Dont worry most of us Turks are not so keen on joining your damn union anyway, please keep your union for your self. Its just the politicians who are willing to go on with the process.
Did any of your realize that there are no muslim countries in european union?
it seem to me that EU is the new ''Rome'' or a new modern byzantine?
okay those were all personal idea's so it could be wrong,
could you imagine that the Ottoman Empire would be a part of the EU? i don't think so.. and the reality is that we the citizens of Turkey are the grandchilderen of the Ottoman Empire makes everything clear...
EU Doesn't want us , like we don't relaly want them...
How can you can't be muslim and yet part of europe? mr zakaria, in albania and bosania and serbia and bulgaria live many NATIVE muslim, and those muslims are european, they didn't came from asia, so why does europe see itself as pure christian? when in states like Norway France and UK, 60% of the population sees itself as atheist, ain't that ignorance?
Türk Birliğini istemeyenin aklını , beynini , anasını , Çinliler , Ruslar , Amerikalılar ve Avrupalılar siksin ! Babasıda bu yolda Araplara avrat olsun !!
Why don't we invite China to become part of Europe too? That would be really good for the economy right? Lets make the EU more like "euro"vision and open it up to israel, azerbaijan, african countries etc..
How can one even consider allowing a backward country like Turkey join the EU when they don't even recognize basic human rights? Converting to another religion other than islam will land you in jail for years. They claim they are a civilized sociiety--- a joke.
Turkey should forge a Union with all the Turkic speaking countries like Turkomanistan , Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, Kazakistan, Kirgizkistan and Tajikistan. With this union they wont need to join europe and also they will form a Turkic/Arab/Aryan alliance of Islamic Union.
sorry, no one wants Turkey to join EU, atleast the majority of Europeans don;t and rightly so!! no one wants so many Turks to immigrate to Europe, already Europe faces problems with integration of the muslims and they have caused a lot of conflict and violence!!! No until muslims can learn to live in peace with others, then they should not be allowed in Europe.
Couldnt agree more. Joining EU would not be beneficial for Turkey in the long run, but as for an antithesis for 'Clash of Civilizations' this would definetely prove useful and lead to a better world.
turkey they dont need europe I am very sure earth is not europe we are turks we do not want be part about europe ever never we do not want only problem our dam goverment who they ass lickers:) well we need to make turkey second china we need to work hard we have all kind tools we do not need europe but i give u puromise for future europe will need to turkey thank u:)
European states MUST check their curriculum and remove the racist, hate remarks asgainst Turks and Islam from their education system. Otherwise unfortunately we are be bound to see more Hitlers. In fact we've already seen just 15 years ago in Serbia under the name of " Milosevic" the butcher. Islamophobia and anti-Turkic education system throughout many states in Europe is a shame for the human kind in 21st century.
If anyone in the west is an enemy to Turks like your church invited you to do so, it is a good thing. So "you" have granted a place in heaven. Congrats...
Turkey is the only secular and most democratic also most modern of Islam countries. We are used to living with foreign people from Ottaman Empire. We had a lot greeks, rums,armeanians, kurds. Sure we exchange population cause west learned how to propaganda so no one could've take the risk.
I dont understand this crazy man. What arab world got to do with Turkey, I just dont get his point of view! I am an arab and I dont care if Turkey join or not EU. It is their business. What a stupid question. We never been close to Turkey till recently because of their translated TV shows. if they get it then Mabrook. and if they dont hard luck.
Under the probable outcome that Turkey doesn't join EU, they still have at least 2 good options, instead of joining a Middle East Union: 1 of them is to join an Eurasian community which already exists (the Eurasec), and what is necessary for that: 1 - both Russia and Turkey agree on that, 2 - having a big support among the turkic countries that are part of it. It could also remain outside EU, like other European countries, while mantaining the progress: E.G.: Like Norway
the EU should be working even harder to include Turkey by making it more secular instead of trying to exclude it and risky Turkey aligning itself with Islamic fundamentalists.
I must agree. If EU keeps denying Turkey, the country will become more Muslim. EU will help us more secular for sure. That's why I want to be part of the union.
Before Turkey even thinks about joining the EU, how about the stupid government removes its disgusting libel laws and restore the separation of church of state, which has been eroding fast as of late.
Thank you, Shukran jazelan brother. Yes, turkish and arab people, and pakistani, afghani, indonezian people, all muslims have brothership. Noone can destroy our brothership
Yeah, you guys have Bulgaria and Romania haha, 2 gipsy countries you're so proud of lol, Istanbuls economy is already larger than 9 EU countries, we don't need EU, it is becoming old very fast, in 2050 Europe will be nothing anymore
first of all what the fuck we have to do with arabs, Majority of turks dont even like arabs, because majority of Turks are muslims doesnt mean we have act like arabs.Turkey is SECURALIST STATE.
85% of Turks dont want EU!!! WE WANT TURKIC UNION IN MIDDLE EAST, WE WANTED THIS SINCE THE FALL OF OTTOMANS. NOT LONG LEFT, WHEN EU SAYS YES PLEASE JOIN US WATCH WHEN TURKEY SHOWS THE FINGER!
@kuzey03 Türk Birliğini istemeyenin aklını , beynini , anasını , Çinliler , Ruslar , Amerikalılar ve Avrupalılar siksin ! Babasıda bu yolda Araplara avrat olsun !!
Why is the West so so OBSESSED with forcing people to be like them? Everyone does not want to be Western or Secular. America has the largest prison and insane asylum rate in the world. We need to worry about our own problems.
I am Turkish and macedonian origion, I am not a muslim neither. So, Turkey is not an islamic country but secular. We have no relations with arabic countries, even we don't like arabs! So this man better shut the fuck up and get interested in his low educated arabic countries not in Turkey!
