1/28/12 - Occupy Oakland March becomes violent after Police Engage Crowds

[wvtvshow]

Hey numnutts we are in your town. We teach your children. We live in your neighborhood and we are in you family. We are all around you. You stand with the few and we are the 99%. Soon your hate will consume and destroy you. The people are awakening while you sleep through the new begging. Don't blame us blame yourself. Don't call us un American because we care enough to fix and rebuild our country. Most of all don't threaten us. We are the 99% and we have already landed on your ass.

[nuxnutts]

Freedom is NOT terrorizing the street and neighbor hoods, You ppl are morons, Maybe you should quit electing globalist corrupt politicians, So how many of you morons voted for the negro, the bush's, central bank, Bring your dumb ass to my town and try that shit, destroying ppl's property,burning American flags, and we will see if it is a rubber bullet that lands in your ass.

[alien2e0oid]

mmpeleg is a government spy, try to ignore him/her, or maybe a bit of each.

[mmpeleg]

@alien2e0oid I'm not a government spy, I'm a patriot and a proud American. I'm also not a cop, but I am going to college to be one. From someone with experience on "the otherside". I'm going to say this, Soldiers and Police take an oath to protect you. They are willing to give their lives to do it, I am too even though I don't know you and I strongly disagree with you. Although I am willing to protect you, I'll pick up a brick and beat your face in without hesitation to protect others if needed.

[mmpeleg]

@alien2e0oid Peaceful protesting means you don't interfere with other people's lives or break laws. They are doing both.

[JonathanSeagullUtube]

@mmpeleg Peaceful means you can protest criminal behavior WITHOUT shooting at people. Criminal behavior means to interfere with other people's right to protest unfairness. Criminal behavior means perpetrating violence on non-violent protesters. The po LICE are doing both...

[salimian]

i would expect something like this to be viral

[stchaltin]

"Hey, let's go cross this line the police tell us not to and then call it police brutality when they stop us."

[HengistTheGreat]

'nuff respect to the protesters. Go OO!

[Goddamnit169]

are the prostesters unemployed? Many of them were thrown in jail. Does this mean their bosses wait for them to get out? i do have respect for these people and find it very risky and it's war. the cops think it's a joke. but they are nothing but brainwashed idiots. there are big problems in the world and they start within. fix your home first. stop blaming. we are all responsible for this mess.

[jasonottthetroll]

this is the year that we take back our country or die trying......God bless what is left of the USA

[TheNocheazul]

cnn doesn't show this , why? think for yourself

[cojoe182]

those protesters are assembling like an army, with sheilds, throwing stuf at the police, surley you can not blame the police for the violence? on the other hand at tthe start the police were bang out of order, although they tend to only show when the police do the violence and the protesters are peacefull, they edit oput the opposite parts.

[gnidich2000]

@cojoe182 educate yourself..

[cojoe182]

@gnidich2000 educate my self on what? im 14 and from scotland, sorry if i dont know the low-downs on the situation, i was just asking if this was propoganda or just evidence

[alien2e0oid]

Cowards hiding behind their uniforms and office, shooting, gassing, bombing, innocent, unarmed civilians. Know thine enemy. Photograph/film them. Know their whereabouts. Track them to their homes. publish photographs/addresses. Issue wanted posters. Why should the fear be one sided? Why should the pain be one sided? If their kids/parents/families, were there, in danger, would they be as bold? I think not. If you put them there, maybe the pigs would back off, maybe. BULLIES beat up on the weak..

[mmpeleg]

@alien2e0oid "...shooting, gassing, bombing, innocent unarmed civilians..." guess what, I'm unarmed, but I probably could still kill you easily. now think as if you were outnumbered 20 to 1.

[JonathanSeagullUtube]

@mmpeleg What is the point of defending the "representatives" in government who only represent the rich? How much do YOU get paid to be a thug to perpetrate violence on untrained, unarmed civilians protesting unfairness? Some cops would die for us. I would not want to be in a position of oppressor: I would break ranks & provide tactical info to the protesters. now think as if you were unarmed and hit with a rubber bullet to the head, because you where attending to an injured person.

[mmpeleg]

@JonathanSeagullUtube What you are protesting is Capitalism. Capitalism brings everyone into prosperity, without the rich everyone suffers and is poor(er). I will defend the rich, for the most part, they earned it. These protesters are not unarmed they often have weapons such as rocks or sticks they also are weapons in themselves since they outnumber police. It's also illegal to protest in the streets. It's not about oppression, it's about stopping an illegal activity before someone gets hurt.

