Permaculture 101

[JakeKline]

1:12

She uses the word 'agriculture' to talk about 'food production.'

Agriculture is just one method of food production, and it is, in contrast to permaculture, a much less elevated, productive/efficient, and a much more harsh use of land. It is extremely widely characterised by the exclusive use of flat, unstable, demanding, intrusive, pest-vulnerable, and destructive methods, such as in the super-common, row-cropping monoculture of my homeland. (Think corn and soy.)

[JakeKline]

0:57

"In Permaculture, the three ethics are: care for the earth, care for people, AND SHARE THE ABUNDANCE."

Why did she say, "setting limits to population and consumption"?? I've never HEARD such a thing, spouted off in place of real & true permaculture philosophy!!

I wish to know who this lady is, and why she is substituting her unimaginative, poverty-minded, new-world-order crap in place of the truth of abundance.

[jobedied]

Control of population and consumption moves directly into a full blown head on collision with wall street and our own government. GDP is based on an exponential growth of 4% to 5% and a steady population growth of at least 1.5 to 2% per year.

Economies based on science and natural process are great and should be what we aim for but will sorry to say not happening. World economies are based on greed, deceit, war, and exploitation. It's that simple straight forward and will not change easily.

[northwestblazinfire]

@jobedied we must be the change we wish to see!!

[rawer77]

is it possible for me to move to a place like this.

or how can i start from scratch

[VitalVeda]

I really appreciate what you are doing here, but PLEASE stop "using" other "sentient beings"! They have just as much right to live as THEY CHOOSE - not fenced (enslaved) where human animals think they should be! BTW, we humans are herbivore/frugivore... not designed to consume ANY "nonhuman" animal products ("their" milk or potential fetuses -eggs). earthsave.ca/articles/health/c­omparative.html THANK YOU!

[GooberSpunk]

" In rural USA most people are educated by the right wing corporate agenda."

Uhm, you do know that it's the "right wing" that encourages people to have their own land, own food, and own water source (private wells), so they are not dependent on the government, don't you? It's the "left wing" that encourages otherwise (they want you to be dependent on them, so they can control you), and it's the "left wing" that's in the education system now, teaching our kids to be socialists, to be reliant.

[jayliamahra]

I wish all the world to understand this way of living.

[rsaathoff]

Ideals and govt mandates on people make this no better than communist china. These types of mandates reduce Free Will and Liberty. Those govt. that impose shuch doctines are, when you look at the writings of marx and socialist and others, they are luciferian. You mention education, many state colleges project a socialist incdoctrination on youth. Most are funded by elite socialist engeneering endowments. We are beeing fed a heavy dose of mind control every day. Dont be so nieve and wake up.

[rsaathoff]

I agree with the basic priciples but I am totally turned off by the limiting of population metioned here. That is a UN luciferian doctine. See the Agenda 21 proposal by the UN.

I agree with this concept because it gives people independence from socialist government. Autonomy is Liberty. I also do beleive we should be good stewards of God's gift.

[Caoimhinism]

@rsaathoff We don't HAVE to make a lot of babies. If more adopt and not have more than 2 kids, the World might be just fine. Just cuz a thing is permissible, doesn't mean it is beneficial. I have no problem with only procreating once or twice and when I'm done with my education and settle down, I look forward to adopting as well. God gave us sense along with free will. So far we are not able to travel to and live on new planets, until then we might think about preserving this one for the future.

[CimaraNyx]

I've read several of these comments and there seems to be a bit of anger in some of the voices here. I'm not sure where that's coming from. I don't think she meant to limit one's right to procreate, but to limit ourselves to what each of us can handle without causing further negative impacts upon the Earth. just because we can fill a place, does that mean we necessarily need to? Education is key to getting back to self-sustainability. Big industry is the problem and people are the cure.

[footholdstraps]

is this only for white folks ?

[CimaraNyx]

@footholdstraps This is going on all over the world. Education is key, race doesn't have anything to do with education of the people.

[ispi05]

i don't want to get hurt either,i had daydreams came out of gealogy class,can say what earth is made of which might promote ...in short solutions. [going east has caused many problems]. This is not fair response to compassion.

[lezvarthok]

Ants overpopulate the earth, and its VITAL. Thats all we need to do, become more vital to the surrounding ecosystem. maybe permaculture is one valid way, but I dont see the way of the coming green food-energy-tower-structures to be wrong either.

[jammatoonarmy]

i have a very big problem with this video. she as much as calls for a reduction in world population! who is she/anyone to make such a claim at this point in our socail evolution? if you gave every man woman and child on earth one acer of land and we all moved to austrailia, it still would not be full, not by a long shot! what we need is not a reduction in world population but rather a revolution in harts and minds from the first world in how to live within our planet at peace with our fellow man

[Vettezuki]

@jammatoonarmy You should. It's commie-pinko-hippie-tree-hugge­r BS. I'm ALL FOR PERMACULTURE as a design system that is ecologically sound because I live on the planet and have a brain. But it's clear, and Bill Mollison repeated this ad infinitum, a core rational part of this system . . . is wait of it . . profit. He's smart. It's a productive system that can help feed the population of earth, our fellow human beings.