The culture in the EU has been raped and btw turks dont want to join EU its all about politics like CombatSambo83 said before SO FUCK YOU RACIST HATERS OUT THERE
@cal2mon most dont want to join the EU because they look at the small picture but look at the big one Turkey has 72 million and counting living their and Germany has 80 something million and alot are turkish in a few years Turkey will have the most seats in the EU and will be able to dominate the EU and if anything Turkey would become the EU's powerhouse. So imagine how awesome that would be Northern Cyrpus wont be independant! Ok no power for you and were still gonna vote it so suck it :P
i dont get it...im sick of this BShow does joining EU make you a more modern country..is Canada Us and Australia in EU? is South Korea in EU no it isnt..if ataturk was alive we wouldnt even think of joining EU
joining the EU means more economic oppertunities, and means less unemployment rates, and easier trade with europe, and more investments from European Rich states...
why would the arab world care if turkey joined the eu i personally am i arab and ill be happy if they do it would be great but the arabs are a combination of 24 states we have to unite so we can tackle our issues like fcking israel and the iraq war and oil and settlements
thats what they are doing... Arabs in the Arab League, Iran in the Economic Cooperation organization, and Turkey in the EU... and ISrael, well, its already an American state... right!
He doesn't know what he's talking about. The fundamentalists have long rejected the principles of the Turkish republic. They consider Ataturk as one of the great betrayers of Islam. Turkey joining the EU would be to them simply a continuation of that traitorous legacy. And Dubai is a soulless pleasure palace, even liberal Muslims can see that. Zakaria is cog of mainstream American media, who just happens to look rather different from the other cogs.
i'm european and got nothing against Turkey in EU, as long as they keep a liberal view on the main issue which is religion.
i'm a christian by birth and atheist by choice,that doesnt mean i like having more fundamentalists around here;i already have debates with all the zealot christians,i dont need fundamentalist muslims too :P
all in all i dont see why they shouldnt join eventually.
i understand perfectly well you filthy mongol turk......its not just the government who wants to be part of the e.u. its also turkish people. they think that being part of europe will make them seem civilized......they are wrong. you people are just as backwards as the rest of the muslim world. so fuck off you filthy muslim cunt. you dont belong to europe and you never will......we dont want you.
The reason Turkey want's to join europe because nobody want's them, not even the chinese like theyre Uighurs.The kazakhs are good friend of the russians,Iran are shia,Kurds fight them all the time.Iraq is US controlled etc....
They will never join, europe doesn't want them ~80%
Dont worry most of us Turks are not so keen on joining your damn union anyway, please keep your union for your self. Its just the politicians who are willing to go on with the process.
what the hell are you talking about. All of my family members are Turks and almost all of my Turkish friends want to be in the EU because we are a modern county.
what is wrong with you?? its not about you being a modern country.....its about turkey not being a european country!!!! dont you get that???? turkey is in ASIA not in EUROPE....and turkish culture is NOT european. understand now??? europeans DO NOT WANT YOU.
To point an issue, why would the Turkish Modernity prohibit Muslim Turkish Women to wear Hijab in Universities? while it's allowed, almost, in all of the Western World.
lol muslims are also becoming like christains...they dont change themselves rather change their scriptures..they want to but Inshallah it will never..Keep trying so called brothers in Islam.
who gives a shit what arabs think, turkey come to europe, you have your muslim brothers here kosovo, albania, bosnia, sanjak,Macedonia, we like you. Arabs hated you with english against kalifa.
EUROPE NEEDS ISTAMBUL, EUROPE NEEDS TURKISH BEAUTIFUL COAST, EUROPE NEEDS TARKAN
Yes. People should listen critically what Zakaria truly is saying. He's s part of a group of people which offers support to the AKP in Turkey, and which wants Turkey to identify with the Arabic-speaking countries - not the other way around. It's not Atatürk and the tolerant Anatolian Islam he promotes. It's the anti-humanist, terrorist materialist mentality of Dubai and S. Arabia he promotes in Turkey, which seculars have to acept and relativize if they want to be "liberal, European, modern".
Woow! Look how civilised the Europeans are... Just read their comments on the page. They can not even stand listening to ideas that they do not agree with. You will probably swear to me for my comment too. Well done guys...
Your the idiot....is that what they teach you in Turkish schools MORON.......Byzantine is Greco Roman ..and your the big idiot not me....go back and cook some more kebabs they getting black..
Turkey is an ancient civilization ??? well thats an error if i ever saw one......Ancient civilization is Greece here ..Turkey is "new-kid"on the block........maybe 1000 years and thats being kind.............get your facts straight Arab....ok
I think China should be allowed to join the EU. It makes sense. I mean Genghis Khan dominated China, and then he came and dominated Europe. Rumor is he left because his visa expired, but that doesn't change a thing. China deserves to be a part of Europe! Why do Westerners want to exclude China? Racism!
can you understand English? My comment is 100% sarcasm! BTW I went for Turkish food tonight, awesome. There are lots of Turks over here in South China.
Many Turks are stupid?! Who comes up with this stuff? Yes there are rural areas were people are less educated, same as in any country, but if you visit Ankara or any other major city in Turkey you'd be surprised how modern, westernized and secular everything is.
We have lots of Turks living in Holland and compared to most other minorities they do very well, are generally well educated and well employed.
Then you should allow all the regions within Europe (and the rest of the world for that matter) to seceed so they may be sovereign. Are you willing to accept this? Watch what you say!
