Let me ask you this. Why would the estate get fake singer to sing the tracks when they could just use other tracks?? Doesn't that debunk the fake mj vocals at least a LITTLE?
@mjwc97 Notice there have been no tracks released that were produced by Will.i.am, or Rodney Jerkins, or RedOne?
Those guys know that the executors are far more interested in lining their own pockets with cash, than honoring MJ's legacy...
The estate cannot release a song without the producers permission.. So maybe they felt the remaining unreleased material wasn't up to scratch? That might explain why they decided to include 3 Cascio tracks.
People singing on the 3 released Cascio tracks: Keep Your Head Up Lead vocals: Michael Jackson. Background vocals: Michael Jackson, James Porte. Monster Lead vocals: Michael Jackson. Background vocals: Michael Jackson, James Porte. Rap: Curtis Jackson (50 Cent) Breaking News Lead vocals: Michael Jackson. Background vocals: Michael Jackson, James Porte.
@ADKIc3mAnX36O Yeah, the "forensic Musicologists" you mention were employed by Sony.. so of course they were going to give the result Sony were looking for.
So far, those paid 'experts', and the word of Eddie Cascio are the only proof we've been provided that it's Michael's voice on those songs.
No footage, and not even any vocal outtakes.
Not to mention.. the biggest problem.. The voice sounds EXACTLY like Malachi.
@TJVlogs Well if it was "Fake" that would be illegal and it would destroy Sony, Epic Records, and Michael Jackson's estate and just for 3 songs they would risk all of that ?
And the album sold 2.5M copies official sales that means they would have to issue a recall that would be hell why risk so much for just 9 minutes or so of music.
@ADKIc3mAnX36O Correct.. the kind of fraud that's been committed IS illegal, and that's exactly why they are bullying, and trying to silence fans like myself who are speaking out against them.. take a look at the video i posted a few days ago called "Freedom Of Speech.. Not On YouTube".. you'll see what i mean.
@TJVlogs I seen it but still to me it sounds like MJ and I don't think MJ's estate would do something like that for 3 songs I mean come on they have hundreds in their vaults.
I feel the same way about the estate. I've lost hope in future releases after the Michael album fiasco. It's such a shame that they released those Cascio tracks.
@Crazcupmuffin Dude its just your opinion.Those vocals have been recognized as Michael's and released with MJs name attached to them. Possibly during the mastering + mixing stages the vocals were altered thru the technology used to "enhance" his voice despite possibly not even needing to. Listen 2 them carefully and you'll see they are MJ + not some other singer. 1 more reason i think its not JM* cuz if u were 2 actually listen to his cd he sounds completely to the voice on the Michael album!
Hi, First, I agree with EVERYTHING you said in this video. I just have one comment: I've listened to Will You Be There on Immortal and the poem at the end where he's crying has been released before
Dude, thank you, thank you, thank you for this review..i thought i was the only one who felt this way. 2 post releases, 2 failures. I mean if I want to hear a MJ Megamix, I'll play my "YANA- The Remixes..track 5"..cd. MJ was around to supervise that one in 1995. They don't get it..MJ is not here..you cannot duplicate, or add on..not without him here. Just put out the unreleased music untouched. Maybe Wil has a point.
I 'm tottally against anything that the estate puts out too, because not only did MJ not want 2 B associated with Sony or the lawyers that run the estate anymore,their limiting his mom & children access 2 the money it makes as well, & like u also said The records MJ put out when he was alive r the albums he wants his fans 2 hear& there the greastest no DJ can touch that.Great video with great honesty!
@4evermjacksonfan I have also listened to "Do you know where you children are?" , "Slave to the Rhythm" and "Burn 2Nite". At first I wasn't sure whether or not "Burn 2Nite" was MJ, but after listening to it a few more times I definately think that it is, its just been edited, probably due to copyright. All of those titles are performed by Michael Jackson.
@4evermjacksonfan ... (cont) are connected with MJ's estate, Sony, or the Cascio Family. It seems so very unlikely when Sony have the key to a vault of many unreleased MJ tracks, that Sony would stoop as low as to hire a singer to record vocals, and then for Sony to release them under the name of Michael Jackson, it just isn't plausible nor an action a well-known business would intentionally decide to make.
@4evermjacksonfan How would you know this kind of information? Not all 12 are leaked as far as I know. I know snippets of other songs MJ recorded have appeared online such as: I'm A Loser, People/Children of the World. And those are clearly MJ vocals. I've listened to a song titled: "Stay" and that song is without a doubt sung by Michael Jackson. Remember on Youtube, some users post videos knowing its not MJ to get Views and to confuse people, it doesnt mean the audio on those videos are
@brightfuturefilms i have hear most of the cascio tracks as well last xmas online roughly about 7 or 8 and they are in no way mj especially water and stay. Its amazing how people can be duped into thinking its mj when its simple to hear sum white dude singing. and there was a huge debate last xmas about how the songs were registered with nothing to do with mike. Then a couple days after his death his name was registered on them. If thats not fishy then i dont know.
@TJVlogs Wow, you really believe 3 recordings from the "Michael" LP have recorded Jason Malachi vocals??? People still believe that? Oh my! MJ knew the Cascio Family for many many years, and recorded at their home in 2007. If you were to actually listen to Jason Malachi's "Critical" album in full, you would be able to tell the difference. All Vocals on the "Michael" cd are MJ's, & not a hired singer,Other than this, I think your review of "Will You Be There" is awesome, I love that song too (:
@brightfuturefilms How many of the Cascio tracks have you heard? All 12 are online in some form (either the full song or a partial snippet). If you've only heard the 3 that are on the "MIchael" album, you really need to hear the other songs. Did you know those songs were registered in 2006 while Michael was alive and his name was nowhere in the filing, then 2 days after he died they were registered again and suddenly his name was in there? There are tons of red flags regarding those songs.
