Olympic Torch London Pro Tibet Protesters meet Chinese

[Butla93]

I've seen that bay horse with the large blaze before

[monkeyboyn25]

democracy allows people to protest, yet it needs the help of the police to keep this protest democratic and not violent. it's so ironic how democracy needs force to be democratic. more like democrazy!!!!

[otuzniak]

Fuck democrazy!

Long Live China!

[grysjay]

not our problem with tibet really, just doing their job

[mrjamest2000]

Absolutely.

[chillichris888]

what can those protesters do? over a billion people is saying that tibet should always be a part of china, and it's none of their business either tibet is free or not. life in tibet has improved alot since communist took over them from the nasty dalai lama, average lifespan increased from 35 tp 67 years.

[chillichris888]

learn more about history of china and tibet befor you protest. tibet has been a part of china for over 1000 years. westerners invaded us and caused us to fall a part. when we put the broken pieces back together. you yelled it was an invasion free tibet.

[devilsoe]

they don't even know what is tibet look like and what..... they dare to shout free tibet! how touching..... i feel crying...........

[mahakalatom]

how should you know what they know! you don't know! cry as much as you can!

[wooduser2006]

London has no ability to host 2012 olympic.. What a Shame on London Security Force..can't even do the job right..lol...Shame on Dalai Lama - don't talk about peace when Tibet had the worst slavery system when you were there.. Why don't you tell the world how you Lama Monks treated people in tibet??? This is a violent religion so don't talk about peace everyday when you are not even doing it.

[mahakalatom]

You don't know anything about buddhism! If you would knew only a little you wouldn't say that buddhism is "a violent religion". Eat rice and feel free!

[mrjamest2000]

"Violent religion" - You are an idiot, there are many forms of Buddhism.

[evomid]

Ohoh, you started the discussion, and you now ended it without a polite attitude. Tell you what, I am not what you say of a secret worker. I am just telling you, if you and your so-called "tibet" supporter try to ruin our peaceful and joyful Olympics we will respond to this. Because in most of Chinese ppl mind, our country although has a lot of problems, but we are more freer and better country.

[evomid]

Our chinese media is much better then BBC CNN at least they are much better. You never know we actually have a lot of things can be discussed. You dunno our country. You dunno whats the real meaning of human rights, one of the definition is ppl should not to suppress other nations using any excuses.

[mahakalatom]

Why do you spam here and post the same comments serveral times?

I wonder how you know so much about me (where I live, what I know or don't know, wich media I look, etc). Maybe you know all because you are such a great Chinese or your secret service has done a good work! :-)

But I'll be at work today and have no time for discussion!

[mahakalatom]

Maybe you are right! A black screen could be better than BBC or CNN!

[evomid]

Our chinese media is much better then BBC CNN at least they are much better. You never know we actually have a lot of things can be discussed. You dunno our country. You dunno whats the real meaning of human rights, one of the definition is ppl should not to suppress other nations using any excuses.

[evomid]

Yeah. Chinese Style? I have to tell you, you are not in China, and you dunno how China had improved in human rights. We support our goverment. And We will not accept any one who try to think they are better then force us to follow them.

[mahakalatom]

I agree: " And We will not accept any one who try to think they are better.." Read the newspapers today: All foreign students in China are kicked out for the olympic games! Maybe because you want to have a very open discussion in you land!

haha

[evomid]

Well, I think you maybe a bit over on this issue, All foreign students in China is welcome for the Olympics, we are welcome you as well. As a real normal Chinese :) I forgive your misunderstanding before as you never been to China. Let me see where have you get this news from, buddy?

[mahakalatom]

Be patient my friend! I try to redirect the discussion because youtube is not runnig like I want on my computer. Youtube posts the comments at the wrong destination or post it 2 times what does't make any sense!

But if you want to get out of the dicussion, feel free! It's your way of live you are a Chinese! :-)) (Or be patient and let us discuss tomorrow :-)

[evomid]

If you accept that Tibet is part of China, yes we can talk. Of course. But I still need to work..haha

[mahakalatom]

First I've to accept you point of view and then you want to discuss? That's really chinese style! haha

[evomid]

:) My last word in here, you seems stubborn and simply didnt know much about China. But well, not just me, I think not long later, there would be another Chinese, or African, or even Arabics maybe would go on to teach u more.

[evomid]

I think I fully understand your concerns, but Peace and Love is not just saying as a slogan, but do more, just like we Chinese, and our government had helped me in a lot of aspect, given us a lot and more freedom then before, u only know the point of view of western world, but you not just understand you, but also the chinese's point of view.

[evomid]

Why you have to force me to accept your pt of view? I cant feel that you love Chinese people.

[evomid]

First of all, okay, think more, Assuming, Dala Lama is a good man, with a good heart, then why the website of his oversea government backed by US government is full of independence content? cover the fact of Slavery policy of his legitimacy goverment? and many other facts? I tell what, people surround him is not good, BTW religious is not good if its corelated with politics. History tells us.

[evomid]

At first, you are not Chinese, you have no rights to intervene China's interior affairs, because what you are doing is actually trying to divide our nation. you never know, as you are not in China, you never know the great changes in China. So I have many proof that China is a much freer nation then before.