The West should show not just the Islamic world, what modernity means but actually the entire world by ridding this cancer from Gaia once and for all. More talks about Turkey to ascend to Europe plus a few more Muslim spleens and natural disasters and the west will hopefully have a change of heart on its hole liberal socialist stance.
How do you explain Dubai. This Arab scumbags are the worst capitalist there are, considering them Muslims is a farce.
wel yea turkeys muslim % is far lesst han 99%. It is a fact that a new born turkish baby or a citizen is automaticaly recorded as muslim in turkish world unless one bothers to go and change it. Untill than it remains as "muslim". Alot are different religion and alot have stoped believing, its a natural thing but i guess for the other countries they see turkey as all muslim
yea i agree. well there is nothing "bad" about turkey being muslim. and hates to hear that arab's have anythin to do with Turkiye's business.. and call them traitors? like they never knew what they did in history. And rather than being liek "them", turkey should play smart, like what they are trying to do. Modernise the country, but still exist as an islamic country. thats no betray or anything. unless again, they are jealous =) just bcoz we treat women the same as men? or "try" to.. good enouf
then it is too bad , turkey is not part of asia .. aw nerdy .
turkiye is the only country which is neither in Europe or asia.. its called anatolia. learn ur facts. we are not in either side. BUT, more involved in European activites, policies. well, im sorry things are like this but i didnt choose it to be this way, and fuck un, im happy in my country. i dont care.
In all maps you belong in asia. The only place where turkey is european is your retarded brain. The name anatolia is a greek foundation. Turks call it anatolu. Anatolia is the greek original word. Stay happy in your country and don't care. We will be all happy that way.
Not anatolu,its anadolu. Anatolia is the word most english use, if i said the ones i use he wouldnt understand. i didnt say Turkiye was european or neither i said i wanted it to be European. I know in that place there are more fuckers like you, that don't know how to read and just blindly say what they want to say.. and ur first language for fucks sake! but human foolishness never ends so i don't mind being looked as different, rather than being smart and upsetting myself with fools like you..!
are you treating ottomans like this because, they didnt burn down Vienna after invasion, like napelion did? or they gave water to enemy soldiers before death, and prayed for the deads even they belonged to the other side..
well, we are used to it :) and we are 80 million, we will never give up and protect our rights. and if you have the guts make us stay in where we are :) *spit on ur face for being so stupid -.-"
Fareed Zakaria doesn't know shit. First off why does he think of being western and being modern as the same thing? Secondly, Turkey is not an ancient country, it's a mideval one which began with the migration in the 15th century. Read a book dumb ass.
To be far islam is still young for the Turkic peoples. We were shamanic for a very long time and many still are in north east asia. As Ataturk said, "Turks were a great race before islam."
The biggest empires were not islamic, also the Turkic mongols put an end to islamic arab power in the 13th century. Turks almost wiped islam of the face of earth.
The term Turk existed long before Mongol. Just in case you didn't know, nearly all if not all Turkic empires were never named the Turkish empire. Hence Osmanli, Seljuk, Timurids, Ohguz, Huns, Berbers of india, Mongols, Khazars etc.
Some were shamanic, muslim and christan. Also the first jewish empire was Turkish, the Khazars.
The jews of israel mainly stem from a Turkic branch. Thus they have no historical claim to those lands what so ever.
Turks are an ancient race. 20 empires and counting. Before Turkey much of europe was Turkish. We came to Turkey late in the day. current day holland was the first country Turks settled in around 200AD. Migrations really began in the 11th century with the seljuks. However the Khazars were in poland/unkraine/Caucauses.
Atilla the Hun was around 400. Sometimes my dates are off, but their are others who were there of Turkic descent. Anyway I was making the point that the Turks extend from east europe to east asia, some look white, some are dark and others look asian. Some are christian, most muslim, some shamanic, buddish and jewish.
Yet you are still wrong. Attila the hun never invaded Holland. He invaded Benelux through Belgium and moved down to Paris/Orleans. See the battle of chalons for more information. Anyway his expedition (+/- 1 year looting around) could hardly be considered as an annexion of the visited countries. Otherwise France has been vikings/Swedish too.
"Turan" search for it on youtube. It gives a general overview of Turkic locations and lands conquered. Most of europe has been under Turkic rule in its history. This is my point, just like most of arabia has. The Turks are a seperate race who have conquered the chinise / Persians / Greeks / Arabs / Rus / Anglo-germanic peoples etc.
The video talks about the arab world, the arab world is different to the Turks, just like the rothschild owned eu is. This grouping mentality is not for us.
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No I am Eruopean and we do not want Turkey in EU. They barely touch Eruopean!Turkey has been killing Christians for centurieshave controlled their Churches and activities of christians in Turkey. It was a big mistake for Europe to let this big Muslim Invasion. Muslim want to take over Europe laws adn freedom! Soon Turkey will join into a new Meditaranean Community with its Muslim African brothers!Tha tis where they belong and not in EU
dmokri if u never wanted turkey to be so much western well blame europe for that.
they have many connections with turkey thats why whe became so western too. turkey and germany are extremely close friends.ever saw a turkish or german commercial? the first phone number of a country is turkey or germany. and there are like 3 mil.germans in turkey and around 2 mil.turkish in germany. why wouldnt you like us? what terroristic act have whe ever done? whe go on our own legs. whe dont need the arabs.
gud talk. spelled "we" dont get me wrong. good talk.. good point. what terrorist act have the turkish people done ? and yet many europeans hate them. lucky i have a country like Turkiye, where we all stand for each other. So i cant bother less for people hating us. im blinded by the love of my country =)and it is great! (resepct every1)
Dont worry most of us Turks are not so keen on joining your damn union anyway, please keep your union for your self. Its just the politicians who are willing to go on with the process.
oliveparadise 3 weeks ago
turkey cant join there is 95% european agains him.
