I think Chippers rejected the shirt because Zagalo is nothing in world football (expect for playing in a world cup winning team and coaching a world cup winning team). Chippers is a legend especially in Wollongong.
who really cares about zagallo? i mean no disrespect, but honestly.
at this tournament scott chipperfield had johan neeskens as a coach, and neeskens is definitely held in higher acclaim as player in history than zagallo.
@dplmussen1 You're totally out of your mind. The man won several world cups, as a player as well in one of the best teams of WC history. Who's Neeskens in football history? I mean no disrespect, but comparing Zagallo and this guys is like comparing Pele' and Kewell.
@camargohugo1 are you insane?neeskens mopes the floor with zigallo you fucking idiot. lets see zagallo played in brazil and in some arab country in his career, he has no achievment outside the brazilian national team which lets face it was because of the players around him. neeskens played in ajax and barcelona the 2 best teams in the world at the time fool, he won 3 champions leagues 2 supercups and countless others. dont compare shticunt zagallo to legend neeskens dickhead
@camargohugo1 yes that is exactly why i see pele as overrated also and he will never be as good as diego mardonna, zidane, cruyff etc. so no my argument is not invalid fool
I think Chipperfield did right. It doesn't matter if Zagallo is a legend or not, but it's just really impolite to send someone to give your tshirt away, as if it was a great honor for Chipperfield to get his shirt.
R.Carlos is just an arrogant arse and I like Chipperfield a bit more after he recused the shirt.
Yeah it's a replica shirt not Roberto Carlos' game shirt. Zagallo wanted to dupe Chipperfield into giving him his prized World Cup shirt for a replica he can find in any store.
@fantasticini I think what added to the frustration was Australia had really been given the business in that match. I think it was like 27-9 in the free count. And they really weren't that agressive, the Brasilians were diving for everything. But you have to take your chances. A fair result would've been 2-2, I think that's about where the game was at, but Brasil took their chances and Australia didn't. And that's why they're a great team and we're only a good one.
@TheBalcom Very well put , though as a referee I am staggered no one mentions Brazil's off side goal. The ball rebounds off the post to a player in an offside position who scores.. that is still offside under the laws.
He refused it because Roberto Carlos is a stupid bitch who falls asleep at freekicks and because that Brazil shirt is not even good enough to wipe your ass with it.
Fuck Brazil, Zagallo should have gone to the ref to swap shirts with him since he helped them win.
Brazil has won 5 world cups, the only team to have played in every world cup. scored the most goals and won the most matches. Australia has only played in 2 WC's
The Ref didn't score any goals Australia failed to score. don't be a sore loser
Fuck brazil, they are a bunch of beggers, we dont want your shit shirt. Yeah you won 5 world cups but we dont want your shirt.
Its not about being a sore loser, any person who was at that game will admit the referee was shit and gave everything to Brazil.
If Brazil is so good why ask for the help of referees? why fix the draw for every world cup so you get easy teams in the first round? brazilians are faggots, stop playing costa rica, scotland and the usual teams you get in every world cup.
Brazil football is far better the Australian. 5 WC's to 0, Sore loser. Brazil never has asked for help from refs they just score more goals. fix draws! LOL so how do they fix the draws? If you really know anything about the world cup, they always seed the best teams (it based on their ranking and past 3 WC's.) Australia is not seeded they will get hard teams.
Every World Cup draw is fixed and the team that always gets help is Brazil. Costa Rica has been in Brazil's group 2 out of the last 3 times they have made the World Cup. Anytime Scotland makes a World Cup they go to Brazil's group, must be a special FIFA rule 'always put scotland with brazil'. FIFA and Brazil are a fucking joke.
If FIFA wanted the draws to be fair, they should let the balls drop from a machine like lotto, none of this bullshit of players picking balls. I dont trust them.
ok its obvious you follow Argentina, that's why you hate Brazil. People who hate Brazil always make up some excuse because their team doesn't do well. so they blame their teams bad performance on fifa fixing the WC for Brazil. LOL I notice you didn't mention Brazil beating Argentina recently, How did fifa help Brazil there?
I grew to hate Brazil because they always get help from fifa and games like the one in Munich only made me hate them more. I was at that game and that referee favoured Brazil. Take off your blinkers and watch that game again. There is a reason why Harry Kewell abused the ref after the game. It was disgusting that the "5 time world champions" need help to beat Australia. And I just dont like your football, I think you play shit football, you play like Italy.
I didnt hate Brazil in the past, I actually loved watching the 82 team but since then your football has gone downhill. I think you play shit football when you consider the players you have. But I think Brazil is haunted by that 82 game against Italy and since then have chosen to play this rubbish counter attack football which seems more like Italian football. The jogo bonito hasnt been seen for over 20 years.
As for Argentina......the last time they played in a World Cup you know what happened and since then fifa and Brazil do anything possible to avoid Argentina, creating draws that will only see them meeting in a semi final or final. Brazil doesnt want to play Argentina in a World Cup, they only want to play teams that cant beat them. Brazil doesnt want to play Holland, Argentina, Italy, France......everyone else is easy for Brazil because they show too much respect.
@twotribes03 LOL yeah that was 19 years ago! the last time they played for a WCQ which is a WC match according to fifa Brazil won 3 x 1 in Argentina. LOL your argument is hilarious so in 2002 if Argentina had come first in their group Brazil would have met them in the 1/4's
mate Believe me or not I acturally like Argentina and wish them well next year. but not against Brazil!
What about the fact that Brazil has only ever met Germany in a World Cup once. That is so corrupt! two of the most successful nations only meeting once is an absolute joke. Draw fixing.
I have studied all the qualifying teams and I have selected the teams that Brazil would be happy with. Im guessing that the Brazilian FA has already made a request to FIFA for these teams. They would get one european team, one team from africa or concacaf and one team from asia or oceania or south america (because they cant meet teams from same region they would get an asian team or new zealand.
the best seeded teams always get easier teams, that's why their seeded. Argentina hasn't got passed the Q.finals since 1990, that's why their seeding is not that high. Fifa don't hide this fact. Brazil reached the q.finals in 06, final in 02 (and won) & final in 98.That's why their seeded so high. go to fifa wed site and see how the seedings are worked out.
Here we go again, there must be something wrong with your brain, I know all about seeding and how the draw works. 7 top teams are seeded plus the host, Brazil and Argentina are always seeded and both being from South America means they should get similar teams. But of course this never happens. A high ranking makes you a seeded head of the group team, it doesnt mean you get shit teams like Brazil gets every world cup.
The only thing going against Brazil in the draw is South Africa. As host nation they have to get some help so they will fight with Brazil to get these easy teams.
On top of this Im sure they have made a request to avoid teams like Holland, Portugal, Denmark, Serbia, Ivory Coast, Ghana, Nigeria, Australia and Mexico.
This is a long list of teams they need to avoid but knowing the special 'LUCK' Brazil seems to have at each world cup draw, I would be surprised if they get any of these teams.
you are an idiot you turely believe Brazil has some sort of agreement with fifa? it is your justification because your beloved Argentina hasn't won a world cup since 86? so you have to come up with some excuse why Brazil do so well. ha ha
You are an idiot if you are in denial about this, Brazil has had Scotland in 82,90 and 98. Leave poor Scotland alone! You had Costa Rica in 90 and 02, you didnt get them in 06 because the hosts Germany had to get some help. Its quite embarrassing that the 5 time world champions want to play weak teams like these. Its like me going to play against 10 year olds and telling people how good I am.