[mahakalatom]

At first you are no European and you have no right to judge what's going on in Europe! Is it that what you mean?

[evomid]

Beijing Olympics are All Chinese wishes, then now you try to ruin this (Although you will never success), and ruin the Olympic spirit, Peace, ruin friendship of people between Britain and China. But majority of people understand, and support us.

[evomid]

If you have been in Tibet, actually people have freedom of religious, Tibet is free, at least freer then those slavery time, no Tibetan want to get back to those period dumb. And China has its own system towards a better world, has its own system towards a democratic world which will have fewer conflicts then western world.

[mahakalatom]

I don't know what you mean with free?! Are they allowed to have a picture of the dalai lama? Are they allowed to have as many monks as they want or does China control the number of max monks? Was the press free in the last weeks to move everywhere in Tibet? Can you see in China all pages in internet and all media or do the tvs going out in hotels when a report about Tibet is coming??

And is it a democratic style to kill the studentens some years ago by rolling tanks over them...

[evomid]

Western world is just not as perfect as I thought. BTW we have lots of friends around the world, esp developing world, they understand us, and we chinese understand ourselves, so we ll stand by everywhere to fight against you. long live CHINA, long live PEACE and LOVE

[mahakalatom]

Nobody said that everything is o.k. in western world. A lot of things are going wrong there. But there is also something going wrong in China! Nobody really want's to divide China!

The dalai lama said that he wants the olmpic games for China! And he also said, that he don't want to seperate Tibet from China! The only think we want is: Human rights for Tibet! That means free press, free religion, etc.!

Peace and Love for you all!

[evomid]

You think you are democracy, but I dun think so, becoz you didnt ask 1.4 billion Chinese, and you even didnt ask the Tibetans Chinese in Tibet, so early to make a statement that you think I would persuade by that? Think more.

[mahakalatom]

How should I ask 1.4 billion Chinese? I would need a lot of reincarnations for that! :-) But I meet a lot of tibetan people who escaped from tibet and discussed with them!

[wooduser2006]

those people were part of Dalai Lama group who used to live in a very prestige life and all others were slaves, of course they want to get those back....

Have you been to Tibet and talk to ordinary people there???? ASk them the slavery system there in the past when Monks in charge of all decisions....

[mahakalatom]

Better monks takes the decisions than chinese people! I tried to visit Tibet, but the chinese don't give me a visa! I would be a great improvement if western people could travel free to Tibet and ask what's going on!

[google2com]

to makakalatom:

you mean monks who know nothing about economic, health care, school system???

[evomid]

Melbourne and Sydney around 12000 ppl protest, Ottawa around 6000 ppl protest, SanFrancisco around 6000 ppl protest, and Edinburg, and Barcelona, many many Chinese is now finally stand up against people who try to divide our country and the wrong concept of China's human right issue, we will fight for Tibetan Chinese's future, dont want Tibet to be another Iraq or Afghanistan.

[mahakalatom]

12000 ppl from 1.4 billion like you say?! That means: 1.4 billion = 100%, 12.000 ppl =0.00085%! 0.00085 % is nearly nothing=0! So nobody from the chinese people has been there!

haha :-)

[evomid]

:) its great that you understand a bit of Chinese mind now. I can tell you more.

[evomid]

oh maybe your calculation is a bit wrong, I think you dunno actually in Tibet, normal trips will be opened again later, now people go to main street to buy clothes and neccessities. BTW I saw another good news saying in South America, Africa and Asia has a lot of celebration on the torch relay. Well, BBC, CNN didnt tell you that? :P no wonder.

[leachyau]

Human rigths abuses are ripe in China. China supporters have been decieved by your ruling government. If China is so great why is there a media black out on Tibet. I say Boycott the games and let china have thier own fun. The Dalaih Lama is a wise peaceful man and would never insight violance, its agianst his Religion. Pro Chinese supporters are either blind or worse racist scum much like that of Nazi germany. I hope its the first

[diuleeseafood]

This is a war between the east and the west,,i hope the third world war comes as soon as possible..talk is cheap, bring it on barbarians!!!!

[kingedoftheworld]

Free Cuba, free Quebec, free Iraq, Free Afagan. free the native Indians, free the terriosts, free Bin Latin, free Saddam (dead), free the United States of America from Bush,liberate the world!

[yu0004ng]

jeez what do these hippies know about tibet and china?

[zhangstephenfan]

After been divided into many small groups, brave Chinese students shouted out 'Long live China!' On the other side of the street(Whitehall), stands the riots and mercenary army of Dalai Lama, who knows nothing about China, about Tibet, or even where Tibet is! All they know is pointing their middle finger to other people.

This is the reason for so many policemen are on the other side of the street, and over 30 people were arrested. None of the Chinese was arrested one that day.

[mahakalatom]

Doubtless you are "brave" because have learned that you are shoot up if you don't!

[KensingtonBaby]

Boycot the chows and their filthy land full of of germs! Boycot Beijing 2008! Shame on you G Brown or should I call you Brown&Co

[tenzin7777]

Two national flags: Two ethnic groups! Its prove that Tibet was a free country...a colonized country...

[Kanehodder82]

prost bobo

[Kanehodder82]

1st! BOBO bist der beste, KRAWALL UND REMMIDEMMI HAHA :)