees.)
@urantivirus Thanks for agreeing with my theory, If i told that to a psychiatrist ill probably end up eating hospital food for the rest of my life XD
Now we got that out the way i want to ask you a simple question..
If evolution did really happened who made everything possible? or shall i say who was the backbone of all this? If you have any questions about the bible will be happy to answer you.
@oOADROo I said you proved my point, I never said I agree with you. As for bible questions. No, but thank you. I'm not ignorant like you. I know about the theory of evolution and I'm quite familiar with the bible, seeing as how I used to be a Christian.
@russellrummage Hello Mr Russell... Many claim that we don't need religion because science has the answers, now I'm asking a simple question... What was the thing that made evolution possible? or even better.. How did everything came about? i asked this question to many Atheist they seem to run away maybe you have an good explanation on how things came about.
@oOADROo I don't think science has THE answers, just that it is the only real tool we have to investigate how reality actually is. But it's a journey that we're at the beginning of, people expect too much out of it. So I don't have the answer to your question, but because you have an answer doesn't mean it's the real one, especially as you have zero evidence for it. Watch 'Richard Feynman on God' if you want to know my exact opinion.
@russellrummage Mans research (science) with honesty and respect is good science.
I watched that clip, there is a lot of truth in what he said but there is problem, he denies God based on Christianity. People need to be a bit more rational and investigate other god believes before making any judgments because not all god believe are the same.
@russellrummage You said that i have zero evidence. You my friend! You are proof of God existence because if you're in danger and there isn't anyone to help you who do you call? Ghostbusters ? No! you call on the creator God, which you know has the power to save you so why do you deny your creator which gave you everything?
@urantivirus All this talk about '' We don't need religion science has the answers!! '' is a load of nonsense! You can't give me a simple scientific answer to how things came about never mind the Ape theory. I believe in evolution based on the Quranic version, it makes a lot more sense than the scientific Ape theory. God has told us that he changed human features including brainpower over time to suit the environment, God also explains his creation in great details with scientific fact.
@oOADROo Why can't you believe that God used evolution to shape humans into what they are today? Because us evolving from apes is a fact. In fact, we are still apes. We've been classified as apes before Darwin was even alive. I really don't know what you mean by how things came about. You've asked that question differently every time. Are you asking how the process of evolution started? Are you asking where life or the universe came from? Because those last don't involve evolution.
@urantivirus I don't reject science nor i agree with it, the same with the Bible and the Quran, they all have some truth in it and also have things which makes you want to scratch your head. I've looked at the theory of evolution and watched many documentaries and read about it, to me it's only 1 piece of the puzzle, it isn't fully completed it has a long way to go but will keep an open mind as long as I live but for now I'm sticking with the Quranic version of creation
@oOADROo I hope you do have an open mind and I hope you keep looking at all the evidence as well. I will do the same with science and both the bible and quran included.
@urantivirus i am an opened minded person, i respect everybody's believes and ways of life except for those like Richard Dawkins who uses mans research (science) and claim it for himself when everybody knows that people from other faiths and cultures and background have contributed. Science isn't an atheist thing or a religion its only knowledge and this knowledge is for everyone and should not be turned into a religion
@oOADROo "Richard Dawkins who uses mans research (science) and claim it for himself"
I don't think you know Richard Dawkins too well. He never claims atheists are the only people who contribute to science and he never claims that you have to be an atheist to accept science. At no point does he say science is only for atheists. You don't respect other peoples beliefs or non-beliefs. You judge people without really knowing anything about them.
@oOADROo You are not open minded. You only look for the evidence that fits your religion.
Look at it this way. I don't care if a god exists or not. If someone or god showed me proof of his or her existence I would believe. I might not worship, but I would believe. Let me ask you this. Would you care if god doesn't exist?
Oh, you never answered my other question...
"Also, are you thumbing up your own comments with sock puppet accounts? lol"
This process took place through Natural Selection meaning the survival of the fittest and reproducing. This theory is FACT!!! Because theory's means Fact. Fact and theory's have the same meaning.
@InstinctYOU I rather believe in Santa claus and the Easter Bunny at least you get presents and a nice juicy chocolate bunny :D What do you get for believing in Monkey Spunk? Nothing!!
BTW you have no evidence.... Show me half man and half monkey?
@ddrddrddrddr You can't answer a simple question, i know your ashamed to admit that your religion teaches that man came from monkey spunk XD to be all honest i don't want to know, It's sad to see man insult his own intelligents.
@oOADROo Anyone who puts up a strawman of Evolution into something as ludicrous and simplistic as man evolving from monkey insults his own intelligence. 10/10 though, I enjoy trolls.
@oOADROo Well at least he has good reason to believe that human and apes have the same ancestors, while you have no reason to believe in your fairy tales. But hey science makes no difference; your computer works for you too. I think this a little bit unfair and religious ignorant folks like you shouldn't be allowed to use a computer or television or telephones. Go develope something with your force by god.
@jomushin7 All those extract radiation. Science has built Weapons of mass destruction, electronic brain implants, Bio chips to control the human species, your so called ancestors are tortured in science labs as we speak, Your logic sucks dude!!.
My opinion is that science is the most important facet of human existence, our path forward... but it's a tool. And indeed, a tool in unethical or cruel hands is dangerous.
Science always needs oversight and ethical considerations.
@oOADROo Science has built computers, cars, electricity, amazing medicine. Yes there have been some bad things invented but the pros FAR out weigh the cons. Millions of more lives have been saved than lost because of science. Every day you worship science by simply using a piece of technology.
@Headifen Computers, cars, electricity, medicine none of those are made by science actually nothing is..... Most are made by China , Korea, Thailand and Singapore.
i have looked at the back of all my products and none say ''Made By Science'' it's all made by different people from around the world. Science never made jack shit!!!
@oOADROo lol, you would have to be a massive troll
you cannot be so retarded you actually think science is not implemented in the design and function of a car, electricity as a source of energy, why medicines works
if you truly belive this then you by definition is a waste of human resources and should just poof disappear :p
@bardiche1989 Science is nothing but mans knowledge and research so it was man!! that made cars, electricity not Science... Science was used the same way as Mathematics where used and worldly materials but to say Science did everything then you're nothing but an ignorant African ape.