Man this review sucks,, sorry but you are the most negative reviewer i ever heard...The Michael album is fine, that album was supposed to show the listener what Michael was working on before he died.. If you can call Michael's friends liars then I can sure as hell call you ignorant.. Sorry but not everyone in Michael's circle were after money...They tried to help him and they continue to do so.. You people are impossible to please.
@michaelfan86 i agree with you on most of what u said except the part where u say he was working on those songs. He wasnt working on those songs at all. The only songs he was considering for a new album was best of joy and hollywood tonight. hold my hand was a song intended for akons album. keep your head up monster and breaking news were supposedly tracks he recorded in eddie cascios home basement? Which mike never mentioned and honestly dont believe he had anything to do with those songs.
@michaelfan86 Also i like the way you love me was an old track that didnt make the cut for invincible but was released on his ultimate collection in the form of a demo. Another day was also an outtake from the invincible sessions mike loved it but felt it didnt suit the style of the album. Behind the mask was recorded during the thriller sessions mike heard greg phillinganes in the studio and loved it so he recorded it for fun. And finally much too soon was another outtake from thriller sessions
@michaelfan86 i tottally agree with you, some fans are just impossible to please, THERE IS A REASON they keep the vocals and records (SO THEY CAN BE USED LATER) so i wonder which part you guys don't get or what you really boycott
Wow, i love that i found your videos your a fan that actually gets it, I 'm tottally against anything that the estate puts out too, because not only did MJ not want 2 B associated with Sony or the lawyers that run the estate anymore,their limiting his mom & children access 2 the money it makes as well, & like u also said The records MJ put out when he was alive r the albums he wants his fans 2 hear& there the greastest no DJ can touch that.Great video with great honesty!
@dneenlove umm michael got back together with sony for the Thriller 25 re-release. so how did michael not want to be associated with sony? He wasn't forced, Michael could have gotten into any new record label but he didn't... He chose sony again, only because Tommy Mattolla stepped down as the CEO by that time.
@michaelfan86 first off, dont try 2 check me because in actuality, we're just fans &we only know what we hear, you wasnt with Mj when he did his business ventures or me,the only ppl that truly know the truth is his family & business associates, if your not either one of those ppl, then your no more wrong or right than i am...Mj fans should support eachother not disrespect & put others down. Michael Jackson doesnt represent that ignorant type of behavior. THANK YOU!
Woah! What happened here? I agree with TJ on ALL points. I just misunderstood you TJ from my first comment towards you. I see you're angry at the Estate.
I truly believe the MJ fanbase will always be divided. Some what to help the Estate to further Michael's legacy; while others are against it since Michael isn't here.
@rfalm No No No... you've got it all wrong again.. what's so hard to understand?
I am not angry and against the estate because Michael isn't here. I am angry at the executors because they committed fraud. They released an album with Jason Malachi's vocals, and put Michael's name and face on it.
Of course i want to see Michael's legacy continue to shine... but continually releasing sub-standard shit is not going to do that. The Vision dvd's were terrible. Sure, they had great packaging, but the
@TJVlogs TJ, I get what you're saying and agree with everything you just said now. (oops and sorry for the misunderstanding AGAIN) I am fan too and follow these things as well.. I'm just as pissed off as you are of what the executors of the Estate have done to Michael's legacy. It seem like everyone is screwing MJ over these days and doesn't care. Michael dealt with these kinds of vultures all of his life....and it makes me sad and helpless to be honest. It's like, what can you do?
@TJVlogs Are you pissed at me TJ? I hope not. :( It was all a misunderstanding on my part. If you truly knew me you would understand that I have a hard time reading people. I apologize.
@rfalm videos were NOT Remastered like was claimed.. the image quality was even worse than previous dvd releases. - they just slapped whatever copies of the video's they had close-by, put them on a disc, and shipped them in some pretty packaging. - that was not respectful to Michael's legay.... but it made them a lot of quick cash.
And as for the "Michael" album,well, there is no need to go over all that again. the point is, the executors obviously care much more about lining their pockets with
@TJVlogs And I'm not pretending everything is all wonderful either. I'm literally outraged, like beyond furious about this ordeal, but then again having those emotions isn't going to change anything or wouldn't be good for my health. I've dealt with alot of personal issues and adding my outrage isn't going to make my life any peaceful. I applaud you for voicing your disgust/opinion. You're outspoken and I'm just not that way. I'm more shy.
I agree with you, Tj. Honestly, whatever it comes after June 25th, 2009 is all about money... And being $ony Fony involved.. it's just continued exploitation!
@TJVlogs I am angry at you, same as any other loayl fan, what you call boycotting does not have a real reasons that is why you are doomed to fail i explain my self 1.You take your time and make a video saying UNFINISHED SONGS as if you are a genius in music production, let me ask you, do you think THE ESTATE you seem to hate so much should just burn those songs just because they were not finished by the King himself? tell us what you think should be done with every product that MJ never finished
@simbij if his work was UNFINISHED, that means it shouldn't be released.
If someone found a vault of unfinished Picasso paintings, and then splashed on some more paint till it looked satisfactory in his eyes, and then released it as a "Picasso", is that ok? No!
Of course i want to hear more of Michael's music.. but he's gone. He's not here to create music anymore... Adding new beats, instruments, and VOCALS to something Michael hadn't finished working on is NOT the same thing.
@TJVlogs "If someone found a vault of unfinished Picasso paintings, and then splashed on some more paint till it looked satisfactory in his eyes, and then released it as a "Picasso", is that ok? No!"
