Virginia Biblical Evangelism Team Vol 5, Part 2 Charlotte, VA

[givingmantoo]

You dont like the current president because he is not a christian as you would define one, you dont like anyone who is not in your category of christian. As for your being a student LOL being brainwashed is not the same as being a learned student.

[ELItheMUSKETEER]

I don't like him because he doesn't properly follow the constitution, it has nothing to do with his religion. And yes, I'm a long term student of the constitution and hopeful Constitutional Lawyer. BTW, George Bush didn't follow the constitution either. Neither did Clinton, Reagen, Bush Sr., Ford, Carter, Nixon or any other in the last century really.

[givingmantoo]

Oh I see no one follows the constitution, you are the only one. Get over the bull shit, clearly every thing with you is measured according to your religious beliefs. You are one of those shits, who thinks the constitution is for your theocracy hopes.

[ELItheMUSKETEER]

Jefferson, Washington, Tyler and other did s very good job at following the constitution. A true theocracy is not possibly in the world at this time, the only RUE theocracy there ever was and ever will be was the ancient nation of Israel.

My distaste for the recent presidents has nothing to do with my religious beliefs, it has only to do with their failure to follow the regulations that they are supposed to follow. That's how you judge a president.

[givingmantoo]

Oh bull shit, its always about your religious beliefs, you are just arent honest enough to admit it

[givingmantoo]

Well, as I said ... this is boring now. You are parroting the same lame ass bull shit, which has been debunked time and time again ... your religion is bull shit and you are a moron, so fuck you good bye.

[ELItheMUSKETEER]

Good bye, have a nice night.

[givingmantoo]

God sent she bears to rip a part little kids for calling his prophet baldy and shiny head... yea, that makes Hitler seem like a pretty nice guy. By the way, Hitler was a catholic and was pissed at the jews for killing jesus, you morons dont even know one of your own.

[ELItheMUSKETEER]

Hitler was NOT a Christian by any stretch of the imagination. A. His writings blatantly deny this, B. He certainly didn't act like one and C. he killed many Christians.

True Christians like Dietrich Bonhoeffer either helped the Jews, left, or worked to stop Hitler. Dietrich Bonhoeffer did the third option. He helped in an assassination attempt and was eventually hanged. He knew that Hitler was breaking God's laws by murdering 6,000 Jews every day. Nazi Germany was the first state to teach

[ELItheMUSKETEER]

(Continued) Evolution in every school. It was the ONLY worldview that fit with their murdering.

[givingmantoo]

Oh he was not YOUR kind of christian, but then again you all say the OTHER guy is not really a christian. Never the less, the guy said he was, so I will take him at his word over your's. Because you are one of those shit heads how goes about telling all the other christians why they are not really christians. I guess the morons are wrong, the Jahova witnesses are wrong, the catholics are wrong, everyone is wrong but your shit church. Keep quote miningl, you are still a moron.

[ELItheMUSKETEER]

Hitler was objectively not a Christian since obviously to be a Christian you have to follow Christ and his teaching "Christ-ian".

Jesus said "No greater love hath any man than he who lays down his life for a friend". That goes against Hitler murdering 6 million Jews.

[ELItheMUSKETEER]

However, Christianity and Christianity alone teaches that the strong should give their lives for the weak.

And you, like the Nazis, will be judged by a higher law, whether or not you "accept it" or "believe it".

[givingmantoo]

So interesting how all theist are so unable to see the same bull shit they see in other theist none sense, in their own. When it boils down to it, what ever religion you are squawking about, it is all bull shit.

[givingmantoo]

Atheist dont accept claims with out evidence, your claim is such a claim. And the Qur'an says you are blasphemer ... you moron, it all BULL SHIT! man they make you guys even more stupid every day.

[ELItheMUSKETEER]

The Qu'ran has historical erorrs, and Islam was created as a religion based upon works, it cannot save you. The Qu'ran also advocates Jihad, why do I care what the Qu'ran says?

[ELItheMUSKETEER]

You are not making any sense givingmantoo, first you claim there are multiple Gods, then you advocate atheism, and now you're advocating the Qu'ran.

