yeah now this is really gritty industrial. Trent likes to dance to a beat too much like a normal person. Nah, I'm just kiddin' Reznor. I like disco beats too. In the 70s I would have fit in NOWHERE. You can't like disco AND rock n roll AND experimental AND punk! FUCK YOU BITCH I DO WAT I WANT
@Xabylon throbbing gristle wernt actually trying to make "music" at all in a sense.
they were as far as "musical" aspiration went, breaking away from the tired old rock/rythm and blues based scenario, but more importnatly, were applying their ritualistic and majikal knowlegde to public performace, that particualr generation saw the punk thing being used as a catalyst for experimenting with shamanic and ritual magick. and the throbbies certianly did a perfect job of that, and with PTV
I got a VHS years back called 'Industrial revolution'. It had a Willam Bourrows clip and later on had this live clip. I was floored, I didn't know what I'd seen but I was sure it was sincear. Like it or hate it this was brave emotional music.
@spunkets gen aint gay buddy.... true, well off background, but his rebellion was genuine and sincere. he just wasnt into pop, but wanted to do something with noise anyway. like or hate, dosnt matter.
@spunkets kinda missing my point. they were performing magick ritual, it wasnt music, so am trying to say liking or hating it musically, didnt matter, it wasnt working on that level, it was more like a re-awakening, genuinly, of primal forces, breaking away from "rock" forms and letting the inner tribal person be free again. a bit of a shamanic exorcism so to speak, & sincere, reminding us of who we were/are. great work i say, as long as you dont expect a rock gig. kno wot i mean?
Most of us don't video tape ourselves having an ecstatic experience during a really satisfying bowl movement. Its 'ecstatic' in no small degree b/c its NOT shared, viz., private.
This may, however, become acceptable as youtube evolves.
Musically? You're correct. Music for TG was a secondary consideration. And maybe this is why they suck (in a good way).
@spunkets you never noticed that much PTV and TG was derived from and the acting out of "exocisms" and unabashed magickal ceremony? cheesh! lol, many of the TG community were heavily into kabalik rythm-magick, and gematria etc. and "volitional picture spinning based on gematria and goetia. they did have a rather amateur suck edge yeh! ha ha, but the energy is very very good, powerful breakthru from that other world.
@KickDownDoors its not a mucial perfomance at all! they wernt a "rock" act, or a "rock n roll" act, etc, they were performing magick ritual and had no need whatso ever to follow rock convention, and wernt performing for a rock croud. back then many anarcho folk growing up from a punk bacground got into shamanix and TG accomodated this as it was what they were into themselves. not for everyone one, but they wernt playing for everyone. they didnt play music, they played rituals.
@allmenarerapists That's pretty awesome. I tend to listen to their live performances (which were released on cassettes back in the 70s and 80s and can actually be found on the internet) when I study or just read for pleasure. They tend to be mostly instrumental, and I honestly think they're better than their official albums (which happen to incorporate live performances in them as well... other than 20 Jazz-Funk Greats).
When watching this video. You have to put yourself in the time period. When is this from the late 70s?? That is completely fucked... These guys are fucking pioneers.
@christophebassett he's not trying to act scary. having attended throbbing gristle and early PTV rituals, he was pretty much off his face on LSD/MDMA and on a shaman trip, trying to break thru modernity, and trigger a psychick (magickal/shamanic/psychedelic) response. pretty cool wqhen it works, and especially if u are there in that envirnment when its happening. rock folk just wont get it
@dhaeze dont forget early butthole surfers, and foetus who were also into psychedelic full on unfettered ritual and excorcisms from modern society too. and on the humorous side of it, bongwater, and shockabilly (shimmy discrecords, and shimmy2)
@GarrettIsTheDinosaur I don't understand how you can make the comparison. One is pop and the other is experimental... both are on two completely different ends of the musical spectrum in rock (if you can even call TG "rock").
@JaackPat It was just a joke. I dont like nickleback at all so i could say that about every band. sorry for the confusion. thanks for not being a dick about it though. guys on the internet are nuts sometimes. hahaha
@GarrettIsTheDinosaur No big deal. Honestly, I don't let the anonymity of the internet turn me into a complete jackass... something many others should do. :)
@GarrettIsTheDinosaur how the bloody fuck can you compare the two. Don;t get me wrong, I'm no Nickleback fan, heck I live in a city with a radio station of a "no nickleback guarantee". So why compare the two
@ASDMarauder007 haha. chill out bro. im just messing around. Your looking way too much into my comment. im just being stupid and making fun of nickleback. you know if you play a nickleback song backwards you hear a satanic message... or even worse, if you play if forwards, you hear nickelback.
@Osthropek did you not read my comment? for people that listen to such an open minded, free style of music... some of you are really uptight and kind of douchey.