Never went to school", confirmation for "either troll or retard" lol
eitherway as to your question, how is saying it was man not science any relevant when man utilised science. Its not like if we would have cars, electricty, etc, etc if man had NOT used science lol. Try to cure small pox with the bible, try to eradicate cholera with it, try to go on youtube through the bible see how far you get.
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@RandallWard1111 that is nonsense. we are liberal societies. no one gives a fuck what you do in private and never will. but if you want to be taken seriously in the public domain you'll have to actually have evidence to back your claims with.
he should focus more on Islam, that's the most powerful and threatening religion today... kicking dead horses like protestantism makes less sense and is a waste of time, I think.
@Dadutta yeah, but the new age nonsense is the major disease of the western societies. all my friends are atheists, but a lot of them believe in astrology, angels, healing, mediums, and so on.
@Dadutta ok, Islam is the most threatening, but the wasps, the tea party and the way bush brought church and state back together are products of protestantism.
@beheerowner but if it is being focused on in such a way as to detract focus from the far more dangerous and influential religion called Islam, then its an unpragmatic waste of time.
@RandallWard1111 "Anything not "rational" is heretical." sure, but atheists generally don't stone, kill, exile, burn, sacrifice, or mutilate those which we don't agree with. Instead we write books and give speeches.
Bad news man is made in the image of God,the Bible is the word of God more bad news unless you change ,its appointed unto each of us once to die then the judgment and NDEs are not lack of oxygen when we die would you care to explore that some more ,look up the story of ex atheist Howard Storm and Mickey Robinson here on you tube ,its you soul and a lot is at stake after all,people are begging now to get out of Hell but you foolishly rush in!
Religionists love to ask that question: "then how did it all start?" (as if they know and everyone else is stupid for not taking their word for it) Because ANY answer is better than no answer, right? And when in the end, they're speculating as well because they can't know the things they claim either. The point is try and find out the answers using intelligent, mature means rather than blindly resorting to old tomes and deities to fill every hole. Even common sense would be a better option.
Now think about God ,He had the ability to create the universe and within that universe is an astounding number of things that are powerful within themselves such as the star that dwarfs the sun and all living breathing life upon the earth,complexity within one cell and an infinite universe,no wonder God doesn't show Himself we would all be consumed by His power!
"Reckless Medicine" an article in the Discover Magazine, google it and see how science in the pursuit of money is killing hundreds of thousands of people,then will you still trust science and not look into things more wisely,the Bible says wisdom is more valuable than Rubies!
I want this video on my M-4580n unit.
donnietodd89 1 week ago
2012.nuff said.
buzzy0016 2 weeks ago
And, religious people don't immediately disregard, ignore, or dislike science. Not in anyway, and people will not reject the things science has given, and yet a lot of the time he takes the attitude that every religious person has a vendetta against science and won't acknowledge what it has done. Also, not all inventions can be attributed to science. Would you classify a toilet as a scientific invention, or something that someone just put together to do a job?
JDiddly3 2 weeks ago
@JDiddly3 "Also, not all inventions can be attributed to science."
I must have missed the part where Dawkins attributes all inventions to science. Mind linking me the time he says that?
urantivirus 2 weeks ago
@urantivirus Well he doesn't bu he does spend about a minute banging on about how science has contributed to inventions and advances that have helped us.
JDiddly3 2 weeks ago
@urantivirus He does not. But as an aside, inventions exist because of technological advancement. And technological advancement generally has a scientific base (especially since modern science, but even in ancient times, primitive science lead to technological advancement. It just was not called science then, it was closer to natural philosophy)
ImBackAJ20101 2 weeks ago
@ImBackAJ20101 What is 'natural philosophy'?
JDiddly3 2 weeks ago
@JDiddly3 It is what preceded modern science. Newton was a natural philosopher, for example.
ImBackAJ20101 2 weeks ago
@JDiddly3 Um actually a toilet works based on the laws of physics. A toilet uses atmospheric pressure and siphonage to remove the water from the bowl and whatever waste is inside of it.
Whoever made the toilet was actually very smart. And yes, a toilet is a scientific invention.
aPpLeJuIcE37RainLucy 2 weeks ago
@JDiddly3 1) Dawkins never says all inventions are attributed to science.
2) I would argue that they all are . the toilet, in your example, and tons of scientific properties that make it work. Plumbing, would not be possible, without an understanding of physics.
Im not trying to start anything, just giving my two cents.
TheOriginalNathanOSU 2 weeks ago
@TheOriginalNathanOSU Yeah that last bit was a bit stupid in retrospect. But the rest of it I stick by and is actually he more important point. And whilst he doesn't directly say all inventions are attributed to science, it is implied, with him repeatedly mention how scientific discoveries and creations have mad everything better. Which I would argue with anyway, but that isn't the point.
JDiddly3 2 weeks ago
@JDiddly3 The toilet is both since it relies on basic scientific principles to function as well as science to create the materials that were used in its construction.
TrueMetis 1 week ago
@JDiddly3 Of course a toilet and the plumbing behind it is science. You freaking moron.
rickysims212 1 week ago
@rickysims212 Yes....I fucking know! I said it was a stupid example looking back alright....I fucking know! You don't have to keep saying, I'm bloody sick of it. I KNOW!!
JDiddly3 1 week ago
@JDiddly3 Look what you did! You made me feel bad now. I apologize. I have to admit for someone to admit even the slighest thing they did wrong is admirable.
rickysims212 1 week ago
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JDiddly3 1 week ago
And there is contradiction here, he says 'have given us the ability to educate ourselves, express creativity, and ponder existence', whereas his message here, and always has been that evolution is fact and everything in science is fact and anything else is wrong and superstitious. How can we ponder it if you are telling us? How can you have a go at someone for claiming to have all the answers when you are saying you have all the answers?