[ELItheMUSKETEER]

You're using filthy language. Where does the Bible advocate the stuff you mentioned? (in the posts had to delete because of their language). Give me references. Your arguments don't stand.

[ELItheMUSKETEER]

Atheists don't acknowledge the one true God. The Bible says "The FOOL says in his heart "there is no God" ". Creation proves there is a creator.

[ELItheMUSKETEER]

Oops... accidentally rmoved the comment I was replying too...

[givingmantoo]

You are blind brain washed man, and very dangerous, the kind of person we need to keep our kids away from.

[ELItheMUSKETEER]

Evidently you are too. You keep using straw man arguments, and cussing, but are not actually making any logical points. Learn how to debate in a respectful and proper manner.

[givingmantoo]

I have made no straw man argument, learn your fallacy before claiming it. Secondly, there is nothing logical or reasonable about god beliefs, it is all made up fucking bull shit. Your fairy tales and wicked religion, deserves no respect, and the proper manner in which to handle people like you is by insult and mockery, since that is all your religion has to offer.

[ELItheMUSKETEER]

Using the Qu'ran was a straw man. And cussing at me is an Ad Homenum attack. Learn how to debate.

All my religion has to offer? I guess you'd rather have grown up in the U.S.S.R. or the middle east or somewhere that doesn't have 1000 years of Christian Heritage behind it.

insult? Who's being insulting here? not me.

[givingmantoo]

Debate?

Oh shit you think I am interested in debating some idiot christian.

Ha ha

Yea, lets debate taking fucking snakes and invisible sky daddies.

Moron

[ELItheMUSKETEER]

Snakes? Sky Daddies? If you don't want to have a proper debate then don't bother polluting these pages with your foul language. It just makes you look silly.

If you want to debate though then I ask you refrain from using that kind of language, and provide me with a valid argument to argue.

[givingmantoo]

No, I said TALKING SNAKES your silly ass bible starts off with talking snakes and naked chicks, and of course no one sees your magical sky daddy. So that means it is INVISIBLE. These are fairy tales and not debatable, no more then debating about the exactly hight of doopy or sneezy from the snow white fairy tale. You have nothing to debate about, you just have a fairy tale, most of which you likely dont even know. Oh, and my cussing does not make you the winner, you moron. It is just a bonus.

[ELItheMUSKETEER]

So how do YOU believe we all came got here? Nothing CANNOT create something. That was proved way back in the 19th century.

But that is beside the point. Whether or not YOU believe God's Word you will still be judged according to it's standards.

[givingmantoo]

You just a parrot, puking up the bull shit your apologist have concocted in order to "refute" the attack on them, which is not even happening.

Oh back to the god's word hog wash, every fucking religion says they have divine revelation. So what, your bible is just another bull shit book.

And "standards" are you kidding me? The bible is full of VILE standards of behavior.

You are a brain washed parrot, simply puking out the bull shit that been spoon fed to you.

I am not worried about god.

[ELItheMUSKETEER]

What vile standard? The same vile standards that our western legal heritage is built upon? The same standards that inspired our forefathers to right "ALL MEN are ENDOWED by their CREATOR with certain INALIENABLE RIGHTS? I'll tell you what vile is. VILE is what the NAZIS were. Vile is what the teaching of Charles Darwin is. The teachings that say, you can murder for the good of the human race. Hitler followed Darwin's teaching to it's natural end, and that's why 6 MILLION JEWS died.

[givingmantoo]

Yep, just like a parrot ... puke the bull shit then drag in some shit I was not even even talking about. Your bible makes Hitler look like a nice guy, shit god himself killed more jews in the wilderness over every little bull shit thing. You are a brain washed idiot, people like you need to be locked up

[ELItheMUSKETEER]

How does it make Hitler look like a nice guy? Under your worldview many Christians HAVE been looked up and killed.

However, luckily for you and me this Country was founded on Christian principles, and nobody will be locked up for their beliefs.

[givingmantoo]

my world view? Another spoon fed bit of hogwash ... not christians, but people who are so brainwashed as you are, no matter what stupid ass theology they bought into, need to be locked up in mental hospitals. You assume too much, read too much into things and cant step out of your tiny christian box.