[JonathanSeagullUtube]

@mmpeleg "prosperity?" the rich become so at the peril of the poor. the rich make 'interest' off of the little people who have to borrow money. In ANY financial transaction, someone 'gains' money, and someone else has less. Are you suggesting that the tiny fraction of protesters who carry a stick or pick up a rock is any match for the riot gear & weapons the po lice have? Ask yourself, what exactly are the po lice defending? you tube search Zeitgeist.

[mlgnerd13]

@mmpeleg What are sticks, rocks, and numbers against tear gas and rubber bullets? Stopping it before someone gets hurt? No one got hurt until the police attacked

[mmpeleg]

@mlgnerd13 You have never been in that situation man, don't talk about it.

[mlgnerd13]

@mmpeleg What situation? Remember how this started? People were attacked and pepper sprayed for no reason

[mmpeleg]

@mlgnerd13 I think you are having trouble remembering how it did actually start. It started as a few people protesting legally. Until many more showed up and started blocking the streets (illegal) and protesting on government property without permission (illegal). Then refusing lawful police orders to not do those things (illegal). When the police showed up in riot gear to force them to obey the law, the protesters started to form mobs and attack the police (as you can clearly see in the video).

[mlgnerd13]

@mmpeleg not oakland, Occupy Wall Street

[mmpeleg]

@mlgnerd13 When the police were being attacked (illegal) with thrown objects, the mob was moving toward the police in a threatening manner and again refusing lawful police orders to back down and stop attacking police. The police fired tear gas, stun grenades, and rubber bullets into the crowd to cause panic (disorganization), fear (willingness to comply with orders), and pain complience. The police were forced to do that to prevent personal injury and injury to others.

[mmpeleg]

@mlgnerd13 Bitch about the government all you want, don't bitch about the police for protecting others and enforcing fair and constitutionally legal laws.

[mmpeleg]

@mlgnerd13 It is YOUR right to bitch or talk about whatever you want. I am willing to defend that. I just disagree with it.

[mmpeleg]

@JonathanSeagullUtube As for the rubber bullet question, I wouldn't be involved in this protest in the first place. Do you know that the police give you medical care if you are injured? Yes, people get killed, but that's the crowds fault not the police. The police have no other option but to use forceful tactics to keep the crowd under control before rioting occurs and dozens are injured or killed. It's about protecting a greater number of people by injuring a few. Like killing a school shooter.

[JonathanSeagullUtube]

@mmpeleg "It's about protecting a greater number of people by injuring a few." thats the same logic used to invade Iraq & Afghanistan, the result: about a million CIVILIANS murdered by US (& Canadian etc) troops. The police have no other option other then perpetrating violence? then maybe the po lice are in for an extreme wake up call...

[JonathanSeagullUtube]

@mmpeleg Did YOU see any protesters "with sticks or stones" in the video? I saw several exploding projectiles shot into the crowd by po lice...

[mlgnerd13]

@JonathanSeagullUtube It's no use. Some people are just too ignorant to see the country is falling apart.

[mmpeleg]

@JonathanSeagullUtube Starting at 2:31 I can clearly see a guy throwing objects at police and many others holding weapons. The US never killed "millions" of civilians, in war civilians die by accident; we DO NOT target civilians, we however saved "millions". The rich provide you with jobs. Without the rich, you wouldn't have your job nor would anyone else.

[mmpeleg]

@mmpeleg that was also just the first random click on the time bar. I'm sure there was many more examples before that.

[JonathanSeagullUtube]

@mmpeleg at 2:31 I can clearly see a guy throwing an object BACK to the po LICE.

The investigation by Rolling Stone also revealed how: * Troops shot dead civilians and tried to cover their tracks; * U.S. soldiers hacked off part of a dead man's skull; * Soldiers cheered as they filmed a U.S. airstrike blowing up two Afghan civilians; * A video showed two Afghans on a motorcycle being gunned down.

I am self employed. I can live very well without the 'rich' banksters...

[mmpeleg]

@JonathanSeagullUtube That's one example, it still is illegal and assault on a police officer. Look at what the liberal mainstream media does to you. They only tell the few bad things over the course of the whole war. Only the stuff from the few fucked up people in the military. They don't ever talk about the good stuff, you guys are so ignorant to it. This is what it is actually like : watch?v=m1jD7v2ucBc stop looking at the 1 bad story out of 10,000 good ones.

