Er könnte ein wirklich angenehm klingender Tenor sein, wenn er nicht so grauenhaft guttural die hohen Resonanzen verschlucken würde... Eieiei, lieber Jonas, wie kommst du denn auf die Idee, dass das gesund sein könnte??? Von Metternich hast du das nicht gelernt. Und von Rhode? Der konnte das sicher auch nicht so gemeint haben mit dem "aus dem ganzen Körper singen" ... Nee, da hat du wat falsch verstanden, erlaub ick mir zu sage... ;-(
He is not a tenor. Singing without Squillo, at the end of the aria lack of power. His voice sounds artificial, too dark... it is not the "italian" way of singing.
Here is one great tenor but this role is too mature for him at this time! Please hold off and do the more dramatic roles but leave the Heldentenor stuff for later in your career. You will last longer!!!!!!!
@Askade1 na na na ! eigentlich müssten Sie noch James King kennen! Der war schon nochmal was Anderes. Obgleich ich sagen muss, dass er mir hier ziemlich gut gefällt.
@mariorussi2010 If he's a baritone then Pavarotti was a coloratura soprano! The only baritone that could sing a high C was Leonard Warren who I had the privilige to sing with many times.
@MRhodess Strange to claim to know all baritones of the world. Not that it is at all relevant when commenting on Jonas Kaufmann's Florestan, but I know several baritones with a high C. I guess you mean that out of the baritones you know, no-one else had this wide range.
@ptgunit there are more baritones than tenors who have high c's. this is due to the fact that the deeper the voice the longer and thicker the vocal chords are. Basses can sing the highest notes.
wenn man keine ahnung hat: einfach mal klappe halten...ihr unwissenden kritiker. "I'm not a professional singer but I sing this here much better" wer schreibt sowas? weeeeer?
beautiful phrasing and breath control, great acting, and squillo. The only problem he has and it's a minor one is him trying to take over and make the sound too big which sends the sound back slightly in his throat. Now he only has a minor problem of this and is so slight and he has such a huge voice that he can get away with it. Overall great artistic and technically sound performing. Bravo!
Dies ist eine außerordentliche Darstellung der Szene, sowohl stimmlich als auch dramatisch-schauspielerisch. Ein überzeugender und sehr beeindruckender Florestan!
I have nevere heard such a Florestan since the great Jon Vickers!. By the way their voices are quite similar:heroic, powerfull, beaultifull! Bravissimo!
Ich denke, diejenigen, die Kaufmann nicht mögen, sind an ein Timbre gewöhnt, das er nicht bietet. Vergleiche sind müßig, vor allem mit Sängern, die schon lange der Vergangenheit angehören. Dieses ewige "Ja, aber der und der" sollte aufhören. Kaufmann macht seine Sache hervorragend, gestaltet, versteht, worum es geht. Vorbildlich.
@Altonahh10 genau darin sehe ich aber ein Problem der heutigen Zeit. Nur weil Sänger wie Fritz Wunderlich schon tot sind müssen wir , die wir jetzt leben nicht eine weitaus schlechtere Qualität als höchsten Standart bezeichnen.
JK hat nun mal leider keine Stütze für die hohen Töne . Deshalb ist er auch oft bei hohen Passagen ander Grenze seiner Kraft.Er knödelt und hält die Töne dann im Hals fest. Leider ist dies keine Qualität welche den Titel Top verdient.
@GERMANYFrankie The entire German country deserves a punishment and you with them. It's obvious you are not a professional singer. Jonas has not changed his technique one bit. I would hope that you someday in your wildest dreams earned what Jonas did last year!!!!!!
mein Lieber, für mich sind Sänger wie Wunderlich oder Fischer-Dieskau oder Prey oder Matthes keine abstrakten Namen gewesen sondern Sänger mit denen ich noch gearbeitet habe . Ach ja --z.B. unter Dirigenten wie Bernstein , Sawallisch , Karajan oder auch Harnoncourt um einen jüngeren zu nennen. Reicht das als Nachweis meiner "Ahnung"???
Zu schlechter Qualität darf man nicht schweigen.Insbesondere nicht wenn man wie ich selbst wesentlich besseres selbst erlebt hat.
in wie weit wir uns als Kollegen bezeichnen möchte ich doch dahingestellt sehen.
Ich nehme nicht an , dass sie JK auch nur annähernd in eine Reihe mit FW stellen wollen. Und was mein Unverständnis anbetrifft frage ich sie was sie zum nicht (mehr) vorhandenen Vordersitz der Stimme sagen...
Das in den Hals ziehen der Töne ( angeblich baritonales abdunkeln) beraubt ihn seiner eigentlich guten Voraussetzungen komplett . er singt fachlich einfach falsch
ich denke, bei Ihnen ist doch eher der Neid am Werk, weil Sie selbst zu offensichtlich nichts gebracht haben... Ich für meinen Teil kann sehr gut andere bestehen lassen, wenn sie gut sind. Und Jonas ist gut!!!
Natürlich war Fritz Wunderlich ein Jahrhundertsänger, aber er ist tot, wie wir wissen!!! Mit ewig Gestrigen, wie Sie einer sind, kann ich nichts anfangen, tut mir leid.
@uorgel gut , dass sie mich in meiner rechtschreibung verbessern . wo sie recht haben , haben sie recht .
mir ist es nur völlig egal, wie oft ich mich vertippe oder übereifrig einfach etwas falsch tippe. Auch schreibe ich mal klein und mal gross .auch hier nicht wirklich genau. es kommt aber immer auf den inhalt an .
haben sie denn schon mal was von pjotr becscala gehört ? auch falsch geschrieben? macht nix. das ist eine qualität der ich gern eine zukunft gebe . denken sie an den inhalt.
ich finde er singt das hier außerordentlich gut; außerdem versteht man endlich auch mal den Text, was sonst nicht immer der Fall ist. Er steht auch nicht einfach auf der Bühne und singt seine Arie wie das manche Andere machen, sondern es gibt auch was zu sehen :)
Wenn ich dann lese...this is weak...etc. dann frage ich mich, welche Gestalten sich bemüssigt fühlen solche Komentare abzugeben.
