God on Trial 7-9

[Anatoliyjax2]

In a sense, you also believe Hitler was god since you blame God in what Hitler in his madness did.

[Anatoliyjax2]

Nazi god? Wtf? - Hitler was the god of Nazi's

1) they killed Communists because they were Communt, they did not kill because some one was an Atheist. In reality, religious or not, Nazis were Atheists.

2) Being religious doe not mean believing in God. Believing suggests obedience God's command and since you believe Nazis were Christians, name me one commandment of Christ they followed killing Jews.

3) Stalin killed more people than Hitler including a lot of Christians BECAUSE he was an Atheist.

[Anatoliyjax2]

Problems:

1) the story never happened, it's not a documentary, "hiding place" did

2) these men are judging God right before being judged by Him, makes no sense

3) what else to expect of PBS? Sound theology?

If you like this junk, you corner yourself with no way out. This is not reason, it's anger and bitterness against God for the things godless Germans did as the result of the age of reason that denied God and the theory of evolution so admired by Nazis. This whole thing is so upside down.

[QuestionRenee]

@Anatoliyjax2 :Actually the Nazis mostly were believers in God.

[Anatoliyjax2]

@QuestionRenee Were they? And they had a special place in Dahau for pastors and priests, who did not believe in Nazi god. You must be totally bought into Atheist's propaganda. Here is how they believed in god:

Watch "Ninth day" it, unlike Public BS, shows what actually took place.

Generally, only sheep go to slaughter. If you generalize, you already are wrong. People like Dietrich Bonhoeffer did believe in God, Hitler and his machine believed in natural selection and survival of the fittest.

[QuestionRenee]

@Anatoliyjax2 : Nazi god? Wtf?

And yes, as religous was the MAJORITY of Germany at the time. There might have been a few "others" but since they would kill atheists, gays, as well as Jews I really doubt they were anything less.

Hitler was religous too btw.

[krautinator]

@Anatoliyjax2

Yeah those godless Lutheran/Roman Catholic Nazis, the same ones who had "Gott Mit Uns" inscribed on their soldier's belt buckles, led by the godless Hitler who stated numerous times that he was doing god's work.

Yep, they sure were godless.

Theology is all about taking a fictional story and bullshitting/making excuses for it anyway, so who cares?

[Anatoliyjax2]

@krautinator You do if you are here and post.

Jesus said: "Do not believe me unless I do what my Father does." (John 10:37) and "You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him." (John 8:44) Deeds speak louder than words. Do you mean to tell me that you believe what Hitler said? Germans did and paid the heavy price. Theology is about studying God, not His absence.

[krautinator]

@Anatoliyjax2

All I need to know about the bible, I learned from the Old Testament. Chock full of god-endorsed murder, rape, incest, torture, slavery, racism, and insane laws which could NEVER be justified under any context, EVER.

It's not ok now, it wasn't ok in that time, and will NEVER be justifiable. And remember Jesus said that not one letter of the law shall pass away, the old laws always apply!

Are you saying you agree with the Bible? I think Hitler definitely did. Book'o'Genocide.

[Anatoliyjax2]

@krautinator "All I need to know about the bible, I learned from the Old Testament."

Then go to a synagogue and debate it there if the New Testament does not make any difference to you. Yes, Jesus said that none of the law would pass away, but He said it to whom? You need to learn more than the Old Testament to see it in the Christian perspective before assuming whole a lot of lie about Christians.

[krautinator]

@Anatoliyjax2 Keep in mind Jesus also endorsed slavery. Not exactly your great and amazing flawless god in flesh, huh?

Or maybe, he was. God did endorse and encourage slavery, after all.

[Anatoliyjax2]

@krautinator He did neither endorse nor oppose it, His teaching would not start any social revolutions, but would make people of all social classes equal: read Galatians 3:28 and Philemon 1:16. If you know anything, you have to know that abolition of slavery and social equality were achieved by Christians, not Atheists, so get a clue.

[krautinator]

@Anatoliyjax2 Hey wait, who instituted slavery in the west in the first place?

So christians stopped something evil they started to begin with? Forgive me for not applauding.

[Anatoliyjax2]

Respond to this video... "Are you saying you agree with the Bible?"

Yes, I am in full agreement with the Bible taken in the right hermeneutic context, not as Atheists wrongfully paint it.

"I think Hitler definitely did."

Then think again. I do not want to repeat myself million times. Hitler believed in the natural selection and survival of the fittest. He despised Christians and was planning to get rid off Christianity eventually.

[krautinator]

@Anatoliyjax2 Really, that's what he believed? Prove it.

Hermeneutic context, huh? So riddle me this, in what "hermeneutic context" is rape, murder, incest, torture, slavery, and racism ok?

Tell me, what context makes that ok?

[Anatoliyjax2]

@krautinator Prove what? Your ignorance on this topic? Research Nazis and Social Darwinism. You seem to have no idea what biblical hermeneutics is and quite frankly you do not seem to care. It's a useless talk with a closed minded Atheist. Good luck.

