Its much harder for hyenas,even 16 of them,to remove lioness from their kill when they are in cover,the hyenas arent quite as confident going after them when they cant see exactly where they are.
Those noises are meant to sound like that, the africans dont call them devilspawn for nothing. the "giggling" sound is primairly to scare other carnivores.
hmmm are we meant to assume the lions killed the wildebeest&the hyenas are trying to muscle in?? cos its a known fact that hyenas usually make the kill,then the lions steal it,then the hyenas round up&steal it back,but the filmers want to make it look like the lions made the kill cos theyre biased.
the filemaker (me) just sat and watched the whole thing happen :) the lions made the kill the night before (other landrovers had witnessed this and notified our ranger by radio) and this was early the next morning, when the hyenas were muscling in. Actually the lions usually make the kill (hunters) and hyenas steal (scavengers). Amazing thing to see and the noise was incredible!
perhaps,but thats what im saying: biased.fact is,and ive read this on almost every related website and program ive seen in the last few years, is that hyenas are NOT scavengers and they kill the vast majority of their food,and lions are actually more likely to steal.just so people know
That may be the case in the kalahari, where hyenas make 70% of their own kills, but it is not the case in the sabi sands, here the hyenas are almost always the scavengers! A week prior to this incident the same hyena clan killed a young lioness whilst stealing a kill from a different pride.
It is not a case of the filmmaker being biased it is just what occured here and for this area that is the norm1
Cool video anyway!
(I was the ranger who was driving if anybody was wondering!)
But by all accounts the stats and experts point toward hyenas being highly efficient and ruthless hunters with a far higher kill/success rate than lions, the latter being more likely to scavenge.
Would you not agree that the hyena is a much misaligned, mis-understood animal as they are not deemed as aesthetically "noble" looking as lions, not to mention their villainous roles in Disney cartoons? Most also appear to find their yelping and "laughing" distasteful.
You might have indifferences here and there, but the fact of the matter is that lions scavenge off of hyenas more than the other way around. So I must say that you should know who you call a scavenger, a hyena or lion.
Actually I would have to disagree with you. In many cases, it is the hyenas who make a kill and lions scavenge off of them. In fact, many wildlife experts such as Hans Krux, Kim Volgner and others have experimented using hyena voices as means to lure lions into thinking that a kill has been made. Just realize this, hyenas have hunting success of about 65% whereas lions are at 25%. Lions scavenge more off of hyenas than the other way around.
They are Predators, all Predators scavenge when they can and if they can... Statistically Lions scavenge more than Hyenas and more from Hyenas, did you know that? Did you also know that Hyenas hunt more than they scavenge? Therefore, if you gona call a Spotted Hyena for a (scavenger) then you might call a Lion or any other Predator that to. Its not good listening to non-Hyena-experts.. or watching Disney movies.
@roseninja "Lions usually make the kill ( hunter ) and hyenas steal ( scavengers )" You should watch some more documentaries and read up a little bit because that statement is stupidly false. Hyenas have about an 80% success rate when they hunt, Lions are at about 40%, Lions ALWAYS scavange off every other predator ( Hyenas, Leopards, Cheetahs ). Lions = scavengers, Hyenas = Hunters. Stop learning from Disney movies.
@roseninja it's incorrect that lions usually make the kill. I'm not denying they may have in this circumstance, but overall, hyena hunts are more successful than lion hunts (lions succeed at *most* 30% of the time; hyenas, at *least* 50% of the time) and night vision study after night vision study has confirmed that lions steal from hyena more than the other way 'round.
@KMDS909 Yea yea yea, Ive heard that story a million times. The truth of the matter is yea, lions do steal kills just like hyenas do. Its the wild (cut throat) you get food when you can. Sometimes Hyenas win, sometimes lions win. There's nothing usual about the wild and each day or night is different.
We know the lions made the kill, because another group saw the kill as it happened and radioed it in the night before (all game drive vehicles communicate by radio and keep other rangers and trackers posted on what's happening in the area so they can take guests to see the various sightings).
I have it to my favorites - and that is why I come with pleasure to see it again. Incredible is the reaction of the second lioness - she didn't lose a second - best wingman ever!
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dcddjc 2 years ago
they are masters of choas (hyenas),,thats their tactic,,,psychological advantage on thier part !!!
radar200 2 years ago
how are they standing right in the middle of all that i'd be crapping my pamts!!!
reagansoccer 2 years ago 3
Its much harder for hyenas,even 16 of them,to remove lioness from their kill when they are in cover,the hyenas arent quite as confident going after them when they cant see exactly where they are.
gjms30 2 years ago
ha ha those hyenas are some sissies
nihuskies12 3 years ago
@nihuskies12 In the Wild, you wouldn't be alive long enough to show the type of pussy you'd be.
ThaOneChrisJONES 1 year ago
ROFL. Fuckin true
ToxicCustard 3 years ago
Those hyenas make annoying noises.
ferose2 3 years ago 5
hyenas are masters of chaos,,thats thier tactic to have a psyhcological advantage on thier enemies
radar200 2 years ago
Those noises are meant to sound like that, the africans dont call them devilspawn for nothing. the "giggling" sound is primairly to scare other carnivores.
R1v1X 2 years ago
Incredible power - I love this video!