Dont worry, in one week we will see who is right. I have made my prediction.
@twotribes03 lol so you only pick years when it is convenient for you. what about Argentina in 82, 86, 94, 98 El Salvador, south Korea, Greece, Jamaica ...you forgot those WC's lol
Dont be an idiot, every group has an easy team. 82 Also had Hungary and Belgium when those teams had quality. 86 Italy and Bulgaria. 94 Bulgaria and Nigeria who both had great teams. The only time Argentina had an easy group was in 98 even though we also got Croatia who came 3rd in 98.
You have been avoiding good teams for 40 years. Your country are a bunch of cats, you see something scary and run under Fifa's dress.
You make a prediction if you think you know so much. My prediction is that Brazil is scared to play certain teams and get help from fifa. This doesnt mean they cant beat some of these teams, it just means they want easy games at the start of the world cup so fifa helps them avoid them.
In 2010 I think they want to avoid.....Portugal, Holland, Denmark, Serbia, Ivory Coast, Ghana, Nigeria, Australia and Mexico.
@twotribes03 It not what I know it just a fact, go to fifa and read for yourself. like I said people like you are just making excuses for the failability of their own teams.
I dont make excuses for my team, if we dont win its our fault, I dont blame fifa for games we should have won. I blame fifa a for favouring Brazil in every world cup draw since 1974. You never play anyone of importance in the group stages, when this happens 9 world cups in a row it becomes obvious to everyone what is going on. You can only deny it when you are blind.
Hungary - another great team LOL they were only good in the 50's
BTW Argentina's junta made sure Peru's Argentinean keeper was paid to conceded those 6 goals, they couldn't have Brazil in the final in their own backyard.
France had Platini and a team that 4 years later would be one of the best of the 82 World Cup.
The Peru thing is an old story. Brazil beat Peru 3-0 when Brazil had a shit team. I dont see why Argentina couldnt do the same to a team who was not playing for anything and was out of the world cup.
Plus home teams always get help. Brazil asks for help at every world cup, they think they are the home team in all countries. Fucking referee protected pussies!
France were not consider strong in 78 Platini was an up and coming young star
you can't say how good a team will be in the future when at the time they were not considered strong that's a baseless argument.
oh the Peru thing was an old story, because you said right, the junta had nothing to do with it just like they had nothing to do with the missing or tortured.
If the junta was that strong we should have killed everyone in the brazil team, that way we would have qualified and would have got enjoyment out of getting rid of a few carnaval bitches
Your kidding right? Are you that stupid or your intelligence level is that low? The junta weren't as dumb as you to try and pull something like that, gee man you are fucked up.
Look there is no use arguing with you. Trying to reason with someone with your intellect is like hit your head against a brick wall. Just keep on believing want you want if it makes you happy.
You talk about the junta and all this shit you know nothing about. You have probably never been to Argentina and werent even alive in 1978 but you make up all these stories.
Peru had nothing to play for in 1978, they were a shit side as proven by the fact that Brazil beat them 3-0. So there is no surprise they lost to Argentina. Why would they want to beat Argentina? To help brazil? Peru is not Fifa, you dont have the same relationship with Peru hat you have with Fifa.
Spain - Not a bad team, probably shocked Brazil since in 82 Spain was terrible. So what do you do to get a result? Get help from the referee to take away a fair goal by Spain. More corruption!
Costa Rica A new Brazil favourite for future beatings
Sweden - crap team that even Costa Rica could handle
Scotland - Old friend from 74,82, 90 and wait we still have 98. The rule must be that Scotland must be in Brazil's group every 8 years. Scotland ruined the script by not making it to 2006. Brazil must have been disappointed.
Cameroon had great team, I saw them live at that world cup, with a bit of luck they would have made the semi final in 1990.
Romania had Hagi and were a good team for a decade, therefore they were never drawn in a group with Brazil in 3 world cups in 90,94,98. Another team you avoided.
USSR were Euro 88 finalists. When did Brazil draw a Euro finalist in their group?
I already admitted this was the only good draw Argentina ever got. This only proves that the 2006 draw for Brazil was also a Joke, you got almost the same teams but a weaker Croatia.
England in a World Cup is hard to beat, never easy. In the last 40 years Brazil has never drawn a world champion in their group. Argentina has drawn one in 74,78,86 and 02. Only a blind man could ignore these facts.
Sweden are shit, it just wasnt meant to be in 2002. My problem is getting England in the same group.
Nigeria are hopeless but you have been avoiding them for 14 years.
A full england team in 2010 will beat brazil. The last game they played will give brazil a false confidence and in a winter world cup england will have the advantage.
So was I, but you forget to mention how over rated Argentina was. So what makes you think I don't go to games? oh yeah that's right you know everything and you said so. it was you who uncovered the truth about Fifa and Brazil doing deals mate you should be the next fifa president "the man who uncovered the corruption"
That 88 team came to Australia thinking it was a holiday trip and got done because they were second rate. Thats why many of them never played again for the national team. By the time we knocked out Brazil in 90, how many of the 88 players were in that team?
Ruggeri wasn't the only play left in that team caniggia, Monzon, Sergio Batista and Sensini were there too. Best day of you life! ha I think that was Argentina worst ever team playing the most defensive ugliest football, how did you feel in the final, were you crying like Maradona?
In 1990 only Ruggeri and Monzon played against Brazil. Batista didnt play and Sensini didnt play.
Caniggia never came to Australia, this proves you get all your info from books. You should start watching some real games. Caniggia might have been in the official program but it doesnt mean he was in Australia.
You should watch the 1990 game again, Maradona was unstoppable and he was on one leg.
You are trying to divert attention from the fact that Brazil is scared of certain teams and gets help from Fifa in world cup draws. Stick to the issue.
Also if Brazil is such a shit team why was it the best day of your life when your team beat Brazil? otherwise you would have treated like an ordinary game going by your assessment of Brazil. It's because you know deep down inside Brazil is the team everybody judges how good they are when they play against them. LOL
Its the best day of my life because it was the day you pussies couldnt run away from us anymore and we showed the world who was the real boss and who had the greatest player on earth.
20 years since then, you keep on running away from us in world cups. Im not scared of Argentina losing to Brazil, Im just sick you you pussies running away from us to play Scotland, Costa Rica and New Zealand.
If you beat us in a World Cup you can say you are the best. But you are not the best for beating Turkey!
So? In qualifiers you are forced to play Argentina, we are not scared of losing. In World Cups where you are not forced to play us, you run. Stop running!
So! ha your a real clown. so in World cup we run how does that work. let me guess Brazil pays fifa to avoid Argentina. you are truly a complete dumb fuck.
In the corrupt World Cup Fifa protects Brazil from any tough teams in the first round and then makes sure Brazil has no chance of meeting Argentina unless its a semi or a final. Not hard to understand dumbfuck.
Here we go again with things that are not relevant to my argument. Yes you beat England after you had a good rest after playing Turkey, China and Costa Rica. And after Belgium outplayed you in the previous round and you paid the referee to disallow the Wilmots goal.
Yes 5 World Cups, 2 with the help of Fifa.
The argument is the reason for Brazil needing help in world cup draws when they consider themselves so superior. If you think you are the best dont be scared of so many teams.
@michael9678727 Just because this draw was a real draw it doesnt mean you havent been getting a free ride for 40 years. Bring back Havelange so you get better draws.
The party is over now, you will play some real teams. Arent you happy?
