it's true, the 82 Ferrari didn't offer great protection it was the 'ground effects' design that was to blame for the violence of the Villeneuve and Pironi crashes as it caused the cars to launch into the air with dreadful consequences...as a result ground effect designs were banned at the end of 82
The 1982 Ferrari gives me the shivers. One fatal crash and so nearly another fatal accident for Pironi. The front of the car was terribly weak and made out of aluminium (I think). Thank goodness for the strength of todays F1 cars.
i believe it is the driver of the safety/medical car or Professor Sid Watkins because he also used to wear racing helmets(to the amusement of some people) There is no other car stopped apart from Piquet's and it does not look like a driver's racing suit. I am fairly certain it is a medic because he is working with the doctors.
there is video footage of the accident although, thankfully, it has never been released fr public viewing. hopefully it never will. far too horrific to be shown.
Basically a copy-and-paste of Gilles' crash. Only difference is somehow Didier's belts barely hold him in the car but in awful shape. Piquet did try to help but got sick by finding out how ugly the accident ended.
In some ways, being thrown from the car can be a good thing, it all depends how lucky you are in landing. According to Professor Sid Watkins Gilles was otherwise uninjured except for his broken neck, in a ironic twist being ejected stopped his legs getting mangled but injured his neck. In the 50s they did not use belts because it was seen as a advantage to be thrown from the car in case you got crushed inside it or burned from the fuel.
I absolutely agree. I participate on a forum that includes many former Indy 500 and dirt track racing. They always said you were better thrown off the cockpit unless you land head first.
Pironi told in French-Canadian reporter Pierre Lecours' own book about Gilles that he had a case of stuck gas pedal and the car almost was destroyed in identical fashion to Gilles' one.
@scoregoals That's a very good point. Although there is debate as to whether his (Gilles) neck got broke when the nose first landed on the sandy section or whether when he landed on the fence. If it broke due to the fence, well then how damn unlucky really. -daz in oz
pironi had already nailed pole when he went out again to test a new set of wet tyres...he went past derek daly but the ball of spray from the williams hid a slowing prost. pironi's ferrari hit the renault at 150mph and somersaulted 300 yards down the track
I heard that Ferrari changed their belt system after gilles, in hindsight it was evident one of the 82 Ferrari drivers would be thrown out of the car at some point, and would save the other's life by doing so.
yes the spray was to much for didier to see prost - he thought when one car pulled out the way the track was clear - instead the prost was in the way and the car hit prosts rear and flipped and landed nosedown severley injuring pironis leg - this ment his leg was not capable of the braking stresses in f1 cars - he turned to powerboating and tragically lost his life of the isle of wight
the british press pulled no punches on this crash and had a close up picture of pironi in the car - very bad of them but it portrays the fact that f1 is very dangerous
I just read on a french forum that Pironi could, in fact, have ended exactly like Gilles. Only one of the 'submarine' belt straps kept him in his cockpit. Could sound like a very bad safety belt installation.
The Ferrari 126 of the 1982 world championship was a unique and frale construction, basically an aluminium honeycomb that were partly riveted and glued together, but the accident they suffered, any car would have destroyed themselves anyways
I agree. During all these years I could see many pics of Villeneuve and others sit in their cars without the body shell. No wonder why crashes were more severe for drivers.
Was the honeycomb alum. concept to add flex to the car?
It offered strenght and rigidity and lightweight, pushing aluminiun technology at the limit. Carbon fiber was the next logical step, much thinner construction but much more strong and lighter. But if you remember rider, back then, the driver's feet wat in front of the wheels, as of today, they rest at least30 inches behind the front wheels, the drivers of the past were brave men.
exactly right guys, i have heard people complaining the cars are fragile, the only thing that is fragile is there ability to understand the technical limitations of engineering in the late 70s and early 80s
@lazerpod66 That were glued? Were you one of the mechanics? Or one of the engineers? Did you plan the car or work on it throughout that season or are you just talking on the basis of some random internet article you saw somewhere years ago? Sources, please.
@monkeywrench666 Although I can't comment directly on the Ferrari 126, the use of glue in constructing a aluminum spaceframe chassis is very common. Lotus, Jaguar and Audi have been using glue in their aluminum spaceframes for years, and as the use of aluminum becomes more common with other manufactures, the practice is now widespread. Glue can be stronger than welding, it is cheaper to apply and lighter than welding - so, a win win situation.
A horroble end to a increadable racing driver. No he did not die in this accident, in fact, made a full recovery over the next sevral years, only to turn to power boat racing and in August 1987, in the lead, he lost his life. Truly a racer and a gentleman.
Nowadays drivers are much more protected, specially as their legs are positioned behind the front axle. A testimony to this is Robert Kubica's accident in Canada earlier this year when he walked away with a concussion and a sprained ankle after a 143 MPH shunt.
Track marshalls and other withnesses said something like 'Imagine Gilles staying in his cockpit during his crash and you have Pironi's one. Legs were almost taken off. Unbearable.'