Bin weiß Gott kein Fan , dafür bin ich zu alt und renn zu lange in die Oper (>40 Jahre). Habe in 3mal live gesehen, Carmen im Covent, La Traviata und Lohengrin (besser als Bayreuth seit Dekaden) in MUC und immer war er ausserordentlich gut.
Breites Repertoire, sehr gute Technik, grosse Stimme was wollt ihr eigentlich mehr??
Neid, Neid und nochmals Neid , Mißgunst und Gehässigkeit bringen Menschen zu abfälligen Bemerkungen. Es sind Kleingeister- hier wie anderswo, die Schönes kaputt machen,--- weil sie selber kaputt sind.
Thanks for your answer. I heard Heppner after receiving it in youtube - but regrettable I don't like the pressure in his voice - his singing seems rather strained. Jonas Kaufmann may have sometimes some constriction in his throat but in his height he seems never to have difficulties. Also the interpretation of Heppner cannot not be compared with Kaufmann - his play is very good, too. But this is only my point of view.
Now, if you a real fan of someone, you also have to be critical to his work. I like Jonas, but he just should not (yet or ever) sing everything! Florestan is not for him - there are some nice parts, like "Mein Angel Leonoren...", but the first, slow part is not good at all.
Terrible. The initial "Gott" is as foul as the one René Kollo produces with Bernstein. He's just a pale sissy. No colours in a third-rate voice. Ugly timbre, and already worn out. It won't take long till we get rid of him. PEOPLE, where have all your STANDARDS gone? It's a shame!
you are deaf and no offense but you have to have an ear for technique before you can have accurate standards. you may not like his voice but his technique is superb and he has a free easy sound, not worn out at all. few tenors today have the ease kaufmann has. he has the right size voice to sing almost anything with ease and without pushing because big voices easily carry. the size dictates the rep. not the age, as the voice physiologically changes little after puberty. open your ears.
thank goodness someone knows what he's talking about! I am not particularly fond of Jonas's VOICE but ... I cannot stop listen to him for the ease of sound and how he manages everything!
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SwarzBass : ho visto 3 recite di Fidelio dal vivo a Garnier con kaufmann,orrendo,stonato,brutto ! a scusatemi l`uomo e bello , ma per me e uno fra tanti diletanti ! Lei ha ragione , mi conosce cosi bene ,ma una "bella" registrazione non ha nessun valore artistico per me ,preferisco i spettacoli dal vivo .con rispetto.
Heartbreakingly gorgeous. Oh Beethoven! And Kaufmann....! Is this from the Zurich production which is on DVD??? Because after this, I desperately want to see this redeemed in "O namenlose Freude!" :)
@joanabanyeres : hahahahahaha,ma che scrive,dal vivo la sua voce non passa l'orchestra .............andate ascoltate dal vivo ...........controllo di voce ?haha,colore hahahahahahahaha........... Avete ascoltato Wickers dal vivo ? Ma che scrive ? hahahahahahaha.....
Extraordinary great rendition! One of the best I have heard. This is a master interpretation in every aspect, vocally, musically and characterization. Jonas Kaufmann demonstrates here that high quality standards for opera singers are possible even nowadays. Thanks for posting it.
dg6da, I wanted to reply properly to your comment but since I realized you are one of those frustrated wanna be singers trying to catch attention in this platform I only feel sorry about you! Your singing is pathetic! And your comments even worse!
oh come on... He is a magnificent artist. Vickers Florestan is different but he had done the role for years! Kaufmann is not just another tenor, listen to the recordings of Manon in chicago 2008. He does le reve des grieux more musically and beautifully than I have ever heard...
I can´t understand why everbody argues about his ability to sing a Heldentenor. I think he will, but I hope he waits to do so and doesn´t ruin his voice. It would be a great loss. By the way: Hoffmann or Don José are still lyrical pieces. Heldentenor would be Otello, Siegmung, Siegfried, Tristan; maybe Kaiser, Lohengrin, Apollo or Bacchus
¿Sabe tu familia, CORALRABIDA, que te dedicas a insultar por internet a personas anónimas que se limitan a tener opiniones distintas a las tuyas?¿Lo saben en la Coral Ntra. Sra. de la Rábida, cuyo nombre llevas?¿Saben que pontificas sobre ópera y llamas ignorantes y estúpidos a los demás, como si Arturo Toscanini en persona te hablase desde el cielo? Si quieres debatir con personas, guárdate la agresividad y aprende educación y respeto. Y si no puedes, ve a un psiquiatra.
This is one of my favourite type of tenor. To be a Heldentenor, you must possess a wide vocal range, high stamina, and an extended dramatic deferment.
He is NOT a helden tenor. I heard him sing Traviata at LOC and he was inaudible. He can't cut a thick orchestra to save his life. He artificially darkens the sound. Check out his Un Aura Amorosa video. He should be singing Mozart.
Very very good (except for the first sound)! The end of this aria is one of the most difficult things ever written for the tenor voice, especially for the heavy Heldentenors that are usually employed in this part (without any musical good sense). Listen to René Kollo in the Bernstein recording: he was simply shouting it.
Kaufmann is a bit strange, but at least he knows what head voice is.
The staging is impressive... Probably the director mistook Fidelio for Beckett's Happy Days...
that first messa di voce, is very hard for the tenor, because i think is the very first note he sings in the entire opera. I don´t like this opera!!! sorry lol.
