Also the last comment before mine just goes to show how many people really went to torahanytime. com and watched the who class and is not going and commenting on an clip!
The hole class in a nut shell is like stars1836 states below. So please before commenting get the hole picture not a little clip!
WOW I can believe I am even sitting here and reading all these comments. If you really are an orthodox Jew you would NEVER come out with Lashon Hara against any one ESPECIALLY a Rabbi is backed by other big rabbis. To use a term "shows how much of an idiot he is" wow how low can you go?? All this just proves his point. I really hope you are a Jew because this is NOT how we represent ourselves.
Some wonder why it's wrong when people are just that way. There are many things we are born with that we need to overcome. Some people have a temper. It might be natural, but we still need to control it. True, homosexual urges are extremely hard to control, but the action wouldn't be forbidden if it's not possible to control. People need emotional support, effort, patience and perseverance and they can overcome and reach their potential
his reference to Virginia shows how much of an idiot he is, as there is no gay marriage there and their laws are specifically anti-gay marriage. why start an earthquake there?
@KajexFiredrake I'm an orthojew,this guy distorts the true orthodox jewish approach from Talmudic times (like r levin). there is no consensus that earthquakes would be caused by gay marriage, and there are no less than 6 random opinions in a non-legal midrash (not halachic gemara) as to possibly why these events do occur (i.e. if we believe in an all-powerful G-d, why on earth would he ingrain such a wild and dangerous occurence to happen in nature, just create a world without tectonic plates).
I'm guessing the reason Judaism took such a tough stance on sexuality was to maximize the population (as you will recall, Abraham's own daughters committed incest to bootstrap the tribe), and also to distinguish themselves from the Greeks and Romans (and other prosperous city-states like Sodom, Gomorrah, and that other place G-d decided to spare) had the practice of f*cking the slaves and youth coming of age. This is very far removed from the SSM debate today.
With this kind of ignorant "logic," one could extrapolate that the "holocaust" was gawd's way of punishing the Jews. For what? Who knows? What a crock of shit this rabbi Wallerstein is. Wallerstein and Pat Robertson should get together to inform the world of the exact intentions of this gawd entity.
And if G-d did send the earthquake and hurricane to punish us for homosexuality, he didn't inflict much damage. Perhaps he is not really that upset about. it. Perhaps G-d is upset at Rabbis for deigning to say why he does things.
Rabbi Wallerstein is way off-base to presume to know what G-d is doing. Pray tell, what was the cause of the Holacaust? What lesson do we learn from it? An interesting thought, in the countries that were the seat of orthodox Jewry (Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland) between 83% and 86% of the pre-war Jewish population were murdered. In Germany, the center of the Haskalah movement, 24%-25% of he pre-war Jewish population were killed. What lesson should we learn from that wise Rabbi.
@jwalter13 - Clearly you are the illiterate product of our public schools with diminished reasoning ability. Read them again. Those chapters discuss God judgments in the form of physical and economic disasters. More and worse as YOU become more rebellious. They don't list every last disaster that God is capable of sending. Use your head for something besides a place to stuff food.
@MaryWaterton FYI, I wasn't raised Catholic, so I'm not the rebellious Catholic punk you think I am. The Old Testament is all about retribution, tough-justice, and a zillion arbitrary rules you can't even shake a stick at. No wonder the Jews have long ago given up on rule following, and are instead focused on liberal morality of sticking up for the socially marginalized.
@nosmopika You know, it always makes me giggle when I hear super-orthodox Jews say things in Hebrew and then English as if the Hebrew mandates more reverence, even when most of them (and nearly all of their audience) cannot speak or understand it in day-to-day speech.
Actually, scratch that. I distinctly remember hearing reform rabbis doing the same thing; although in that case the comment about no one in the audience understanding it goes double.
@nosmopika Written 1500 years ago and it really gays that gay people have the natural power to command the Earth to shake? If that's part of the gay agenda then I WANT me some of that action.
Also the last comment before mine just goes to show how many people really went to torahanytime. com and watched the who class and is not going and commenting on an clip!
The hole class in a nut shell is like stars1836 states below. So please before commenting get the hole picture not a little clip!
coolbenz123 1 month ago
WOW I can believe I am even sitting here and reading all these comments. If you really are an orthodox Jew you would NEVER come out with Lashon Hara against any one ESPECIALLY a Rabbi is backed by other big rabbis. To use a term "shows how much of an idiot he is" wow how low can you go?? All this just proves his point. I really hope you are a Jew because this is NOT how we represent ourselves.
coolbenz123 1 month ago
Some wonder why it's wrong when people are just that way. There are many things we are born with that we need to overcome. Some people have a temper. It might be natural, but we still need to control it. True, homosexual urges are extremely hard to control, but the action wouldn't be forbidden if it's not possible to control. People need emotional support, effort, patience and perseverance and they can overcome and reach their potential
stars1836 2 months ago
his reference to Virginia shows how much of an idiot he is, as there is no gay marriage there and their laws are specifically anti-gay marriage. why start an earthquake there?
meirtraube 2 months ago
@drrjtco I don't know. Why do you?
