Vinny Magalhaes: Flower Sweep to Triangle Choke

[SideControl1]

Absolutely AMAZING! THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!

[Brydonaka]

It makes me laugh how many people are trying to discredit what Vinny, an ADCC heavyweight champion, is teaching. Yes you can go for the armbar, yes the flower sweep isn't really involved other than underhooking the leg, blah blah blah. He is showing 1 option of 50 from this position, that is how you teach BJJ. If you don't like this FREE instructional, then don't watch it. End of.

[TheBroseidon123]

I don't understand where the "flower sweep" is involved..

[uXgotXmerked]

@Submissions101 When vinny goes for the triangle, the other guys leg is in perfect position to counter the triangle, so it doesn't really work. Any views on this?

[uhumn]

@uXgotXmerked Because he starts with inverted triangle, making his no longer in "a perfect position"

[DARQMX]

Too long too complicated armbar would be the way to go with these helichopper type sweeps

[jazandginger]

A big thanks to the submissions 101 team! I really like the 10th planet system, no gi stuff is the best!!

[1iguerra]

Just do the armbar. The video wouldve been about 2 minutes shorter and it's just as effective. Dudes arm gets busted or taps out, game over man.

[DanLujan]

kinda reminds me of vince vaughn

[theguybelowmefarted]

I learned this from my instructor and always did it successfully but never knew what it was called haha

[jahoppas]

If they are keeping that arm in tight, I remember you said to move your hips to get the arm out. If you cant get the arm out that way, can you throw the arm behind the leg instead of around?

[esauofrensfal]

Obviously, it's not him. But the guy he's working on looks a little like Filthy Tom Lawler. Maybe is the angle of the video, since I don't see it in the others. It's just weird.

Great stuff, though, as always. I'm a huge fan of Vinny's. He has an amazing game, very fun to watch.

[dratsabREVIEWS]

@esauofrensfal Looks like CM Punk to me.

[JKT6]

Man I love this guy's style!

[ADdadirector]

Genius...

[00jun13]

ive seens so many versions of the triangle set up, its umbelivable how many they are.

[GTWofficial]

Hey Subs 101 is Vinny still doing MMA?

[malicesgossips]

@GTWofficial he will be in the M-1 Challenge XXII show.

[Blackshinobi352]

This is a long move to master but looks like it would work

[mwallin12]

Does anyone know why Vinny switches to the reversed triangle before clearing the arm to the other side? I saw others that just push the hips up in order to be able to clear that arm. I was just thinking that there must be a purpose because the guy has killer-BJJ.

[stwjester]

@mwallin12 He does it to maintain control. Notice that he never lets go of the arm, but, in doing it the way he does, he doesn't allow the person to try to posture up, The Inverted triangle is for control to go into the choke.

[stwjester]

@mwallin12 He does it to maintain control. Notice that he never lets go of the arm, but, in doing it the way he does, he doesn't allow the person to try to posture up, The Inverted triangle is for control to go into the choke.

[91usmcsniper91]

the worlds most complicated and impractical triangle choke.

[MrGReaper187]

When you underhook with your arm to set up for the flower sweep, arent you putting yourself in a triangle choke??

[XxPinoyBroxX]

u copied this vid or somethin? just askin?

[Submissions101]

@XxPinoyBroxX Copied? Nope.

[letsrollbjj]

the arm bar is sic!!!!!

[teesidethai]

i think it looks far to complicated to be effective in mma or rolling

[viator22]

@teesidethai the armbar is much more direct but if uke is pulling hard to stop it the reverse triangle to triangle is a good option. Having weapons to fight your opponents reactions is never bad, and it's not a super complicated setup.

[Zevvion]

Nice video. Easy to understand and to do in practice. However, very complicated move to pull off for rolling or an actual fight. 

[Cheshykid]

my least favorite part of this is the part where the other guy can slip his head out.

[bananabread119]

@Submissions101

It's fine to error is human. But of course back to Vinny. Well alright where in a restaurant. Who do you think would win in a fight Vinny or a Tiger? haha jk

[bananabread119]

Wow?? I actually came back to apologize but found my comments removed and I'm being scoffed at? Sigh.. I just want to say that what I posted wasn't meant or used to be derogatory or used to slander anyone. I thought what we had was a healthy discussion, a discussion to which I merely pointed out some inconsistencies in that persons reasoning. If I offended anyone I apologize, but I really don't appreciate whats been said.

- em

[Submissions101]

@bananabread119 Your stuff is still on here...nothing has been deleted. And I don't mind being human from time to time and appealing to authority. Anyways, end of story...back to what matters...VInny!

[xMotherxPuncherx]

I think I'd be more inclined to go for an armbar from this position, because of how the leg is pulled into position. It just seems to me that this would be a deeper and more painful armbar than most others.