Es una hermosísima voz. Yo tengo el CD con Lieder de Strauss y es maravilloso lo que hace en cada uno de ellos. No lo había oído en ópera pero es extraordiario como puede hacer de todo y bien!
Estimo que el criterio de "Divamaria" es excesivamente tajante.Pensar que un cantante no tiene Otro que pueda acercarsele no es correcto.El mundo avanza y no siempre el pasado fue mejor.Con ello no digo que Kaufmann sea mejor que Vickers.Solo afirmo que ambos son buenos ,cada uno dentro de sus propios parametros ,con sus propias tonalidades de voz,tecnicas de interpretacion y demas aspectos que intervienen en el canto.Las comparaciones no son justas,porque se tiende a sesgar por gusto subjetivo.
a gentle haunting voice which can also become powerful without harshness, a potent combination - saw him last night in Tosca at the Royal Opera House, no idea beforehand I was going to be in for such a treat, how lucky was that
Und sogar ER, DER HERRLICHSTE VON ALLEN und vor Allen herrlicher Florestan dieser Tage, hat Probleme mit diesem mörderischen Ende und schleppt sich "ins himmlische Reich". Seitdem ich den Kopfklangmeister Anton Dermota auf einer Aufnahme unter Karl Böhm habe verrecken hören (Kiekser!), verfluche ich Beethoven für dieses Teufelswerk. Und es ist so schön!
Nice amber-colored dark voice, similar to Richard Tauber, but without Tauber's mannerisms which is nice. He seems to be a good actor as well. His new CD is quite good, especially in the French repertoire.
Perhaps you are hearing Herr Kaufmann through "nice amber-colored" glasses". To other ears, however, there might be little to remind of Tauber in the Kaufmann voice. Both are tenors and both are unique.
Why be sorry? No doubt you are quite right in pointing out that these are two different voices. If you reread and understand my comment (which in any case made no claim that Tauber had a dramatic voice) you may see that we do agree about that,
Listen to his Cd of Strauss Lieder. impressionnant. His pianisimo in some as Nacht and some others Lieder, oh! l love this singer. His florestan is so dram and his expression so great, he makes me cry..First line tenor.
Jonas Kaufmann sounds very much like a young Jon Vickers indeed. I saw him in Canada many times in several roles. Florestan was one of them. He had a very powerful heldertenor voice and I do not know if Jonas has it. I must check him alive, but the recording is incredible similar. And also a great actor !
The similarity is there as far as this recording is concerned but the voice I heard live a couple of years ago was a much thinner sound, nicely darkened (a bit of a controversy there) but not remotely around the Heldentenor Fach.
Thank you very much for posting. At last a visually credible Florestan, not a big fat bloke to make me laugh when I hear he is starving to death!! I have ordered the dvd of Fidelio after seeing and hearing this. Beautiful voice, beautiful man, great acting. Thank you again for helping me to choose which dvd to buy.
Doesn't this guy remind any of you of the great Jhon Vickers. For my part is the first time i heard someone with the same character and powerfull voice of old Jhon...! GO JONAS..!
He looks great, he is very expressive, he sounds great -- at least here on You Tube. BUT---If you had ever heard Vickers live, you would NEVER even mention these two together. Vickers was an astonishing artist-- voice was ENORMOUS, a great actor, and always in control. Domingo is lighter in comparison to Vickers, and Kaufmann's voice sounds here as though it might be as large as Domingo. Note that Kaufmann is struggling a bit (ie-PUSHING)his throat is tight.
He looks great, he is very expressive, he sounds great -- at least here on You Tube. BUT---If you had ever heard Vickers live, you would NEVER even mention these two together. Vickers was an astonishing artist-- voice was ENORMOUS, a great actor, and always in control. Domingo is lighter in comparison to Vickers, and Kaufmann's voice sounds here as though it might be as large as Domingo. Note that Kaufmann is struggling a bit (ie-PUSHING)his throat is tight.
He had very good teachers Hotter, King... This is a great tenor no problems and if we start looking the way he sings, all tenores even Damingo , Pavarotti and.... com They al have something. Jonas is great and good looking thanks. thanks.
E CHE SCHIFO SEI TU..? NO ESCUTA, MUITO SIMPLES.....
Rosmai07 2 months ago in playlist Jonas Kaufmann
Che schifo
mozart200657 3 months ago
grossartig!
ConchanPiano 3 months ago
Er könnte ein wirklich angenehm klingender Tenor sein, wenn er nicht so grauenhaft guttural die hohen Resonanzen verschlucken würde... Eieiei, lieber Jonas, wie kommst du denn auf die Idee, dass das gesund sein könnte??? Von Metternich hast du das nicht gelernt. Und von Rhode? Der konnte das sicher auch nicht so gemeint haben mit dem "aus dem ganzen Körper singen" ... Nee, da hat du wat falsch verstanden, erlaub ick mir zu sage... ;-(
ONeirda 4 months ago
I prefer Jon Vickers
arzdad71 4 months ago in playlist Jonas Kaufmann
With all respect for him performing on the most important stages:
- Here in this recording I think he's quite good.
- Nevertheless: The high notes dangerously lack ringing. No head resonances, no smoothness, no ease.
- No mix in the lower registers: mediocre Baritone up to E, forced tenor above that.
This way of singing is just not my cup of tea. With all respect. Nope.
ONeirda 4 months ago
Click here for donations to retrain Jonas as a baritone
ONeirda 4 months ago 5
He is not a tenor. Singing without Squillo, at the end of the aria lack of power. His voice sounds artificial, too dark... it is not the "italian" way of singing.
dg6da 5 months ago
Jonas Kaufmann ist ein großer Sänger und ein wunderbarer Darsteller.
sisifus100 8 months ago 2
He's so disappointing "live"...
mrantiquedealer 8 months ago
quoi qu'il chante, il est émouvant par sa profondeur, sa réflexion, ... irremplaçable
lisnor100 8 months ago 2
And he is a great actor too!