JDiddly3 2 weeks ago
I don't think it should be titled like this at all. I mean 'slaves'? Nowadays you'll find that the vast majority of people on the Earth and I would think about 90-95% of people, chose their religious or superstitious beliefs, it is very rare that is is forced on people. 'Slave' suggests the inability to free themselves, and emotional and physical pain. Religious and superstitious people are so because usually they chose to be, and are happy with that decision. And why not leave them to it?
JDiddly3 2 weeks ago
@JDiddly3 "I would think about 90-95% of people, chose their religious or superstitious beliefs"
No most people are given their beliefs at birth. There are plenty of countries where their religion is forced on them, leaving their religion can lead to a death penalty.
"...everything in science is fact and anything else is wrong and superstitious"
Science is where the evidence leads us.
"And, religious people don't immediately disregard, ignore, or dislike science. "
A lot of them do.
urantivirus 2 weeks ago
@urantivirus Well no you're wrong. I know many people who grew up religious and aren't anymore, and my paretns have multiple friends who grew up atheists and converted. And when you say plenty of countries, I assume the only countries you're talking about, because these are the only countires where conversion is strongly discouraged and/or illegal, are middle-eastern countries. This isn't the case in most countries on Earth you will find.
JDiddly3 1 week ago
@JDiddly3 And you're completely wrong on the third point as well, and it is very ignorant of anyone to say something like that. The vast majority embrace science and the great things it has accomplished, and they live with them all the time. You may have already made the retarded assumption that religious people are stupid, but they absolutely are not, they understand science and believe it, just not all parts, and considering a broad a subject science is, isn't saying a whole lot.
JDiddly3 1 week ago
@JDiddly3 I'm not sure you could say vast majority when considering the whole world, no matter how small your perspective world. I congratulate the religious people who accept science and I have all the more to agree with them. But I also think they are taking away most of the meaning from their religion in most cases. If Genesis isn't literal then there is no original sin.
urantivirus 1 week ago
@urantivirus And what does the second point even mean? I didn't mention evidence of any type. I'm repeated the context of what he was saying, where did you get the word 'evidence' from? I don't even think that, that was kind of the point. And I'm not disputing the factual attributes of science, so what was your point exactly?
JDiddly3 1 week ago
@JDiddly3 You: "And what does the second point even mean?"
You: "And there is contradiction here, he says 'have given us the ability to educate ourselves, express creativity, and ponder existence', whereas his message here, and always has been that evolution is fact and everything in science is fact and anything else is wrong and superstitious."
It's regarded as superstitious for a reason. That's because people believe it regardless of the evidence. Would you prefer the word delusion?
urantivirus 1 week ago
@JDiddly3
90-95% of people who read your comment will laugh out loud before not responding because they'd only repeat what Urantivirus wrote.
FreeThinker148 1 week ago in playlist Enemies of Reason
@FreeThinker148 Yes, and they would have to be very, very easily pleased and people who are a considerable distance up their own arses who think they are awfully superior, and feel the need to laugh hysterically at someone's mistake which has little relevance to anything in the universe. They too would probably get great kicks out of toilet and slapstick humor if it takes that much for them to laugh that hard.
JDiddly3 1 week ago
I wish I could make a living being fat and stupid. Kind of like being a Nascar driver.
MrSpywhite 2 weeks ago
4:35 Imagine just randomly walking into that gypsy convention and the first thing you saw was Mr. Dawkins playing some weird flute o.0
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It feels good to be rational, gives you a sense of been ahead of your time rather that it been merely realize by people in the future, now I'm not been self-righteous, it doesn't matter what you believe once you don't hurt, were all equal but I can't deny the fact it feels good to be ahead of your own time as most people are still theists because if your ahead of your time your only helping push forward society to reach a more rational time sooner and with a more rational era brings more safety
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THEHELENOHENZO 1 month ago
i dont like the way he seems to completely go against these superstitions. People believe what they want. They should be able to do so without being critisized
TheMissArabia 1 month ago
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juliantrevin38 1 month ago
did you know children are natural creationists? because they are too dumb to comprehend things existing without reason. if you don't successfully develop your mental capacities to use reason you become religious. they're a bunch of kids... they believe what they're told, they can't use reason, they get emotional when you disagree, and they love a good fairy tale
dopeasfuckk 1 month ago
it is really superstitious to believe that the sun and the stars would have an effect on human behaviour? sure, it has an effect on the earth, like the moon and the sun. and not to forget the planetary orbits. but even the possibility that there would be any effect on humans is of course out of the question. they live on this planet but are only subjected to the gravity... and gravity doesn´t exist of course because i can´t see it (to step into dawkins´arguing)
fongster62 1 month ago
@fongster62 "it is really superstitious to believe that the sun and the stars would have an effect on human behaviour?"
Not only is it superstitious, it's delusional.
"and gravity doesn´t exist of course because i can´t see it"
Wow. No, be we can test/calculate it's affect on us. You act like astrology is a cutting edge idea that has yet to be tested. I think you need to see James Randi in action, then you can move up to Dawkins.
urantivirus 1 month ago 7
@urantivirus i reacted to the video´s because dawkins reminded me more of a lecturing schoolmaster. but then again this was in accordance with the set-up of the program. actually, to come to think of it, after seeing some footage the tabloid title started to annoy me. and indeed i shouldn´t have taken the whole matter seriously, at all. dawkins seemed to have a good time exposing people. so.... who am i to cast a shadow in these enlightning programmes.
fongster62 1 month ago
@urantivirus
lol at "need to see James Randi in action, then you can move up to Dawkins". Funny. I like it.
SanRafaelSwell 1 month ago
@fongster62 "science in not limited to what we can see" - Richard Dawkins... ya simpleton.
dopeasfuckk 1 month ago
@dopeasfuckk is*
dopeasfuckk 1 month ago
@dopeasfuckk ... its true, only, haven´t really seen how he applies it
fongster62 1 month ago
@fongster62
Yes, it is superstitious and delusional. Can you please explain the mechanisms by which other planets and stars effect humans? If you say gravity...uh....fact is the gravity of your mother at the time of your birth was far greater than the gravity of Jupiter or the Sun at that distance. Inverse square law, look it up. If you'd like, I'll do the calculations for you but I'd need to know the mass of you when you were born and the mass of your mother at the time of your birth.