[VinnyMagalhaes]

@xMotherxPuncherx from this set up we went over 4 different finishes including the armbar... the armbar video should be up soon.

[xMotherxPuncherx]

@VinnyMagalhaes Alright, can't wait to see how you finish it.

[Submissions101]

@VinnyMagalhaes its going up now Vinny ;-)

[oscaromarjp]

@VinnyMagalhaes Vinnicious, You are my idol, one of my heros, I remember watching you in The Ultimate Fighter and now that I have the chance I have to ask, with all due respect my friend, In the final, how come did you lose to Ryan Vader like that?, he punched you and you kinda quit?, I think that fight had to end like that right?, that should be the right winner for TUF and Zuffa right?, I mean, you could beat Vader anyday anytime brother, by the way nice rib breaking kicks to Rashad's brother

[VinnyMagalhaes]

@oscaromarjp I quit like randy quit against brock, like machida quit against shogun, like shaub quit against roy nelson... if you rewatch all these fights, we will see that all of uf got hit in the temple, it doesn't seem clear, but that type of punch is worse than a punch squared in your chin. i was out, I woke up when Herb was already on top of me.

It took too much for me to make there, I didn't spend 6 weeks in a house, fighting 3x in 6 weeks, to just quit as you think i did... shit happens..

[oscaromarjp]

@VinnyMagalhaes I'm sorry man, I didn't mean to disrespect you, I was really concerned about it, I am a Gracie Barra (Gracie Barra Zapata, Acapulco Mexico), but I have no experience in Vale Tudo fights, I'm sorry for my ignorance in that matter, that thing you tell me is something I didn't know, now I know and you are so right, I'm looking forward to your next fight, respect man...

[kaliedoscopesharinga]

@VinnyMagalhaes Vinny, we are learning a technique very similar to the flower sweep in fact its probably the same thing. They just started teaching the flower sweep to students at lower belt levels to introduce it early so they could get acustomed to doing it i however am almost black belt now and im acostumed to using and underhook with controll over my opponents head so im not used to the flower sweep and ide like to know for shure its best if only attempted from the gaurd right?

[Submissions101]

@xMotherxPuncherx the armbar set up goes up tonight bro!

[xMotherxPuncherx]

@Submissions101 Thanks again! I'll be snapping arms tonight.

[VinnyMagalhaes]

Hey guys, I agree with some of you guys that think that there's some other easier ways to set up a triangle, and yes, there are a LOT of different ways, this one is just a variation that has really worked out well for me against high level competition. If you watch my match against Glover Teixeira in the last ADCC I swept him from that position, and also, You can find couple videos of me on youtube where I use that move.

[bananabread119]

2@Submissions101

Here lets do a quick exercise to help clarify things alittle more.

Jeff: What the Math teacher said in class the other day could be wrong.

Billy: Yeah well he's got a Masters from Berkley!

Jeff: True this maybe suggestive towards his expertise, but that doesn't directly address if he's wrong or not, nor does it address the problem itself.

Billy: Yeah but again he's a teacher!

Jeff: Ugh! Again where not addressing the problem itself. You're just appealing to his authority.

=)

[Hurricane23]

sick yes!!!!

[Zarat818]

good stuff! thanks

[wynkoop51]

hey i train there

[evildotcom]

can you please post more combos like that

[bamboocha923]

Submissions101, please dont respond to stupid questions. Please... Because I dont want to see them on top...

[fatguyonthc]

@bamboocha923 lol I agree. I start watching every video already annoyed.

[Submissions101]

@bamboocha923 you got it;-) My bad...My philosophy is : take what works for you and leave what does not. There are ALWAYS variations on moves for sure. Happy Rolling everyone!

[rhdadrian]

so where does the sweep come in??by just underhooking the leg ??

[fatguyonthc]

@rhdadrian Its the setup to a flower sweep that your modifying midway turning into a sub.

[FightDiary]

Nice. 

[Submissions101]

@VinnyMagalhaes Vinny, its about punching the other guy in the face ;-)

[SCR1V5CCFC]

dude's a wizard

[outdoorsman715]

@VinnyMagalhaes r u really vinny?

[Daron321]

I love the music in the background



[DanteHec]

That Vinny guy is a stud :p

[holywar911]

nice



[mixmasternut]

sweet!  I'm going to try and give that a go tomorrow on the mat

[TylerH2055]

this is pretty basic... not that good of a technique

[outdoorsman715]

why isn't vinny in ufc anymore? all he needs to do to win is pull guard

[Simplymatt937]

@outdoorsman715 He Got Cut After He Lost Two Fights In A Row, But They Should Have Given Him Another Chance Considering The Competition He Was Facing. He Does Have Excellent Ju Jitsu, But He Needs To Work On His Stand Up.