Absolutely true. Even as a child then I stopped counting the numerous dead or badly injured drivers with this precise conception of monoplace cars. Fortunately by mid-80s it has already improved a little.
Thoses wing cars with their terrific power engine were too dangerous. I can remeber a word battle between JM Balestre and Pironi over the security circuits theme.
Esse acidente foi horrível. Mas Pironi se curou... Até morrer num campeonato d motonáutica em 1987, aos 35 anos. Vai fazer 20 anos q o Didier está morando com Jesus.
Pironi during 1982 brought much death to F1, Villeneuve, Paletti and then ended his own racing career. Villeneuve idol. We miss you ....
LuisValenti2001 6 months ago
looks like cheever with the red helmet
wibblewobble85 11 months ago
O famoso caixão sobre rodas
Danadao23 1 year ago
it's true, the 82 Ferrari didn't offer great protection it was the 'ground effects' design that was to blame for the violence of the Villeneuve and Pironi crashes as it caused the cars to launch into the air with dreadful consequences...as a result ground effect designs were banned at the end of 82
hugodrax71 1 year ago
Infelizmente ele veio a falecer em 1987.
pedigreealado 1 year ago
The 1982 Ferrari gives me the shivers. One fatal crash and so nearly another fatal accident for Pironi. The front of the car was terribly weak and made out of aluminium (I think). Thank goodness for the strength of todays F1 cars.
dazcouz 2 years ago
did anybody knows who is the driver with white and blue helmet and red vest that tries to rescue Pironi?
fastrelief 2 years ago
i believe it is the driver of the safety/medical car or Professor Sid Watkins because he also used to wear racing helmets(to the amusement of some people) There is no other car stopped apart from Piquet's and it does not look like a driver's racing suit. I am fairly certain it is a medic because he is working with the doctors.
scoregoals 2 years ago
piquet
sostangat 2 years ago
i think to remember he was nelson piquet....
frankieb1976 2 years ago
The guy in red with the crash helmet isn't Piquet. You can clearly see Piquet walking into shot at the very end of the video.
klesterchopperchipe 2 years ago
there is video footage of the accident although, thankfully, it has never been released fr public viewing. hopefully it never will. far too horrific to be shown.
rip didier.
fatboy69s 2 years ago
oh, look who's there? Nelson Piquet (Brabham #1) helping his mate and friend Pironi....
Gauchoo1234 2 years ago
yes it's piquet...and he nearly fainted after seeing pironi's injuries
stadioazteca 2 years ago
a very sad day...grande Didier!
stadioazteca 3 years ago
que ano macabro foi esse de 1982 !
palleti, giles , pironi se acidentando ...
honeydeise 3 years ago
Only thing I know is that Didier hit Alain Prost and flipped over him, high in the air and landed on his nose.
Traumatizering 3 years ago
Basically a copy-and-paste of Gilles' crash. Only difference is somehow Didier's belts barely hold him in the car but in awful shape. Piquet did try to help but got sick by finding out how ugly the accident ended.
RimRiderQC 3 years ago
In some ways, being thrown from the car can be a good thing, it all depends how lucky you are in landing. According to Professor Sid Watkins Gilles was otherwise uninjured except for his broken neck, in a ironic twist being ejected stopped his legs getting mangled but injured his neck. In the 50s they did not use belts because it was seen as a advantage to be thrown from the car in case you got crushed inside it or burned from the fuel.
scoregoals 3 years ago 4
I absolutely agree. I participate on a forum that includes many former Indy 500 and dirt track racing. They always said you were better thrown off the cockpit unless you land head first.
Pironi told in French-Canadian reporter Pierre Lecours' own book about Gilles that he had a case of stuck gas pedal and the car almost was destroyed in identical fashion to Gilles' one.
RimRiderQC 3 years ago
@scoregoals That's a very good point. Although there is debate as to whether his (Gilles) neck got broke when the nose first landed on the sandy section or whether when he landed on the fence. If it broke due to the fence, well then how damn unlucky really. -daz in oz
dazincalculation 1 year ago
pironi had already nailed pole when he went out again to test a new set of wet tyres...he went past derek daly but the ball of spray from the williams hid a slowing prost. pironi's ferrari hit the renault at 150mph and somersaulted 300 yards down the track
stadioazteca 3 years ago
I heard that Ferrari changed their belt system after gilles, in hindsight it was evident one of the 82 Ferrari drivers would be thrown out of the car at some point, and would save the other's life by doing so.
Alexgibbo5 2 years ago
yes the spray was to much for didier to see prost - he thought when one car pulled out the way the track was clear - instead the prost was in the way and the car hit prosts rear and flipped and landed nosedown severley injuring pironis leg - this ment his leg was not capable of the braking stresses in f1 cars - he turned to powerboating and tragically lost his life of the isle of wight
rip
2AyrtonSennaGODPilot 3 years ago
piquet stopped to help..
its not seen in todays formula 1 :(
bamboootscha 3 years ago
the british press pulled no punches on this crash and had a close up picture of pironi in the car - very bad of them but it portrays the fact that f1 is very dangerous
AyrtonSennaGODsPilot 3 years ago
so there are any pictures anywhere, or any other videos of the accident?
scoregoals 3 years ago
Isn't there a video of the complete crash?