[krautinator]

@Anatoliyjax2 Uh-huh, keep making excuses for your heinous book of fairy-tale bullshit.

Here's what I found: "My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter..." - Hitler to a crowd in Munich, before his power.

Good luck to you as well.

[Anatoliyjax2]

@krautinator Really? Before power he claimed that he wanted peace not war as well. Another case of taking things out of the content. I am not making any excuses, the Bible does not need them, you do need excuses for your rejection of God, pretty lame ones though.

[krautinator]

Also, if you don't want to repeat yourself, don't. You look like an immoral sycophant spouting this nonsense anyway.

[Anatoliyjax2]

@krautinator Atheists cannot live without well-poisoning adjectives, but what do they prove? NOTHING.

[krautinator]

@Anatoliyjax2 That which claimed without evidence.....can be dismissed without evidence. I don't need to excuse my rejection of something ridiculous, imaginary, and unprovable.

[Anatoliyjax2]

@krautinator Wrong, really wrong. Even absence of evidence is not the evidence of the opposite. The absence is a good case for doubt, but in order to state the opposite you have to able to prove it as well. Using your logic I can reject Atheism simply because the absence of God is unprovable either. You can see evidence, but you have to believe first, this is how it works, without faith.... you should not the rest.

[Anatoliyjax2]

@krautinator Following your statement the Earth was flat before it was proved to be different. You cannot reject anything just because you have not find the evidence of it, you can doubt though, but to reject, you have to be able to prove the opposite.

[krautinator]

@Anatoliyjax2

So, I need to only doubt the existence of fairies, elves, santa claus, big foot, loch ness monster, and invisible pink unicorns.

Because there's no evidence right???

The fact that the earth was round, is observable from any high mountain top.

Atheism is not the absence of god, atheism is the rejection of god claims as unprovable.

How can you disprove atheism? Present testable claims about god that everyone can verify as true.

Easy enough, right? Oh, wait...

[Anatoliyjax2]

@krautinator No, you do not have to believe in anything, you just need the truth that excludes everything else that contradicts it. I do not believe in Allah, for instance, but I do not waste my time on debating his existence, so it goes for pink unicorns. Santa, by the way was the real person (before he was relocated to the North Pole). There is the claim, called the Gospel, testable by everyone. Why don't you ask God for evidence yourself? It's easy, right? Oh wait...

[krautinator]

@Anatoliyjax2 "Why don't you ask God for evidence yourself?..." The irony is thick with this one.

I'll make it easy for you:

I can't ask god, no one can - because his existence has yet to be proven.

I debate the existence of all unproven positive god claims. It is not a waste of time because your group loves to use their silly book of horrendous fairy tales to make world-altering (usually harmful) decisions and interfere in other people's lives where they have no business.

[Anatoliyjax2]

@krautinator "I can't ask god, no one can", - every one can.

[krautinator]

@Anatoliyjax2 Prove it.

[Anatoliyjax2]

@krautinator

“The Ten Commandments have lost their validity. Conscience is a Jewish invention, it is a blemish like circumcision.”

- Rauschning, Hitler Speaks, p. 220

“The heaviest blow which ever struck humanity was Christianity; Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew.”

- Norman Cameron and R.H. Stevens, trans., (Oxford, 1953), Hitler's Table-Talk, p. 7

[Anatoliyjax2]

@krautinator “The law of selection justifies this incessant struggle, by allowing the survival of the fittest. Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure.”

- Norman Cameron and R.H. Stevens, trans., (Oxford, 1953), Hitler's Table-Talk, p. 51

You have to be mind blinded to believe in Atheist lies that Nazis were Christians.

[krautinator]

@Anatoliyjax2 Uh-huh.

NO TRUE SCOTSMAN!!! HERP DERP

[Anatoliyjax2]

@krautinator Whatever.

[JeniusRetard]

"4000 years of wearing silly hats and you're still on your way to die!"

I think I may have peed a little at that one.

[halolIlmao0]

Where can I purchase this?

[SatansMullet]

This would have been a GOOD movie, if the Holocaust had ACTUALLY HAPPENED! but since we ALL know how much of a LIE it is, it ruins the movie sadly..

[superhamzah85]

@SatansMullet

Where did the Jews go then?

[rriverstone1]

I love this soliloquy. I am agnostic, so discussions of God are problematic to me: I try to be polite and respectful and not see myself as superior for not practicing a faith.

This man's argument is so sound.

It begins at 6:35 (about two thirds of the way in).

The man's first words are, "I'm not Jewish."

[buckfushes]

God = Most Epic Fail Ever.

[VLAGTE]

God on Trial. Where can I purchase the full video. Please help Peter

[MiataSteve]

"PBS Shop" online

[VLAGTE]

Thanks a ton. I will ask my Son in England to sort it for me. Please carry on with the good work. Regards Peter

[TheLeano]

where can i buy this film>?