Ha ha you are an idiot! you have made a real fool of your self by making this claims about Brazil getting help for fifa now you don't know what to say LOL you loser!
Everything i said makes perfect sense. Dont get all angry now because you are scared of some real teams and because you would cup will be over early. Better luck in 2014 pussies.
Beat Holland twice in 94 and 98, something Argentina couldn't do LOL
We beat Italy twice this year, and we are definitely not scared of Spain. By saying we'll get Spain then Italy that means your saying we will beat Spain! lol you loser!
Yes you got a hard group, doesnt mean you cant get to second round, just means that you will be fucked by the time the second round comes. You wont be able to rest players for any game.
Fifa didnt help Brazil because there is no point helping a team that will not win the world cup. Even if Brazil could win the world cup, they are not allowed, they will be given every opportunity to win 2014 but they cant win 2010.
You are very naive, you think the world is all pretty roses and birds signing. The world is corrupt, there are always outside interests. There is no reason for Brazil to win this world cup, its not good for business.
The brazilian economy doesnt need stimulation plus they are getting the next world cup. What is the point of Brazil winning? Its not like they are a popular team and anyone can make money from their success.
I was in germany and shops were full of brazil jerseys, you couldnt give them away. I have 10 years experience in selling jerseys and Brazil has never helped me make money. Brazilians or supporters of Brazil are cheap bastards.
LOL is that your reason? you have proved to me that you are a complete fuckwit who's has a very low level of intelligence.
So you were in German shops, for how long? were you standing there all day watch who buys what, than I suppose you asked the shop manager what shirts they were selling? LOL see how stupid you sound? you come up with these stupid arguments that make no logical sense. keep dreaming! lol you are a good laugh
one last thing (i'm getting bored of you) Your whole argument was based on how fifa were giving Brazil easy draws etc. now that you have fallen flat on your face you are now saying it's because they don't sell enough shirts (lol) after this draw. do you see how stupid it all sounds? I can now say Argentina are in bed with Fifa because they now got Greece and Nigeria for the second time (94) it's a conspiracy I tell you!!
I was bored with you blindness already. Thats why i didnt reply. One normal draw doesnt rub out 40 years of dodgy draws.
Im quite happy now, this draw gives Argentina a chance to win the world cup and gives Brazil no chance.
After the draw you level of anger and insults has risen, you should be happy that I was wrong. Instead you have the shits because your pussy team has to play some hard teams.
LOL sorry man I could help my self reading your garage again! the one about pretty roses and birds was one of the real funny ones. Not good for business . hey last time I checked my roses were looking pretty and the birds were singing! LOL sorry man but you are a good laugh
@michael9678727 All the balls must have heated up in hot south africa.
You havent told me if you are happy with your group?
You do realize your world cup is over before it has even started right? You go the world possible draw, not just because of your group but who you get if you make the second round.
ok the all the balls were heated up, that's why they "stuffed up" brazil's group!
I don't care what team we have, Brazil is not afraid of no team, if they were we would have 5 world cups. Unlike Argentina, like in the last WC we scared of Germany, so they tried to kill off the game after scoring by playing defensively, then cried and had to fight after the game!
You talk about defensive football? You could score a goal in the worst final in history in 1994, you couldnt score a goal in 1998 final.
Brazil are fucking cats who sit back and counter attack. You are the biggest cats in world football. The old brazilian football died back in the 80s. All you play now is this counter attack shit.
Watch Barcelona to remind yourself how real football is played. You play like Italy.
Brazil has scored the most goals in WC history, won the most games and are 5 times World Champions. At least in 94 we tried to win the game unlike Argentina in 90 who were tring to win the game by penalties! how many goals did Argentina score to get to the final? 5 goals! LOL you get up then get shot down loser!
Australia - You fucking pussies thought you had an easy game! You fucking had that dirty german fuck on your side. You need help to beat Australia, you are a JOKE!
Neill is a shit defender, he helps Grosso get a penalty. What people dont like about that penalty is that if Grosso had been an australian playing against Italy, the penalty would not have been given.
The croatia game, Australia dominated the whole game. Kalac gave away two goals. Yes Kewell was offside........and the referee gave a cratian 3 yellow cards and in the last minute Australia scored and that fucking english loser ended the game. Australia won 3-2.
Once again, you only read scores from magazines and watch highlights. My comment about it being 3-2 was that at the end of the game Australia scored again and the moron referee did not award the goal, he decided to end the game as the ball was about to go in the net. So with a normal referee Australia would have won 3-2. But you need to have actually watched the whole game to know this happened.
Once again I was at the game and you were watching highlights.
ha, ha you are an idiot I know what happened but your missing the point Harry's goal was offside Australia were lucky to get through. Also when the final whistle blows it's over. same thing happened to Brazil in 78
You complain about the goal being offside but then also want to ignore that Australia scored in the last minute. You cant have it both ways, you cant be against the referee for the offside and then be on his side for the non goal at the end.
Yes in 78 another idiot ref decided he wanted to be the star of the show. A fucking moron with no brains who wanted to be a star.
The Brazil game was disgusting, you should be embarrassed about that game, the referee helped Brazil all game. The Brazilian defenders could not handle Viduka all game, he was fouled every time he got the ball, he would still hold on to the ball and the referee would give Brazil free kicks. It was shameful!!
I was at that game, you were in Australia watching it on tv with your brazil blinkers.
ha, ha Brazil playing below par still beats an Australian side playing their best. Viduka! how many goals did he score? I can't even remember the last time he scored! sore losers alway blame something like the ref for their teams inability to score a goal
Its not all about winning and losing, you have to see beyond those things. Of course Brazil can beat Australia but why do you need help from the referee? why do you need help from fifa with draws? Its just pathetic.
The draws are fixed by having hot and cold balls, when a player selects a ball he is told to pick certain balls for certain teams. Its not hard to fix such things when you are as corrupt as fifa. Then you just get some corrupt players to do what they are told, such as fifa's puppet Pele and you fix the whole thing.
You never question this because you are a brazilian wanker who never has to worry about getting hard teams in your group because fifa always looks after you.
@twotribes03 Wow sherlock you are bright. If you pay attention to the draw the they have seeded teams and unseeded team, if you look at the last WC do you honestly think Brazil had the easiest draw?
I have watched more world cups and more games than you by a mile, I watch everything, you think the only team that exists is Brazil. Of course I know how seeding works but every group you get looks hand picked. Croatia wasnt strong, Japan cant ever beat Brazil and you thought Australia would be easy but got it wrong. The 2002 draw was a joke Costa Rica, China and Turkey hahaha
Now that I have opened your eyes to fixed draws watch the next draw and see how corrupt it is.
"Roberto Carlos???? Never heard of him"
Roarlover34 1 month ago
AYEE CHIPPERS FUCKING LEGEND !
franklinyahooanswers 3 months ago
@mallic42 My bad, I was talking about the player that refused the shirt, not Neeskens. Just copied/pasted the name and didn't pay attention.
camargohugo1 5 months ago
I love the look on the old guys face after Scotty told him to shove it.
TheBalcom 9 months ago
Chipperfield and Carlos are both dickheads. I just feel bad for the old guy
juliandjung 10 months ago
I think Chippers rejected the shirt because Zagalo is nothing in world football (expect for playing in a world cup winning team and coaching a world cup winning team). Chippers is a legend especially in Wollongong.
paparia1969 1 year ago
who really cares about zagallo? i mean no disrespect, but honestly.
at this tournament scott chipperfield had johan neeskens as a coach, and neeskens is definitely held in higher acclaim as player in history than zagallo.
dplmussen1 1 year ago
@dplmussen1
zagallo may have won more, but neeskens was a greater player for sure.
dplmussen1 1 year ago
@dplmussen1 Neeskens was an exceptional player.