SorrybutJebiga 1 month ago
Did any of your realize that there are no muslim countries in european union?
it seem to me that EU is the new ''Rome'' or a new modern byzantine?
okay those were all personal idea's so it could be wrong,
could you imagine that the Ottoman Empire would be a part of the EU? i don't think so.. and the reality is that we the citizens of Turkey are the grandchilderen of the Ottoman Empire makes everything clear...
EU Doesn't want us , like we don't relaly want them...
RisalePsTutorials 1 month ago
How can you can't be muslim and yet part of europe? mr zakaria, in albania and bosania and serbia and bulgaria live many NATIVE muslim, and those muslims are european, they didn't came from asia, so why does europe see itself as pure christian? when in states like Norway France and UK, 60% of the population sees itself as atheist, ain't that ignorance?
psmx7 2 months ago
Türk Birliğini istemeyenin aklını , beynini , anasını , Çinliler , Ruslar , Amerikalılar ve Avrupalılar siksin ! Babasıda bu yolda Araplara avrat olsun !!
emrelupus 4 months ago
@cryfreeedom damn right !! lmfao
nagamora 6 months ago
Why don't we invite China to become part of Europe too? That would be really good for the economy right? Lets make the EU more like "euro"vision and open it up to israel, azerbaijan, african countries etc..
How can one even consider allowing a backward country like Turkey join the EU when they don't even recognize basic human rights? Converting to another religion other than islam will land you in jail for years. They claim they are a civilized sociiety--- a joke.
Europe for europeans only
TPS996 8 months ago
Turkey should forge a Union with all the Turkic speaking countries like Turkomanistan , Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, Kazakistan, Kirgizkistan and Tajikistan. With this union they wont need to join europe and also they will form a Turkic/Arab/Aryan alliance of Islamic Union.
Pashtunlad 9 months ago
sorry, no one wants Turkey to join EU, atleast the majority of Europeans don;t and rightly so!! no one wants so many Turks to immigrate to Europe, already Europe faces problems with integration of the muslims and they have caused a lot of conflict and violence!!! No until muslims can learn to live in peace with others, then they should not be allowed in Europe.
phantomsuccour 9 months ago
Couldnt agree more. Joining EU would not be beneficial for Turkey in the long run, but as for an antithesis for 'Clash of Civilizations' this would definetely prove useful and lead to a better world.
anilaxel 9 months ago
turkey they dont need europe I am very sure earth is not europe we are turks we do not want be part about europe ever never we do not want only problem our dam goverment who they ass lickers:) well we need to make turkey second china we need to work hard we have all kind tools we do not need europe but i give u puromise for future europe will need to turkey thank u:)
zambiaturk 10 months ago
European states MUST check their curriculum and remove the racist, hate remarks asgainst Turks and Islam from their education system. Otherwise unfortunately we are be bound to see more Hitlers. In fact we've already seen just 15 years ago in Serbia under the name of " Milosevic" the butcher. Islamophobia and anti-Turkic education system throughout many states in Europe is a shame for the human kind in 21st century.
TheKaratepe 10 months ago
If anyone in the west is an enemy to Turks like your church invited you to do so, it is a good thing. So "you" have granted a place in heaven. Congrats...
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TheKaratepe 10 months ago
europeans hate us
we hate eurropa also
fuck they
OKNZMN 11 months ago
@OKNZMN U live a Europe and hate it?! I don't get u scharia bastards ...
pianoomg 11 months ago
Turkey is the only secular and most democratic also most modern of Islam countries. We are used to living with foreign people from Ottaman Empire. We had a lot greeks, rums,armeanians, kurds. Sure we exchange population cause west learned how to propaganda so no one could've take the risk.
CMKaplan 1 year ago
I dont understand this crazy man. What arab world got to do with Turkey, I just dont get his point of view! I am an arab and I dont care if Turkey join or not EU. It is their business. What a stupid question. We never been close to Turkey till recently because of their translated TV shows. if they get it then Mabrook. and if they dont hard luck.
justicearso 1 year ago
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Welcometomylife2441 1 year ago
Under the probable outcome that Turkey doesn't join EU, they still have at least 2 good options, instead of joining a Middle East Union: 1 of them is to join an Eurasian community which already exists (the Eurasec), and what is necessary for that: 1 - both Russia and Turkey agree on that, 2 - having a big support among the turkic countries that are part of it. It could also remain outside EU, like other European countries, while mantaining the progress: E.G.: Like Norway
nmgscp 1 year ago
the EU should be working even harder to include Turkey by making it more secular instead of trying to exclude it and risky Turkey aligning itself with Islamic fundamentalists.
frankystein12 1 year ago
@frankystein12
I must agree. If EU keeps denying Turkey, the country will become more Muslim. EU will help us more secular for sure. That's why I want to be part of the union.
TurkishAD 1 year ago
@TurkishAD turkey is muslim country
momuse3 1 year ago
Before Turkey even thinks about joining the EU, how about the stupid government removes its disgusting libel laws and restore the separation of church of state, which has been eroding fast as of late.
frankystein12 1 year ago
Arabian Knights stormed out of the desert to spread ALLAH's Words & the world was ruled by MUSLIMS!
Ottoman Turks were later given the Flag by ALLAH & again the world was ruled by MUSLIMS!
Long live Arab & Turkic worlds.
Glory be to Islam, Glory be to the Sultans.
NO to nationalism! Muslims have a duty to spread Justice on this earth.
The Mahdi will be in Istanbul & Mecca.
Jesus is our next leader.
Glory be to Arabs and Turks.