@JanitorPride2 indrustial (except piss like kraftwekr who were just nerds) acts tended towards trival shamanism, and were trying to find a way to express the primal within thru use of things around in the here and now.
later, metal bnds tried to bandwagon it, as with goth, but as ever always get the wrong end of the stick, and it becomes simply "bad" "evil" "satanic" spoiled middle class brattitudes. but yeh, choas magick was part of it, as was shamanism.
@gnowave What? Since when were Kraftwerk industrial :S and I like Kraftwerk, they had a HUGE influence on the electronic scene. They were anything but "piss", and they were more like progsters then nerds.
@JanitorPride2 am not joking, kraftwerk not only keep getting credited for house/techno/trance, but also industrial. the usual music magazine wakners as usual , they were more like NERDS than nerds. progsters WERE nerds, or hadnt you noticed? prog gigs were full of transpottery nerdy guys and no girls. though, thats got nothing to do with how good or bad a band is at their particular game.
@gnowave I dont agree, sounds rather judgemental but thats just an opinion. At least these days id rather industrial sounded more like this, instead of stuff like MM or NIN, who's supposadly industrial rock or something, which im kinda over.
@JanitorPride2 yeh good point about the einsturzendes. loved the track they contributed to the "smack my crack" compilation. total psychedelic ritualistic. (nothing to do with hippies) a 1982 butthole surfers track made it on there too! WOW! still about the best track they ever did about a dark LSD dream sequence, called "boiled dove".
If this was the first real industrial music, then The Doors was the first prog band, The Yardbirds was the first heavy metal band, and James Brown was the first rapper.
No they didn't, they had a drum beat, a guy crying, or screaming, I can't tell which, and a guy controlling the sound on his mic. Making noise come through a speaker doesn't make it music, you shit.
So? Steppenwolf coined "heavy metal", but no one thinks of them when they think of early heavy metal. Most people don't even know who they are. Creating a genre doesn't make it good music. It's literally just a fucking guy whining over a beat.
Because they are an abomination, an abortion of music. They are a dying fetus that the 1970's shit out, and allowed to live. It's fucking stupid. They shouldn't have been allowed to make music. Anyone who listens to them is stupid. Plain and simple.
@Socioistic anyone who dosnt like it so much shudnt be wastint their time bothering to put so much energy into what they hate! your not happy in life are you matey? go figure....
@Socioistic throbbing gristle WERN'NT A ROCK BAND! why cant metal fans get that? the first wave of industrial stuff were folk into ritual magick who made noise to accompany that. it just cant be compared to rock formatting as it isnt, and wont stand up to it, because its NOT ROCK. and isnt even music in the ense that most folk think of. its just ritual, for folk wether thru psychedelics or not who did magick and /or shamanism
@Socioistic i think you think industrial refers to either that limp kraftwerk genre, or NIN. both of which were formatted for the pop and rock scenes. throbbing gristle dont stand up when compared to either, because they were niether. they were performing magick ritual.
@Socioistic eh, actually, throbbing gristle WERE the first industrial band, they not only coined the term, but their label was also called "industrial records". there were around 50 big selling altenative bands of the 80s directly inspired by TG rituals
To say something that wouldn't sound like i'm pretending be an expert... or capable to appreciate this, i have to say i got to this link because de amazing Dj MAGDA SAID THIS WAS ONE OF THE THREE GROUPS THAT INFLUENCED HER THE MOST
@Muszynianka2 ironaically, they werny bout the filth, but like white noise, and velvet underground before them, they knew that most squares and rock folk would project their own "filth" into what they were doing.. born again christian have that "projection" problem too.....go figure....
@Cidantis yeh, generally becuase some were really tripping out on the very good acid available then, and letting stuff form in their minds. and others who werwe just there to say they had been their to be cool, who didnt know what was hitting them.
@MrGutley This was made back in the 70s before there was proper technology. The Industrial artists we see today are blessed with technology. I'd like to see you create a fucking genre with hardly any resources.
@JamesManes I don't think it was the lack of resources so much as the lack of songwriting ability or vocal talent on display here. Any halfwit can make a hideous noise, even an original hideous noise. Real talent involves making a racket that sounds good. TG achieved that for a small handful of songs, but not here.
@MrGutley Honestly it just sounds like you lack the ability to understand that other people have different tastes. Go listen to the song 1930 by Merzbow and get back to me. It sounds like nothing in music theory, but it had to be edited and produced. He took time to make sure it sounded right to him just as TG did.
@MrGutley The thing is, TG wasn't trying to sound good. You're fundamentally missing the point of TG. They were a shock art group. They were trying to be abrasive, and they succeeded. I like this song because of the awesome shifting polyrhythm and Genesis' amazing stage presence, as well as his tormented vocals. If you look under all the layers of noise the song is really quite an incredible piece of work.
@MrGutley you dont get it... they WERNY WRITING SONGS! they were free improvising, and performing ritual magick. comparing these guys to rock or pop formats dosnt hold up as they wernt doing that!