Very well put TJ!...I do like extended versions thought where you can usually hear a break down of the original music, but sometimes remixes can be good, like "Stranger In Moscow (Tee's Light A/C Mix)" and "You Are Not Alone(Jon B. Padappella Mix)", those are just great.
@TJVlogs exactly dude. My initial thoughts when they said they were releasing an album of material he didnt get to finish was one like they did with the beatles anthology albums were we would here all the demos and incompleted tracks the way he left them like a double album with 30 or 40 songs that would have been the ideal album instead of trying to fuck with the songs leave them the way they were and let us hear the original versions.
Michael was a professional, and he used the best, he was the ... miracle and this miracle is now with him! Sony and company, do not have the gene, and Michael will not never representing! are not using the heart, using the avidity! immortal and this is the confirmation! this is it! Michael R.I.P. I'll look at your original videos, listen to your songs, your concerts, your interviews, listen to your messages and remember who you were and always will be,
I think what I've heard of Immortal is good and I will buy it because I love anything of Michael and sadly there isn't going to be any more. What I really, really hate the thought of is this trashy biopic that the estate is talking about. I'm part of the release The Victory Tour campaign on here. If anyone wants the petition address please contact me. That's what the estate should be doing, releasing Michael's & The Jacksons remastered tours.
Much love to you TJ, :) I apologize for saying that you're always bitter. My feeling got in the way, and I didn't mean to attack you. Hope you don't hold it against me. I'm truly sorry.
I get what you're saying TJ, the Estate ruined everything with the Michael album/fake vocals. I was pissed off and angry about the whole ordeal. (Still am) It makes feel extremely sad because Michael has been screwed over so many times in his life by so many vultures and I just thought it would NEVER come to THIS (messing with his music) and passing it on as Michael Jackson album when it's not.....
I find TII and the "Michael" album the same thing. Michael was working for a comeback concert series but he died and the concert didn't take place, so the Estate approves for the documentary to be released without MJ's approval.
The Michael album had some songs MJ was working on but not completed but the Estate released it anyway without MJ's approval.
MJ was a very highly private person and an extreme perfectionist, so I do believe he wouldn't want TII to be released for us to see...
Wow, you're always bitter TJ. That's the whole point of having an Estate, to bring in money. You didn't seem to have a problem in watching This Is It. Michael didn't give the ok to release that now did he (since he was dead) but you still watched anyways, and praised Kenny Ortega to high heavens for it.
@rfalm perhaps ur not familiar with timeline of post-death MJ releases.Let me fill you in:
TII was released in 2009,over a year before the estate released that "Michael" album featuring the vocals of another singer
TII was only months after Michaels death.Kenny Ortega & others worked hard to get it finished quickly.& it helped a lot of fans get closure & to say goodbye
TII showed us Michael & what he was working on
The 'Michael' album showed us what the estate are capable of
@rfalm and i am not always fucking bitter, by the way.
But what the MJ estate did last year is completely unforgivable. Michael worked his entire life at QUALITY, TIMELESS music. The estate have absolutely no regard for his legacy or reputation. They've shown us they are capable even of fraud in order to make a buck.
Yes i enjoyed, and praised THIS IS IT.. but that was in 2009, over a year before we knew how evil the estate are.
@TJVlogs but the way you say it is like you were with MJ and you know for a fact he never recorded those songs? if he passed before 2001 i know ppl like you would have been talkin that cr** for songs like 2000 watts, tell me any difference between Breaking news and 2000 watts, anyway we all have our ways of appreciating but i've seen MJs handwritting for songs like BEST OF JOY so i'd rather believe that than believing you...just open your eyes and stop misleading fans it is dividing us seriously
@simbij I'mm not dividing the fans.The estate did that.MY eyes are wide open.
I know u wish everything was perfect & Michael's art was being respected, & his fans were all living in harmony,but unfortunately, that's not the way it is, & i know you wanna blame someone,but it's not my fault.
All i am guilty of is speaking the truth.Sure, the estate would like us to all shut up & eat the bullshit they feed us,but i can't do that.
Michael's legacy has been tarnished, & they're getting away with it.
@simbij As you said, you've seen MJ's handwritting for songs like Best Of Joy, we've heard a demo snippet of Hollywood Tonight with MJ talking about the bridge of the song, etc. Have you seen any handwritten lyrics or notes by MJ for even one of the Cascio tracks? Any evidence at all, besides the letter from the estate's attorney, that MJ sang the lead vocals of those songs? Of course not. Have you heard all 12 songs? I have and most are cheap imitations of true MJ songs. He didn't copy himself.
@4evermjacksonfan why would a record company who has access to hundreds of michael's unreleased songs, use another singer??? Do you know how dumb that sounds? Don't make judgements until you know the whole story, The estate has always had michael's interest at heart. Why do you all jump to conclusions just because it doesn't sound like michael? Michael has always been able to disguise his voice, and manipulate it, have you thought of that conclusion yet?
@michaelfan86 The estate don't have the ability to freely release all those genuine unreleased tracks without the consent of the producers and writers who worked on them with him. Notice that the Michael album didn't include any Will.i.am, RedOne, or Rodney Jerkins tracks? Those guys refused to let the estate release the tracks they worked on with MJ. The estate needed 'hit worthy' tracks for the album, and foolishly thought that nobody would notice if they used Malachi to sing on a few tracks.
@michaelfan86 I see that you don't understand why we're against the estate. Have you ever looked at Michael's will online? If not, I highly suggest that you do a google search for it. Look it over from top to bottom. There are several key errors in that will that to many of us including members of Michael's family indicates that it is a forged will. All of his kids names are wrong in some manner, Debbie Rowe's middle name is misspelled and it says he signed the will in LA when he was in NY.