[JonathanSeagullUtube]

@mmpeleg from " unknownnewsdotnet ":  Total killed in Iraq 900,338 Total injured in Iraq 1,690,903

About 303 times as many people have been killed in Afghanistan and Iraq than in the ghastly attacks of September 11, 2001. More than 130 times as many people have been killed in these wars and occupations than in all terrorist attacks in the world from 1993-2004, according to data compiled by the US State Department. Afghan civilian deaths, 2007-2010: 9759

[JonathanSeagullUtube]

@mmpeleg In war, civilians are murdered. A soldiers "rule of engagement" is to kill people. You claim 'we however saved "millions" ' really, how? Give me proof...

[mmpeleg]

@JonathanSeagullUtube I'm not gonna bother looking up stats for Afghanistan. From Iraqi Body Count: the stats don't translate well since it is a bar graph. However, the number of Iraqi civilians killed from enemy and unknown forces ("lone wolves") is about 16 TIMES higher than the number killed by the US led coalition (includes allies). This is with the Iraq government (military, police, etc) removed from stats. This makes the verifiable recorded Iraqi civilian death toll 114,413 (Jan 2011).

[JonathanSeagullUtube]

@mmpeleg No reference as to your source, for all I know its made up, or worse a US army friendly web site. Even if it is only 114,413 , the death of these innocent people (and US soldiers) is because rich men want to get richer by stealing resources from other countries. You like to support rich people because they have money? Ask around, I'm sure you can find some rich person who will reward you for 'accidentally killing' Obummer...

[mmpeleg]

@JonathanSeagullUtube I gave you the source; Iraqi Body Count (put the words together and add .org) They get their source from the Iraq Government and WikiLeaks (I hate WikiLeaks). The US never took any of their resources and used them for profit (ie. selling them). The government HAS used them for government use (oil for military vehicles, etc). However, we wouldn't need them for those uses if we weren't in Iraq. So we didn't go there for profit. I do support the rich, they give me jobs.

[JonathanSeagullUtube]

@mmpeleg Small businesses create jobs: the vast majority of jobs created in USA & Canada in the last decade has been by small businesses, not the rich!! ARE YOU SAYING THAT IF IRAQS major import was cabbage that US troops would be there? Hahahaha Are you saying that if Libya had no gold and no oil NATO would be there? LMFAO "So we didn't go there for profit"? Obviously you are NOT a soldier. Obviously you have not researched geopolitical information other than mainstream media...

[JonathanSeagullUtube]

@mmpeleg You like to support rich people because they "give you jobs"? Ask around, I'm sure you can find some rich person who will hire you for 'accidentally killing' Obummer...

[mmpeleg]

@JonathanSeagullUtube You can believe what you want, and what are you trying to prove with the rich people? I'm sure I could, I'm also sure that a poor person would do the same if he had money. Name a time in US history this has happened? Is your logic that they rich control things? Well no shit, it still falls on you to elect the person you want in. So if you pick someone that "hates the poor" that's your problem.

[mmpeleg]

@JonathanSeagullUtube I also am employed by a small business, but the owner is making millions a year. That doesn't make him evil, he is a hard working christian man who started the business and donates a large amount of money to charity. Also, don't talk about the military or my history. I have been involved with the military for over 5 years. I know quite a bit about how it operates.

[JonathanSeagullUtube]

@mmpeleg great, so tell me, why in 2001 Afghanistan provided 5% of the opium/heroin production, now after 10 years after the invasion Afghanistan provides 90%? Can I be a hero for the rich old men who send the young middle class and poor out to kill and be killed ? If I can stand seeing little children (collateral damage) with parts of their faces blown off or little children with heavy wounds to the torso or arms or legs blown off, will I be a good helper for the motherland U S of A?

[JonathanSeagullUtube]

@mmpeleg Making millions does not make anyone evil. Perpetrating war crimes for profit makes a person evil. "don't talk about the military or my history" my real name is Barack Hussein Obama and I do nt want you to murder me like soldiers do to hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. you have the fire power...do nt kill me, Barack Hussein Obama, I dare you...

[mmpeleg]

@JonathanSeagullUtube We are allies with those countries now, so exports and trades will go up. The rich don't send the poor out to kill or be killed, rich people join the military too. I went to basic with someone who was VERY rich. It's about helping our country. The rich also don't send soldiers out to commit crime or war for profit. Your blinded views think that is what is happening. The Iraq war was caused by many things (possibility for WMDs, harboring or terrorists, and murder).