@JamesManes fair pint. and as far as the tenuously musical side of TG went, they could be compared with both skiffle bands of the 50s, and african tribesmen using what was around them to create noise, albiet here with TG a in ritualistic form.
@MrGutley they wernt a rock or pop band, and "experimental" here didnt mean experimenting with sound or noise in the sense it usually means, but they were doing ritual magick. your general pop or rock fan wont get that.
@khoroshoorange yes like cattle to the slaugther, nobody seems to rebel anymore, kids these days maybe...when mommy and daddy dont buy them an new iphone
i dont know there is potential out there. like the occupy movement.
and a lot of good opinions but everybody gets screwed and oppressed.
in the end some people think "its no use" and submit. but i dont think this can go on forever. eventually things will peak.. i mean a lot of positive things have been achieved through dissident.
@khoroshoorange i think you are right, and a relevant pijt to make on a TG comment page, there is a building wave against the narrowing confines of capitalistic life, and folk getting fed up with good waves of movement being hoodwiked back into the "fold".
@gohan11223344 totally bang on. shoes and shopping and just like american spoilt brat teen movies... and girls with arthur scargill (google images) hairdos, that is, hairdo's with big over-sweeps like what baldy old men have to hide baldness. emo bands just look and sound gay.
do anybody else's suggestions on the right there include a justin bieber christmas song featuring mariah carey? what a truly bizarre world we live in. i guess throbbing gristle and current child pop are now the same thing?
England had, this. I don't even know what to call it. I could call it "industrial". But I'm not going to. I'm going to call it "this". But "this" is very good.
@spicyMcHAGGIS9green america had hardcore punk and england had industrial? howmold are you? hardcore punk WAS english, and through bands like the dead kenedys was bnrought to attention in the US. though punk is the only genre you could possibly almost be able to compare TG to i suppose. the diference being even hardcore punk acts compose fully formatted traditionally written songs, where as TG improvize predominantly.
I make music with a very heavy Throbbing Gristle influence. If you like throbbing gristle you may (or may not, I don't know) enjoy my style of industrial music.
industrial music got much more complex as time went on thanks to people like trent reznor, but throbbing gristle gets under my skin more than pretty much any band. this is a great track that's also harrowing to listen to.
@gpenn2 you say complex. I say polished and for the most part souless :(. I mean did NIN actually SHOCK anyone like throbbing gristle did? Throbbing Gristle even shocked the punks...
@Silenceless NIN shocked lots of people when Downward Spiral became popular, but it's likely none of those people were remotely aware of Throbbing Gristle. I think there are more layers to NIN's music but Throbbing Gristle is more unsettling, in general. Both are great groups; they're rather different but I think both of have pushed lots of boundaries musically speaking. Just cause they have cheap imitators doesn't diminish what they've done.
@gpenn2 yeh, but NIN like all rock/metal bands are stuck with one single narrow format - METAL. and dont really encourage anything but midddle class thinking they are rebelks simply by being depresed, dressing in black, and cutting themselves, or getting drunk and maybe addicted to something.... however, it would have been nice to have heard more NIN/reznor techno mixes being done rather than metal sludge.
@rivet138 have you really listened to nine inch nails? it's clearly industrial rock. just cause it's not purely industrial doesn't mean it doesn't fall under that category.
This is probably as close as you can get to experiencing an authentic Pagan Dionysian ritual.
bobbyrosko 23 hours ago
@bobbyrosko I drew that same parallel myself.
albatros777 19 hours ago
They must have got heckled so much.
bencheshire 1 day ago
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"industrial music for industrial people" MABUHIGH, noisenotxmusic.blogspot.com
mabuhayguy 2 days ago
fuck i STILL love this video
aquacassey7 5 days ago in playlist Favorite videos
damn I love this song! x)
SteerayeBliatProd 6 days ago
funny how they are the founders of industrial and still nobody who followed even comes close to how extreme they were
Osthropek 6 days ago
Early WMUC-88.1 College Park, Maryland...thanks for this noise, Im not 'NorMal' and StiLL HatE corporate america. };-]
sabalouie2000 1 week ago
i really like this song, idk why
RareMusik 1 week ago in playlist Liked videos
@RareMusik I think it's because you need some discipline.
jamschnitter 6 days ago
Wow I want some of whatever the guy at 8:58 was on.
Bouchon211 1 week ago
@Bouchon211
I want what Genesis was on.
ScrewLimbBizkit 2 days ago
I want some discipline too.
ColonelAtavism 1 week ago
2:50 Nardwuar?
TheCreepsAreAlright 1 week ago
yeah now this is really gritty industrial. Trent likes to dance to a beat too much like a normal person. Nah, I'm just kiddin' Reznor. I like disco beats too. In the 70s I would have fit in NOWHERE. You can't like disco AND rock n roll AND experimental AND punk! FUCK YOU BITCH I DO WAT I WANT
plasticwrapcharlie 1 week ago
MY BRAAAAAIN!!