Long live Islamic world. We will RULE again!
ArabianRhythm 1 year ago
sorry but arabs and turks are minority in muslim population so stop makin du'a only small portion of what 15% of thne totral 1.5 billion people
yunaas101 1 year ago
@ArabianRhythm blow you're self up Al-Quaida f*ckah
iownage4youi 1 year ago
Thank you, Shukran jazelan brother. Yes, turkish and arab people, and pakistani, afghani, indonezian people, all muslims have brothership. Noone can destroy our brothership
turkuaz1962 1 year ago
No Turkey in EU.
Turkey's culture is totally alien to europe
No Turkey in the eu
end of!
Gregory10000000000 2 years ago
@Gregory10000000000
Yeah, you guys have Bulgaria and Romania haha, 2 gipsy countries you're so proud of lol, Istanbuls economy is already larger than 9 EU countries, we don't need EU, it is becoming old very fast, in 2050 Europe will be nothing anymore
gezerbey 2 years ago
yes that right you dont hnave to join this stupid hommo league called european union
yunaas101 1 year ago
albania is 70% muslum and will join the eu too.
kingofcb1900 2 years ago
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WE DONT CARE WHAT THE ARABS WANT.
WE ARE NOT ARABIC NOT EVEN ALLIED WITH YOU SCUM and never were. and were not middle eastern.
OzNoble 2 years ago
first of all what the fuck we have to do with arabs, Majority of turks dont even like arabs, because majority of Turks are muslims doesnt mean we have act like arabs.Turkey is SECURALIST STATE.
DEVRIMCI2007 2 years ago
85% of Turks dont want EU!!! WE WANT TURKIC UNION IN MIDDLE EAST, WE WANTED THIS SINCE THE FALL OF OTTOMANS. NOT LONG LEFT, WHEN EU SAYS YES PLEASE JOIN US WATCH WHEN TURKEY SHOWS THE FINGER!
DenizliUK 2 years ago
talk for yourself! I dont want turkic union!
kuzey03 2 years ago 6
@kuzey03 Türk Birliğini istemeyenin aklını , beynini , anasını , Çinliler , Ruslar , Amerikalılar ve Avrupalılar siksin ! Babasıda bu yolda Araplara avrat olsun !!
emrelupus 4 months ago
Why is the West so so OBSESSED with forcing people to be like them? Everyone does not want to be Western or Secular. America has the largest prison and insane asylum rate in the world. We need to worry about our own problems.
newtype64 2 years ago
I am Turkish and macedonian origion, I am not a muslim neither. So, Turkey is not an islamic country but secular. We have no relations with arabic countries, even we don't like arabs! So this man better shut the fuck up and get interested in his low educated arabic countries not in Turkey!
kuzey03 2 years ago 3
The culture in the EU has been raped and btw turks dont want to join EU its all about politics like CombatSambo83 said before SO FUCK YOU RACIST HATERS OUT THERE
padisaha 2 years ago
How has culture in the EU been 'raped'? if anything it's become more emphasised and become a larger priority among the values of the European Union.
cal2mon 1 year ago
@cal2mon most dont want to join the EU because they look at the small picture but look at the big one Turkey has 72 million and counting living their and Germany has 80 something million and alot are turkish in a few years Turkey will have the most seats in the EU and will be able to dominate the EU and if anything Turkey would become the EU's powerhouse. So imagine how awesome that would be Northern Cyrpus wont be independant! Ok no power for you and were still gonna vote it so suck it :P
Batibeti 11 months ago
im turk and i dont want to be european..
Proud of being middle eastern
ispep00 2 years ago 3
so go to middle east!
kuzey03 2 years ago
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well we aint middle eastern...
DEVRIMCI2007 2 years ago
Zakaria expresses the secularist view accepted by the US. Europeans have both a different view and set of issues to resolve.
Athenaikos 2 years ago
LOVE TURKIYE
LOVE THE PEOPLE
DOESN'T MATTER WHERE FROM
WE ARE ALL THE SAME..
WAKE UP! WAKE UP! WAKE UP!
FOR FUCKS SAKE CONCANTRATE ON SIMILARITIES THERE ARE SO MUCH MORE... LOL HUMAN RACE SOMETIMES SO STUPIDDDDDDDDDD :'( (cries)
beeeeeeerkXD 2 years ago
i dont get it...im sick of this BShow does joining EU make you a more modern country..is Canada Us and Australia in EU? is South Korea in EU no it isnt..if ataturk was alive we wouldnt even think of joining EU
TurkFutbol10 2 years ago
joining the EU means more economic oppertunities, and means less unemployment rates, and easier trade with europe, and more investments from European Rich states...
Ahmedhafez 2 years ago 2
good point but then again once we are in we are not going to be as independent
TurkFutbol10 2 years ago
why would the arab world care if turkey joined the eu i personally am i arab and ill be happy if they do it would be great but the arabs are a combination of 24 states we have to unite so we can tackle our issues like fcking israel and the iraq war and oil and settlements
waszzam23 2 years ago 4
we are not arabs u dick
DEVRIMCI2007 2 years ago
Middle East states should be preoccupied with creating a union of their own.
maghra 2 years ago 2
thats what they are doing... Arabs in the Arab League, Iran in the Economic Cooperation organization, and Turkey in the EU... and ISrael, well, its already an American state... right!