TheBalcom 9 months ago
@dplmussen1 You're totally out of your mind. The man won several world cups, as a player as well in one of the best teams of WC history. Who's Neeskens in football history? I mean no disrespect, but comparing Zagallo and this guys is like comparing Pele' and Kewell.
camargohugo1 5 months ago
@camargohugo1 are you insane?neeskens mopes the floor with zigallo you fucking idiot. lets see zagallo played in brazil and in some arab country in his career, he has no achievment outside the brazilian national team which lets face it was because of the players around him. neeskens played in ajax and barcelona the 2 best teams in the world at the time fool, he won 3 champions leagues 2 supercups and countless others. dont compare shticunt zagallo to legend neeskens dickhead
CiMBoMTurkiye93 4 months ago
@CiMBoMTurkiye93 Well, the words you use show how immature you are. Oh, Pele' played just in Santos most of his career. This argument is invalid.
camargohugo1 4 months ago
@camargohugo1 yes that is exactly why i see pele as overrated also and he will never be as good as diego mardonna, zidane, cruyff etc. so no my argument is not invalid fool
CiMBoMTurkiye93 4 months ago
I think Chipperfield did the right thing but you gotta feel sorry for the old man.
200dogz 1 year ago
fucking asshole australian!!!
TheFenomeno1102 1 year ago
@TheFenomeno1102 it was rude of roberto carlos not to give it to him in person
anzacpride1 1 year ago
I think Chipperfield did right. It doesn't matter if Zagallo is a legend or not, but it's just really impolite to send someone to give your tshirt away, as if it was a great honor for Chipperfield to get his shirt.
R.Carlos is just an arrogant arse and I like Chipperfield a bit more after he recused the shirt.
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hiimbensj 1 year ago
Good man Chipperfield! Leave our mark spot on!
Totalbollocks88 1 year ago
chipperfield's a legend.
he has played 9 seasons for the fc basel so far and has already won 10 titles there
NiggeliNG 1 year ago
Chippy has Roberto Carlos number anyday! ON YA CHIPPY!!!
djwatto10 1 year ago 10
if your gonna exchange shirts after a match, you should at least go to the person instead of sending an old man
warpfield98 1 year ago 27
@warpfield98 That old man happens to be Mario Zaglo, Roberto Carlos did not send him to swap shirt Zaglo did that on his accord.
michael9678727 5 months ago
@michael9678727 i really don't care who it is or whether he was sent or not, you either confront the player and swap shirts or leave it.
warpfield98 5 months ago
@warpfield98 And that's what roberto Carlos did,left it.
michael9678727 5 months ago
@michael9678727 yeah he left it for an old man to take care of. lazy lol
warpfield98 5 months ago
Legend Chipperfield. Australia were absolutely robbed in that match.
guyrocks 1 year ago
your thinking of the Italian match son. Brazil won fair and square on that day
warpfield98 1 year ago
@guyrocks I believe that when I see it!
Totalbollocks88 1 year ago
is that a rebel sports tag i can see on that jersey?
mateoitalia 1 year ago
Yeah it's a replica shirt not Roberto Carlos' game shirt. Zagallo wanted to dupe Chipperfield into giving him his prized World Cup shirt for a replica he can find in any store.
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That guy right now,
Damn... I should've taken that shirt. xD
Roberto Carlos!!
Legend!!!
47999673 1 year ago
This idiot certainly doesnt know Zagallo and what he means to football.
ClamperBR 2 years ago
@ClamperBR he has pride! zagallo is an old man that played a million years ago. Good on CHipperfield for refusing the jersey!
Golden93 1 year ago
@ClamperBR Mate he had just lost a World Cup tie and wasn't interested in swapping shirts. Nothing personal. Who are ya?
fantasticini 1 year ago
@fantasticini I think what added to the frustration was Australia had really been given the business in that match. I think it was like 27-9 in the free count. And they really weren't that agressive, the Brasilians were diving for everything. But you have to take your chances. A fair result would've been 2-2, I think that's about where the game was at, but Brasil took their chances and Australia didn't. And that's why they're a great team and we're only a good one.
TheBalcom 9 months ago
@TheBalcom Very well put , though as a referee I am staggered no one mentions Brazil's off side goal. The ball rebounds off the post to a player in an offside position who scores.. that is still offside under the laws.
88wardie 7 months ago
who is chipperfield?
WarhaWk183 2 years ago
respect with mario jorge zagallo, a legend
telofav 2 years ago
Zagallo is a beggar
twotribes03 2 years ago
Looks like we got the "group of death" where was the fifa help?
michael9678727 2 years ago
@michael9678727 Make sure you dont come second or you will be out in the first game of the second round. hahahaha
twotribes03 2 years ago
the reason why Scott refused the shirt is beacause it wasn't even Roberto's playing shirt, it had a tag still on the shirt.
michael9678727 2 years ago
He refused it because Roberto Carlos is a stupid bitch who falls asleep at freekicks and because that Brazil shirt is not even good enough to wipe your ass with it.
Fuck Brazil, Zagallo should have gone to the ref to swap shirts with him since he helped them win.
twotribes03 2 years ago
Brazil has won 5 world cups, the only team to have played in every world cup. scored the most goals and won the most matches. Australia has only played in 2 WC's
The Ref didn't score any goals Australia failed to score. don't be a sore loser
michael9678727 2 years ago
Fuck brazil, they are a bunch of beggers, we dont want your shit shirt. Yeah you won 5 world cups but we dont want your shirt.
Its not about being a sore loser, any person who was at that game will admit the referee was shit and gave everything to Brazil.
If Brazil is so good why ask for the help of referees? why fix the draw for every world cup so you get easy teams in the first round? brazilians are faggots, stop playing costa rica, scotland and the usual teams you get in every world cup.
twotribes03 2 years ago
Brazil football is far better the Australian. 5 WC's to 0, Sore loser. Brazil never has asked for help from refs they just score more goals. fix draws! LOL so how do they fix the draws? If you really know anything about the world cup, they always seed the best teams (it based on their ranking and past 3 WC's.) Australia is not seeded they will get hard teams.
michael9678727 2 years ago
Every World Cup draw is fixed and the team that always gets help is Brazil. Costa Rica has been in Brazil's group 2 out of the last 3 times they have made the World Cup. Anytime Scotland makes a World Cup they go to Brazil's group, must be a special FIFA rule 'always put scotland with brazil'. FIFA and Brazil are a fucking joke.