IT BURNS!
musicalrevo 2 weeks ago
292 idiots need some discipline!!
asdeadasleaves4 2 weeks ago
genesis is now a cool grandma.
asdeadasleaves4 3 weeks ago
it bears mentioning that this was (before their reunion) their last song at their last gig ever.
Osthropek 3 weeks ago
wtf
LivingDead53 3 weeks ago
It's easy to make good-sounding music. What's hard is having enough intensity and raw experimentation to make bad-sounding music a work of art.
Xabylon 3 weeks ago 4
@Xabylon throbbing gristle wernt actually trying to make "music" at all in a sense.
they were as far as "musical" aspiration went, breaking away from the tired old rock/rythm and blues based scenario, but more importnatly, were applying their ritualistic and majikal knowlegde to public performace, that particualr generation saw the punk thing being used as a catalyst for experimenting with shamanic and ritual magick. and the throbbies certianly did a perfect job of that, and with PTV
gnowave 3 weeks ago
A Divine noise!
rikstar23 3 weeks ago
292 people prefer Nickleback
AgonizedCandle 4 weeks ago 2
wow thats bad.
jeffboyardee 4 weeks ago
@jeffboyardee well, its called "experimental" music for a reason, its not for everyone
hellchild65 4 weeks ago 9
@hellchild65 this music is the world after 2012 its amazing
TheJames1233 3 weeks ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Throbbing Gristle
I went to a boot camp recently and before graduation I played this song to the other trainees. They all thought my taste in music was retarded. :)
AgonizedCandle 1 month ago 2
@AgonizedCandle brilliant! priceless comment!
gnowave 4 weeks ago
@gnowave Haha thanks for the acknowledgement
AgonizedCandle 3 weeks ago
I got a VHS years back called 'Industrial revolution'. It had a Willam Bourrows clip and later on had this live clip. I was floored, I didn't know what I'd seen but I was sure it was sincear. Like it or hate it this was brave emotional music.
Mondriantestpattern 1 month ago
Product of wealthy and dysfunctional family.
Couldn't always get his way, so became an angry punk, nihilist and homosexual in the same day.
spunkets 1 month ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Throbbing Gristle
@spunkets gen aint gay buddy.... true, well off background, but his rebellion was genuine and sincere. he just wasnt into pop, but wanted to do something with noise anyway. like or hate, dosnt matter.
gnowave 4 weeks ago
@gnowave
If it, "doesn't matter," why comment?
spunkets 4 weeks ago
@spunkets kinda missing my point. they were performing magick ritual, it wasnt music, so am trying to say liking or hating it musically, didnt matter, it wasnt working on that level, it was more like a re-awakening, genuinly, of primal forces, breaking away from "rock" forms and letting the inner tribal person be free again. a bit of a shamanic exorcism so to speak, & sincere, reminding us of who we were/are. great work i say, as long as you dont expect a rock gig. kno wot i mean?
gnowave 3 weeks ago
@gnowave
"Magick ritual?"
Most of us don't video tape ourselves having an ecstatic experience during a really satisfying bowl movement. Its 'ecstatic' in no small degree b/c its NOT shared, viz., private.
This may, however, become acceptable as youtube evolves.
Musically? You're correct. Music for TG was a secondary consideration. And maybe this is why they suck (in a good way).
spunkets 3 weeks ago
@spunkets you never noticed that much PTV and TG was derived from and the acting out of "exocisms" and unabashed magickal ceremony? cheesh! lol, many of the TG community were heavily into kabalik rythm-magick, and gematria etc. and "volitional picture spinning based on gematria and goetia. they did have a rather amateur suck edge yeh! ha ha, but the energy is very very good, powerful breakthru from that other world.
gnowave 2 weeks ago
Giving him discipline will result in being kissed.
S3fb 1 month ago
The guy at 8:58 - 9:20 is now an important member of the UK Independence Party.
richievegas01 1 month ago
What a crock of shit. This is stupid. Watching retarded and mentally ill jackoffs with a microphone is not a musical performance.
KickDownDoors 1 month ago
@KickDownDoors its not a mucial perfomance at all! they wernt a "rock" act, or a "rock n roll" act, etc, they were performing magick ritual and had no need whatso ever to follow rock convention, and wernt performing for a rock croud. back then many anarcho folk growing up from a punk bacground got into shamanix and TG accomodated this as it was what they were into themselves. not for everyone one, but they wernt playing for everyone. they didnt play music, they played rituals.
gnowave 3 weeks ago
I wish I was in that crowd
MissMurder1243 1 month ago
@MissMurder1243 Me too!
tracyvanity 1 month ago
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pedroincendio 1 month ago
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pedroincendio 1 month ago
this helps me study anatomy and physiology.
allmenarerapists 1 month ago in playlist anarko
@allmenarerapists That's pretty awesome. I tend to listen to their live performances (which were released on cassettes back in the 70s and 80s and can actually be found on the internet) when I study or just read for pleasure. They tend to be mostly instrumental, and I honestly think they're better than their official albums (which happen to incorporate live performances in them as well... other than 20 Jazz-Funk Greats).