@4evermjacksonfan I can see you don't understand either... it is NOT a forged will, and that is against the law...you don't know what you're talking about and if that were so, then where is the proof? Why isn't anyone doing anything about it? People spell names wrong all the time, My name is misspelled on my Driver license, no body cares...The will online is not the real will that is safely in the hands of the executors.. you should know not to trust the internet completely.
I did want to see that show but couldn't. I will not buy this cd & I didn't buy the last one either. I think it's a shame what they are doing. I know albums will always be made from the people that are no longer with us but they better be approved by family & be tasteful. Know what I mean? I have heard little bits of this album & didn't like what I heard. Sounds like they just threw whatever together 2 make money. MJ knew how 2 make his songs into mixes & 2 me these songs didn't do him justice.
I did not know about the Immortal album, so thanks again for your informative video :), but I am just the same, I never even bought the Michael album, I just searched on youtube and heard the tracks that were supposed to be new ones, I was positive not all the singing was Michael, and felt that was Sony's last laugh at MJ, because Sony knew he hated them. I searched, yes Immortal seems to have all the songs as "Immortal mixes", and all look like medleys, the CD isn't out yet here.
I have broken ALL of my Michael Jackson albums. Thriller, scratched, Bad broke, History Broke, Blod on the dancefloor, scratched, Invicible playable, I'm looking to buy an album again so I may buy this one. I suspect that a lot of the releases are geared toward non fans who are just discovering him. There are a lot of families who will see this show who don't own what we fans own and this will be great for them. I don't care for the executors but ANYTHING that makes MJ's estate beat Elvis...
I have been a Michael Jackson fan for 40 years..I enjoy the Jackson 5 - The Jacksons - Michael's singles and all of the the other albums...I read the Michael himself was participating in the mixes of The Stranger of Moscow, Blood on the Dance Floor and Ghost...In The HIStory and Ghost release albums which didn't sell well here in the US, I don't know how it did in the UK. I don't want to buy this new Immortal CD. But I certanly will go to see the show when Cirque du Soleil comes to my city.
I always enjoy your reviews as 99% of the time you express exactly what I think. I find it desperately sad/angry/bitter that "Jackson Inc" are cashing in on his legacy. Michael had a huge talent honed by his meticulous attention to detail about everything he released or performed. I bet the poor guy is turning in his grave right now.
Hey TJ. Just wanted to say how much I admire your objectivity. Even in the things you are truly passionate about you have no problem saying "it Sucked" Hope you have a great day . :)
I agree, it's okay.. But nothing that will blow you away. It all sounded good at the cirque show with the visual of it all but we don't need anymore MJ remixes. And now I don't feel so bad about still being bitter about the p.o.s. Cascio tracks! I always seem to agree with you. :)
@LittleLJ22 you should never feel bad about having bitter feelings towards the MJEstate for what they did last year. They tried hard to silence the fans, and succeeded in most cases unfortunately, but i will not be pacified. They are supposed to represent Michael, but instead they pissed on his legacy.
i used to buy absolutely anything and everything MJ related.. all the MJ Greatest Hits albums $ony put out.. all of it.. but the MJEstate won't get another cent out of me.
@TJVlogs I totally agree with you TJ. When "Breaking News" came out last year, I was gutted at first, then pissed off beyond belief cause I knew immediately those were not MJ's vocals.
@wachtower100 Yeah, what the MJ Estate did last year is completely unforgivable, and try as they may to silence the fans from speaking against it, i will never stop.
Michael Jackson worked his entire life on QUALITY music, not large quantities of sub-par horse shit.
I FUCKING LOVE YOU, You are so outspoken and you get right to the point. Thank you.
Takerloverforever 1 month ago
LOL "they haven't fucked with it too much"
JellyBean5808 1 month ago
SONY SUCK
johhb1 1 month ago
Let me ask you this. Why would the estate get fake singer to sing the tracks when they could just use other tracks?? Doesn't that debunk the fake mj vocals at least a LITTLE?
mjwc97 1 month ago
@mjwc97 Notice there have been no tracks released that were produced by Will.i.am, or Rodney Jerkins, or RedOne?
Those guys know that the executors are far more interested in lining their own pockets with cash, than honoring MJ's legacy...
The estate cannot release a song without the producers permission.. So maybe they felt the remaining unreleased material wasn't up to scratch? That might explain why they decided to include 3 Cascio tracks.
TJVlogs 1 month ago
@TJVlogs TJ,
You're fantastic you're so outspoken! I mean this all in a good way....
Harp..
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Before you talk so much s*** about the Cascio tracks saying that their not MJ prove it.
Because 2 forensic musicologists, MJ's producers, MJ's friends, etc believe it MJ.
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@ADKIc3mAnX36O exactly
Jahron91 1 month ago
@ADKIc3mAnX36O Yeah, the "forensic Musicologists" you mention were employed by Sony.. so of course they were going to give the result Sony were looking for.
So far, those paid 'experts', and the word of Eddie Cascio are the only proof we've been provided that it's Michael's voice on those songs.
No footage, and not even any vocal outtakes.
Not to mention.. the biggest problem.. The voice sounds EXACTLY like Malachi.
TJVlogs 1 month ago
@TJVlogs Well if it was "Fake" that would be illegal and it would destroy Sony, Epic Records, and Michael Jackson's estate and just for 3 songs they would risk all of that ?
And the album sold 2.5M copies official sales that means they would have to issue a recall that would be hell why risk so much for just 9 minutes or so of music.
ADKIc3mAnX36O 1 month ago
@ADKIc3mAnX36O Correct.. the kind of fraud that's been committed IS illegal, and that's exactly why they are bullying, and trying to silence fans like myself who are speaking out against them.. take a look at the video i posted a few days ago called "Freedom Of Speech.. Not On YouTube".. you'll see what i mean.