If FIFA wanted the draws to be fair, they should let the balls drop from a machine like lotto, none of this bullshit of players picking balls. I dont trust them.
twotribes03 2 years ago
ok its obvious you follow Argentina, that's why you hate Brazil. People who hate Brazil always make up some excuse because their team doesn't do well. so they blame their teams bad performance on fifa fixing the WC for Brazil. LOL I notice you didn't mention Brazil beating Argentina recently, How did fifa help Brazil there?
michael9678727 2 years ago
I grew to hate Brazil because they always get help from fifa and games like the one in Munich only made me hate them more. I was at that game and that referee favoured Brazil. Take off your blinkers and watch that game again. There is a reason why Harry Kewell abused the ref after the game. It was disgusting that the "5 time world champions" need help to beat Australia. And I just dont like your football, I think you play shit football, you play like Italy.
twotribes03 2 years ago
I didnt hate Brazil in the past, I actually loved watching the 82 team but since then your football has gone downhill. I think you play shit football when you consider the players you have. But I think Brazil is haunted by that 82 game against Italy and since then have chosen to play this rubbish counter attack football which seems more like Italian football. The jogo bonito hasnt been seen for over 20 years.
twotribes03 2 years ago
As for Argentina......the last time they played in a World Cup you know what happened and since then fifa and Brazil do anything possible to avoid Argentina, creating draws that will only see them meeting in a semi final or final. Brazil doesnt want to play Argentina in a World Cup, they only want to play teams that cant beat them. Brazil doesnt want to play Holland, Argentina, Italy, France......everyone else is easy for Brazil because they show too much respect.
twotribes03 2 years ago
@twotribes03 LOL yeah that was 19 years ago! the last time they played for a WCQ which is a WC match according to fifa Brazil won 3 x 1 in Argentina. LOL your argument is hilarious so in 2002 if Argentina had come first in their group Brazil would have met them in the 1/4's
mate Believe me or not I acturally like Argentina and wish them well next year. but not against Brazil!
michael9678727 2 years ago
What about the fact that Brazil has only ever met Germany in a World Cup once. That is so corrupt! two of the most successful nations only meeting once is an absolute joke. Draw fixing.
twotribes03 2 years ago
your argument has no basis. LOL keep dreaming
michael9678727 2 years ago
I have studied all the qualifying teams and I have selected the teams that Brazil would be happy with. Im guessing that the Brazilian FA has already made a request to FIFA for these teams. They would get one european team, one team from africa or concacaf and one team from asia or oceania or south america (because they cant meet teams from same region they would get an asian team or new zealand.
Greece (2nd choice Slovenia)
Honduras (2nd choice Algeria)
New Zealand (2nd choice N.Korea)
twotribes03 2 years ago
the best seeded teams always get easier teams, that's why their seeded. Argentina hasn't got passed the Q.finals since 1990, that's why their seeding is not that high. Fifa don't hide this fact. Brazil reached the q.finals in 06, final in 02 (and won) & final in 98.That's why their seeded so high. go to fifa wed site and see how the seedings are worked out.
michael9678727 2 years ago
Here we go again, there must be something wrong with your brain, I know all about seeding and how the draw works. 7 top teams are seeded plus the host, Brazil and Argentina are always seeded and both being from South America means they should get similar teams. But of course this never happens. A high ranking makes you a seeded head of the group team, it doesnt mean you get shit teams like Brazil gets every world cup.
twotribes03 2 years ago
The only thing going against Brazil in the draw is South Africa. As host nation they have to get some help so they will fight with Brazil to get these easy teams.
On top of this Im sure they have made a request to avoid teams like Holland, Portugal, Denmark, Serbia, Ivory Coast, Ghana, Nigeria, Australia and Mexico.
This is a long list of teams they need to avoid but knowing the special 'LUCK' Brazil seems to have at each world cup draw, I would be surprised if they get any of these teams.
twotribes03 2 years ago
you are an idiot you turely believe Brazil has some sort of agreement with fifa? it is your justification because your beloved Argentina hasn't won a world cup since 86? so you have to come up with some excuse why Brazil do so well. ha ha
michael9678727 2 years ago
You are an idiot if you are in denial about this, Brazil has had Scotland in 82,90 and 98. Leave poor Scotland alone! You had Costa Rica in 90 and 02, you didnt get them in 06 because the hosts Germany had to get some help. Its quite embarrassing that the 5 time world champions want to play weak teams like these. Its like me going to play against 10 year olds and telling people how good I am.
Dont worry, in one week we will see who is right. I have made my prediction.
twotribes03 2 years ago
@twotribes03 lol so you only pick years when it is convenient for you. what about Argentina in 82, 86, 94, 98 El Salvador, south Korea, Greece, Jamaica ...you forgot those WC's lol
michael9678727 2 years ago
Dont be an idiot, every group has an easy team. 82 Also had Hungary and Belgium when those teams had quality. 86 Italy and Bulgaria. 94 Bulgaria and Nigeria who both had great teams. The only time Argentina had an easy group was in 98 even though we also got Croatia who came 3rd in 98.
You have been avoiding good teams for 40 years. Your country are a bunch of cats, you see something scary and run under Fifa's dress.
twotribes03 2 years ago
You make a prediction if you think you know so much. My prediction is that Brazil is scared to play certain teams and get help from fifa. This doesnt mean they cant beat some of these teams, it just means they want easy games at the start of the world cup so fifa helps them avoid them.
In 2010 I think they want to avoid.....Portugal, Holland, Denmark, Serbia, Ivory Coast, Ghana, Nigeria, Australia and Mexico.
twotribes03 2 years ago
@twotribes03 It not what I know it just a fact, go to fifa and read for yourself. like I said people like you are just making excuses for the failability of their own teams.
michael9678727 2 years ago
I dont make excuses for my team, if we dont win its our fault, I dont blame fifa for games we should have won. I blame fifa a for favouring Brazil in every world cup draw since 1974. You never play anyone of importance in the group stages, when this happens 9 world cups in a row it becomes obvious to everyone what is going on. You can only deny it when you are blind.
twotribes03 2 years ago
1974 - A joke of a Group....
Zaire - Worst team at World Cup
Scotland - Poor old Scotland, Brazil's whipping boys
Yugoslavia - Alright team, you couldnt beat them because you suck.
twotribes03 2 years ago
1974 lets see
Poland - only one good player Lato
italy - hadn't won a world cup since 38 didn't even make it out of their group
Haiti best team ever
michael9678727 2 years ago
Poland came 3rd in 1974. Italy had made the 1970 Final.
You are clutching at straws. You dont know enough about football to win any argument with me.
Italy has been put with Argentina in 74, 78 and 86.
When did Brazil draw Italy in the past 40 years? NEVER, to scared of them.
twotribes03 2 years ago
1978 - Average Group
Austria - Always an easy team
Spain - Average team, nothing like Spain today, still you couldnt beat them
Sweden - Average, you couldnt beat them
twotribes03 2 years ago
1978
Italy good team that year
France hadn't qualified since 66
Hungary - another great team LOL they were only good in the 50's
BTW Argentina's junta made sure Peru's Argentinean keeper was paid to conceded those 6 goals, they couldn't have Brazil in the final in their own backyard.
michael9678727 2 years ago
France had Platini and a team that 4 years later would be one of the best of the 82 World Cup.
The Peru thing is an old story. Brazil beat Peru 3-0 when Brazil had a shit team. I dont see why Argentina couldnt do the same to a team who was not playing for anything and was out of the world cup.
Plus home teams always get help. Brazil asks for help at every world cup, they think they are the home team in all countries. Fucking referee protected pussies!
twotribes03 2 years ago
France were not consider strong in 78 Platini was an up and coming young star
you can't say how good a team will be in the future when at the time they were not considered strong that's a baseless argument.
oh the Peru thing was an old story, because you said right, the junta had nothing to do with it just like they had nothing to do with the missing or tortured.
michael9678727 2 years ago
If the junta was that strong we should have killed everyone in the brazil team, that way we would have qualified and would have got enjoyment out of getting rid of a few carnaval bitches
twotribes03 2 years ago
Your kidding right? Are you that stupid or your intelligence level is that low? The junta weren't as dumb as you to try and pull something like that, gee man you are fucked up.