JaackPat 1 month ago
When watching this video. You have to put yourself in the time period. When is this from the late 70s?? That is completely fucked... These guys are fucking pioneers.
ibanezgeorge 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
@ibanezgeorge This is actually from 1981. It's a clip from their last performance... which was in California.
JaackPat 1 month ago
@JaackPat Wow cool. Thanks for the info.
ibanezgeorge 1 month ago
mommy the bad man is screaming at me^^
Tobiemoss 1 month ago
He's trying to act scary but he's not fooling that audience haha.
christophebassett 1 month ago
@christophebassett Nah, I seriously doubt Genesis gives a fuck.
JamesManes 1 month ago 3
@christophebassett he's not trying to act scary. having attended throbbing gristle and early PTV rituals, he was pretty much off his face on LSD/MDMA and on a shaman trip, trying to break thru modernity, and trigger a psychick (magickal/shamanic/psychedelic) response. pretty cool wqhen it works, and especially if u are there in that envirnment when its happening. rock folk just wont get it
gnowave 3 weeks ago
haaahaaa this is why like music like the residents, captain beefheart, primus, devo,.. it puts a big smile on my face.
dhaeze 1 month ago 2
@dhaeze dont forget early butthole surfers, and foetus who were also into psychedelic full on unfettered ritual and excorcisms from modern society too. and on the humorous side of it, bongwater, and shockabilly (shimmy discrecords, and shimmy2)
gnowave 3 weeks ago
someone give the dude discipline already
geekusa59 1 month ago 2
omg was ist das für ein unglaublicher dreck!
ironman10005 1 month ago
these guys are so much better than nickleback.
GarrettIsTheDinosaur 1 month ago 21
@GarrettIsTheDinosaur I don't understand how you can make the comparison. One is pop and the other is experimental... both are on two completely different ends of the musical spectrum in rock (if you can even call TG "rock").
JaackPat 1 month ago
@JaackPat It was just a joke. I dont like nickleback at all so i could say that about every band. sorry for the confusion. thanks for not being a dick about it though. guys on the internet are nuts sometimes. hahaha
GarrettIsTheDinosaur 1 month ago
@GarrettIsTheDinosaur No big deal. Honestly, I don't let the anonymity of the internet turn me into a complete jackass... something many others should do. :)
JaackPat 1 month ago
@JaackPat ithink all the nickleback commenters were being ironic, and taking the piss. as nickleback are tame safe rock dudes, safely smoking pot.
gnowave 3 weeks ago
@GarrettIsTheDinosaur what a brillaint way to put it mate!
gnowave 4 weeks ago
@GarrettIsTheDinosaur how the bloody fuck can you compare the two. Don;t get me wrong, I'm no Nickleback fan, heck I live in a city with a radio station of a "no nickleback guarantee". So why compare the two
ASDMarauder007 3 weeks ago
@ASDMarauder007 haha. chill out bro. im just messing around. Your looking way too much into my comment. im just being stupid and making fun of nickleback. you know if you play a nickleback song backwards you hear a satanic message... or even worse, if you play if forwards, you hear nickelback.
GarrettIsTheDinosaur 3 weeks ago 28
@GarrettIsTheDinosaur These never get old. :)
bencheshire 1 day ago
@bencheshire the comments or the vids? haha
GarrettIsTheDinosaur 21 hours ago
@GarrettIsTheDinosaur what an unnescesary comment. most things are
Osthropek 2 weeks ago
@Osthropek did you not read my comment? for people that listen to such an open minded, free style of music... some of you are really uptight and kind of douchey.
GarrettIsTheDinosaur 2 weeks ago
@GarrettIsTheDinosaur that was my drunken way of being really funny
Osthropek 2 weeks ago
@Osthropek oh. hahaha. no further explanation needed.
GarrettIsTheDinosaur 2 weeks ago
It's weird too, industrial was one of the most anarchic and chaotic music genres, and it's now one of the strictest :/
JanitorPride2 1 month ago
@JanitorPride2 indrustial (except piss like kraftwekr who were just nerds) acts tended towards trival shamanism, and were trying to find a way to express the primal within thru use of things around in the here and now.
later, metal bnds tried to bandwagon it, as with goth, but as ever always get the wrong end of the stick, and it becomes simply "bad" "evil" "satanic" spoiled middle class brattitudes. but yeh, choas magick was part of it, as was shamanism.
gnowave 3 weeks ago
@gnowave What? Since when were Kraftwerk industrial :S and I like Kraftwerk, they had a HUGE influence on the electronic scene. They were anything but "piss", and they were more like progsters then nerds.