TJVlogs 1 month ago
@TJVlogs I seen it but still to me it sounds like MJ and I don't think MJ's estate would do something like that for 3 songs I mean come on they have hundreds in their vaults.
ADKIc3mAnX36O 1 month ago
I feel the same way about the estate. I've lost hope in future releases after the Michael album fiasco. It's such a shame that they released those Cascio tracks.
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@Crazcupmuffin Dude its just your opinion.Those vocals have been recognized as Michael's and released with MJs name attached to them. Possibly during the mastering + mixing stages the vocals were altered thru the technology used to "enhance" his voice despite possibly not even needing to. Listen 2 them carefully and you'll see they are MJ + not some other singer. 1 more reason i think its not JM* cuz if u were 2 actually listen to his cd he sounds completely to the voice on the Michael album!
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brightfuturefilms 2 months ago
I like the zoom ins when you say that SONY is evil....they are, I agree....the zooms make it more dramatic
jevonsekk 2 months ago
Hi, First, I agree with EVERYTHING you said in this video. I just have one comment: I've listened to Will You Be There on Immortal and the poem at the end where he's crying has been released before
jevonsekk 2 months ago
Dude, thank you, thank you, thank you for this review..i thought i was the only one who felt this way. 2 post releases, 2 failures. I mean if I want to hear a MJ Megamix, I'll play my "YANA- The Remixes..track 5"..cd. MJ was around to supervise that one in 1995. They don't get it..MJ is not here..you cannot duplicate, or add on..not without him here. Just put out the unreleased music untouched. Maybe Wil has a point.
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I absolutely agree with TVVlogs and dneenlove:
I 'm tottally against anything that the estate puts out too, because not only did MJ not want 2 B associated with Sony or the lawyers that run the estate anymore,their limiting his mom & children access 2 the money it makes as well, & like u also said The records MJ put out when he was alive r the albums he wants his fans 2 hear& there the greastest no DJ can touch that.Great video with great honesty!
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@4evermjacksonfan I have also listened to "Do you know where you children are?" , "Slave to the Rhythm" and "Burn 2Nite". At first I wasn't sure whether or not "Burn 2Nite" was MJ, but after listening to it a few more times I definately think that it is, its just been edited, probably due to copyright. All of those titles are performed by Michael Jackson.
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@4evermjacksonfan ... (cont) are connected with MJ's estate, Sony, or the Cascio Family. It seems so very unlikely when Sony have the key to a vault of many unreleased MJ tracks, that Sony would stoop as low as to hire a singer to record vocals, and then for Sony to release them under the name of Michael Jackson, it just isn't plausible nor an action a well-known business would intentionally decide to make.
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@4evermjacksonfan How would you know this kind of information? Not all 12 are leaked as far as I know. I know snippets of other songs MJ recorded have appeared online such as: I'm A Loser, People/Children of the World. And those are clearly MJ vocals. I've listened to a song titled: "Stay" and that song is without a doubt sung by Michael Jackson. Remember on Youtube, some users post videos knowing its not MJ to get Views and to confuse people, it doesnt mean the audio on those videos are
brightfuturefilms 3 months ago
@brightfuturefilms i have hear most of the cascio tracks as well last xmas online roughly about 7 or 8 and they are in no way mj especially water and stay. Its amazing how people can be duped into thinking its mj when its simple to hear sum white dude singing. and there was a huge debate last xmas about how the songs were registered with nothing to do with mike. Then a couple days after his death his name was registered on them. If thats not fishy then i dont know.
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@TJVlogs Wow, you really believe 3 recordings from the "Michael" LP have recorded Jason Malachi vocals??? People still believe that? Oh my! MJ knew the Cascio Family for many many years, and recorded at their home in 2007. If you were to actually listen to Jason Malachi's "Critical" album in full, you would be able to tell the difference. All Vocals on the "Michael" cd are MJ's, & not a hired singer,Other than this, I think your review of "Will You Be There" is awesome, I love that song too (:
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@brightfuturefilms How many of the Cascio tracks have you heard? All 12 are online in some form (either the full song or a partial snippet). If you've only heard the 3 that are on the "MIchael" album, you really need to hear the other songs. Did you know those songs were registered in 2006 while Michael was alive and his name was nowhere in the filing, then 2 days after he died they were registered again and suddenly his name was in there? There are tons of red flags regarding those songs.
4evermjacksonfan 3 months ago
"and will not going to buy anything that the Michael Jackson estate release..because they're evil...." hahaha ikr?!
fedorandwhitesocks 3 months ago
TJ, how do you feel about the Estate gearing up for a MJ biopic? It seems it's in their plans to do one....
rfalm 3 months ago
Man this review sucks,, sorry but you are the most negative reviewer i ever heard...The Michael album is fine, that album was supposed to show the listener what Michael was working on before he died.. If you can call Michael's friends liars then I can sure as hell call you ignorant.. Sorry but not everyone in Michael's circle were after money...They tried to help him and they continue to do so.. You people are impossible to please.
michaelfan86 3 months ago
@michaelfan86 The truth will come out. you'll see.
TJVlogs 3 months ago
@TJVlogs when that day comes, let me know and Ill give you a 1000 bucks. guaranteed pal.
michaelfan86 3 months ago
@michaelfan86 i agree with you on most of what u said except the part where u say he was working on those songs. He wasnt working on those songs at all. The only songs he was considering for a new album was best of joy and hollywood tonight. hold my hand was a song intended for akons album. keep your head up monster and breaking news were supposedly tracks he recorded in eddie cascios home basement? Which mike never mentioned and honestly dont believe he had anything to do with those songs.