Look at the second lioness, how fast she follow just to support! Awesome.
dcddjc 3 years ago 6
your lucky being able to see that
bloodshot16 3 years ago 5
damn does hyenas sounds like monkeys lol
krungski 3 years ago
No, there's definitely 19 hyenas.
ezequielc11 3 years ago 3
wow KMDS you like to talk
vpblack777 4 years ago
be funny if u toss em a firecracker
SoundwaveSuperior373 4 years ago
hmmm are we meant to assume the lions killed the wildebeest&the hyenas are trying to muscle in?? cos its a known fact that hyenas usually make the kill,then the lions steal it,then the hyenas round up&steal it back,but the filmers want to make it look like the lions made the kill cos theyre biased.
KMDS909 4 years ago
the filemaker (me) just sat and watched the whole thing happen :) the lions made the kill the night before (other landrovers had witnessed this and notified our ranger by radio) and this was early the next morning, when the hyenas were muscling in. Actually the lions usually make the kill (hunters) and hyenas steal (scavengers). Amazing thing to see and the noise was incredible!
roseninja 4 years ago 8
perhaps,but thats what im saying: biased.fact is,and ive read this on almost every related website and program ive seen in the last few years, is that hyenas are NOT scavengers and they kill the vast majority of their food,and lions are actually more likely to steal.just so people know
KMDS909 4 years ago
That may be the case in the kalahari, where hyenas make 70% of their own kills, but it is not the case in the sabi sands, here the hyenas are almost always the scavengers! A week prior to this incident the same hyena clan killed a young lioness whilst stealing a kill from a different pride.
It is not a case of the filmmaker being biased it is just what occured here and for this area that is the norm1
Cool video anyway!
(I was the ranger who was driving if anybody was wondering!)
iduberobtheranger 3 years ago
@iduberobtheranger,
But by all accounts the stats and experts point toward hyenas being highly efficient and ruthless hunters with a far higher kill/success rate than lions, the latter being more likely to scavenge.
Would you not agree that the hyena is a much misaligned, mis-understood animal as they are not deemed as aesthetically "noble" looking as lions, not to mention their villainous roles in Disney cartoons? Most also appear to find their yelping and "laughing" distasteful.
fralust 10 months ago
You might have indifferences here and there, but the fact of the matter is that lions scavenge off of hyenas more than the other way around. So I must say that you should know who you call a scavenger, a hyena or lion.
mosharma134 3 years ago
Actually, in our area hyenas scavenge more from leopards than anything else....
iduberobtheranger 3 years ago
Actually I would have to disagree with you. In many cases, it is the hyenas who make a kill and lions scavenge off of them. In fact, many wildlife experts such as Hans Krux, Kim Volgner and others have experimented using hyena voices as means to lure lions into thinking that a kill has been made. Just realize this, hyenas have hunting success of about 65% whereas lions are at 25%. Lions scavenge more off of hyenas than the other way around.
mosharma134 3 years ago
Roseninja:
They are Predators, all Predators scavenge when they can and if they can... Statistically Lions scavenge more than Hyenas and more from Hyenas, did you know that? Did you also know that Hyenas hunt more than they scavenge? Therefore, if you gona call a Spotted Hyena for a (scavenger) then you might call a Lion or any other Predator that to. Its not good listening to non-Hyena-experts.. or watching Disney movies.
xxwhatevahxx 3 years ago
@roseninja hm. what's yr f'n point?
jcifv1 1 year ago
@roseninja sorry, i meant to direct it at the KMDS909 idiot.
jcifv1 1 year ago
@roseninja "Lions usually make the kill ( hunter ) and hyenas steal ( scavengers )" You should watch some more documentaries and read up a little bit because that statement is stupidly false. Hyenas have about an 80% success rate when they hunt, Lions are at about 40%, Lions ALWAYS scavange off every other predator ( Hyenas, Leopards, Cheetahs ). Lions = scavengers, Hyenas = Hunters. Stop learning from Disney movies.
ThaOneChrisJONES 1 year ago
@roseninja it's incorrect that lions usually make the kill. I'm not denying they may have in this circumstance, but overall, hyena hunts are more successful than lion hunts (lions succeed at *most* 30% of the time; hyenas, at *least* 50% of the time) and night vision study after night vision study has confirmed that lions steal from hyena more than the other way 'round.
ScisMacGillicutty 4 months ago
@KMDS909 how did u know the hyenas make the kill & the lions steal it ????...
redsnowgirl 1 year ago
@KMDS909 You should probably crack open a zoology or biology book. Hyenas are well known scavengers, while Lions are well known predators.
Themothia2 1 year ago
@KMDS909 Yea yea yea, Ive heard that story a million times. The truth of the matter is yea, lions do steal kills just like hyenas do. Its the wild (cut throat) you get food when you can. Sometimes Hyenas win, sometimes lions win. There's nothing usual about the wild and each day or night is different.
paul0421 1 year ago
@KMDS909
What? There is no hint that the filmers are assuming the lions made the kill. They are some tourists that just came by on their tour in that moment.
By the way it does happen now and then that lions kill an animal. Why would one even wind betrayal unless he is biased against lions?
Florrezmax 9 months ago
We know the lions made the kill, because another group saw the kill as it happened and radioed it in the night before (all game drive vehicles communicate by radio and keep other rangers and trackers posted on what's happening in the area so they can take guests to see the various sightings).
roseninja 9 months ago
just goes to show the power of lions
gjms30 4 years ago
Too short - I want MORE!!
harrymix 4 years ago 9
I know! ran outta memory - really sucked :)
roseninja 4 years ago
I have it to my favorites - and that is why I come with pleasure to see it again. Incredible is the reaction of the second lioness - she didn't lose a second - best wingman ever!
dcddjc 4 years ago
I like it -is pure, is wild and authentic.
5/5 and to my favorites.
dcddjc 4 years ago