JanitorPride2 3 weeks ago
@JanitorPride2 am not joking, kraftwerk not only keep getting credited for house/techno/trance, but also industrial. the usual music magazine wakners as usual , they were more like NERDS than nerds. progsters WERE nerds, or hadnt you noticed? prog gigs were full of transpottery nerdy guys and no girls. though, thats got nothing to do with how good or bad a band is at their particular game.
gnowave 2 weeks ago
@gnowave I dont agree, sounds rather judgemental but thats just an opinion. At least these days id rather industrial sounded more like this, instead of stuff like MM or NIN, who's supposadly industrial rock or something, which im kinda over.
JanitorPride2 2 weeks ago
@JanitorPride2 is Psy-Trance a subgenre of industrial?
Hamburgers585 6 days ago
@gnowave I agree. I think joy division are have also a large part in the formation of industrial sound. I think :/
AnthropomorphicHorse 2 weeks ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Throbbing Gristle
Musical chaos, love it! I
love Einsturzende Neubauten more though, I recon they took it even further.
JanitorPride2 1 month ago
@JanitorPride2 yeh good point about the einsturzendes. loved the track they contributed to the "smack my crack" compilation. total psychedelic ritualistic. (nothing to do with hippies) a 1982 butthole surfers track made it on there too! WOW! still about the best track they ever did about a dark LSD dream sequence, called "boiled dove".
gnowave 3 weeks ago
@socioistic - so fucking what. who cares what you think.
jonnyjaywick 1 month ago
I haven't looked at this comment page in years.
Without digging too deeply into the pages and pages of comments, I think it's clear the same arguments are just being recycled over and over.
I'm sooo glad I turned off E-Mail notifications.
lelliesandremains 1 month ago 12
@lelliesandremains
Since your comment is now irrelevant, according to your own standards, its a miracle you came back to share your recycled opinion.
spunkets 4 weeks ago
If this was the first real industrial music, then The Doors was the first prog band, The Yardbirds was the first heavy metal band, and James Brown was the first rapper.
Socioistic 1 month ago
@Socioistic They pionerred Industrial music dumb ass.
IndustrialMilitia 1 month ago
@IndustrialMilitia
No they didn't, they had a drum beat, a guy crying, or screaming, I can't tell which, and a guy controlling the sound on his mic. Making noise come through a speaker doesn't make it music, you shit.
Socioistic 1 month ago
@Socioistic Have you ever heard the Industrial moto? "Industrial, because noise matters"
IndustrialMilitia 1 month ago
@Socioistic sound like your kind of industrial music is the multitude of bands doing heavy metal with electronic trappings!
the TG motto was Industrial Music For Industrial People. they coined the frase Industrial Music. they are the originators.
wwwescapeartistsdk 1 month ago 2
@wwwescapeartistsdk
So? Steppenwolf coined "heavy metal", but no one thinks of them when they think of early heavy metal. Most people don't even know who they are. Creating a genre doesn't make it good music. It's literally just a fucking guy whining over a beat.
Socioistic 1 month ago
@Socioistic then don't fucking listen to it, and let those of us who enjoy it listen in peace. It's that fucking simple.
WitchfinderGeneral56 1 month ago
@WitchfinderGeneral56
Because they are an abomination, an abortion of music. They are a dying fetus that the 1970's shit out, and allowed to live. It's fucking stupid. They shouldn't have been allowed to make music. Anyone who listens to them is stupid. Plain and simple.
Socioistic 1 month ago
@Socioistic Huh, sounds like you need some discipline
WitchfinderGeneral56 1 month ago
@Socioistic Also, a life. One not devoted to insulting a band you don't like.
WitchfinderGeneral56 1 month ago
@Socioistic anyone who dosnt like it so much shudnt be wastint their time bothering to put so much energy into what they hate! your not happy in life are you matey? go figure....
gnowave 3 weeks ago
@Socioistic throbbing gristle WERN'NT A ROCK BAND! why cant metal fans get that? the first wave of industrial stuff were folk into ritual magick who made noise to accompany that. it just cant be compared to rock formatting as it isnt, and wont stand up to it, because its NOT ROCK. and isnt even music in the ense that most folk think of. its just ritual, for folk wether thru psychedelics or not who did magick and /or shamanism
gnowave 3 weeks ago
@Socioistic i think you think industrial refers to either that limp kraftwerk genre, or NIN. both of which were formatted for the pop and rock scenes. throbbing gristle dont stand up when compared to either, because they were niether. they were performing magick ritual.
gnowave 3 weeks ago
@Socioistic eh, actually, throbbing gristle WERE the first industrial band, they not only coined the term, but their label was also called "industrial records". there were around 50 big selling altenative bands of the 80s directly inspired by TG rituals
gnowave 3 weeks ago
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Socioistic 1 month ago
To say something that wouldn't sound like i'm pretending be an expert... or capable to appreciate this, i have to say i got to this link because de amazing Dj MAGDA SAID THIS WAS ONE OF THE THREE GROUPS THAT INFLUENCED HER THE MOST
susanaosusu 1 month ago
oddly, not my thing
shambrawk 1 month ago
all the filth in the world
Muszynianka2 1 month ago
@Muszynianka2 ironaically, they werny bout the filth, but like white noise, and velvet underground before them, they knew that most squares and rock folk would project their own "filth" into what they were doing.. born again christian have that "projection" problem too.....go figure....
gnowave 3 weeks ago
put the snowflakes on and everything will be alright
aprilbucklin 1 month ago
HOLY FUCK!