Crazycupmuffin 3 months ago
@michaelfan86 Also i like the way you love me was an old track that didnt make the cut for invincible but was released on his ultimate collection in the form of a demo. Another day was also an outtake from the invincible sessions mike loved it but felt it didnt suit the style of the album. Behind the mask was recorded during the thriller sessions mike heard greg phillinganes in the studio and loved it so he recorded it for fun. And finally much too soon was another outtake from thriller sessions
Crazycupmuffin 3 months ago
@michaelfan86 i tottally agree with you, some fans are just impossible to please, THERE IS A REASON they keep the vocals and records (SO THEY CAN BE USED LATER) so i wonder which part you guys don't get or what you really boycott
simbij 2 months ago
he speaketh the truth
charliesheen4life 3 months ago
Wow, i love that i found your videos your a fan that actually gets it, I 'm tottally against anything that the estate puts out too, because not only did MJ not want 2 B associated with Sony or the lawyers that run the estate anymore,their limiting his mom & children access 2 the money it makes as well, & like u also said The records MJ put out when he was alive r the albums he wants his fans 2 hear& there the greastest no DJ can touch that.Great video with great honesty!
dneenlove 3 months ago
@dneenlove thanks for watching and taking the time to leave that comment :)
TJVlogs 3 months ago
@dneenlove umm michael got back together with sony for the Thriller 25 re-release. so how did michael not want to be associated with sony? He wasn't forced, Michael could have gotten into any new record label but he didn't... He chose sony again, only because Tommy Mattolla stepped down as the CEO by that time.
michaelfan86 3 months ago
@michaelfan86 first off, dont try 2 check me because in actuality, we're just fans &we only know what we hear, you wasnt with Mj when he did his business ventures or me,the only ppl that truly know the truth is his family & business associates, if your not either one of those ppl, then your no more wrong or right than i am...Mj fans should support eachother not disrespect & put others down. Michael Jackson doesnt represent that ignorant type of behavior. THANK YOU!
dneenlove 3 months ago
Woah! What happened here? I agree with TJ on ALL points. I just misunderstood you TJ from my first comment towards you. I see you're angry at the Estate.
I truly believe the MJ fanbase will always be divided. Some what to help the Estate to further Michael's legacy; while others are against it since Michael isn't here.
rfalm 3 months ago
@rfalm No No No... you've got it all wrong again.. what's so hard to understand?
I am not angry and against the estate because Michael isn't here. I am angry at the executors because they committed fraud. They released an album with Jason Malachi's vocals, and put Michael's name and face on it.
Of course i want to see Michael's legacy continue to shine... but continually releasing sub-standard shit is not going to do that. The Vision dvd's were terrible. Sure, they had great packaging, but the
TJVlogs 3 months ago
@TJVlogs TJ, I get what you're saying and agree with everything you just said now. (oops and sorry for the misunderstanding AGAIN) I am fan too and follow these things as well.. I'm just as pissed off as you are of what the executors of the Estate have done to Michael's legacy. It seem like everyone is screwing MJ over these days and doesn't care. Michael dealt with these kinds of vultures all of his life....and it makes me sad and helpless to be honest. It's like, what can you do?
rfalm 3 months ago
@TJVlogs Are you pissed at me TJ? I hope not. :( It was all a misunderstanding on my part. If you truly knew me you would understand that I have a hard time reading people. I apologize.
rfalm 3 months ago
@rfalm videos were NOT Remastered like was claimed.. the image quality was even worse than previous dvd releases. - they just slapped whatever copies of the video's they had close-by, put them on a disc, and shipped them in some pretty packaging. - that was not respectful to Michael's legay.... but it made them a lot of quick cash.
And as for the "Michael" album,well, there is no need to go over all that again. the point is, the executors obviously care much more about lining their pockets with
TJVlogs 3 months ago
@rfalm cash than correctly and respectfully representing the legacy and reputation of Michael Jackson.
- I am a FAN. i pay attention to this shit.. and THAT'S why i'm pissed.
Sure, it would be all sweet and fluffy if i just pretended everything is wonderful like a lot of fans do, but that's not me.
My heros legacy is being shat on, and i will not sit back and let them do it without voicing my disgust.
TJVlogs 3 months ago
@TJVlogs And I'm not pretending everything is all wonderful either. I'm literally outraged, like beyond furious about this ordeal, but then again having those emotions isn't going to change anything or wouldn't be good for my health. I've dealt with alot of personal issues and adding my outrage isn't going to make my life any peaceful. I applaud you for voicing your disgust/opinion. You're outspoken and I'm just not that way. I'm more shy.
rfalm 3 months ago
I agree with you, Tj. Honestly, whatever it comes after June 25th, 2009 is all about money... And being $ony Fony involved.. it's just continued exploitation!
frogsie 3 months ago
@TJVlogs I am angry at you, same as any other loayl fan, what you call boycotting does not have a real reasons that is why you are doomed to fail i explain my self 1.You take your time and make a video saying UNFINISHED SONGS as if you are a genius in music production, let me ask you, do you think THE ESTATE you seem to hate so much should just burn those songs just because they were not finished by the King himself? tell us what you think should be done with every product that MJ never finished
simbij 3 months ago
@simbij if his work was UNFINISHED, that means it shouldn't be released.
If someone found a vault of unfinished Picasso paintings, and then splashed on some more paint till it looked satisfactory in his eyes, and then released it as a "Picasso", is that ok? No!
Of course i want to hear more of Michael's music.. but he's gone. He's not here to create music anymore... Adding new beats, instruments, and VOCALS to something Michael hadn't finished working on is NOT the same thing.
TJVlogs 3 months ago 4
@TJVlogs "If someone found a vault of unfinished Picasso paintings, and then splashed on some more paint till it looked satisfactory in his eyes, and then released it as a "Picasso", is that ok? No!"