SanRafaelSwell 1 month ago
@SanRafaelSwell in my last comment it was already clear that i didn´t need to spend more time on the topic... and if you really want to know things go find it out for yourself or spend your time more reasonable...
fongster62 1 month ago
@fongster62
So you have nothing to support your position, didn't think so.
SanRafaelSwell 1 month ago
@SanRafaelSwell ...well, i will point out something that makes more sense (i believe). and then drop the discussion. you started a discussion with already dismissing the idea. and then you want me to prove something that you don´t believe in the first place. seems un-reasonable to me... i just don´t have any part in your equation
fongster62 1 month ago
@fongster62
Already dismissing the idea? So when someone tells me an I idea I should just accept it? HAHAHA. No thank you, I have a critical mind and I'm proud of it. In order for anyone to believe anything they should be convinced first. You are essentially asking me to accept astrology on faith? Faith is bullshit, it is childish and boarders on psychosis. I want you to support your claims, that is what honest people do. How is that unreasonable?
SanRafaelSwell 1 month ago
@SanRafaelSwell i believe a scientific mind questions everything. like copernicus and keppler questioned their systems at the time. i didn´t force you to accept anything, and i don´t want you to believe anything. i m more interested in an open mind. i challenged your reasoning. but instead of giving that a thought it only seems to get you upset and that comes across pretty unreasonable.
fongster62 1 month ago
Haven't gotten upset at all. All you are doing is avoiding the topic at hand (is astrology real). You haven't answered my original question to you. Asking someone to support their position isn't unreasonable, it is demanded by logic and reason. I suggest you deal with it.
SanRafaelSwell 4 weeks ago
@fongster62 The word "see" in that sense, is used more that just in visual aid. Sure, we cannot see gravity, but there is proof via testing that it is their.
TheOriginalNathanOSU 2 weeks ago
even his demanding the answer about how astrology works is proposterous. in modern science a lot of things are not being explained, but scientist still work with it and trying to find out how it works. so if he wants to know the answer he should research it for himself like any true scientific mind would reason (galileo, keppler, copernicus, da vinci etc).
fongster62 1 month ago
he talks about the "age of enlightment" not even mentioning that it were the muslim (-invasions) during the 13th or 14th (or earlier) who provided all the knowledge that was lost to the europeans (greek filosofie and science etc).
fongster62 1 month ago
richard dawkins acts as a scientist but reasons in a very bias manner. by already referring to the different topics as being backwards and superstitious from the start. whether he would be wrong or right is not the case it is the way he approaches the whole matter.
fongster62 1 month ago
@fongster62 "richard dawkins acts as a scientist but reasons in a very bias manner."
How should he have used his scientific background with this documentary? I don't think the point of this documentary was to prove this stuff wrong. Just about everyone watching it knows all this stuff is BS. It's all be proved wrong by many other people. Dawkins is only pointing out these ridiculous ideas.
"in modern science a lot of things are not being explained"
This stuff has been explained.
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absongs 1 month ago
Hey he's got a pretty good musical bone in him at that fair! He's clearly so much more educated than what people just see on the surface ^^
asiacitylove 2 months ago
@asiacitylove I thought that! :)
thrashmetalteen 1 month ago
hes charming
imcrazy85 2 months ago
show me a christian that did good in science in high school. thats right u cant find one
GRossLordPark 2 months ago
@GRossLordPark show me a christian that is good for anything besides slave labor
ThePenguinColonel 1 month ago
@urantivirus **Yep you seem to be the smart one,who by the by,DID NOT ANSWER,any questions.I've got 30+ years on you here on earth.You'll see as you age,that the people who call the other guy 'the thief' are usually the thief.The one screaming liar,is usually the liar."Your guess is",shows what you are,All Wrong.In NYC,for 2 years I came in FIRST in push-up,and pull-ups in the WHOLE CITY,Yes I was 17 years old,ah,did you do that?I live on an Island,do you?You explained yourself,above.I'm done.
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oOADROo 2 months ago
@oOADROo you have become a slave to other people's ideas
ThePenguinColonel 1 month ago
the statement of dawkins is doubtfull since he never learn all these new age things. he never get a training with open eyes. how could he know that these new age things are superstition and not science?
can a non medical person give opinion in medical matters ?
dawkins have no formal training in these new age things. how he come to the conclusion that these are superstition?
is science the religion of 21st century?
freedomofthought100 2 months ago
@freedomofthought100 You're right in the sense that he doesn't do much debunking in this video, but it's not really the point. The subjects he's covering have all be debunked by many people already. He's not trying to prove that they are BS, that's already been done by people like James Randi, Penn & Teller and many more. Science fits none of the definitions of religion, so there's no chance of it being a religion. I'm not saying there can't be religions based on science,just not science itself.
urantivirus 2 months ago
@urantivirus
look the scientists who "debunked" these things never studied or practice these "superstion" dilligently. all they did is to conduct tests that shows failure of these things. this does not mean that these things are bs.
if a non-medical person try to do medical treatment and failed, will that mean medical science is a bs ?
dawkins should first ardently study these bs, then will he be know the truth.
freedomofthought100 2 months ago
@freedomofthought100 What exactly do you want Dawkins to do? Are you familiar with the works of James Randi? None of these people can provide proof that any of it works. We're not looking at Dawkins as the professional of this subject, I don't understand how this confuses you. We use science to test the world around us. That's why we use medical science to test medical treatments as you mentioned. That's also why we use medical science to test things like homeopathy.
urantivirus 2 months ago
@urantivirus Yes you speak of using science,and what it is or is not.I would like to know exactly " WHAT ARE YOUR CREDENTIALS IN THE FIELD OF SCIENCE?" any or NONE,..? YOUR ANSWER IS :................
billy1212ist 2 months ago
@freedomofthought100 you are promoting logical fallacy as a form of reasoning
kmk408ci 2 months ago
First 40 seconds maked me laugh. richard's expression... xD
pettsnurr 2 months ago 11
@oOADROo Science IS perfect.It's misuse is IMPERFECT.And we humans are responsible for the atomic bomb-not the ATOMIC THEORY.