Oh and this country was founded as a secular nation, not a christians you retard. But then again, you are brainwashed with christian bull shit, so you are not really in the know.

[ELItheMUSKETEER]

I guess studying the different socio-religious beliefs of the different settlers, studying the constitution, studying the declaration of independence, studying the founding fathers and examining the the Christian heritage of the common law makes me brainwashed. What evidence could you possibly have for this claim? What about the Declaration of Independence? What about Washington's inauguration address? What about the REPEATED cries for the guidance of Divine Providence by our founding fathers?

[ELItheMUSKETEER]

I'm certainly glad you are not president, as bad as our current one is. You seem to not support any sort of freedom of religion, or dissenting belief.

That's why thousands of Huguenots left France and came HERE, That's why the Puritans came HERE under the oppressive reigns of Charles I and II and James I. That's why the Dutch Reformed, the Scotch Presbyterians, and others came by the thousands: To have freedom from monarchs who IGNORED A LAW HIGHER THAN THEMSELVES.

[givingmantoo]

Our current president is bad? Oh yea, he is not your kind of theist, that makes anyone a bad person. Certainly you are the only real christian .... blah blah blah. Not support freedom of religion ? Are you nuts ? you are free to shove your religion right up your ass ... you are not seeming to support our rights not have to listen to retards like you on the streets blathering on your idiocy. Man, you people are a waist of sperm.

[ELItheMUSKETEER]

I'm a long time student of the Constitution, our current president is bad because he doesn't uphold it. I wasn't talking about religion there.

[givingmantoo]

you are cherry picking and quote mining various documents. Not quite the same as genuine study. You simply look for bits and pieces you can twist together and say "see this supports what I already believe to be true" It is utterly amazing to me how idiotic christians are, it is a shock that you can even dress yourselves.

[ELItheMUSKETEER]

Even clothes are the outworking of a Christian worldview. :)

The Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians,the reject the deity of Christ. They're a cult.

[givingmantoo]

You say they are not christians, but they say you are not a true follower of jesus and are a cult member. In reality, you are all cultist and preaching bull shit. The Mormons also say guys like you are lacking in revelation and are not true christians, you would say they are wrong. And, all the while not one of your shits can produce a shred of real evidence to back your own idiotic ideas. You SAY blah blah blah, but the fact is so do they and all of you are full of shit.

[ELItheMUSKETEER]

The Bible said that no revelation would contradict God's word. The Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses both wrote their own extra revelation.

There is plenty of historical and scientific evidence for the Bible, but what really matters is YOU. You need to repent and turn from your sin, your blaspheming and your filthy speech.

[givingmantoo]

The Quaran says the bible is not gods word, and there is plenty of historical events mentioned in that book as well.

You could also say that since there is a New York and there is a man name Peter Parker, that the spiderman myth is also true.

As for scientific evidence in the bible, there is NOTHING ... the bible talks about too many things that science has shown is bull shit.

Your book is just one of the many other religious text, a load of bull shit.

[ELItheMUSKETEER]

But Secular scholars and Christian Scholars agree that the Qu'ran has factual errors.

No historical error has ever been found in the Bible.

That's not what I'mm doing. I'm asking YOU to state your claim.

Once again, that's not true. There are many scientists who have written extensively on the subject and I encourage you to read them (Dr. John Morris, Dr. Karl von Brahn, And many many others. If you want a longer list I have it :) )

[ELItheMUSKETEER]

What makes religion false? The U.S. Supreme court has ruled that secular humanism is a religion. Do you think it's false?

[givingmantoo]

Wow, you are a total ass hat ... religion is false you moron, because there is not such things as gods. However, religion is real because shits like you fall for the bull. You are boring now, no need to continue this idiocy. So, fuck off for life ...

[ELItheMUSKETEER]

There is no God? So matter made itself? That requires a lot of faith to believe.

God Bless.

[givingmantoo]

Bull shit ! You people are always saying shit like "scholars agree" well, give me the names of these scholars ? As for there being no historical error in the bible, are you out of your mind ? Then you ask me to read text by scientist about the historicity of the bible? If they are even scientist, if they are creationist the are not scientist.