NTVRDfmv 2 months ago
They where a revolution and my bands from industrial, ebm, trance, noise, ambient, wtf-ever still "borrowing" from them till today.
Madowstone 2 months ago
Love Gen.
nervsykins 2 months ago
i like how the audience really isnt moving at all.
Cidantis 2 months ago
@Cidantis yeh, generally becuase some were really tripping out on the very good acid available then, and letting stuff form in their minds. and others who werwe just there to say they had been their to be cool, who didnt know what was hitting them.
gnowave 3 weeks ago
Woah Gen! This is amazin'...would have loved to be there! So out there it's a bit scary!
TheeHitch 2 months ago
anyone know what year this was?
knppl 2 months ago
@knppl it would be 1981
gnowave 3 weeks ago
While it is fine for musicians to experiment, it is best to hide your failed experiments in the studio where they belong.
MrGutley 2 months ago
@MrGutley You definitely don't get the point of industrial, do you?
NightmareGanon 2 months ago
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GrognakTheTroll 2 months ago
@MrGutley This was made back in the 70s before there was proper technology. The Industrial artists we see today are blessed with technology. I'd like to see you create a fucking genre with hardly any resources.
JamesManes 2 months ago
@JamesManes I don't think it was the lack of resources so much as the lack of songwriting ability or vocal talent on display here. Any halfwit can make a hideous noise, even an original hideous noise. Real talent involves making a racket that sounds good. TG achieved that for a small handful of songs, but not here.
MrGutley 2 months ago
@MrGutley Honestly it just sounds like you lack the ability to understand that other people have different tastes. Go listen to the song 1930 by Merzbow and get back to me. It sounds like nothing in music theory, but it had to be edited and produced. He took time to make sure it sounded right to him just as TG did.
JamesManes 2 months ago
@MrGutley The thing is, TG wasn't trying to sound good. You're fundamentally missing the point of TG. They were a shock art group. They were trying to be abrasive, and they succeeded. I like this song because of the awesome shifting polyrhythm and Genesis' amazing stage presence, as well as his tormented vocals. If you look under all the layers of noise the song is really quite an incredible piece of work.
Demonologique 2 months ago
@MrGutley you dont get it... they WERNY WRITING SONGS! they were free improvising, and performing ritual magick. comparing these guys to rock or pop formats dosnt hold up as they wernt doing that!
gnowave 3 weeks ago
@JamesManes fair pint. and as far as the tenuously musical side of TG went, they could be compared with both skiffle bands of the 50s, and african tribesmen using what was around them to create noise, albiet here with TG a in ritualistic form.
gnowave 3 weeks ago
@MrGutley It's best if you just keep your pie-hole shut when it comes to something you obviously have no authority in.
thatvideosuckedhard 1 month ago
@MrGutley they wernt a rock or pop band, and "experimental" here didnt mean experimenting with sound or noise in the sense it usually means, but they were doing ritual magick. your general pop or rock fan wont get that.
gnowave 3 weeks ago
I'm not sure if I like it or not, but it's interesting.
Mertule93 2 months ago 3
All underground snobbery aside, this is thoroughly unenjoyable.
TheChirpingAssholes 2 months ago
@TheChirpingAssholes i think you mean to say its really awesome...
skrapyard444 2 months ago
I'm not sure whether this is supposed to be comedic or serious.
cadmus98 2 months ago
Throbbing Gristle is like a lost fetus in a dumpster. No one likes to talk about it, but its out there. Awesome music.
texasB666 2 months ago 14
@texasB666 best analogy
Decades81 2 months ago
esa tipa como que anda en drogas???
DarkOrlanD 2 months ago
@DarkOrlanD Drogas my friend definitely drogas ;P
dekiserbia 2 months ago
@DarkOrlanD LSD ritual
gnowave 3 weeks ago
Our society turns people into fucking sheeps.
khoroshoorange 2 months ago
@khoroshoorange yes like cattle to the slaugther, nobody seems to rebel anymore, kids these days maybe...when mommy and daddy dont buy them an new iphone
gohan11223344 2 months ago
@gohan11223344
i dont know there is potential out there. like the occupy movement.
and a lot of good opinions but everybody gets screwed and oppressed.
in the end some people think "its no use" and submit. but i dont think this can go on forever. eventually things will peak.. i mean a lot of positive things have been achieved through dissident.
who knows whats going to happen in the future.
khoroshoorange 2 months ago
@khoroshoorange i think you are right, and a relevant pijt to make on a TG comment page, there is a building wave against the narrowing confines of capitalistic life, and folk getting fed up with good waves of movement being hoodwiked back into the "fold".
gnowave 3 weeks ago
@gohan11223344 totally bang on. shoes and shopping and just like american spoilt brat teen movies... and girls with arthur scargill (google images) hairdos, that is, hairdo's with big over-sweeps like what baldy old men have to hide baldness. emo bands just look and sound gay.
gnowave 3 weeks ago
do anybody else's suggestions on the right there include a justin bieber christmas song featuring mariah carey? what a truly bizarre world we live in. i guess throbbing gristle and current child pop are now the same thing?
allmenarerapists 3 months ago in playlist anarko
America had hardcore punk.