By God I guess you mean Zeus right?
Stevoukos 2 months ago
@Stevoukos ''We humans are responsible for the atomic bomb-not the ATOMIC THEORY?????''
I can't believe what i just heard!!!
So your saying that humans are not responsible for the Atomic theory?? LMFAO!!
I'm guessing Aliens came out with that theory lol
No disrepect dude but you need to redo your comment because it makes you look like a right fool.
oOADROo 2 months ago 4
@oOADROo You are an idiot.
Theories are words that we humans use to explain NATURAL PHENOMENON which exist anyway.
Atomic fission EXISTS in the real world-That's the cause for the atomic bomb.
The atomic theory explains ATOMS and their BEHAVIOUR.There is NOTHING wrong with that.
The way that people USE that knowledge is the thing you should be focusing on.Not the knowledge itself.
Stevoukos 2 months ago
Without God there is no reason.
SunnyLovetts 2 months ago
they all look so STUPID next to dawkins hahahaha
TraceurMeeka 2 months ago
@oOADROo Quote: "In science labs it's all about ''Let's see what happens'' like little children giving a firework to a dog just to see what happens."
That answer just shows how little you know about how science works.
But I notice that you have still avoided my question regarding if you having such high moral ethics that you would rather die than demonstrate your total hypocracy by using any medicine developed using animal testing, but your silence on that subject says volumes.
I rest my case.
Darwinsman 3 months ago
To every 'overzealous bible thumper' (lets face it Buddists aren't doing this) and every other 'pro-scientific and screw everyone else idea,' STFU. Common bias has led you to believe whatever you are going to believe. No matter how good an argument is made for one side or the other people are always going to disagree with it, simply because of their prejuduces'. Watch this video as a potential source of knowledge, gain from it whatever you can, rationally apply it, and move on.
Tazuboo 3 months ago
@lotmein20 Science is evolution??? You know what you just said??
I don't know if i should laugh or cry.
Evolution is Charles Darwin theories which those so called modern scientist (atheist) try to make it into a religion, claiming that theory's are fact and man was a ignorant species that evolved overtime. Man was never an animal or came from animal spunk, when you say man evolved from monkeys and apes i take that as a insult.
oOADROo 3 months ago
@oOADROo He didn't say "science is evolution" you illiterate, he said "Evolution is Science". Which means that it is part of science, not that it is all of science.
No scientist claims that a theory is a fact, a theory is only the best explaination of observable phenomena but theories will also make predictions which are born out.
Evolution is a FACT, the Theory of Evolution is a description of the process of evolution.
You evolved from an ape, be insulted, it doesn't change the fact.
Palocles 3 months ago
@Palocles ''Evolution is science'' ''Science is evolution'' there is no difference. Let me tell you this my honorable friend!! There isn't any fossil records showing half man and monkey, man never came from monkey spunk all this is based on Charles Darwin theory's which modern so called scientists like
Jerry Coyne and Richard Dawkins trying to make it into a religion
oOADROo 3 months ago
@oOADROo I've just skimmed through some of your other comments on here and you are obviously either incredibly stupid or incredible poorly educated. You really should find out a bit more about the things you are so hostile to because it's obvious you know nothing about them. There are a lot of good books you could try, maybe your mum can get them from the library for you.
BTW, noone is making science, evolution or athiesm into a religion, it is only people like you who make that claim.
Palocles 3 months ago
@Palocles Look dude!! if you want to insult yourself by believing you came from monkey spunk that's totally up to you but you're not going to insult me or down grade me to an animal.
This evolution and monkey spunk is nothing but a 150 year old fairytale.
oOADROo 3 months ago
@oOADROo
So absurdity without any tangible truth is okay, so long as it is thousands of years old and handed down by people that heard voices in their heads? And naturally provable hard science generated by people trained in critical thinking is rubbish? Amazing.
pop9095 3 months ago
@pop9095 Here is a trained critical thinker acknowledging about a man that heard voices in his head some thousands of years ago which were made fact duo to modern science
/watch?v=Tx434UE3SY
oOADROo 3 months ago
@oOADROo It's not an insult to have evolved from another form of life, it's a natural mechanism of life over millions of years. Maybe you don't realise that humans as we are now have been essentially the same in appearance for about 250,ooo years? That means you have to go back more than 10,ooo generations before your ancestors would look much different from you. You would have to go back hundreds of thousands of generations before our ancestors were ape like.
Palocles 3 months ago
@oOADROo Are you really so threatened by the fact that MILLIONS of years ago your ancestor was a type of ape? Have you got no confidence in your own self that you are superior to these creatures after hundreds of thousands of generations of change?
It's really not as bad as you seem to think it is.
Palocles 3 months ago
@Palocles The truth of the matter is....
Your ancestor are been tortured and beaten in the name of science as we speak :(
watch?v=LTJcPWHRf_g&feature=related
Don't you see the hypocrisy ?
oOADROo 3 months ago
@oOADROo You have a bit of temporal disassociation going on, animals currently being used in testing (which is what your link is for, i guess) are not our ancestors, they are another concurrently existing species with a common ancestor.
Sure, it's a shame that animal testing happens and it would be wonderful if it didn't have to but there would be a much bigger furor over testing prototype drugs on humans, even if they were condemned criminals. Would you give up insulin if you were diabetic?
Palocles 3 months ago
@Palocles Gorillas, orangutan, chimpanzees and so on.. They all have been tortured in science labs.
'' Would you give up insulin if you were diabetic?''
What has that got to do with putting electric brain implants into the head of a monkey? Animals were never meant for testing. You claim that man lived for millions of years how did man survived over those years without torturing a animal? I know what your going to say '' Through Natural Selection'' lol which is nothing but a bullshit word.
oOADROo 3 months ago
@oOADROo You don't use your brain very much, do you?
