Charlie ... PLEASE speak to facts, it makes it easier to see your point of view ... Joe did NOT say he makes $250,000 a year, he said IF he bought the company, he COULD make over that much ... Joe is NOT a Republican, he's a registered member of the American Law party, two WAY different ideals ... All we "everyday citizens" are being screwed from BOTH sides of the major parties. I advocate voting for anyone NOT related to either the Democrat or Republican party as I will be doing November 4.
joe never claimed he makes 250,000, the definition of a plumber isnt someone who "pulls shit out of a toilet". In fact it takes more years to become a plumber than a doctor, or lawyer, which brings me to my next point; even a kid on his fist day of work w/a plumbing contractor is called a plumber, a plumbers apprentice, plumbers helpers, journeyman, master, and even more. One doesnt need a licence to be a plumber!one licenced plumber can carry an entire company. dont confuse me w/a republican
I think its disgusting to see how the republicans use lies in their ads and bash obama with saying things like "not ready to lead" joe the plumber is a false trap set by republicans. im saying this, how can you trust mccain with all his double talk and lies?
have you heard him singing about bombing iran?
if you didnt then i bet you watch Fox News. mccain has 59 lobbyists working in his campaign and Big companys supporting him.
When I was watching the final debate, I noticed McCain brought up Joe The Plumber name first. Now I didn;t what went down between this so call Joe the Plumber & Obama till after the debate. I told my partner that oe was planted there. Why would McCain mentiuon his name so many time. And even Obama carefully explained his plan to Joe, Joe still pretend he stil didn't buy it. I look & said to myself, this Joe the Plumber is a fake. Days later my hutch was right. McCain needs to be stop.
1. if you make 250k you are well off most small business does not make 250k profit you really think a coffee shop or gas station owner makes that much. 2. income tax is 35% now it going up 3% you really think 3% on 250k+ is to high. Now the GOP is trying to say 40% of Americans don't pay income tax if you don't pay you don't get a cut on income tax that's it. what i see is the repuds think low to mid income ppl are stupid we could go on obamas site and see what he says.
It amazes me that Republicans think so little of their supporters that they choose to lie to them on a daily basis. Joe the plummer is a joke, that is obvious. Their claim that Acorn is committing voter fraud is also a lie, but it is a lie to make democrats forget that the Republicans committed massive voter fraud in 2000 to put that monster George Bush in office in the first place...and don't think for a minute that they will not do it again to put John McCain in office this year
Why is Joe the plummer a joke? Because he is a working class guy and not a Hollywood celebrity? ACORN didn't commit voter fraud? You are one of those hard core neo-lib Kool-Aid drinkers. Snap out of it man!
good post. People are so fucking stupid it's ridiculous..
It's called and EXAMPLE. You remember back in school when the teacher gave EXAMPLES? No, I suppose you dont. Most obama supporters havent graduated high school
i think both of the two above me are two card carrying idiots. it's obvious that it was a GIMMICK used by mccain. and if he was going to use someone like joe the plumber, VET THE STORY. when people go back and find out that he is lying they feel as if he was just there to play devil's advocate with obama. not only that, but if you evade taxes in the US it speaks volumes of your character. Since mccain is so quick to use guilt by association it's pure IRONY
No he's not a terrorist, he's a political puppet who can't raise his arms, who lies left and right and is a walking contradiction. I guess that doesn't matter because he served our country years ago in a bullshit war. Hm... the cheating on his wife with Cindy McCain who is a former drug addict, not supporting civil rights, hanging with lobbyists and terrorists of his own, those are all reasons to vote for McCain. Do your research man.
No one voted yet so how has Acorn committed voters fraud? Acron is required to turn in ALL registration cards even if it reads Micky Mouse. AND it's not illegal to register more than once b/c only the last registration will be valid. The fact is Acorn was investigated b/4 and they found nothing. Spent over 100k in tax money and found absolutely nothing illegal. Voters fraud is not a problem in America, under 30 cases. Acron is a smoke screen! & McShame followers are brainwashed & blind 2 facts!
If you are making $250K or more, you are not middle class - you are RICH, in the top 2%. But Joe is not a licensed plumber, not a registered Independent and not capable of buying a business since he made $40K last year and still has a $1700 tax lien against him. Joe the plumber is a fraud! Thanks for speaking out, MrCharlieBlack!
Not only is joe a lying red neck he has not even paid the taxes on his current $40,000 salary. his only purpose for being at the rally was to try and derail Obama. The company he works for only has 2 employee Lying Joe and the owner. The gross earning of said company was a wopping $100,000. Joe should have stayed in school.
Thank you - the voice of reason. I posted a comment on another posting calling Joe a fraud before Olbermann broke the story and have been besieged by name-calling and veiled threats. I don't mind a spirited debate, in fact I love it, but this election has taken a nasty turn. It has not been confirmed, but I have heard reports of physical assaults on peaceful demonstrators at a Palin rally yesterday. I'm getting worried.