Triosfrios 9 months ago
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"Oh grauenvolle... [meinte er] Stille oder Stimme"?
GERMANYFrankie 9 months ago
I love this production at Vienna State Opera back in 2004 b/c of him I own the DVD! =]
classicalgalNYC 9 months ago
bravissimo!! bravissimo!! e bravissimo!!!
panpypoo 10 months ago
I am not such a big fan of Kaufmann in general, but he masters this hell of an aria really good.
sxffdalt 1 year ago 3
Ben si tu préfère j'ai le meme nom qu'un personnage de "fidelio"
Muse0Lordi0Acdc 1 year ago
Bloedsinn. Seine hohen Toene sind strahlend schoen und muehelos.
RSLify 1 year ago
Here is one great tenor but this role is too mature for him at this time! Please hold off and do the more dramatic roles but leave the Heldentenor stuff for later in your career. You will last longer!!!!!!!
richbari 1 year ago
Moi je m'appelle Florestan je savais pas qu'il y avait une chanson avec mon nom
Muse0Lordi0Acdc 1 year ago
@Muse0Lordi0Acdc
Ce n'est pas une chanson avec ton prénom... c'est le prénom d'un personnage de l'opéra "Fidelio" de Beethoven !
operabaroque 1 year ago
Extraordinaire JONAS!
Il m'a fait découvrir FIDELIO car j'avoue ne pas apprécier particulièrement Beethoven.
Depuis WERTER à BASTILLE je n'écoute que lui!
evires 1 year ago
"Oh grauenvolle... [meinte er] Stille oder Stimme"?
GERMANYFrankie 1 year ago
Großartig!!!
GoekhanC 1 year ago
sex
1871freude 1 year ago
Ich bin ein Opernmuffel und lasse sonst außer Bach nicht viel zu. Aber Kaufmann beeindruckt mich schon, und mit ihm Beethoven.
LooksAeterna 1 year ago
Jonas Kaufmann is maybe the best in his period
DonSim1985 1 year ago
Best Florestan!
Askade1 1 year ago
@Askade1 na na na ! eigentlich müssten Sie noch James King kennen! Der war schon nochmal was Anderes. Obgleich ich sagen muss, dass er mir hier ziemlich gut gefällt.
canzonettasullaria 7 months ago
Ihre Kommentare sind einfach ätzend! Traurig, wenn man sich nicht mehr unvoreingenommen über eine wunderbare Stimme und Darbietung freuen kann!
ALYSSA09MUSICSTARS 1 year ago
baritono e non tenore buuuuuuu
mariorussi2010 1 year ago
@mariorussi2010 If he's a baritone then Pavarotti was a coloratura soprano! The only baritone that could sing a high C was Leonard Warren who I had the privilige to sing with many times.
MRhodess 1 year ago 5
@MRhodess pavarotti era un vero tenore kauffman e'un baritono ed anche molto scarso come baritono perche'un vero baritono e'bruson!!!!!!!!!!!!
mariorussi2010 1 year ago
@MRhodess Strange to claim to know all baritones of the world. Not that it is at all relevant when commenting on Jonas Kaufmann's Florestan, but I know several baritones with a high C. I guess you mean that out of the baritones you know, no-one else had this wide range.
iIncense 1 year ago
@MRhodess My teacher is a baritone and has a high c.
ptgunit 1 year ago
@ptgunit Mazel Tov!
MRhodess 1 year ago 2
@ptgunit there are more baritones than tenors who have high c's. this is due to the fact that the deeper the voice the longer and thicker the vocal chords are. Basses can sing the highest notes.
Stingerfyle 11 months ago
wenn man keine ahnung hat: einfach mal klappe halten...ihr unwissenden kritiker. "I'm not a professional singer but I sing this here much better" wer schreibt sowas? weeeeer?
schnulli1811 1 year ago 2
beautiful phrasing and breath control, great acting, and squillo. The only problem he has and it's a minor one is him trying to take over and make the sound too big which sends the sound back slightly in his throat. Now he only has a minor problem of this and is so slight and he has such a huge voice that he can get away with it. Overall great artistic and technically sound performing. Bravo!
jmancheni88 1 year ago
Habe NIE einen besseren Florestan Sänger-Darsteller gehört und gesehen! Bravi Jonas!!!
brunosilvershadow 1 year ago 4
He began his concert in hamburg with this aria! amazing.. it was a great concert ;)
jeannemeumier 1 year ago
finally Florerestan who looks like prisoner, and he sings heavenly!
mariastuarda51 1 year ago 4
Finally Florestan, who looks like prisoner! And of course he sings heavenly!
mariastuarda51 1 year ago
Dies ist eine außerordentliche Darstellung der Szene, sowohl stimmlich als auch dramatisch-schauspielerisch. Ein überzeugender und sehr beeindruckender Florestan!
tomgeydan 1 year ago 4
I have nevere heard such a Florestan since the great Jon Vickers!. By the way their voices are quite similar:heroic, powerfull, beaultifull! Bravissimo!
morehlepituachkol 1 year ago
@morehlepituachkol I was writing the same thing!! :-) Their voices are really similar!
BimmelBimmel 1 year ago
Ich denke, diejenigen, die Kaufmann nicht mögen, sind an ein Timbre gewöhnt, das er nicht bietet. Vergleiche sind müßig, vor allem mit Sängern, die schon lange der Vergangenheit angehören. Dieses ewige "Ja, aber der und der" sollte aufhören. Kaufmann macht seine Sache hervorragend, gestaltet, versteht, worum es geht. Vorbildlich.