Ahmedhafez 2 years ago
He doesn't know what he's talking about. The fundamentalists have long rejected the principles of the Turkish republic. They consider Ataturk as one of the great betrayers of Islam. Turkey joining the EU would be to them simply a continuation of that traitorous legacy. And Dubai is a soulless pleasure palace, even liberal Muslims can see that. Zakaria is cog of mainstream American media, who just happens to look rather different from the other cogs.
shehzadshah 2 years ago 2
i'm european and got nothing against Turkey in EU, as long as they keep a liberal view on the main issue which is religion.
i'm a christian by birth and atheist by choice,that doesnt mean i like having more fundamentalists around here;i already have debates with all the zealot christians,i dont need fundamentalist muslims too :P
all in all i dont see why they shouldnt join eventually.
good day my turkish amigos.
SBuzdy 2 years ago
turkey is the number one holiday choice for europeans because it is so fucking cheap dumb ass.......your money is worth next to nothing.
nickpafras 2 years ago
i understand perfectly well you filthy mongol turk......its not just the government who wants to be part of the e.u. its also turkish people. they think that being part of europe will make them seem civilized......they are wrong. you people are just as backwards as the rest of the muslim world. so fuck off you filthy muslim cunt. you dont belong to europe and you never will......we dont want you.
nickpafras 2 years ago
just ask Recip Tayyip Erdogan who wants to be part of E.U.
nickpafras 2 years ago
The reason Turkey want's to join europe because nobody want's them, not even the chinese like theyre Uighurs.The kazakhs are good friend of the russians,Iran are shia,Kurds fight them all the time.Iraq is US controlled etc....
They will never join, europe doesn't want them ~80%
lu120499 2 years ago
i grew up in eurup and they hate turkish ppl
turkey will never be an eurupian country
TheArabicDream 2 years ago 12
fuck off where did you know dirty arabian are you turkish fuck off!
SBlackSession 2 years ago
i know !!!!
turks are like dogs for germans or austria
i love turkey but that is the truth
TheArabicDream 2 years ago
so they like arabs ? who cares they hate turks because they are srtong people
yunaas101 1 year ago
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@TheArabicDream
Dont worry most of us Turks are not so keen on joining your damn union anyway, please keep your union for your self. Its just the politicians who are willing to go on with the process.
oliveparadise 3 weeks ago
Yes Turkey and Lebanon and Israel/Palestine and Morocco and Egypt and Russia and then the whole of Africa as well.
They all become part of "European" union.
It's time to make clear where Europe's borders are they start at the Bosphorus and the Mediterranean sea and go up across part of Russia.
That is Europe not somewhere in Africa or Asia.
Batavian187 2 years ago
africa is africa no one confuses africa for europe you are retarded
yunaas101 1 year ago
80% of real Turks doo not want to join europe they want TURAN turkish union..
europes aim was always the same invade muslim world rule them and killl..
if turkey does join european union then they would dare to inviade muslim countrisss
BlackScorpian38 2 years ago 4
what the hell are you talking about. All of my family members are Turks and almost all of my Turkish friends want to be in the EU because we are a modern county.
wizmurat 2 years ago
what is wrong with you?? its not about you being a modern country.....its about turkey not being a european country!!!! dont you get that???? turkey is in ASIA not in EUROPE....and turkish culture is NOT european. understand now??? europeans DO NOT WANT YOU.
nickpafras 2 years ago
Modern my ASS..
To point an issue, why would the Turkish Modernity prohibit Muslim Turkish Women to wear Hijab in Universities? while it's allowed, almost, in all of the Western World.
samibigboss 2 years ago
lol muslims are also becoming like christains...they dont change themselves rather change their scriptures..they want to but Inshallah it will never..Keep trying so called brothers in Islam.
PakAfghan1 2 years ago
you are fucking stupid ,,i dont argue with you
crzTurk 2 years ago
turkey in asia but people are caucasian, what a heck?
forevermore23 2 years ago
who gives a shit what arabs think, turkey come to europe, you have your muslim brothers here kosovo, albania, bosnia, sanjak,Macedonia, we like you. Arabs hated you with english against kalifa.
EUROPE NEEDS ISTAMBUL, EUROPE NEEDS TURKISH BEAUTIFUL COAST, EUROPE NEEDS TARKAN
MonotheismForever 2 years ago 4
w0000000000000000000000t!
WE LOVE EUROPE!
whoever you are, i can tell you are an honest person who does not get corrupted easily by those who lie about our culture. :D
wizmurat 2 years ago
Any way Turkey belongs to Muslim world its part of Khilafah.
lonovik 2 years ago 3
You could put the khilafa in the bin, them days are other.
DEVRIMCI2007 2 years ago
Nope its not in Bin, If puppets of western nations in Muslim countries continue to suppress freedom than Khilafah is unavoidable.
lonovik 2 years ago
Turkey is western nation , anti-religouis and freedom.. you and your muslim ranking things are over
DEVRIMCI2007 2 years ago
You are wrong, Turky is Muslim nation, Europeans are never going to accept Turkey, They will have to come back to Asian nation again.
lonovik 2 years ago
since when was turkey asian or european so you are using that word "again" ...
r u educated?
beeeeeeerkXD 2 years ago
well we are asian...dude not saying your wrong just wrong on that part
TurkFutbol10 2 years ago
Nope European thugs will not allow any Muslim country.
lonovik 2 years ago
turkey will join europe, face the facts!
berkbbx3 3 years ago 2
and yeah.. cant compare dubai s way of islam with turkey.. turkey is more modern! .. asshole
beeeeeeerkXD 3 years ago
We is the old islamic Turkey " ottoman " : (
they were strong back then .. but now !! shame
h3mmod1990 3 years ago
WE dont care if turkey joined the EU..turkey is secular..why would we care??