England had, this. I don't even know what to call it. I could call it "industrial". But I'm not going to. I'm going to call it "this". But "this" is very good.
spicyMcHAGGIS9green 3 months ago
@spicyMcHAGGIS9green Do you like hardcore punk?
ohgr919 2 months ago
@spicyMcHAGGIS9green america had hardcore punk and england had industrial? howmold are you? hardcore punk WAS english, and through bands like the dead kenedys was bnrought to attention in the US. though punk is the only genre you could possibly almost be able to compare TG to i suppose. the diference being even hardcore punk acts compose fully formatted traditionally written songs, where as TG improvize predominantly.
gnowave 3 weeks ago
@gnowave Howmold am I? I'm not very moldy. I'd say I'm pretty ripe.
spicyMcHAGGIS9green 3 weeks ago
this is what it sounds like in my head every day at work, then i clock out, and pour some booze on the head and it sounds like LMFAO.
devoutheretic 3 months ago
love this!
jorave777 3 months ago
dis is eng-land
LenasAK47 3 months ago in playlist Weitere Videos von lelliesandremains
The best Song from TG!!!!
brutalmaster 3 months ago
this is fucking HORRIBLE whilst baked
ColtClockwork 3 months ago
fucking drugs
Suchinarov 3 months ago
LOL
zunaout 3 months ago
I just saw Genesis perform today. Man, he looks like a mess, but what a commanding voice. Absolutely fab.
GrogMindwhip 3 months ago
@GrogMindwhip Sorry, s/he looks like a mess, of course.
GrogMindwhip 3 months ago
Original industrial! I cut my teeth on this )
Thanks for putting it up!!!!
mitterben 3 months ago
WTF it got all gay at the end.
normtheclone 3 months ago in playlist normtheclone's favorites
I can't wait for the industrial version of the rapture.
liveatthewitchtrials 3 months ago
cmon you sheep want to get diciplined by Orridge, dont you?
khoroshoorange 3 months ago 3
@khoroshoorange I'd be a happy participant in an Orridge dictatorship
liveatthewitchtrials 3 months ago
@liveatthewitchtrials
haha okay i get the wood you get the oven..
khoroshoorange 3 months ago
somebody Discipline this dude, lol
NeoZource 3 months ago 3
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PolichinelaAzul 3 months ago
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PolichinelaAzul 3 months ago
i think he wants discipline
ohgr919 3 months ago 3
I make music with a very heavy Throbbing Gristle influence. If you like throbbing gristle you may (or may not, I don't know) enjoy my style of industrial music.
Lovejoydistribution 3 months ago
My speaker just fallen on the floor, while I listen to this.
letecagitara 3 months ago 2
fucking excellent
melbatunes 3 months ago
industrial music got much more complex as time went on thanks to people like trent reznor, but throbbing gristle gets under my skin more than pretty much any band. this is a great track that's also harrowing to listen to.
gpenn2 4 months ago
@gpenn2 you say complex. I say polished and for the most part souless :(. I mean did NIN actually SHOCK anyone like throbbing gristle did? Throbbing Gristle even shocked the punks...
Silenceless 4 months ago
@Silenceless NIN shocked lots of people when Downward Spiral became popular, but it's likely none of those people were remotely aware of Throbbing Gristle. I think there are more layers to NIN's music but Throbbing Gristle is more unsettling, in general. Both are great groups; they're rather different but I think both of have pushed lots of boundaries musically speaking. Just cause they have cheap imitators doesn't diminish what they've done.
gpenn2 4 months ago
@gpenn2 yeh, but NIN like all rock/metal bands are stuck with one single narrow format - METAL. and dont really encourage anything but midddle class thinking they are rebelks simply by being depresed, dressing in black, and cutting themselves, or getting drunk and maybe addicted to something.... however, it would have been nice to have heard more NIN/reznor techno mixes being done rather than metal sludge.
gnowave 3 weeks ago
@gpenn2 NIN is NOT industrial. It is alternative rock with influences of electronic music.
rivet138 3 months ago
@rivet138 have you really listened to nine inch nails? it's clearly industrial rock. just cause it's not purely industrial doesn't mean it doesn't fall under that category.
gpenn2 3 months ago