Very well put TJ!...I do like extended versions thought where you can usually hear a break down of the original music, but sometimes remixes can be good, like "Stranger In Moscow (Tee's Light A/C Mix)" and "You Are Not Alone(Jon B. Padappella Mix)", those are just great.
heythanksbutnothanks 3 months ago
@TJVlogs exactly dude. My initial thoughts when they said they were releasing an album of material he didnt get to finish was one like they did with the beatles anthology albums were we would here all the demos and incompleted tracks the way he left them like a double album with 30 or 40 songs that would have been the ideal album instead of trying to fuck with the songs leave them the way they were and let us hear the original versions.
Crazycupmuffin 3 months ago
THE KING!
stefania12123 3 months ago
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stefania12123 3 months ago
Michael was a professional, and he used the best, he was the ... miracle and this miracle is now with him! Sony and company, do not have the gene, and Michael will not never representing! are not using the heart, using the avidity! immortal and this is the confirmation! this is it! Michael R.I.P. I'll look at your original videos, listen to your songs, your concerts, your interviews, listen to your messages and remember who you were and always will be,
stefania12123 3 months ago
I think what I've heard of Immortal is good and I will buy it because I love anything of Michael and sadly there isn't going to be any more. What I really, really hate the thought of is this trashy biopic that the estate is talking about. I'm part of the release The Victory Tour campaign on here. If anyone wants the petition address please contact me. That's what the estate should be doing, releasing Michael's & The Jacksons remastered tours.
kindofblue21 3 months ago
Much love to you TJ, :) I apologize for saying that you're always bitter. My feeling got in the way, and I didn't mean to attack you. Hope you don't hold it against me. I'm truly sorry.
rfalm 3 months ago
I get what you're saying TJ, the Estate ruined everything with the Michael album/fake vocals. I was pissed off and angry about the whole ordeal. (Still am) It makes feel extremely sad because Michael has been screwed over so many times in his life by so many vultures and I just thought it would NEVER come to THIS (messing with his music) and passing it on as Michael Jackson album when it's not.....
rfalm 3 months ago
I find TII and the "Michael" album the same thing. Michael was working for a comeback concert series but he died and the concert didn't take place, so the Estate approves for the documentary to be released without MJ's approval.
The Michael album had some songs MJ was working on but not completed but the Estate released it anyway without MJ's approval.
MJ was a very highly private person and an extreme perfectionist, so I do believe he wouldn't want TII to be released for us to see...
rfalm 3 months ago
Wow, you're always bitter TJ. That's the whole point of having an Estate, to bring in money. You didn't seem to have a problem in watching This Is It. Michael didn't give the ok to release that now did he (since he was dead) but you still watched anyways, and praised Kenny Ortega to high heavens for it.
rfalm 3 months ago
@rfalm perhaps ur not familiar with timeline of post-death MJ releases.Let me fill you in:
TII was released in 2009,over a year before the estate released that "Michael" album featuring the vocals of another singer
TII was only months after Michaels death.Kenny Ortega & others worked hard to get it finished quickly.& it helped a lot of fans get closure & to say goodbye
TII showed us Michael & what he was working on
The 'Michael' album showed us what the estate are capable of
Not the same thing
TJVlogs 3 months ago
@TJVlogs That's very true TJ, I am a HUGE hardcore Michael Jackson fan but Michael didn't approve the release of This Is It, the documentary.
rfalm 3 months ago
@rfalm and i am not always fucking bitter, by the way.
But what the MJ estate did last year is completely unforgivable. Michael worked his entire life at QUALITY, TIMELESS music. The estate have absolutely no regard for his legacy or reputation. They've shown us they are capable even of fraud in order to make a buck.
Yes i enjoyed, and praised THIS IS IT.. but that was in 2009, over a year before we knew how evil the estate are.
TJVlogs 3 months ago
@TJVlogs I agree with you TJ, I truly do, regarding this issue. :)
rfalm 3 months ago
@TJVlogs but the way you say it is like you were with MJ and you know for a fact he never recorded those songs? if he passed before 2001 i know ppl like you would have been talkin that cr** for songs like 2000 watts, tell me any difference between Breaking news and 2000 watts, anyway we all have our ways of appreciating but i've seen MJs handwritting for songs like BEST OF JOY so i'd rather believe that than believing you...just open your eyes and stop misleading fans it is dividing us seriously
simbij 3 months ago
@simbij I'mm not dividing the fans.The estate did that.MY eyes are wide open.
I know u wish everything was perfect & Michael's art was being respected, & his fans were all living in harmony,but unfortunately, that's not the way it is, & i know you wanna blame someone,but it's not my fault.
All i am guilty of is speaking the truth.Sure, the estate would like us to all shut up & eat the bullshit they feed us,but i can't do that.
Michael's legacy has been tarnished, & they're getting away with it.
TJVlogs 3 months ago
@simbij As you said, you've seen MJ's handwritting for songs like Best Of Joy, we've heard a demo snippet of Hollywood Tonight with MJ talking about the bridge of the song, etc. Have you seen any handwritten lyrics or notes by MJ for even one of the Cascio tracks? Any evidence at all, besides the letter from the estate's attorney, that MJ sang the lead vocals of those songs? Of course not. Have you heard all 12 songs? I have and most are cheap imitations of true MJ songs. He didn't copy himself.
4evermjacksonfan 3 months ago
@4evermjacksonfan why would a record company who has access to hundreds of michael's unreleased songs, use another singer??? Do you know how dumb that sounds? Don't make judgements until you know the whole story, The estate has always had michael's interest at heart. Why do you all jump to conclusions just because it doesn't sound like michael? Michael has always been able to disguise his voice, and manipulate it, have you thought of that conclusion yet?
michaelfan86 3 months ago
@michaelfan86 The estate don't have the ability to freely release all those genuine unreleased tracks without the consent of the producers and writers who worked on them with him. Notice that the Michael album didn't include any Will.i.am, RedOne, or Rodney Jerkins tracks? Those guys refused to let the estate release the tracks they worked on with MJ. The estate needed 'hit worthy' tracks for the album, and foolishly thought that nobody would notice if they used Malachi to sing on a few tracks.