WE ARABS DONT CARE..FK OFF
Libanska 3 years ago
unless ur jealous. u cant stab us from behind anymore.. maybe bcuz ur arms cannot reach since ur left so far behind!
beeeeeeerkXD 3 years ago
He doesn't knows what he's speaking Turkey must join the EU
vampireslayerbuffy 3 years ago
arab world?is europe ready?frankly i think europe is fuckd if trukey comes in.
oratorspeaker 3 years ago
You can not compare Turkey and Dubai!
ie: women rights!
turkishprincess 3 years ago 2
Yes. People should listen critically what Zakaria truly is saying. He's s part of a group of people which offers support to the AKP in Turkey, and which wants Turkey to identify with the Arabic-speaking countries - not the other way around. It's not Atatürk and the tolerant Anatolian Islam he promotes. It's the anti-humanist, terrorist materialist mentality of Dubai and S. Arabia he promotes in Turkey, which seculars have to acept and relativize if they want to be "liberal, European, modern".
TheSublimeArt 2 years ago
Woow! Look how civilised the Europeans are... Just read their comments on the page. They can not even stand listening to ideas that they do not agree with. You will probably swear to me for my comment too. Well done guys...
oyanarisik 3 years ago 3
haha
beeeeeeerkXD 3 years ago
Your the idiot....is that what they teach you in Turkish schools MORON.......Byzantine is Greco Roman ..and your the big idiot not me....go back and cook some more kebabs they getting black..
sotos1950 3 years ago
Turkey is an ancient civilization ??? well thats an error if i ever saw one......Ancient civilization is Greece here ..Turkey is "new-kid"on the block........maybe 1000 years and thats being kind.............get your facts straight Arab....ok
sotos1950 3 years ago
I think China should be allowed to join the EU. It makes sense. I mean Genghis Khan dominated China, and then he came and dominated Europe. Rumor is he left because his visa expired, but that doesn't change a thing. China deserves to be a part of Europe! Why do Westerners want to exclude China? Racism!
hkjonus 3 years ago
hkjonus...don't you think china is a bit too far to be in EU?
hippetiehoppetie 3 years ago 2
can you understand English? My comment is 100% sarcasm! BTW I went for Turkish food tonight, awesome. There are lots of Turks over here in South China.
hkjonus 3 years ago
Turkey will never be allowed in Europe,
They have too much problems and first of all they have to start with giving the Kurds their rights.. and let them be a Country.
Second is they got Problem with Greece and Armenians..
And 3th Turkey is moder with buildings.. but the people there in Turkey aren't modern but still old and many of them stupid.
--Keifi--
keifi 3 years ago
Go shit on yourself. You're the one that's stupid. Where did you even get that stuff? More than 50% of the Turks are 35 year old and younger
Randam538 3 years ago 3
Many Turks are stupid?! Who comes up with this stuff? Yes there are rural areas were people are less educated, same as in any country, but if you visit Ankara or any other major city in Turkey you'd be surprised how modern, westernized and secular everything is.
We have lots of Turks living in Holland and compared to most other minorities they do very well, are generally well educated and well employed.
megamarsvin 3 years ago 4
Then you should allow all the regions within Europe (and the rest of the world for that matter) to seceed so they may be sovereign. Are you willing to accept this? Watch what you say!
jcnyut000000000000 3 years ago
I think Turkey will be in the EU and enables islam world to develop more and more islam world would be greater than before inshallah
osmantan1 3 years ago 3
inshAllah
ZionistWorldOrder 3 years ago
And...no islam...leave religion to yourself!
jcnyut000000000000 3 years ago
The West should show not just the Islamic world, what modernity means but actually the entire world by ridding this cancer from Gaia once and for all. More talks about Turkey to ascend to Europe plus a few more Muslim spleens and natural disasters and the west will hopefully have a change of heart on its hole liberal socialist stance.
How do you explain Dubai. This Arab scumbags are the worst capitalist there are, considering them Muslims is a farce.
Valinomycin 3 years ago
Just in case anyone doesn't know, Turks are not arabs
yoldiflop 4 years ago 4
What does the Arab world have to do with Turkey?
melkormgc 4 years ago
islam duh
shikatiker 4 years ago 3
So is the Arab world ready for Bosnia-Herzegovina to join the EU or whatever Malaysia is up to?
melkormgc 4 years ago
Bosnia is different in bosnia 40% is muslim and bosnia is a lot smaller, turkey is a bridge to the islam world
shikatiker 4 years ago
Yes but turks are not Arabs so its not the Arab worlds business.
melkormgc 4 years ago 8
It,s not about being arab but muslim, turkey is 99% muslim devolped country
shikatiker 4 years ago
I think that 99% is a myth. Although many would "say" they're muslim if they're asked, the percentage of "real" muslims are far less.
I think a study taking "mosque attendance" as an indicator of religiosity would be of good use for Turkey.
melkormgc 4 years ago
wel yea turkeys muslim % is far lesst han 99%. It is a fact that a new born turkish baby or a citizen is automaticaly recorded as muslim in turkish world unless one bothers to go and change it. Untill than it remains as "muslim". Alot are different religion and alot have stoped believing, its a natural thing but i guess for the other countries they see turkey as all muslim
romeofire87 3 years ago
yea i agree. well there is nothing "bad" about turkey being muslim. and hates to hear that arab's have anythin to do with Turkiye's business.. and call them traitors? like they never knew what they did in history. And rather than being liek "them", turkey should play smart, like what they are trying to do. Modernise the country, but still exist as an islamic country. thats no betray or anything. unless again, they are jealous =) just bcoz we treat women the same as men? or "try" to.. good enouf
beeeeeeerkXD 3 years ago
Turks invaded the MidEast and Europe. You belang in Asia. You're not a European people.
nerdy86 3 years ago
then it is too bad , turkey is not part of asia .. aw nerdy .