Animals aren't tortured for the sake of inflicting pain. When a drug (like insulin) or device (like a pace maker) for human use is developed it has to be proven to be safe for human use. We test the safety of these items on animals because they are considered less important than humans. Sad but true. Or would you rather test a monkey pace maker on a human subject?
The end of your comment makes no sense at all.
Palocles 3 months ago
@lotmein20 Only 3 bad things? lol I like that comment :D there's nothing wrong in defending your religion anyways let's get back to reality, Science has been hijacked and turned in to a religion by Atheist claiming science for themselves not knowing that science is only mans research. People from different faiths and backgrounds have contributed so my friend when you talk about science your actually talking about mans research not Darwinism .
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SpencerBenedict2nd 3 months ago
Despite the grammar, he's more or less on the money. Natural selection, ideal environments, and genetic mutations would really cover almost all (if not all) of the necessary points that need to be covered. If you want to get into the question of the "Prime Mover" you're making the claim that everything that starts needs something to start it: The equal question applies, if you believe god started it, who/what started God?
cheshireinjapan 3 months ago
No one made evoltion possibale its natural seltion? Theres no such thing as ur god. Or any other god for that matter ur a joke. educate ur self with philoishpy and sceinces. The day u do is the day u will see reason.
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deanmullen10 3 months ago
What's Richard Dawkins's view on Buddhism? It's not really a religion, isn't it? What's his view on Steve Jobs?
hewittzhong 3 months ago
@hewittzhong The only thing Buddhism lacks as far as a religion is a deity. But they do have rituals, prayer and believe in reincarnation. And his view on Steve Jobs is that he is dead.
urantivirus 3 months ago
@RandallWard1111 I think you better look up the words science, religion and god. Because they don't go together. In no way does your comment make sense. Are you a theistic agnostic? Or an atheistic agnostic?
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LMFAO Richard Dawkins believes his an African Ape HAHAHAH!!! What a delusional man... Sorry meant to say Ape XD
Reason?? MY ASS!!
oOADROo 3 months ago 15
@oOADROo Take your baseless and ignorant opinions else where. I suggest you get an education. Would you like me to test your ignorance? I bet I can prove, quite easily, that you know nothing about the theory you so reject. Your opinion is 100% based on a lie you've been told your whole life.
First of all it's "he's an", ape doesn't need to be capitalized and you don't correct your self in a comment, you hit back space. Get your shit together before making such an ignorant comment.
urantivirus 3 months ago
@oOADROo Take your baseless and ignorant opinions else where. I suggest you get an education. Would you like me to test your ignorance? I bet I can prove, quite easily, that you know nothing about the theory you so reject. Your opinion is 100% based on a lie you've been told your whole life.
First of all it's "he's an", ape doesn't need to be capitalized and you don't correct your self in a comment, you hit back space. Get your shit together before making such an ignorant comment.
urantivirus 3 months ago
@urantivirus A man that calls himself an African Ape is delusional, and if you want to believe in Monkey Magic be my guest... but you're not convincing me or any God fearing people with your Planet of the Apes bullcrap fairytales.
oOADROo 3 months ago
@oOADROo I see you don't want to accept my challenge. You want to remain ignorant of evolution because your faith isn't as strong as you would like us to believe. If it was strong, you wouldn't be afraid to learn about evolution. Also, are you thumbing up your own comments with sock puppet accounts? lol
Remember, lying is a sin.
urantivirus 3 months ago
@urantivirus Some people are happy being ignorant and ill-informed. Sigh
CssAfc 3 months ago
@urantivirus First off ..You didn't challenge me, second!! the theory that man came from monkey spunk is insulting, and last of all..I don't want to know about the changes of species, why would i want to learn about that? It's not that important than ''WTF we doing here? ''
so I'm not going to waste my time believing something which isn't going to benefit me.
All I can say is science has been hijacked and turned into a fucking religion
oOADROo 3 months ago
@oOADROo "Would you like me to test your ignorance? I bet I can prove, quite easily, that you know nothing about the theory you so reject."
That was the challenge. You ignored it completely. You can remain as ignorant as you want, just don't claim something is false when you know nothing about it. The only thing you can say that is correct is "I don't really know anything about evolution but I keep my faith in the bible".
What you are doing is dishonest, that's a sin.
urantivirus 3 months ago
@urantivirus
(Part1)
Test my Ignorance?? What are you talking about? if you want to test me about theory's well i have a theory of my own. Some 8760 days ago the iPhone 4G ancestors the CT -100 Radio Shack portable cellular phone evolved to the iPhone 4G, we have evidence of this because of the similarities and DNA evidence, also we have fossils meaning documentation to proved it happen (Even though some scientist disagrees.)
oOADROo 3 months ago
@oOADROo Thank you for completely proving my point! It's a lot easier for me when people pwn themselves.
urantivirus 3 months ago
@urantivirus Thanks for agreeing with my theory, If i told that to a psychiatrist ill probably end up eating hospital food for the rest of my life XD
Now we got that out the way i want to ask you a simple question..
If evolution did really happened who made everything possible? or shall i say who was the backbone of all this? If you have any questions about the bible will be happy to answer you.
oOADROo 3 months ago
@oOADROo I said you proved my point, I never said I agree with you. As for bible questions. No, but thank you. I'm not ignorant like you. I know about the theory of evolution and I'm quite familiar with the bible, seeing as how I used to be a Christian.
urantivirus 3 months ago
@urantivirus You skipped my question. Let me repeat myself just encase you didn't see it.