Charlie ... PLEASE speak to facts, it makes it easier to see your point of view ... Joe did NOT say he makes $250,000 a year, he said IF he bought the company, he COULD make over that much ... Joe is NOT a Republican, he's a registered member of the American Law party, two WAY different ideals ... All we "everyday citizens" are being screwed from BOTH sides of the major parties. I advocate voting for anyone NOT related to either the Democrat or Republican party as I will be doing November 4.
i69galz 3 years ago
joe never claimed he makes 250,000, the definition of a plumber isnt someone who "pulls shit out of a toilet". In fact it takes more years to become a plumber than a doctor, or lawyer, which brings me to my next point; even a kid on his fist day of work w/a plumbing contractor is called a plumber, a plumbers apprentice, plumbers helpers, journeyman, master, and even more. One doesnt need a licence to be a plumber!one licenced plumber can carry an entire company. dont confuse me w/a republican
kookiemoose 3 years ago
I think its disgusting to see how the republicans use lies in their ads and bash obama with saying things like "not ready to lead" joe the plumber is a false trap set by republicans. im saying this, how can you trust mccain with all his double talk and lies?
have you heard him singing about bombing iran?
if you didnt then i bet you watch Fox News. mccain has 59 lobbyists working in his campaign and Big companys supporting him.
vstyht43 3 years ago
When I was watching the final debate, I noticed McCain brought up Joe The Plumber name first. Now I didn;t what went down between this so call Joe the Plumber & Obama till after the debate. I told my partner that oe was planted there. Why would McCain mentiuon his name so many time. And even Obama carefully explained his plan to Joe, Joe still pretend he stil didn't buy it. I look & said to myself, this Joe the Plumber is a fake. Days later my hutch was right. McCain needs to be stop.
blachubear 3 years ago
1. if you make 250k you are well off most small business does not make 250k profit you really think a coffee shop or gas station owner makes that much. 2. income tax is 35% now it going up 3% you really think 3% on 250k+ is to high. Now the GOP is trying to say 40% of Americans don't pay income tax if you don't pay you don't get a cut on income tax that's it. what i see is the repuds think low to mid income ppl are stupid we could go on obamas site and see what he says.
bad444 3 years ago
It amazes me that Republicans think so little of their supporters that they choose to lie to them on a daily basis. Joe the plummer is a joke, that is obvious. Their claim that Acorn is committing voter fraud is also a lie, but it is a lie to make democrats forget that the Republicans committed massive voter fraud in 2000 to put that monster George Bush in office in the first place...and don't think for a minute that they will not do it again to put John McCain in office this year
magicman597 3 years ago
Why is Joe the plummer a joke? Because he is a working class guy and not a Hollywood celebrity? ACORN didn't commit voter fraud? You are one of those hard core neo-lib Kool-Aid drinkers. Snap out of it man!
seka1986 3 years ago
good post. People are so fucking stupid it's ridiculous..
It's called and EXAMPLE. You remember back in school when the teacher gave EXAMPLES? No, I suppose you dont. Most obama supporters havent graduated high school
85305 3 years ago
i think both of the two above me are two card carrying idiots. it's obvious that it was a GIMMICK used by mccain. and if he was going to use someone like joe the plumber, VET THE STORY. when people go back and find out that he is lying they feel as if he was just there to play devil's advocate with obama. not only that, but if you evade taxes in the US it speaks volumes of your character. Since mccain is so quick to use guilt by association it's pure IRONY
mrcharlieblack 3 years ago
Well.. at least McCain isn't a terrorist.
85305 3 years ago
No he's not a terrorist, he's a political puppet who can't raise his arms, who lies left and right and is a walking contradiction. I guess that doesn't matter because he served our country years ago in a bullshit war. Hm... the cheating on his wife with Cindy McCain who is a former drug addict, not supporting civil rights, hanging with lobbyists and terrorists of his own, those are all reasons to vote for McCain. Do your research man.
mrcharlieblack 3 years ago
Served in a bullshit war?
I got all of your argument up untill taht point.
You should be ashamed.
You're no different than other black ultra liberal voters.
regelemihai 3 years ago
No one voted yet so how has Acorn committed voters fraud? Acron is required to turn in ALL registration cards even if it reads Micky Mouse. AND it's not illegal to register more than once b/c only the last registration will be valid. The fact is Acorn was investigated b/4 and they found nothing. Spent over 100k in tax money and found absolutely nothing illegal. Voters fraud is not a problem in America, under 30 cases. Acron is a smoke screen! & McShame followers are brainwashed & blind 2 facts!
ebloggie 3 years ago
If you are making $250K or more, you are not middle class - you are RICH, in the top 2%. But Joe is not a licensed plumber, not a registered Independent and not capable of buying a business since he made $40K last year and still has a $1700 tax lien against him. Joe the plumber is a fraud! Thanks for speaking out, MrCharlieBlack!
Tommygun264 3 years ago
Not only is joe a lying red neck he has not even paid the taxes on his current $40,000 salary. his only purpose for being at the rally was to try and derail Obama. The company he works for only has 2 employee Lying Joe and the owner. The gross earning of said company was a wopping $100,000. Joe should have stayed in school.
MSkillet 3 years ago
Thank you - the voice of reason. I posted a comment on another posting calling Joe a fraud before Olbermann broke the story and have been besieged by name-calling and veiled threats. I don't mind a spirited debate, in fact I love it, but this election has taken a nasty turn. It has not been confirmed, but I have heard reports of physical assaults on peaceful demonstrators at a Palin rally yesterday. I'm getting worried.
Tommygun264 3 years ago