TheSaneJew 4 months ago
This stupid fuck needs to learn himself about plate tectonics.
KajexFiredrake 5 months ago
@KajexFiredrake I'm an orthojew,this guy distorts the true orthodox jewish approach from Talmudic times (like r levin). there is no consensus that earthquakes would be caused by gay marriage, and there are no less than 6 random opinions in a non-legal midrash (not halachic gemara) as to possibly why these events do occur (i.e. if we believe in an all-powerful G-d, why on earth would he ingrain such a wild and dangerous occurence to happen in nature, just create a world without tectonic plates).
meirtraube 2 months ago
I'm guessing the reason Judaism took such a tough stance on sexuality was to maximize the population (as you will recall, Abraham's own daughters committed incest to bootstrap the tribe), and also to distinguish themselves from the Greeks and Romans (and other prosperous city-states like Sodom, Gomorrah, and that other place G-d decided to spare) had the practice of f*cking the slaves and youth coming of age. This is very far removed from the SSM debate today.
jwalter13 5 months ago
yeah and the world is flat and dinosaurs are 6000 years old. Geology must be porn to all gay men ;P
ShakespeareAvenue 5 months ago
With this kind of ignorant "logic," one could extrapolate that the "holocaust" was gawd's way of punishing the Jews. For what? Who knows? What a crock of shit this rabbi Wallerstein is. Wallerstein and Pat Robertson should get together to inform the world of the exact intentions of this gawd entity.
RELIGION IS THE BANE OF THE HUMAN RACE.
policechaser 5 months ago
And if G-d did send the earthquake and hurricane to punish us for homosexuality, he didn't inflict much damage. Perhaps he is not really that upset about. it. Perhaps G-d is upset at Rabbis for deigning to say why he does things.
TheSaneJew 5 months ago
Rabbi Wallerstein is way off-base to presume to know what G-d is doing. Pray tell, what was the cause of the Holacaust? What lesson do we learn from it? An interesting thought, in the countries that were the seat of orthodox Jewry (Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland) between 83% and 86% of the pre-war Jewish population were murdered. In Germany, the center of the Haskalah movement, 24%-25% of he pre-war Jewish population were killed. What lesson should we learn from that wise Rabbi.
TheSaneJew 5 months ago
@TheSaneJew Why do leftists hate the Torah so much?
drrjtco 5 months ago
Rabbi Wallerstein is 100% correct! God sent both the earthquake and the hurricane. It comes right off the pages of Leviticus 26 and Deuteronomy 28.
MaryWaterton 5 months ago
@MaryWaterton Hope you aren't eating shellfish! Wearing mixed fibers! Watching football! You in trouble.
menyc2 5 months ago
@MaryWaterton Lying about the Holy Bible, are we Mary? I checked both references. Not to many "Hurricanes" hitting the land of Israel either.
jwalter13 5 months ago
@jwalter13 - Clearly you are the illiterate product of our public schools with diminished reasoning ability. Read them again. Those chapters discuss God judgments in the form of physical and economic disasters. More and worse as YOU become more rebellious. They don't list every last disaster that God is capable of sending. Use your head for something besides a place to stuff food.
MaryWaterton 5 months ago
@MaryWaterton FYI, I wasn't raised Catholic, so I'm not the rebellious Catholic punk you think I am. The Old Testament is all about retribution, tough-justice, and a zillion arbitrary rules you can't even shake a stick at. No wonder the Jews have long ago given up on rule following, and are instead focused on liberal morality of sticking up for the socially marginalized.
jwalter13 5 months ago
Oy vey
drunkinneworleans 5 months ago
He's reading from the talmud yerushalmi a book written over 1,500 years ago.
nosmopika 5 months ago
@nosmopika You know, it always makes me giggle when I hear super-orthodox Jews say things in Hebrew and then English as if the Hebrew mandates more reverence, even when most of them (and nearly all of their audience) cannot speak or understand it in day-to-day speech.
Actually, scratch that. I distinctly remember hearing reform rabbis doing the same thing; although in that case the comment about no one in the audience understanding it goes double.
FangFiftyFive 5 months ago
@nosmopika Written 1500 years ago and it really gays that gay people have the natural power to command the Earth to shake? If that's part of the gay agenda then I WANT me some of that action.
usorthem3 5 months ago