Look there is no use arguing with you. Trying to reason with someone with your intellect is like hit your head against a brick wall. Just keep on believing want you want if it makes you happy.
michael9678727 2 years ago
You talk about the junta and all this shit you know nothing about. You have probably never been to Argentina and werent even alive in 1978 but you make up all these stories.
Peru had nothing to play for in 1978, they were a shit side as proven by the fact that Brazil beat them 3-0. So there is no surprise they lost to Argentina. Why would they want to beat Argentina? To help brazil? Peru is not Fifa, you dont have the same relationship with Peru hat you have with Fifa.
twotribes03 2 years ago
so what do you know about the junta?
again I forgot you know everything
michael9678727 2 years ago
1982 Another gift to Brazil who didnt need help with the team they had then...
New Zealand - Worst team in 82
Scotland - Brazil's favourite
USSR - A good team but they had not made a world cup since 1970
twotribes03 2 years ago
1982
Hungary Again! it must be fixed
Belgium's first ever world cup and the champions could even beat them
and the famous El Salvador!! conceding 13 goals making them the worst team of 82
michael9678727 2 years ago
The worst team in 82 was New Zealand, anytime you want to find the worst team, look in Brazil's group.
If Hungary is so easy why dont you play them? Get them in a fucking draw, you pussies!
Hungary knocked you out of the 54 world cup(4-2), beat you again in 66 (3-1) and 3-0 in a friendly in 86.
Just because they are no good now, doesnt mean you werent shit scared of them back then. They owned your ass for decades.
twotribes03 2 years ago
1986 More shit teams...
Algeria - Easy beats
Northern Ireland - Rubbish
Spain - Not a bad team, probably shocked Brazil since in 82 Spain was terrible. So what do you do to get a result? Get help from the referee to take away a fair goal by Spain. More corruption!
twotribes03 2 years ago
Italy again it must be fixed
The devastating Bulgaria
South Korea the power house asians
michael9678727 2 years ago
Yes Italy again. Two World Champions in the same group. When did Brazil get drawn against a former champion? Never, Fifa protected pussies!
twotribes03 2 years ago
That's because Brazil are seeded higher than Argentina you idiot.
michael9678727 2 years ago
86 again the hand of god, Argentina don't cheat it was God's fault
michael9678727 2 years ago
Im not interested in God. Religion is for fuckwits
twotribes03 2 years ago
tell that to Diego's hand
michael9678727 2 years ago
1990 More rubbish teams...
Costa Rica A new Brazil favourite for future beatings
Sweden - crap team that even Costa Rica could handle
Scotland - Old friend from 74,82, 90 and wait we still have 98. The rule must be that Scotland must be in Brazil's group every 8 years. Scotland ruined the script by not making it to 2006. Brazil must have been disappointed.
twotribes03 2 years ago
1990
Cameroon got smashed 4 nil against USSR sure they made the 1/4 but were they really expected to get out of their group?
Romania another great team
USSR were victims of the hand of God again!
michael9678727 2 years ago
Cameroon had great team, I saw them live at that world cup, with a bit of luck they would have made the semi final in 1990.
Romania had Hagi and were a good team for a decade, therefore they were never drawn in a group with Brazil in 3 world cups in 90,94,98. Another team you avoided.
USSR were Euro 88 finalists. When did Brazil draw a Euro finalist in their group?
twotribes03 2 years ago
1994 - Probably not a bad group
Cameroon - Rubbish
Russia - Worst russina team in years
Sweden - One of their best teams in history
twotribes03 2 years ago
1994
Nigeria the only serious challenger
Bulgaria - nothing was expected of them
Greece LOL
michael9678727 2 years ago
Nigeria - When is Brazil going to draw them? Never? Too scared?
Bulgaria had Stoichkov, nothing expected if you dont follow world football and have never heard of him.
Greece are a joke, thats why Brazil wants them for 2010
twotribes03 2 years ago
1998 More Corruption...
Morocco - easy african team
Norway - a weak european team and you couldnt beat them
Scotland - JOKE JOKE JOKE JOKE! CORRUPT, CORRUPT, CORRUPT!!!!
twotribes03 2 years ago
1998
Croatia the only good team
Jamaica ,yeah mun
Japan, very strong team!
michael9678727 2 years ago
I already admitted this was the only good draw Argentina ever got. This only proves that the 2006 draw for Brazil was also a Joke, you got almost the same teams but a weaker Croatia.
twotribes03 2 years ago
2002 Easiest Group in whole world cup
China - Rubbish team
Costa Rica - More Rubbish
Turkey - Expected to be rubbish but actually cause Brazil problems. Brazil also gets help from referee and diving bitch Rivaldo. Disgusting!
twotribes03 2 years ago
2002-
England always over rated gee even Australia can beat them
Sweden - their only a rubish team when they're in Brazil's group right?
Nigeria, hopeless
michael9678727 2 years ago
England in a World Cup is hard to beat, never easy. In the last 40 years Brazil has never drawn a world champion in their group. Argentina has drawn one in 74,78,86 and 02. Only a blind man could ignore these facts.
Sweden are shit, it just wasnt meant to be in 2002. My problem is getting England in the same group.
Nigeria are hopeless but you have been avoiding them for 14 years.
twotribes03 2 years ago
A full england team in 2010 will beat brazil. The last game they played will give brazil a false confidence and in a winter world cup england will have the advantage.
twotribes03 2 years ago
And yes Australia has beaten England. Just like Australia has beaten Brazil. Both overrated crap.
twotribes03 2 years ago
like Australia 4 Argentina 1 does that score line ring a bell?
michael9678727 2 years ago
Yes the score rings a bell because I was at that game. I go to all games, I dont just rad history books and recite scores like you.
twotribes03 2 years ago
So was I, but you forget to mention how over rated Argentina was. So what makes you think I don't go to games? oh yeah that's right you know everything and you said so. it was you who uncovered the truth about Fifa and Brazil doing deals mate you should be the next fifa president "the man who uncovered the corruption"
michael9678727 2 years ago
That 88 team came to Australia thinking it was a holiday trip and got done because they were second rate. Thats why many of them never played again for the national team. By the time we knocked out Brazil in 90, how many of the 88 players were in that team?
Im not corrupt so I cant be Fifa president.
twotribes03 2 years ago
I thought you said you don't make up excuses for your team?
also your too stupid
michael9678727 2 years ago
Where is the excuse? Australia won in 88 because they had a better team. By the time Argentina played Brazil in 1990 the only player left was Ruggeri.
By the way I was at the 1990 game too, best day of my life. I will never forget the utter silence in Torino when Caniggia scored.
twotribes03 2 years ago
you side the team was on holiday,
Ruggeri wasn't the only play left in that team caniggia, Monzon, Sergio Batista and Sensini were there too. Best day of you life! ha I think that was Argentina worst ever team playing the most defensive ugliest football, how did you feel in the final, were you crying like Maradona?
michael9678727 2 years ago
In 1990 only Ruggeri and Monzon played against Brazil. Batista didnt play and Sensini didnt play.
Caniggia never came to Australia, this proves you get all your info from books. You should start watching some real games. Caniggia might have been in the official program but it doesnt mean he was in Australia.