IF EVOLUTION DID REALLY HAPPENED WHO MADE IT POSSIBLE?
oOADROo 3 months ago
@oOADROo You're the one personifying it, so you can't ask us who made it possible.
russellrummage 3 months ago
@russellrummage Hello Mr Russell... Many claim that we don't need religion because science has the answers, now I'm asking a simple question... What was the thing that made evolution possible? or even better.. How did everything came about? i asked this question to many Atheist they seem to run away maybe you have an good explanation on how things came about.
oOADROo 3 months ago
@oOADROo I don't think science has THE answers, just that it is the only real tool we have to investigate how reality actually is. But it's a journey that we're at the beginning of, people expect too much out of it. So I don't have the answer to your question, but because you have an answer doesn't mean it's the real one, especially as you have zero evidence for it. Watch 'Richard Feynman on God' if you want to know my exact opinion.
russellrummage 3 months ago
@russellrummage Mans research (science) with honesty and respect is good science.
I watched that clip, there is a lot of truth in what he said but there is problem, he denies God based on Christianity. People need to be a bit more rational and investigate other god believes before making any judgments because not all god believe are the same.
oOADROo 3 months ago
@russellrummage You said that i have zero evidence. You my friend! You are proof of God existence because if you're in danger and there isn't anyone to help you who do you call? Ghostbusters ? No! you call on the creator God, which you know has the power to save you so why do you deny your creator which gave you everything?
oOADROo 3 months ago
@oOADROo That's a loaded question. You fail by asking who.
urantivirus 3 months ago
@urantivirus All this talk about '' We don't need religion science has the answers!! '' is a load of nonsense! You can't give me a simple scientific answer to how things came about never mind the Ape theory. I believe in evolution based on the Quranic version, it makes a lot more sense than the scientific Ape theory. God has told us that he changed human features including brainpower over time to suit the environment, God also explains his creation in great details with scientific fact.
oOADROo 3 months ago
@oOADROo Why can't you believe that God used evolution to shape humans into what they are today? Because us evolving from apes is a fact. In fact, we are still apes. We've been classified as apes before Darwin was even alive. I really don't know what you mean by how things came about. You've asked that question differently every time. Are you asking how the process of evolution started? Are you asking where life or the universe came from? Because those last don't involve evolution.
urantivirus 3 months ago
@urantivirus I don't reject science nor i agree with it, the same with the Bible and the Quran, they all have some truth in it and also have things which makes you want to scratch your head. I've looked at the theory of evolution and watched many documentaries and read about it, to me it's only 1 piece of the puzzle, it isn't fully completed it has a long way to go but will keep an open mind as long as I live but for now I'm sticking with the Quranic version of creation
oOADROo 3 months ago
@oOADROo I hope you do have an open mind and I hope you keep looking at all the evidence as well. I will do the same with science and both the bible and quran included.
urantivirus 3 months ago
@urantivirus i am an opened minded person, i respect everybody's believes and ways of life except for those like Richard Dawkins who uses mans research (science) and claim it for himself when everybody knows that people from other faiths and cultures and background have contributed. Science isn't an atheist thing or a religion its only knowledge and this knowledge is for everyone and should not be turned into a religion
oOADROo 3 months ago
@oOADROo "Richard Dawkins who uses mans research (science) and claim it for himself"
I don't think you know Richard Dawkins too well. He never claims atheists are the only people who contribute to science and he never claims that you have to be an atheist to accept science. At no point does he say science is only for atheists. You don't respect other peoples beliefs or non-beliefs. You judge people without really knowing anything about them.
urantivirus 3 months ago
@oOADROo You are not open minded. You only look for the evidence that fits your religion.
Look at it this way. I don't care if a god exists or not. If someone or god showed me proof of his or her existence I would believe. I might not worship, but I would believe. Let me ask you this. Would you care if god doesn't exist?
Oh, you never answered my other question...
"Also, are you thumbing up your own comments with sock puppet accounts? lol"
urantivirus 3 months ago
@urantivirus
(Part 2)
This process took place through Natural Selection meaning the survival of the fittest and reproducing. This theory is FACT!!! Because theory's means Fact. Fact and theory's have the same meaning.
oOADROo 3 months ago
@oOADROo You are joking aren't you?
MissAriaValentine 3 months ago
@MissAriaValentine No.... He really does believe he was an African Ape.
oOADROo 3 months ago
@oOADROo Laughter and hostility are very common responses of ignorant people to misunderstood and unfamiliar stimuli.
ultimateZigzag 3 months ago
@ultimateZigzag Now say that in English please!!
oOADROo 3 months ago
@oOADROo omg i no rite?! rite?!
pigeoncoo 3 months ago
@oOADROo Riachrd dawkings does not believe in santa clause, the easter bunny or gandalf the grey for that matter.
WHY?
Because they are illogical and without evidence
InstinctYOU 3 months ago
@InstinctYOU I rather believe in Santa claus and the Easter Bunny at least you get presents and a nice juicy chocolate bunny :D What do you get for believing in Monkey Spunk? Nothing!!
BTW you have no evidence.... Show me half man and half monkey?
oOADROo 3 months ago
@oOADROo Your belief do not get you presents or chocolate bunny, it's those that want you to believe in it that give you those things.
ddrddrddrddr 3 months ago
@ddrddrddrddr So what do you believe in? do you believe man was once a monkey?
oOADROo 3 months ago
@oOADROo Lol, another idiot who have no idea about evolution. Look more stupid please.
ddrddrddrddr 3 months ago
@ddrddrddrddr You can't answer a simple question, i know your ashamed to admit that your religion teaches that man came from monkey spunk XD to be all honest i don't want to know, It's sad to see man insult his own intelligents.
oOADROo 3 months ago
@oOADROo Anyone who puts up a strawman of Evolution into something as ludicrous and simplistic as man evolving from monkey insults his own intelligence. 10/10 though, I enjoy trolls.
ddrddrddrddr 3 months ago
@oOADROo wow you are dumb and ignorant. That is somewhat funny. I guess any ape is more intelligent than you and your ass.
jomushin7 3 months ago
@oOADROo Well at least he has good reason to believe that human and apes have the same ancestors, while you have no reason to believe in your fairy tales. But hey science makes no difference; your computer works for you too. I think this a little bit unfair and religious ignorant folks like you shouldn't be allowed to use a computer or television or telephones. Go develope something with your force by god.
jomushin7 3 months ago
@jomushin7 All those extract radiation. Science has built Weapons of mass destruction, electronic brain implants, Bio chips to control the human species, your so called ancestors are tortured in science labs as we speak, Your logic sucks dude!!.
oOADROo 3 months ago 13
@oOADROo
Knowledge is not evil.