Altonahh10 1 year ago
@Altonahh10 genau darin sehe ich aber ein Problem der heutigen Zeit. Nur weil Sänger wie Fritz Wunderlich schon tot sind müssen wir , die wir jetzt leben nicht eine weitaus schlechtere Qualität als höchsten Standart bezeichnen.
JK hat nun mal leider keine Stütze für die hohen Töne . Deshalb ist er auch oft bei hohen Passagen ander Grenze seiner Kraft.Er knödelt und hält die Töne dann im Hals fest. Leider ist dies keine Qualität welche den Titel Top verdient.
lecksiekon 1 year ago
@lecksiekon This is right what you say!
How Kaufmann sings here is a shame for the entire German country!
He had such a good voice and changed his technique to a dark neck-voice, using all available muscles.
His teacher needs a punishment!
I'm not a professional singer but I sing this here much better!
GERMANYFrankie 1 year ago
@GERMANYFrankie Dann stell Deine Aufnahme doch mal hier rein - dann wollen wir mal sehen!
IbanezMax 1 year ago
@GERMANYFrankie Oh Frankie you are so funny
athemag 1 year ago
@GERMANYFrankie The entire German country deserves a punishment and you with them. It's obvious you are not a professional singer. Jonas has not changed his technique one bit. I would hope that you someday in your wildest dreams earned what Jonas did last year!!!!!!
MRhodess 1 year ago
@GERMANYFrankie In your dreams!
gaytenor 10 months ago
@lecksiekon
na Sie haben ja Ahnung, hahah! Wenn der keine Stütze hat, haben Sie keinen Kopf... Ohren und Hirn offensichtlich sowieso nicht.....
uorgel 1 year ago
@uorgel
mein Lieber, für mich sind Sänger wie Wunderlich oder Fischer-Dieskau oder Prey oder Matthes keine abstrakten Namen gewesen sondern Sänger mit denen ich noch gearbeitet habe . Ach ja --z.B. unter Dirigenten wie Bernstein , Sawallisch , Karajan oder auch Harnoncourt um einen jüngeren zu nennen. Reicht das als Nachweis meiner "Ahnung"???
Zu schlechter Qualität darf man nicht schweigen.Insbesondere nicht wenn man wie ich selbst wesentlich besseres selbst erlebt hat.
lecksiekon 1 year ago
@lecksiekon
Nun, ob das von Ihnen Geschriebene ein Nachweis ist, steht dahin. Wenn es denn wahr ist, was Sie schreiben, wären wir ja Kollegen...
Ich bleibe dabei, Ihre Kritik an J.K. ist einfach haltlos und zeugt von einem hohen Maß an Unkenntnis !!!
uorgel 1 year ago
@uorgel mein lieber, uorgel,
in wie weit wir uns als Kollegen bezeichnen möchte ich doch dahingestellt sehen.
Ich nehme nicht an , dass sie JK auch nur annähernd in eine Reihe mit FW stellen wollen. Und was mein Unverständnis anbetrifft frage ich sie was sie zum nicht (mehr) vorhandenen Vordersitz der Stimme sagen...
Das in den Hals ziehen der Töne ( angeblich baritonales abdunkeln) beraubt ihn seiner eigentlich guten Voraussetzungen komplett . er singt fachlich einfach falsch
Fritz du fehlst!
lecksiekon 1 year ago
@lecksiekon
ich denke, bei Ihnen ist doch eher der Neid am Werk, weil Sie selbst zu offensichtlich nichts gebracht haben... Ich für meinen Teil kann sehr gut andere bestehen lassen, wenn sie gut sind. Und Jonas ist gut!!!
Natürlich war Fritz Wunderlich ein Jahrhundertsänger, aber er ist tot, wie wir wissen!!! Mit ewig Gestrigen, wie Sie einer sind, kann ich nichts anfangen, tut mir leid.
uorgel 1 year ago
@lecksiekon
und noch etwas, wenn Sie wirklich mit Edith gearbeitet hätten, wüßten Sie wie man ihren Namen schreibt. :-))))) Mathis, so ist's richtig!!!
uorgel 1 year ago
@uorgel gut , dass sie mich in meiner rechtschreibung verbessern . wo sie recht haben , haben sie recht .
mir ist es nur völlig egal, wie oft ich mich vertippe oder übereifrig einfach etwas falsch tippe. Auch schreibe ich mal klein und mal gross .auch hier nicht wirklich genau. es kommt aber immer auf den inhalt an .
haben sie denn schon mal was von pjotr becscala gehört ? auch falsch geschrieben? macht nix. das ist eine qualität der ich gern eine zukunft gebe . denken sie an den inhalt.
lecksiekon 1 year ago
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francesca7564 1 year ago
Jonas Kaufmann, l'homme qu'il faut pour chanter Florestan, dans l'opéra qu'il faut, avec Beethoven... qu'il faut à notre époque ... Pièce unique .
Merci à Leonorafl pour le post .
Goooooooot ....
francesca7564 1 year ago 4
ich finde er singt das hier außerordentlich gut; außerdem versteht man endlich auch mal den Text, was sonst nicht immer der Fall ist. Er steht auch nicht einfach auf der Bühne und singt seine Arie wie das manche Andere machen, sondern es gibt auch was zu sehen :)
Großartig
JaneEyreFan19 2 years ago 26
Das ist ganz groß!
Wenn ich dann lese...this is weak...etc. dann frage ich mich, welche Gestalten sich bemüssigt fühlen solche Komentare abzugeben.
Bin weiß Gott kein Fan , dafür bin ich zu alt und renn zu lange in die Oper (>40 Jahre). Habe in 3mal live gesehen, Carmen im Covent, La Traviata und Lohengrin (besser als Bayreuth seit Dekaden) in MUC und immer war er ausserordentlich gut.