You should watch the 1990 game again, Maradona was unstoppable and he was on one leg.
twotribes03 2 years ago
you still didn't answer the question about giving excuses something about a holiday.
michael9678727 2 years ago
There are no excuses, that Argentina team was no good in 88. You must not be able to read properly.
twotribes03 2 years ago
you said they were on holidays not that they were a bad team, read your own post fuckwit.
michael9678727 2 years ago
You are trying to divert attention from the fact that Brazil is scared of certain teams and gets help from Fifa in world cup draws. Stick to the issue.
HOLLAND, PORTUGAL, DENMARK, SERBIA, AUSTRALIA, MEXICO, NIGERIA, IVORY COAST AND GHANA.
Are you going to let the draw be fair or are you going to run from these teams like you run from Argentina?
FUCKING PUSSIES
twotribes03 2 years ago
run from Argentina? last time I checked we smashed your Argentina.
All those team you mentioned that we have played in the WC we have beaten, so no problem
michael9678727 2 years ago
Also which team were you supporting?
I supported Brazil all the way I'm not ashamed to admit that.
michael9678727 2 years ago
Also if Brazil is such a shit team why was it the best day of your life when your team beat Brazil? otherwise you would have treated like an ordinary game going by your assessment of Brazil. It's because you know deep down inside Brazil is the team everybody judges how good they are when they play against them. LOL
michael9678727 2 years ago
Its the best day of my life because it was the day you pussies couldnt run away from us anymore and we showed the world who was the real boss and who had the greatest player on earth.
20 years since then, you keep on running away from us in world cups. Im not scared of Argentina losing to Brazil, Im just sick you you pussies running away from us to play Scotland, Costa Rica and New Zealand.
If you beat us in a World Cup you can say you are the best. But you are not the best for beating Turkey!
twotribes03 2 years ago
what was the score a few months ago?
Argentina x Brazil in Argentina?
michael9678727 2 years ago
3-1
So? In qualifiers you are forced to play Argentina, we are not scared of losing. In World Cups where you are not forced to play us, you run. Stop running!
twotribes03 2 years ago
So! ha your a real clown. so in World cup we run how does that work. let me guess Brazil pays fifa to avoid Argentina. you are truly a complete dumb fuck.
michael9678727 2 years ago
In the corrupt World Cup Fifa protects Brazil from any tough teams in the first round and then makes sure Brazil has no chance of meeting Argentina unless its a semi or a final. Not hard to understand dumbfuck.
twotribes03 2 years ago
fuckwit, Brazil has only meet Argentina in second round and in second group games prior to 86, never meet in a semi or final in WC
michael9678727 2 years ago
ok Mr Argentina,
here are the seeded teams, Brazil, Spain, Netherlands, Italy, Germany, Argentina, and England then
pot 2 Australia, Japan, Korea DPR, Korea Republic, Honduras, Mexico, USA, New Zealand
Pot 3Algeria, Cameroon, Côte dIvoire, Ghana, Nigeria+the SA teams
pot4Denmark, France, Greece, Portugal, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia and Switzerland
michael9678727 2 years ago
Thats nice of you.........I was waiting for those pots....... so who do you think you will get?
twotribes03 2 years ago
Brazil will get......Honduras, Algeria and Slovenia
sound about right?
twotribes03 2 years ago
So much about your theory fuckwit LOL
What's your explanation now?
michael9678727 2 years ago
What about beating England? how did Argentina do against England in 02? I forgot. I remember Brazil beating England.
How many World Cups has Argentina got?
michael9678727 2 years ago
Here we go again with things that are not relevant to my argument. Yes you beat England after you had a good rest after playing Turkey, China and Costa Rica. And after Belgium outplayed you in the previous round and you paid the referee to disallow the Wilmots goal.
Yes 5 World Cups, 2 with the help of Fifa.
The argument is the reason for Brazil needing help in world cup draws when they consider themselves so superior. If you think you are the best dont be scared of so many teams.
twotribes03 2 years ago
not scared of any teams, look at how seeding works fuckwit
michael9678727 2 years ago
That seeding story is getting old, there is no rule in the draw to say that Brazil can avoid...
HOLLAND, PORTUGAL, DENMARK, SERBIA, AUSTRALIA, MEXICO, NIGERIA, IVORY COAST AND GHANA.
None of the above teams are seeded teams, so there is no reason why Brazil can avoid them unless they get help from FIFA.
twotribes03 2 years ago
fuckwit why is Australia there?
look fifa told me Brazil will be in group C with NZ, Australia and Greece, man your right
and will only meet Argentina in the semi's if Argentina make that far.
michael9678727 2 years ago
Looks like Argentina paid fifa more money LOL Your arguments are now totally baseless!!
michael9678727 2 years ago
@michael9678727 I love it..............Brazil will finally play some real teams. Group of death #2.
I dont think Fifa want you to win this world cup.
twotribes03 2 years ago
your asrgument is completely flawed. read your own posts and see how much of a loser you are fuckwit. LOL
michael9678727 2 years ago
@michael9678727 Just because this draw was a real draw it doesnt mean you havent been getting a free ride for 40 years. Bring back Havelange so you get better draws.
The party is over now, you will play some real teams. Arent you happy?
twotribes03 2 years ago
Ha ha you are an idiot! you have made a real fool of your self by making this claims about Brazil getting help for fifa now you don't know what to say LOL you loser!
michael9678727 2 years ago
@michael9678727
Everything i said makes perfect sense. Dont get all angry now because you are scared of some real teams and because you would cup will be over early. Better luck in 2014 pussies.
twotribes03 2 years ago
lol nobody is angry just laughing at your silly arguments. Brazil is not afraid of no team, that's why we're 5 times world champions.
come tell me why "this time" Brazil got a "hard" draw? I'm love to know??
It must of been those balls, they weren't hot enough?? LOL
michael9678727 2 years ago
@michael9678727
Its not about being afraid, you will get one easy game and then all hard games. You world cup is over, playing too many quality teams wears you out.
If you come first you will get Holland in the 1/4 final. If you come second you get Spain and then Italy. Massacre !
twotribes03 2 years ago
Beat Holland twice in 94 and 98, something Argentina couldn't do LOL
We beat Italy twice this year, and we are definitely not scared of Spain. By saying we'll get Spain then Italy that means your saying we will beat Spain! lol you loser!
michael9678727 2 years ago
@michael9678727 You wont beat Spain, Im just giving you false hope so you can keep dreaming in your fictional world.
Dont get all worked up over nothing, you get one bad draw and you cant control your anger.
twotribes03 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
lol I laughing at your stupidity!
michael9678727 2 years ago
@michael9678727
Yes you got a hard group, doesnt mean you cant get to second round, just means that you will be fucked by the time the second round comes. You wont be able to rest players for any game.
First hard group you got in 40 years.
twotribes03 2 years ago
You still havn't said why Fifa didn't help Brazil! LOL you fuckwit
michael9678727 2 years ago
@michael9678727
Fifa didnt help Brazil because there is no point helping a team that will not win the world cup. Even if Brazil could win the world cup, they are not allowed, they will be given every opportunity to win 2014 but they cant win 2010.
You are very naive, you think the world is all pretty roses and birds signing. The world is corrupt, there are always outside interests. There is no reason for Brazil to win this world cup, its not good for business.
twotribes03 2 years ago
LOL are your really that stupid? no it's not good for business you are a crack up lol
michael9678727 2 years ago
@michael9678727
The brazilian economy doesnt need stimulation plus they are getting the next world cup. What is the point of Brazil winning? Its not like they are a popular team and anyone can make money from their success.