[gr00ms1]

Great stuff! The more high level stuff the better! Thanks Ari.

[LopezLenon]

I like the technique a lot but my only complaint is that pulling his arm up by his wrist is not that easy. It's easier if you snake in with your forearm and push up to get it over. I say this because I go for the triangle from meathook somewhat often and it honestly is easier than using the wrist. Do you have any input on this sub101?

[bananabread119]

Word to the wise you don't need to lift up the arm and pull your leg through to due a triangle, just stuff his elbow.

[Submissions101]

@bananabread119 While this can be true at times it should also be noted that a word to the truly wise is that Vinny is a world champion BJJ player. Just saying;-)

[bananabread119]

@Submissions101

ha Thanks but in philosophy that would be called an "appeal to authority" which is a logical fallacy. ;-)

ha You can guess what my video's are about.

[Submissions101]

@bananabread119 did my philosophy degree actually. My point is that your original statement alludes to that people who lift up the arm are not wise. The fact remains that it is the difference between an arm chair quarterback and an actual world BJJ champ.

[bananabread119]

@Submissions101

ha Well lets hope for your sake It wasn't Theology. But yet again you shamefully appeal to Vinny's status as a world champion. This Sir is a logical fallacy and for good reason. Now if you told me something along the lines of no bbread that is not a good move because of XY&Z rather than appealing to an authoritative means, then I would be much more willing to acquiesce. But instead you appeal to Vinny to modify said proposition, which at best only makes it suggestive.

[adamish1134]

@Submissions101 But looking at the move, it is odd that he doesn't just jam his arm down. I assume there is a reason, but I just can't see it.

[Submissions101]

@adamish1134 There are always different ways to pull off a move. I am sure Vinny may in fact jam the arm sometimes. People should look at the moves in parts not as a totality or end all be all.

[fatguyonthc]

@Submissions101 The point of BJJ is to be strong where someone else is weak. Its much easier to push up with an extended arm than it is to fight that movement. Also grappling is always a battle and no one move works in every situation against everyone. There may be a time where stuffing the arm may be better. Of course there will be a time when its not as well. When a Blackbelt that submits other world champion Blackbelts gives you a different way to do something, its probably priceless.

[fatguyonthc]

@adamish1134 some guys are so strong stuffing the arm down gives them the base they need to posture up out of a triangle, or to put their hand on your leg and pass their head to the outside. Vinny's way adds control and removes risk.

[kylep8514]

@bananabread119 When you throw a punch, do you aim for the tip of your opponents nose?

[bananabread119]

@kylep8514

Umm Idk I don't know how to box actually. ha

[kylep8514]

@bananabread119 so you have never thrown a punch?

[jtmsl]

@kylep8514 i aim for the neck because the head might go side to side but the neck has to move with the body!

[BrawlSucksBawls]

im probablly a noob but wow so many steps

[Submissions101]

@BrawlSucksBawls As Professor Pedro Sauer says: What is hard today is easy tomorrow. All about practice!

[patricknipsports]

i just want to see him do a flower sweep that looks so nice

[STEVEiaSTUD]

vinny has potential but no fighting spirit. he ought to stick to bjj rather than mma, cause hes very top notch on the ground, and ground only.

[Submissions101]

@STEVEiaSTUD Steve, are you an MMA fighter? Vinny has LOADS of fighting spirit. Have you met the man? He is very inspiring and has an intensity that is pretty wicked when he gets into FIGHTING mode. He is no doubt one of the best BJJ players in the world but discounting his fighting spirit is not only off side but untrue. Television is not what people should base their opinions on.

[69Macdaddy]

@STEVEiaSTUD lol a pretty closed minded comment. you would kinda have to know the guy really well to come up with a conclusion like that. i lol'd

[Submissions101]

@69Macdaddy Its the internet!

[cardonaman]

@STEVEiaSTUD lol bro vinnys my coach, and as soon as his knee gets healed from his resent surgery hes gona get back top training in the cage, yea he doesnt want to get punched in the face but then again who doed? the guys a contender...you really should get your facts straight bro

[Submissions101]

@cardonaman Don't get too upset Cardonaman....people make conclusions like this all the time. Vinny is a great guy (as you know) and we talked about the "internet" last time I was down in Vegas. He's legit...plain and simple.

[cardonaman]

@Submissions101 well said sir, hes a big name, i guess assumptions like this just comes with the territory

[VinnyMagalhaes]

@cardonaman this Vinny guy has all the potential... unfortunately he doesn't like to get hit in the face...

Fighting is all about liking to get hit in the face... oh wait.... never mind... :)

[cardonaman]

@VinnyMagalhaes vinny hush sir im tryin to stick up for u hahahah