You have a problem with how people use that knowledge.
Ignorance and superstition has clear pitfalls and is the root cause of much evil.
I have a problem with the basic existence of such.
Ryakki 2 months ago
@Ryakki Exactly!! I have no problem with science only in the way it's been used.
oOADROo 2 months ago
@oOADROo
Oh. Well ok then.
My opinion is that science is the most important facet of human existence, our path forward... but it's a tool. And indeed, a tool in unethical or cruel hands is dangerous.
Science always needs oversight and ethical considerations.
Ryakki 2 months ago
@oOADROo That has to be a joke.
It's ment ironic, isn't it?
Verfuegbarkeitsbias 2 months ago
@oOADROo Science has built computers, cars, electricity, amazing medicine. Yes there have been some bad things invented but the pros FAR out weigh the cons. Millions of more lives have been saved than lost because of science. Every day you worship science by simply using a piece of technology.
Headifen 1 month ago
@Headifen Computers, cars, electricity, medicine none of those are made by science actually nothing is..... Most are made by China , Korea, Thailand and Singapore.
i have looked at the back of all my products and none say ''Made By Science'' it's all made by different people from around the world. Science never made jack shit!!!
oOADROo 1 month ago
@oOADROo lol, you would have to be a massive troll
you cannot be so retarded you actually think science is not implemented in the design and function of a car, electricity as a source of energy, why medicines works
if you truly belive this then you by definition is a waste of human resources and should just poof disappear :p
bardiche1989 1 month ago
@bardiche1989 Science is nothing but mans knowledge and research so it was man!! that made cars, electricity not Science... Science was used the same way as Mathematics where used and worldly materials but to say Science did everything then you're nothing but an ignorant African ape.
oOADROo 1 month ago
@oOADROo "University/College/School:
Never went to school", confirmation for "either troll or retard" lol
eitherway as to your question, how is saying it was man not science any relevant when man utilised science. Its not like if we would have cars, electricty, etc, etc if man had NOT used science lol. Try to cure small pox with the bible, try to eradicate cholera with it, try to go on youtube through the bible see how far you get.
Stil thinks you are more troll than retard though
bardiche1989 1 month ago
@oOADROo the modern chimpansee are not our ancestors, but we share a common ancestor.
HTTS76 1 month ago
@HTTS76 along with bonobos, gorillas and orang utans
HTTS76 1 month ago
@oOADROo Huh huh, I know lol. How he not believe that we were made from dirt by an invisible man in the sky? It makes so much more sense!
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lightandbeautiful 3 months ago
@RandallWard1111 that is nonsense. we are liberal societies. no one gives a fuck what you do in private and never will. but if you want to be taken seriously in the public domain you'll have to actually have evidence to back your claims with.
topperheartramada 3 months ago
Huh. Interesting programs...I wonder what "Enemies of Reason" would look like had it been made from an American, rather than a British, perspective?
macgeek2004 3 months ago
he should focus more on Islam, that's the most powerful and threatening religion today... kicking dead horses like protestantism makes less sense and is a waste of time, I think.
Dadutta 3 months ago 5
@Dadutta yeah, but the new age nonsense is the major disease of the western societies. all my friends are atheists, but a lot of them believe in astrology, angels, healing, mediums, and so on.
topperheartramada 3 months ago
@Dadutta ok, Islam is the most threatening, but the wasps, the tea party and the way bush brought church and state back together are products of protestantism.
beheerowner 3 months ago
@beheerowner but if it is being focused on in such a way as to detract focus from the far more dangerous and influential religion called Islam, then its an unpragmatic waste of time.
Dadutta 3 months ago
I saw Jesus on a piece of toast today. I ate that shit up!
CookieWalka 3 months ago
@RandallWard1111 "Anything not "rational" is heretical." sure, but atheists generally don't stone, kill, exile, burn, sacrifice, or mutilate those which we don't agree with. Instead we write books and give speeches.
PeacefulAtheist1 4 months ago 2
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Bad news man is made in the image of God,the Bible is the word of God more bad news unless you change ,its appointed unto each of us once to die then the judgment and NDEs are not lack of oxygen when we die would you care to explore that some more ,look up the story of ex atheist Howard Storm and Mickey Robinson here on you tube ,its you soul and a lot is at stake after all,people are begging now to get out of Hell but you foolishly rush in!
majorl311 4 months ago
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Religionists love to ask that question: "then how did it all start?" (as if they know and everyone else is stupid for not taking their word for it) Because ANY answer is better than no answer, right? And when in the end, they're speculating as well because they can't know the things they claim either. The point is try and find out the answers using intelligent, mature means rather than blindly resorting to old tomes and deities to fill every hole. Even common sense would be a better option.
mechanicmike69 4 months ago
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Now think about God ,He had the ability to create the universe and within that universe is an astounding number of things that are powerful within themselves such as the star that dwarfs the sun and all living breathing life upon the earth,complexity within one cell and an infinite universe,no wonder God doesn't show Himself we would all be consumed by His power!
majorl311 4 months ago
I read all the horoscopes and just pick the one I fancy.
qlight 4 months ago
I'm a capricorn, I'll leave the water, hop over to your ass, headbutt you into the water jump back into the water and DROOOOWN YOOOOU!
Now that's a horoscope I'd like to read.
maugustyniak 4 months ago
@GlorybyMurder Knowledge is accumulation of facts, it is not wisdom.
jdree001 4 months ago
@jdree001 how ironic it is then that only the wise accumulate knowledge and the stupid worship and empty sky
Webzlinger 4 months ago
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"Reckless Medicine" an article in the Discover Magazine, google it and see how science in the pursuit of money is killing hundreds of thousands of people,then will you still trust science and not look into things more wisely,the Bible says wisdom is more valuable than Rubies!
majorl311 4 months ago