I was in germany and shops were full of brazil jerseys, you couldnt give them away. I have 10 years experience in selling jerseys and Brazil has never helped me make money. Brazilians or supporters of Brazil are cheap bastards.
twotribes03 2 years ago
LOL is that your reason? you have proved to me that you are a complete fuckwit who's has a very low level of intelligence.
So you were in German shops, for how long? were you standing there all day watch who buys what, than I suppose you asked the shop manager what shirts they were selling? LOL see how stupid you sound? you come up with these stupid arguments that make no logical sense. keep dreaming! lol you are a good laugh
michael9678727 2 years ago
and don't explain yourself, you just keep making a fool of yourself.
michael9678727 2 years ago
one last thing (i'm getting bored of you) Your whole argument was based on how fifa were giving Brazil easy draws etc. now that you have fallen flat on your face you are now saying it's because they don't sell enough shirts (lol) after this draw. do you see how stupid it all sounds? I can now say Argentina are in bed with Fifa because they now got Greece and Nigeria for the second time (94) it's a conspiracy I tell you!!
michael9678727 2 years ago
@michael9678727
I was bored with you blindness already. Thats why i didnt reply. One normal draw doesnt rub out 40 years of dodgy draws.
Im quite happy now, this draw gives Argentina a chance to win the world cup and gives Brazil no chance.
After the draw you level of anger and insults has risen, you should be happy that I was wrong. Instead you have the shits because your pussy team has to play some hard teams.
twotribes03 2 years ago
LOL sorry man I could help my self reading your garage again! the one about pretty roses and birds was one of the real funny ones. Not good for business . hey last time I checked my roses were looking pretty and the birds were singing! LOL sorry man but you are a good laugh
michael9678727 2 years ago
maybe the balls weren't hot enough LOL
michael9678727 2 years ago
@michael9678727 All the balls must have heated up in hot south africa.
You havent told me if you are happy with your group?
You do realize your world cup is over before it has even started right? You go the world possible draw, not just because of your group but who you get if you make the second round.
Its all over, get ready for 2014
twotribes03 2 years ago
ok the all the balls were heated up, that's why they "stuffed up" brazil's group!
I don't care what team we have, Brazil is not afraid of no team, if they were we would have 5 world cups. Unlike Argentina, like in the last WC we scared of Germany, so they tried to kill off the game after scoring by playing defensively, then cried and had to fight after the game!
michael9678727 2 years ago
@michael9678727
You talk about defensive football? You could score a goal in the worst final in history in 1994, you couldnt score a goal in 1998 final.
Brazil are fucking cats who sit back and counter attack. You are the biggest cats in world football. The old brazilian football died back in the 80s. All you play now is this counter attack shit.
Watch Barcelona to remind yourself how real football is played. You play like Italy.
twotribes03 2 years ago
Brazil has scored the most goals in WC history, won the most games and are 5 times World Champions. At least in 94 we tried to win the game unlike Argentina in 90 who were tring to win the game by penalties! how many goals did Argentina score to get to the final? 5 goals! LOL you get up then get shot down loser!
michael9678727 2 years ago
@michael9678727 You keep talking about 1990, I know it still hurts, but its in the past now.
twotribes03 2 years ago
1990 it doesn't hurt at all you must of been proud of your 5 goal team!
michael9678727 2 years ago
@michael9678727
Oh well thats fine, I dont care if it hurts or not. I love the 1990 World Cup, it was a wonderful world cup. But you had to be there to understand.
You keep watching the games on tv
twotribes03 2 years ago
Wonderful world cup? I'm refering about your 5 goal Argentina, were they a defensive team or attacking?
michael9678727 2 years ago
2006 More easy beats
Japan - A team that will never beat Brazil
Croatia - A team on decline
Australia - You fucking pussies thought you had an easy game! You fucking had that dirty german fuck on your side. You need help to beat Australia, you are a JOKE!
twotribes03 2 years ago
2006
Australia 0 Brazil 2 that was the final score how did the ref help Brazil score?
Aust had not one CLEAR CUT chance in that game.
Australian were luckly to get out of the group, if the ref had seen Harry was offside against Croatia Australia was out.
Then they lost to Italy that's to Neal's clumsiness grabing Grosso's foot.
just search for this -Lucas Neill vs Fabio Grosso - Was There Contact?
michael9678727 2 years ago
Neill is a shit defender, he helps Grosso get a penalty. What people dont like about that penalty is that if Grosso had been an australian playing against Italy, the penalty would not have been given.
The croatia game, Australia dominated the whole game. Kalac gave away two goals. Yes Kewell was offside........and the referee gave a cratian 3 yellow cards and in the last minute Australia scored and that fucking english loser ended the game. Australia won 3-2.
twotribes03 2 years ago
for some who says they know all about football can't even get the score right. it was 2x2 not 3x2.
michael9678727 2 years ago
Once again, you only read scores from magazines and watch highlights. My comment about it being 3-2 was that at the end of the game Australia scored again and the moron referee did not award the goal, he decided to end the game as the ball was about to go in the net. So with a normal referee Australia would have won 3-2. But you need to have actually watched the whole game to know this happened.
Once again I was at the game and you were watching highlights.
twotribes03 2 years ago
ha, ha you are an idiot I know what happened but your missing the point Harry's goal was offside Australia were lucky to get through. Also when the final whistle blows it's over. same thing happened to Brazil in 78
michael9678727 2 years ago
You complain about the goal being offside but then also want to ignore that Australia scored in the last minute. You cant have it both ways, you cant be against the referee for the offside and then be on his side for the non goal at the end.
Yes in 78 another idiot ref decided he wanted to be the star of the show. A fucking moron with no brains who wanted to be a star.
twotribes03 2 years ago
The Brazil game was disgusting, you should be embarrassed about that game, the referee helped Brazil all game. The Brazilian defenders could not handle Viduka all game, he was fouled every time he got the ball, he would still hold on to the ball and the referee would give Brazil free kicks. It was shameful!!
I was at that game, you were in Australia watching it on tv with your brazil blinkers.
twotribes03 2 years ago
ha, ha Brazil playing below par still beats an Australian side playing their best. Viduka! how many goals did he score? I can't even remember the last time he scored! sore losers alway blame something like the ref for their teams inability to score a goal
michael9678727 2 years ago
Its not all about winning and losing, you have to see beyond those things. Of course Brazil can beat Australia but why do you need help from the referee? why do you need help from fifa with draws? Its just pathetic.
twotribes03 2 years ago
The draws are fixed by having hot and cold balls, when a player selects a ball he is told to pick certain balls for certain teams. Its not hard to fix such things when you are as corrupt as fifa. Then you just get some corrupt players to do what they are told, such as fifa's puppet Pele and you fix the whole thing.
You never question this because you are a brazilian wanker who never has to worry about getting hard teams in your group because fifa always looks after you.
twotribes03 2 years ago
@twotribes03 Wow sherlock you are bright. If you pay attention to the draw the they have seeded teams and unseeded team, if you look at the last WC do you honestly think Brazil had the easiest draw?
michael9678727 2 years ago
I have watched more world cups and more games than you by a mile, I watch everything, you think the only team that exists is Brazil. Of course I know how seeding works but every group you get looks hand picked. Croatia wasnt strong, Japan cant ever beat Brazil and you thought Australia would be easy but got it wrong. The 2002 draw was a joke Costa Rica, China and Turkey hahaha
Now that I have opened your eyes to fixed draws watch the next draw and see how corrupt it is.
twotribes03 2 years ago
@twotribes03 LOL so how do you know you have watched more games then me? I know because you