Breites Repertoire, sehr gute Technik, grosse Stimme was wollt ihr eigentlich mehr??
zweigesundehaende 2 years ago 25
@zweigesundehaende
Neid, Neid und nochmals Neid , Mißgunst und Gehässigkeit bringen Menschen zu abfälligen Bemerkungen. Es sind Kleingeister- hier wie anderswo, die Schönes kaputt machen,--- weil sie selber kaputt sind.
MsTritop 1 year ago
@zweigesundehaende
"was wollt ihr eigentlich mehr?"
zB. weniger bis gar kein Knödeln
GentleSavage1 1 year ago
Die letzten Zeilen entsprechend zu singen, gehört zum Schwierigsten was Oper zu bieten hat - Wagner eingeschlossen. Er hat es bravurös gemeistert.
hugeldugel 2 years ago 2
UN TENORE DE MENTIRA!
urquiza009 2 years ago
Who knows a better Florestan of our times? In expression and voice really deeply moving. Stunning!
singmaus45 2 years ago
@singmaus45
you dont like heppner?
cjondoran 2 years ago
Thanks for your answer. I heard Heppner after receiving it in youtube - but regrettable I don't like the pressure in his voice - his singing seems rather strained. Jonas Kaufmann may have sometimes some constriction in his throat but in his height he seems never to have difficulties. Also the interpretation of Heppner cannot not be compared with Kaufmann - his play is very good, too. But this is only my point of view.
singmaus45 2 years ago
@singmaus45
I have to go with Vickers on florestan. He really has the whole package for me. Total professional
cjondoran 2 years ago
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finylvinyl66 2 years ago
Heppner is a hell of a tenor but the visual of Florestan as a middle linebacker is a
bit disconcerting. (He is a starving prisoner, after all.)
finylvinyl66 2 years ago
Now, if you a real fan of someone, you also have to be critical to his work. I like Jonas, but he just should not (yet or ever) sing everything! Florestan is not for him - there are some nice parts, like "Mein Angel Leonoren...", but the first, slow part is not good at all.
MisterSoprano 2 years ago
Er ist jetzt der Groööööößte !!!!
Alles andere ist nur Neid !!!
73lieselotte 2 years ago
Terrible. The initial "Gott" is as foul as the one René Kollo produces with Bernstein. He's just a pale sissy. No colours in a third-rate voice. Ugly timbre, and already worn out. It won't take long till we get rid of him. PEOPLE, where have all your STANDARDS gone? It's a shame!
crimsontoxic 2 years ago
Yes, this performance is weak. The first "Gott" sounds like rotten wood...
dg6da 2 years ago 4
you are deaf and no offense but you have to have an ear for technique before you can have accurate standards. you may not like his voice but his technique is superb and he has a free easy sound, not worn out at all. few tenors today have the ease kaufmann has. he has the right size voice to sing almost anything with ease and without pushing because big voices easily carry. the size dictates the rep. not the age, as the voice physiologically changes little after puberty. open your ears.
bigus 2 years ago
I agree, his volume control especially is exemplary- I loved James King's, and this is a nice contrast as well - very tuneful throughout the range.
kincsem1 2 years ago 2
thank goodness someone knows what he's talking about! I am not particularly fond of Jonas's VOICE but ... I cannot stop listen to him for the ease of sound and how he manages everything!
ARTUROPVIOLA 2 years ago
@ARTUROPVIOLA Oh yes! With him the "cabaletta" part of the aria is very easy-sounding. And personally, I like his sound.
Detectivefiction 1 month ago
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blackbecks 3 months ago
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IbanezMax 2 years ago 2
Long story short, Beautifully done!
logenisti 2 years ago 3
Très bel emploi vocal.
Étrange mise en scène: "Ketten" les chaînes sont remplacées par un cordon...
À moitie visible, son corps me rappele une pièce de Samuel Beckett!
Beau manteau si propre après des mois encarcéré! Cf le prisionnier dans les film "Bronson" ;p
1401JSC 2 years ago
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SwarzBass : ho visto 3 recite di Fidelio dal vivo a Garnier con kaufmann,orrendo,stonato,brutto ! a scusatemi l`uomo e bello , ma per me e uno fra tanti diletanti ! Lei ha ragione , mi conosce cosi bene ,ma una "bella" registrazione non ha nessun valore artistico per me ,preferisco i spettacoli dal vivo .con rispetto.
bodiloto 2 years ago
one of the finest tenors alive today! what a voice!
singspieler 2 years ago 6
Heartbreakingly gorgeous. Oh Beethoven! And Kaufmann....! Is this from the Zurich production which is on DVD??? Because after this, I desperately want to see this redeemed in "O namenlose Freude!" :)
vidiegoquam 2 years ago 3
Boah, that´s "Ins himmlische Reich" in the end is sooo broken hard!!!
WhiteProfondo 2 years ago
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bodiloto 2 years ago
I think you are speaking of your taste... my condolences.
SchwarzBass 2 years ago
Some are really crazy. Poor bodiloto Jonas is with Wickers one of the best Florestan. Control of voice, colour, dolor, and hope in his voice.
Whoa My God.
joanabanyeres 2 years ago 4
@joanabanyeres : hahahahahaha,ma che scrive,dal vivo la sua voce non passa l'orchestra .............andate ascoltate dal vivo ...........controllo di voce ?haha,colore hahahahahahahaha........... Avete ascoltato Wickers dal vivo ? Ma che scrive ? hahahahahahaha.....
bodiloto 2 years ago
ART!
dimakauffman 2 years ago
I have a new found respect for this opera after seeing this. It's wonderful!
schmup53 2 years ago 3
Blu Ray Blu Ray Blu Ray
schmup53 2 years ago
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schmup53 2 years ago
Extraordinary great rendition! One of the best I have heard. This is a master interpretation in every aspect, vocally, musically and characterization. Jonas Kaufmann demonstrates here that high quality standards for opera singers are possible even nowadays. Thanks for posting it.