[JonathanSeagullUtube]

@mmpeleg you tube search " Why we fight " & " Iraq for Sale: The War Profiteers "

" Loose Change " & " the corporation: documentary trailer "

[mmpeleg]

@JonathanSeagullUtube I don't think you have seen the videos of the old Iraq government breaking peoples arms and throwing them off buildings. I don't think you have seen the videos of forced children with bomb vests on walking up to soldiers handing out candy, then their dad down the block detonates it. I don't think you have seen the videos of scumbags blowing a bomb up in a market with women and children in them. I saw them during basic, many of my drill sergeants has seen this in real life.

[JonathanSeagullUtube]

@mmpeleg All of the above and more evidence of US etc terrorist propaganda are available on you tube. What the fuck is a solder doing handing out candy? Many drill sargents are retards with good imaginations. Yah scumbags are people who murder civilians with automatic weapons.

[mmpeleg]

@JonathanSeagullUtube You fucking lost your damn mind haven't you? Are you telling me that you didn't know that US Soldiers give food, medical care, and gifts to Iraqi civilians? You also didn't know that they aren't ordered to do that? They are just doing it because they want to help other humans. Have you seen Bowling for Columbine? It's a nice propaganda piece with 100 percent lies from that fat sack of shit Michael Moore. So a documentary isn't going to prove anything to me.

[JonathanSeagullUtube]

@mmpeleg ah so you DO NOT understand important patriotic information contained in (you tube search) " Why we fight " & " Iraq for Sale: The War Profiteers ", " Loose Change " & " the corporation: documentary trailer ". Ignorance is bliss. Documentaries provide information. Murdering 100,000+ Iraq civilians isnt "made better" by giving candies to kids. A murderer is a murderer, no matter how you want to sugar coat it.

[mmpeleg]

@JonathanSeagullUtube I can tell your ignorance over the internet, I done with this argument. Your so ignorant it pisses me off, you take examples from a few and apply it to the other 99.99 percent of people. Most soldiers do just what I said, a very few do fucked up things like you keep thinking all of them do. With that logic I can firmly say and believe that your a necrophiliac who likes raping children and family members. Again, I'm done.

[JonathanSeagullUtube]

@mmpeleg Dude, just so you know, the "rule of engagement" of a soldier is to kill people. Fine if you want to call me ignorant for stating that fact. When you kill people, is called being a murderer.

If you are suggesting that Iraq would have been invaded if their biggest export was broccoli, perhaps you display allegiance to something other than humanity.

[mmpeleg]

@JonathanSeagullUtube If you guys don't like the United States of America, the very country that allows you to say things like this and do what you want. Then get the fuck out, this isn't Soviet Russia. You can leave any time.

[JonathanSeagullUtube]

@mmpeleg You are right, its worse than Soviet Russia. If you dont have 'enough' money, you are NOT free to leave any time. "You can leave any time." LMFAO

[mmpeleg]

@JonathanSeagullUtube What the fuck are you talking about, you don't have to be rich to leave this country. You could be fucking homeless and walk across the border. No one from Immigration and Customs Enforcement will give a damn. Although, I don't know of many people trying to sneak into Mexico. It seems to be the other way around.

[mmpeleg]

@JonathanSeagullUtube I say millions because of the regime that Saddam had was brutal, he executed thousands every year.

[JonathanSeagullUtube]

@mmpeleg Please provide me with links to your claims. Why do you make shit up?

[alien2e0oid]

@mmpeleg I would suggest you read your constitution, something about the right to peaceful protest. You seem as though you're a cop. What do they inoculate you Pigs with to separate your humanity from your uniform? The US is hated all around the world because of the scum that these people are protesting about. Why support them? Support the people. The world will love you for it. Please don't reply, I don't like government snides, which is what you are.

[Anunnaki50]

Got to give credit to these Oaklanders ... they came much well prepared but as usual, the oppressors always win. The US government is slowly building up forces all around the nation as to conduct a surprise attack against all civilians that opose this new world order. This will take place between the month of november and december of this year although things are about to get really heated up this summer !! Mark my words people.

[mmpeleg]

@Anunnaki50 the US isn't building up forces for a new world order, your just retarded.

[Anunnaki50]

@mmpeleg You'll see ..... something drastic is about to happen after august of this year. All government related in the name of power and control.

[mmpeleg]

@Anunnaki50 I was in the US Army, nothing is happening

[Anunnaki50]

@mmpeleg Maybe not in the army - wich I admire and respect you for - but behind close doors, everything in secret .... just like the 500,000 plastic caskets they are piling up in Atlanta and alot more ongoing secretive things. you'll see in time.

[henritje19]

this shit is fucked up.

[boolouwhatstrue2]

This look like a premake plan,or a play of actors.