I read in an interview with Pironi that he didn't have any pain in his legs until he was in the medical helicopter!
Traumatizering 3 years ago
nope no video
AyrtonSennaGODsPilot 3 years ago
I just read on a french forum that Pironi could, in fact, have ended exactly like Gilles. Only one of the 'submarine' belt straps kept him in his cockpit. Could sound like a very bad safety belt installation.
RimRiderQC 3 years ago 2
The Ferrari 126 of the 1982 world championship was a unique and frale construction, basically an aluminium honeycomb that were partly riveted and glued together, but the accident they suffered, any car would have destroyed themselves anyways
lazerpod66 3 years ago 5
I agree. During all these years I could see many pics of Villeneuve and others sit in their cars without the body shell. No wonder why crashes were more severe for drivers.
Was the honeycomb alum. concept to add flex to the car?
RimRiderQC 3 years ago 2
It offered strenght and rigidity and lightweight, pushing aluminiun technology at the limit. Carbon fiber was the next logical step, much thinner construction but much more strong and lighter. But if you remember rider, back then, the driver's feet wat in front of the wheels, as of today, they rest at least30 inches behind the front wheels, the drivers of the past were brave men.
lazerpod66 3 years ago 2
the first carbon fibre honeycomb chassis was in 83 mclaren mp4 driven by lauda and watson
AyrtonSennaGODsPilot 3 years ago
1981
ilferrari 3 years ago
exactly right guys, i have heard people complaining the cars are fragile, the only thing that is fragile is there ability to understand the technical limitations of engineering in the late 70s and early 80s
scoregoals 3 years ago
@AyrtonSennaGODsPilot No. it was the McLaren MP4/1 driven by John Watson and Andrea de Cesaris already back in 1981.
TheColinChapman 4 months ago
@lazerpod66 "glued together"...don't talk shit, pal.
monkeywrench666 2 months ago
@monkeywrench666 The 126 had some panels that were glued, do the research before doubting man.
lazerpod66 2 months ago
@lazerpod66 That were glued? Were you one of the mechanics? Or one of the engineers? Did you plan the car or work on it throughout that season or are you just talking on the basis of some random internet article you saw somewhere years ago? Sources, please.
monkeywrench666 2 months ago
@monkeywrench666 Although I can't comment directly on the Ferrari 126, the use of glue in constructing a aluminum spaceframe chassis is very common. Lotus, Jaguar and Audi have been using glue in their aluminum spaceframes for years, and as the use of aluminum becomes more common with other manufactures, the practice is now widespread. Glue can be stronger than welding, it is cheaper to apply and lighter than welding - so, a win win situation.
QT31160 1 month ago
Look at the Marshall (13 seconds) He grabs his head and walks away...must have been completely horryfing scene.
avidal7 4 years ago
was very alike like gilles dead accident at zolder tho he survive this time was kill later in 87 boat accident
joe744 4 years ago
A horroble end to a increadable racing driver. No he did not die in this accident, in fact, made a full recovery over the next sevral years, only to turn to power boat racing and in August 1987, in the lead, he lost his life. Truly a racer and a gentleman.
fauvenik 4 years ago 2
Nowadays drivers are much more protected, specially as their legs are positioned behind the front axle. A testimony to this is Robert Kubica's accident in Canada earlier this year when he walked away with a concussion and a sprained ankle after a 143 MPH shunt.
OttoAcosta 4 years ago
Track marshalls and other withnesses said something like 'Imagine Gilles staying in his cockpit during his crash and you have Pironi's one. Legs were almost taken off. Unbearable.'
RimRiderQC 4 years ago
All thoses car was build on the same method ... legs were ahead of the axle of wheels in the nose of the car without protection
bouilll 4 years ago
Absolutely true. Even as a child then I stopped counting the numerous dead or badly injured drivers with this precise conception of monoplace cars. Fortunately by mid-80s it has already improved a little.
RimRiderQC 4 years ago
Thoses wing cars with their terrific power engine were too dangerous. I can remeber a word battle between JM Balestre and Pironi over the security circuits theme.
bouilll 4 years ago
Not in that incident! He died in a boating accident.
Although Gilles Villeneuve never forgave him for what he did to him as a team mate.
TellerUlam 5 years ago
Ha, look what Senna did to his teammate
rosun82 4 years ago
You are a DOUCHE BAG !!!!!!
aguias51 3 years ago
did he die?
LightningMqueen 5 years ago
Esse acidente foi horrível. Mas Pironi se curou... Até morrer num campeonato d motonáutica em 1987, aos 35 anos. Vai fazer 20 anos q o Didier está morando com Jesus.
fabiooliveira73 5 years ago
Si !
Il devait être champion du monde
bouilll 4 years ago