TJVlogs 3 months ago
@michaelfan86 I see that you don't understand why we're against the estate. Have you ever looked at Michael's will online? If not, I highly suggest that you do a google search for it. Look it over from top to bottom. There are several key errors in that will that to many of us including members of Michael's family indicates that it is a forged will. All of his kids names are wrong in some manner, Debbie Rowe's middle name is misspelled and it says he signed the will in LA when he was in NY.
4evermjacksonfan 3 months ago
@4evermjacksonfan I can see you don't understand either... it is NOT a forged will, and that is against the law...you don't know what you're talking about and if that were so, then where is the proof? Why isn't anyone doing anything about it? People spell names wrong all the time, My name is misspelled on my Driver license, no body cares...The will online is not the real will that is safely in the hands of the executors.. you should know not to trust the internet completely.
michaelfan86 3 months ago
I did want to see that show but couldn't. I will not buy this cd & I didn't buy the last one either. I think it's a shame what they are doing. I know albums will always be made from the people that are no longer with us but they better be approved by family & be tasteful. Know what I mean? I have heard little bits of this album & didn't like what I heard. Sounds like they just threw whatever together 2 make money. MJ knew how 2 make his songs into mixes & 2 me these songs didn't do him justice.
tjt072 3 months ago
I did not know about the Immortal album, so thanks again for your informative video :), but I am just the same, I never even bought the Michael album, I just searched on youtube and heard the tracks that were supposed to be new ones, I was positive not all the singing was Michael, and felt that was Sony's last laugh at MJ, because Sony knew he hated them. I searched, yes Immortal seems to have all the songs as "Immortal mixes", and all look like medleys, the CD isn't out yet here.
heythanksbutnothanks 3 months ago
I have broken ALL of my Michael Jackson albums. Thriller, scratched, Bad broke, History Broke, Blod on the dancefloor, scratched, Invicible playable, I'm looking to buy an album again so I may buy this one. I suspect that a lot of the releases are geared toward non fans who are just discovering him. There are a lot of families who will see this show who don't own what we fans own and this will be great for them. I don't care for the executors but ANYTHING that makes MJ's estate beat Elvis...
bigbigmjfan 3 months ago
FK BRANCA!! SONY, AND "THEIR" BULLSHIT PRODUCTS!
TaajMalik 3 months ago 4
@TaajMalik yeah, this is not a "Michael Jackson Album" - It's an "MJ Estate Album"
BIG Difference.
TJVlogs 3 months ago
I have been a Michael Jackson fan for 40 years..I enjoy the Jackson 5 - The Jacksons - Michael's singles and all of the the other albums...I read the Michael himself was participating in the mixes of The Stranger of Moscow, Blood on the Dance Floor and Ghost...In The HIStory and Ghost release albums which didn't sell well here in the US, I don't know how it did in the UK. I don't want to buy this new Immortal CD. But I certanly will go to see the show when Cirque du Soleil comes to my city.
23Nefertari 3 months ago
I always enjoy your reviews as 99% of the time you express exactly what I think. I find it desperately sad/angry/bitter that "Jackson Inc" are cashing in on his legacy. Michael had a huge talent honed by his meticulous attention to detail about everything he released or performed. I bet the poor guy is turning in his grave right now.
10CPhil 3 months ago
@10CPhil well said. thank you.
TJVlogs 3 months ago
Hey TJ. Just wanted to say how much I admire your objectivity. Even in the things you are truly passionate about you have no problem saying "it Sucked" Hope you have a great day . :)
LeggITboy 3 months ago
@LeggITboy thanks honey, that's sweet.
You enjoy your day too :)
TJVlogs 3 months ago
I'm really 'meh' about this Immortal CD lol. I probably will get it for my collection but it is the same songs we have heard before.
JasonAWMaidstone 3 months ago
@JasonAWMaidstone yep. same crap, different packaging. - $ony + The MJEstate = Money Making Machine.
TJVlogs 3 months ago
I agree, it's okay.. But nothing that will blow you away. It all sounded good at the cirque show with the visual of it all but we don't need anymore MJ remixes. And now I don't feel so bad about still being bitter about the p.o.s. Cascio tracks! I always seem to agree with you. :)
LittleLJ22 3 months ago
@LittleLJ22 you should never feel bad about having bitter feelings towards the MJEstate for what they did last year. They tried hard to silence the fans, and succeeded in most cases unfortunately, but i will not be pacified. They are supposed to represent Michael, but instead they pissed on his legacy.
i used to buy absolutely anything and everything MJ related.. all the MJ Greatest Hits albums $ony put out.. all of it.. but the MJEstate won't get another cent out of me.
TJVlogs 3 months ago 4
@TJVlogs I totally agree with you TJ. When "Breaking News" came out last year, I was gutted at first, then pissed off beyond belief cause I knew immediately those were not MJ's vocals.
rfalm 3 months ago
You did shock me with that album rreview .
wachtower100 3 months ago
@wachtower100 Yeah, what the MJ Estate did last year is completely unforgivable, and try as they may to silence the fans from speaking against it, i will never stop.
Michael Jackson worked his entire life on QUALITY music, not large quantities of sub-par horse shit.
TJVlogs 3 months ago 4
@TJVlogs TJ I just love your comments, you have a way with words. I'm amused. You always makes me laugh. lol
:)
rfalm 3 months ago