turkiye is the only country which is neither in Europe or asia.. its called anatolia. learn ur facts. we are not in either side. BUT, more involved in European activites, policies. well, im sorry things are like this but i didnt choose it to be this way, and fuck un, im happy in my country. i dont care.
beeeeeeerkXD 3 years ago 2
In all maps you belong in asia. The only place where turkey is european is your retarded brain. The name anatolia is a greek foundation. Turks call it anatolu. Anatolia is the greek original word. Stay happy in your country and don't care. We will be all happy that way.
louisssGR 2 years ago
Not anatolu,its anadolu. Anatolia is the word most english use, if i said the ones i use he wouldnt understand. i didnt say Turkiye was european or neither i said i wanted it to be European. I know in that place there are more fuckers like you, that don't know how to read and just blindly say what they want to say.. and ur first language for fucks sake! but human foolishness never ends so i don't mind being looked as different, rather than being smart and upsetting myself with fools like you..!
beeeeeeerkXD 2 years ago
don't argue with these kinds of people. We Turkish people don't like wasting time with those who are already corrupted by lies.
wizmurat 2 years ago 4
they say don't argue with stupid people. people can't make the difference.
beeeeeeerkXD 2 years ago
are you treating ottomans like this because, they didnt burn down Vienna after invasion, like napelion did? or they gave water to enemy soldiers before death, and prayed for the deads even they belonged to the other side..
well, we are used to it :) and we are 80 million, we will never give up and protect our rights. and if you have the guts make us stay in where we are :) *spit on ur face for being so stupid -.-"
beeeeeeerkXD 3 years ago
Fareed Zakaria doesn't know shit. First off why does he think of being western and being modern as the same thing? Secondly, Turkey is not an ancient country, it's a mideval one which began with the migration in the 15th century. Read a book dumb ass.
Sovnarkom 4 years ago
well u do realsie the past of Turkey was very eastern..i reckon turkey gonig western is betraying its very Islamic Past.
islam123098 4 years ago
To be far islam is still young for the Turkic peoples. We were shamanic for a very long time and many still are in north east asia. As Ataturk said, "Turks were a great race before islam."
The biggest empires were not islamic, also the Turkic mongols put an end to islamic arab power in the 13th century. Turks almost wiped islam of the face of earth.
remedy1984 3 years ago
yeah that is true but Mongolian is diffrent to 'Turk' even though turks came from them, im talking about the Ottoman empire.
islam123098 3 years ago
The term Turk existed long before Mongol. Just in case you didn't know, nearly all if not all Turkic empires were never named the Turkish empire. Hence Osmanli, Seljuk, Timurids, Ohguz, Huns, Berbers of india, Mongols, Khazars etc.
Some were shamanic, muslim and christan. Also the first jewish empire was Turkish, the Khazars.
The jews of israel mainly stem from a Turkic branch. Thus they have no historical claim to those lands what so ever.
remedy1984 3 years ago
Turks are an ancient race. 20 empires and counting. Before Turkey much of europe was Turkish. We came to Turkey late in the day. current day holland was the first country Turks settled in around 200AD. Migrations really began in the 11th century with the seljuks. However the Khazars were in poland/unkraine/Caucauses.
remedy1984 3 years ago 2
Err Genius...Holland is on the Atlantic coast. Holland was part of the Roman Empire around 200AD.
oliderid 3 years ago
Atilla the Hun was around 400. Sometimes my dates are off, but their are others who were there of Turkic descent. Anyway I was making the point that the Turks extend from east europe to east asia, some look white, some are dark and others look asian. Some are christian, most muslim, some shamanic, buddish and jewish.
remedy1984 3 years ago
Yet you are still wrong. Attila the hun never invaded Holland. He invaded Benelux through Belgium and moved down to Paris/Orleans. See the battle of chalons for more information. Anyway his expedition (+/- 1 year looting around) could hardly be considered as an annexion of the visited countries. Otherwise France has been vikings/Swedish too.
oliderid 3 years ago
"Turan" search for it on youtube. It gives a general overview of Turkic locations and lands conquered. Most of europe has been under Turkic rule in its history. This is my point, just like most of arabia has. The Turks are a seperate race who have conquered the chinise / Persians / Greeks / Arabs / Rus / Anglo-germanic peoples etc.
The video talks about the arab world, the arab world is different to the Turks, just like the rothschild owned eu is. This grouping mentality is not for us.
remedy1984 3 years ago
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No I am Eruopean and we do not want Turkey in EU. They barely touch Eruopean!Turkey has been killing Christians for centurieshave controlled their Churches and activities of christians in Turkey. It was a big mistake for Europe to let this big Muslim Invasion. Muslim want to take over Europe laws adn freedom! Soon Turkey will join into a new Meditaranean Community with its Muslim African brothers!Tha tis where they belong and not in EU
dmokri 4 years ago
dmokri if u never wanted turkey to be so much western well blame europe for that.
they have many connections with turkey thats why whe became so western too. turkey and germany are extremely close friends.ever saw a turkish or german commercial? the first phone number of a country is turkey or germany. and there are like 3 mil.germans in turkey and around 2 mil.turkish in germany. why wouldnt you like us? what terroristic act have whe ever done? whe go on our own legs. whe dont need the arabs.
hippetiehoppetie 3 years ago
gud talk. spelled "we" dont get me wrong. good talk.. good point. what terrorist act have the turkish people done ? and yet many europeans hate them. lucky i have a country like Turkiye, where we all stand for each other. So i cant bother less for people hating us. im blinded by the love of my country =)and it is great! (resepct every1)
beeeeeeerkXD 3 years ago