Vielflieger01 2 years ago 4
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...am Schluss fehlt ihm jede Kraft, sorry. Denn letztlich ist die kuenstlich angedunkelte Stimme gar nicht kraeftig genug fuer solche Partien.
dg6da 2 years ago
dg6da, I wanted to reply properly to your comment but since I realized you are one of those frustrated wanna be singers trying to catch attention in this platform I only feel sorry about you! Your singing is pathetic! And your comments even worse!
Vielflieger01 2 years ago
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schmup53 2 years ago
richtig erkannt.wenigstens einer hier!
blauauge2 2 years ago 2
@dg6da Grossartiges und vor allem absolut korrektes Kommentar!
GERMANYFrankie 11 months ago
Enfin... Cela faisait longtemps que je vous attendais...
isabelle070209 2 years ago
Magnifico...Kaufman...Supremo!!!!
Ronit38 2 years ago 2
Ben Heppner may be the greatest Fidelio at the moment but this is still a great singing and acting performance. He is at the top of his game.
Kcallwood 2 years ago
Yes where this performance?
tks
walter neiva
walterneiva 2 years ago
He plays the part ,but ain't the part as Vickers was the part .
Good attempt -he ain't no artist yet .Just another tenor .
Jan2ek 2 years ago
oh come on... He is a magnificent artist. Vickers Florestan is different but he had done the role for years! Kaufmann is not just another tenor, listen to the recordings of Manon in chicago 2008. He does le reve des grieux more musically and beautifully than I have ever heard...
our2howdy 2 years ago 2
And the staging is terrible... he's singing in a box for christs sake.
our2howdy 2 years ago
.....and what is a prison , if not a box....?
pjdonagh 2 years ago 2
umm hello.. it's a prison!! derrr!
OperaSamia 2 years ago
qu est ce que c'est que cette mise en scene? ? ? ?
Michelcamby 2 years ago
la mise en scène nulle certes mais quelle voix!
isabelle070209 2 years ago
oh ! que oui une voix exeptionelle
Michelcamby 2 years ago
Il n'en a que plus de mérite.
isabelle070209 2 years ago
EXACT ISA
MrAinouz 2 years ago
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this is ugly as hell!!!
Learn to hear to real music : Florida ^^rigth round^^ Nas..Simple plan.Green day..
steingrim96 2 years ago
I can´t understand why everbody argues about his ability to sing a Heldentenor. I think he will, but I hope he waits to do so and doesn´t ruin his voice. It would be a great loss. By the way: Hoffmann or Don José are still lyrical pieces. Heldentenor would be Otello, Siegmung, Siegfried, Tristan; maybe Kaiser, Lohengrin, Apollo or Bacchus
WagnerNietzsche 2 years ago
hot hot hot
SelinaBorg 2 years ago
Wonderful execution. Of course the opera helps. Fidelio is the human side of beethoven.
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Stayfrostyandbecool 3 years ago
Interesting. . . he certainly stands out as a performer.
novasafo 3 years ago
This is one of my favourite type of tenor. To be a Heldentenor, you must possess a wide vocal range, high stamina, and an extended dramatic deferment.
hotnumber24 3 years ago
He is NOT a helden tenor. I heard him sing Traviata at LOC and he was inaudible. He can't cut a thick orchestra to save his life. He artificially darkens the sound. Check out his Un Aura Amorosa video. He should be singing Mozart.
searnold56 3 years ago
Yes he is helden tenor. There is no question about it. I'm not sure what you are listening to, but that what he is.
hotnumber24 3 years ago
Hear him live. He's definitely not a helden. It's the only valid point of reference. You can't judge it by a youtube video or a recording.
searnold56 3 years ago
I knew about him way before youtube, so I know what I am saying.
hotnumber24 3 years ago
Ever heard him live in a big house with on the heavy rep he's currently tackling?
searnold56 3 years ago
Actually, I have.
hotnumber24 3 years ago
Really? Where? What piece?
searnold56 3 years ago
He performed in Covent Garden in the year before last in the role of Don Jose in Bizet's Carmen.
hotnumber24 3 years ago
Very very good (except for the first sound)! The end of this aria is one of the most difficult things ever written for the tenor voice, especially for the heavy Heldentenors that are usually employed in this part (without any musical good sense). Listen to René Kollo in the Bernstein recording: he was simply shouting it.
Kaufmann is a bit strange, but at least he knows what head voice is.
The staging is impressive... Probably the director mistook Fidelio for Beckett's Happy Days...
NedRorem 3 years ago
Who else agrees that this man was born to sing Hoffmann (Offenbach)? Why he hasn't yet is beyond me!
KatherineXIX 3 years ago 2
Because nobody has yet offered him to sing it. It's on his wish list.
adinamrnd 3 years ago
Well, damn...I'LL offer it to him! I want to direct operas, and I'm working on an envisionment of that opera. I guess I'd better get cracking ;)
KatherineXIX 3 years ago
His voice is WAY too small to sing Hoffman. It gets absolutely swallowed in the hall
searnold56 3 years ago
that first messa di voce, is very hard for the tenor, because i think is the very first note he sings in the entire opera. I don´t like this opera!!! sorry lol.
cantanteporsiempre 3 years ago
Not quite a messa di voce, a crescendo, but hard yes
agnellodei 3 years ago
You don't like this Opera???? You Have to die soon! Tan ignorante no mereces vivir!
ducadibudapest 3 years ago
He is so handsome! and what a voice!
Sunniwa89 3 years ago 2
oooohhhhh mmyy gooooood !!!!!! Amazing voice !! Thank you Mr kauffmann !! Thank you so much !!