[djdc20]

This really shows how the police in the states see freedom of speech!!!! Not a single protester charged the line-up of officers, the police ran straight into the peaceful protest and opened fire. every one of the officers can actually be charged under the first and third amendment. If this was in canada they would have been charged and relieved of active duty indefinitely.

[c02pistolman]

NEVER RETREAT! NOTHING IS TRUE EVERYTHING IS PERMITTED!

[c02pistolman]

I can't wait till it happens in the UK again ARMY OF 300 AH_OO

[WhereEaglesDare117]

Can't wait for OPD to finally be allowed to CLEAR YOU MORONS OUT FOR REAL. Fuck the Occupy movement.

[kali4niadazed]

Wait till the police become target practice... I myself can't wait cause some will be killed with the smiles they carry. Fuck these pigs making money on beating you all up and stay peacefull well riots will break out and they will be the fcken ones running and both sides will have deaths but we will come to a compromise or just keep on killing. Cops are used to getting their way the pigs that they are Drag you out accuse u and screw you To do nothing wrong PD's in US are a disgrace to ur country

[jdogsful]

this is the catalyst. this extreme will be cause of the extreme in the opposite direction, which will be freedom. But it would be far more effective of the protesters had a better strategy for overwhelming the police. like if they occupied many different places of importance, all at once. a few hundred at each different location. see what the pigs do then. they'd either take it to far, or run away in fear. both are better than this stalemate.

[FreedomForYouAndMe]

First orders, then pepper spray, then billy clubs, then tear gas, then rubber bullets, then real bullets.....hope you all know where this is going, be safe

[mmpeleg]

@FreedomForYouAndMe They don't understand the escalation of force, they don't understand the dozens of laws they are breaking, they don't understand that is why the police are trying to stop them, they don't understand that if they are not controlled someone will be hurt.

[JonathanSeagullUtube]

@mmpeleg Do you understand (you tube search) " Why we fight " & " Iraq for Sale: The War Profiteers ", " Loose Change " & " the corporation: documentary trailer " ???

[justinml8719]

i dont see why they dont fight back, they get shot and bombed and grenaded and sprayed and run away? id be sending lead back at a certain point

[HumanCompound]

This is not normal at all...

[6095jimmy]

LOL Need more people next time ya know millions of people then what the army well guess thats whats happening next:) p.e.a.c.e isn't always the answer. Good always defeats evil in the end. Abash the devil stood and saw how wicked goodness can be.

[cw71017]

As someone who's been in the S yr1an protests, I applaud these people. When will governments understand that a bit of gas, rubber, steel etc won't shake us down? When will they get the fact that we want change, we want rights and we won't stop until we get it?

[granpasgrave]

we need another American Revolution

[JonathanSeagullUtube]

@granpasgrave One day soon the "crowds" will become organized in such a way that NO amount of po lice armament will provide 'protection from the evil protesters".

[mmpeleg]

@JonathanSeagullUtube Don't jump the gun, don't think that a few protesters are going to get far. You guys aren't protesting corrupt government, because you elect the leaders in the first place. You are protesting capitalism.

[JonathanSeagullUtube]

@mmpeleg electing "representatives" who represent those with the most money is NOT the essence of democracy. part of the protest is protest against oppression of murdering millions of civilians around the world so some rich old men can steal the resources. I am protesting world wide terrorism: a soldiers 'rule of engagement' is to kill people...protesting world wide oppression via paid thugs. Criminals are ones who perpetrate violence...

[gingerjen888]

@granpasgrave We are in a revolution - people are being shot at in the streets by our hired help. Fire the help - impeach them all (or many). Freedom of speech should not be a revolutionary topic - we've traveled full circle in a brief 235 years to a suppressive regime that is poisoning our food, water and air. Oh, and shooting at people in the streets and even in homes (calling 911 has been a deadly choice to make for some citizens).

[zabanadz16]

by continually exporting democracy abroad you risk shortage

[NibbleHusky]

What was the music at the start?

[cr0uchingtiger]

NWO Vs Humanity via the Cops.

[mookixox]

O.W.S hasn't discovered the invention of molotov cocktails yet? Hmmmm maybe when the food stamps run out...

[Will224000]

@mookixox but we do have .50 cal rifles...

[bryanskrantz]

Flashbangs? That's not supposed to be used during crowd control at all!

[PhilippeL91]

Could you tell me what is the music at the beginning ? Thank you in advance

[RollinOverU]

@BCG53 good job. You want a cookie or something?

[DementedPingu]

@RollinOverU  Yes

[tman383]

@RollinOverU I WANT ONE! I had one but the 1% took 99% of my cookie so I got screwed.