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envious01 3 years ago
Es una hermosísima voz. Yo tengo el CD con Lieder de Strauss y es maravilloso lo que hace en cada uno de ellos. No lo había oído en ópera pero es extraordiario como puede hacer de todo y bien!
Además es un hombre tremendamente atractivo!!
Todo bien!
leonora1970 3 years ago
Estimo que el criterio de "Divamaria" es excesivamente tajante.Pensar que un cantante no tiene Otro que pueda acercarsele no es correcto.El mundo avanza y no siempre el pasado fue mejor.Con ello no digo que Kaufmann sea mejor que Vickers.Solo afirmo que ambos son buenos ,cada uno dentro de sus propios parametros ,con sus propias tonalidades de voz,tecnicas de interpretacion y demas aspectos que intervienen en el canto.Las comparaciones no son justas,porque se tiende a sesgar por gusto subjetivo.
jorgepoveda 3 years ago
Totalmente de acuerdo contigo. Una observacion objetivamente inteligente.
laurabellisoprano 3 years ago
a gentle haunting voice which can also become powerful without harshness, a potent combination - saw him last night in Tosca at the Royal Opera House, no idea beforehand I was going to be in for such a treat, how lucky was that
adalaire 3 years ago
Und sogar ER, DER HERRLICHSTE VON ALLEN und vor Allen herrlicher Florestan dieser Tage, hat Probleme mit diesem mörderischen Ende und schleppt sich "ins himmlische Reich". Seitdem ich den Kopfklangmeister Anton Dermota auf einer Aufnahme unter Karl Böhm habe verrecken hören (Kiekser!), verfluche ich Beethoven für dieses Teufelswerk. Und es ist so schön!
capomastrodicanto 3 years ago
Ich weiss nicht woruber du dich beschwerst. Er singt das doch perfekt!
mdieterk 3 years ago
mdieterk,ich kann im wesentlichen zustimmen, finde es auch verdammt gut. das ende der arie ist zum halsverrenken.
capomastrodicanto 3 years ago
Nice amber-colored dark voice, similar to Richard Tauber, but without Tauber's mannerisms which is nice. He seems to be a good actor as well. His new CD is quite good, especially in the French repertoire.
foothillsbear 3 years ago
Perhaps you are hearing Herr Kaufmann through "nice amber-colored" glasses". To other ears, however, there might be little to remind of Tauber in the Kaufmann voice. Both are tenors and both are unique.
rupepill 3 years ago
Sorry he is full operatic voice and Tauber not!!! Tauber wasn't a full Dramatic voice.
ilbacioditosca 3 years ago
Why be sorry? No doubt you are quite right in pointing out that these are two different voices. If you reread and understand my comment (which in any case made no claim that Tauber had a dramatic voice) you may see that we do agree about that,
rupepill 3 years ago
a Johan Botha he is not
jimbral 3 years ago
Nor is Johan Botha a Jonas Kaufmann....
hightenor123 3 years ago 3
Listen to his Cd of Strauss Lieder. impressionnant. His pianisimo in some as Nacht and some others Lieder, oh! l love this singer. His florestan is so dram and his expression so great, he makes me cry..First line tenor.
joanabanyeres 3 years ago 3
Increible Interpretación.
verdiotello 3 years ago
Jonas Kaufmann sounds very much like a young Jon Vickers indeed. I saw him in Canada many times in several roles. Florestan was one of them. He had a very powerful heldertenor voice and I do not know if Jonas has it. I must check him alive, but the recording is incredible similar. And also a great actor !
fernandobicudo 4 years ago
The similarity is there as far as this recording is concerned but the voice I heard live a couple of years ago was a much thinner sound, nicely darkened (a bit of a controversy there) but not remotely around the Heldentenor Fach.
CONTESTAR 4 years ago
Thank you very much for posting. At last a visually credible Florestan, not a big fat bloke to make me laugh when I hear he is starving to death!! I have ordered the dvd of Fidelio after seeing and hearing this. Beautiful voice, beautiful man, great acting. Thank you again for helping me to choose which dvd to buy.
fideliosmum 4 years ago 3
Doesn't this guy remind any of you of the great Jhon Vickers. For my part is the first time i heard someone with the same character and powerfull voice of old Jhon...! GO JONAS..!
eucanico 4 years ago
He looks great, he is very expressive, he sounds great -- at least here on You Tube. BUT---If you had ever heard Vickers live, you would NEVER even mention these two together. Vickers was an astonishing artist-- voice was ENORMOUS, a great actor, and always in control. Domingo is lighter in comparison to Vickers, and Kaufmann's voice sounds here as though it might be as large as Domingo. Note that Kaufmann is struggling a bit (ie-PUSHING)his throat is tight.
divamaria 4 years ago
He looks great, he is very expressive, he sounds great -- at least here on You Tube. BUT---If you had ever heard Vickers live, you would NEVER even mention these two together. Vickers was an astonishing artist-- voice was ENORMOUS, a great actor, and always in control. Domingo is lighter in comparison to Vickers, and Kaufmann's voice sounds here as though it might be as large as Domingo. Note that Kaufmann is struggling a bit (ie-PUSHING)his throat is tight.
divamaria 4 years ago
Ach Gott ist der schoen und singen kann er auch.
Perfidiame 4 years ago 2
He had very good teachers Hotter, King... This is a great tenor no problems and if we start looking the way he sings, all tenores even Damingo , Pavarotti and.... com They al have something. Jonas is great and good looking thanks. thanks.
joanabanyeres 4 years ago 2
I made myself a promise not to answer silly comments.
voce29 4 years ago
For me he is the german José Cura...
PosasPizza 4 years ago 4
Yes and no. Kaufmann's voice is growing and getting better. I'm not sure about Cura lasting much longer.
jetsetjordan 4 years ago 2