[pseudonamed]

@jammatoonarmy it's true there is a lot of "space" left on earth, but only so much is capable of growing food. we will run out at some point if the population continues to expand, because the earth itself is not growing larger over time. it is better to just have 1 or 2 children per family now, so that we can avoid having our descendants starve to death or die in food wars in the future, don't you think?

[jammatoonarmy]

@pseudonamed yes, i agree. but that wasnt how it was put, though. out of interest you might want to know i think my comment here was a little over-stated..it wound me up and that was shown in the self richeousness of my remark!! however i do think their is a constant attack on ppl as the cause of the enviromental problems we face upon this earth. as opposed to the government and trans-national corporations that have assigned value/ownership to every possible thing upon this once ever-green earth

[jammatoonarmy]

@jammatoonarmy lets really look at the problems at their cause, not in seperation but interconnectedly. as they really are and as all things in nature are - peace - inlakech.

[SteveHovland]

@nicolatwo: Lead by example. Do it. Benefit from it. Others will follow.

[DJMC5ive]

The things you are using and taking part in are very expensive. Where does the money come from?

[AbattoirDream]

global one-ness? no thanks.. 

[EKWisner]

That's a lot in 3.17 minutes!

Regarding comments - I often hear 'permie' fans lamenting the ignorance of rural (rednecks). Try reading up, or better yet, go out and ask century-farmers about the history of agricultural reform.

Rural folks know the land in roots and bones, not words. They been preached at for ages, by earnest college kids selling snake oil, bad science, and poison. \ Smart ones play dumb or flat-out lie when the latest opinionated city kid shows up.

They have reasons.

[knishkringle]

This looks more like typical agriculture to me. If you take the time and do you're research you will see that tilling the soil destroys the balance. I did not see one thing resembling "Permaculture" in this entire video!

[yongmudoapex]

Very cool, I love the permaculture principles. I'm a newbie but trying to learn as much as I can.

[paulwheaton12]

Is all this footage from one location?

[msophiasantiago]

Penny, I'm following the ecology of leadership, in my work for the Central Coast Community Invitation to Michelle Obama in 2011 or 2012..... and using the Permaculture Flower at the Center of the Event Design. Connecting our community to itself and inviting Let's Move! Campaign, Sam Farr's role and our local resiliency as a role model Community for the rest of the country. We Love You! Thanks for your brilliance and your guidance. Thank You. Namaste :: March 16.

[workwithnature]

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[skyjss]

I think we need to be careful about labeling rural people and right wing agendas. Many rural people I know grow their own vegetables, hunt for their meat, fish, and raise animals for food. Those are some of the reasons they want to live in the country. I just think increasing permaculture and treating the earth right will work better with sharing the strengths that we all have instead of labeling or demeaning our brothers.

[Zabai]

I am excited by the growing number of people who are realising the total myth that 'more is more.' It still fills the TV channels with promises that if only you have this product or lose this amount of weight or become a 'celebrity' then.....

I love the fact that many people are making different choices because it actually links with happiness (apart from the moral choices)

Really appreciate the video which adds to the huge awakening that is happening.

[999gandalfthekid]

HOW DO I FIND ONE OF THESE GROUPS!!!!!

[clockguy2]

I would like to learn about permaculture. Everyone tells how great it is, but no one tells how to do it.

[VTECsqznN2O]

@clockguy2 I found the same thing when I started (i am still learning) pick up the book "gaia's garden" if you haven't already :)

[tricky778]

@clockguy2 That's because nobody knows how to do it. It's a load of people who want to escape the rat race and want to trick people into funding their lifestyle. There are no successful permaculture projects that could feed, clothe, shelter, clean and medicate the population of the earth with the land available on the earth. This video offer population control as the solution - well yeah, if you cull people then we can live sustainably but is that the direction we should go?

[tpwebb3]

Beck: Good stuff! We have a three-bed garden plot in the back yard up here in Spokane. Trying to get the core members involved in this project is a struggle...but we're doing some nutrition education so we make get more involvement. Also doing simple things like setting up bird feeders to try and interest them to interact with nature....one step at a time...

[earthwayexperience]

Thanks...Keep it up! (-:

[YourGardenShow]

Great video. Very inspirational to see such importance put on natural ecosystems. Where is the Commonweal Garden?

[yedrow]

Hmm, who gets to choose what people get to live in the population control part?

[NARCOPOLO76]

@yedrow lmao

good point

[rayzn11]

Visionaries of peace can not emerge in the marketplace until competitive private currencies become legalized. The true creators of credit do so with their imagination and with the capital of their ideas. It appears the process of monopolistic force can not be stopped, and the continuance of blind production shall guarantee our destruction.

[kakudmi]

Great values.

One question: does your life-style include vegetarianism?

thanks

[nicolatwo]

Fantastic. We can all do this. But we need to educate the public about it. We need to find ways to bring this knowlege to the wider audience. In rural USA most people are educated by the right wing corporate agenda. How can we break through this? People resist new knowledge. I am scared of being hurt. Some people are violent when someone has new ideas on how to improve the community. What can we do? What can someone like me without money do to educate the community? I want to help.

[dusteroo]

" In rural USA most people are educated by the right wing corporate agenda."

very true !

[nicolatwo]

Hello, I thought you are Derrick Jensen or his son Zach, but maybe you are someone else. Whatever, thank you for your comment. We agree on this one. But why are you opposed to socialism, if you realize that the corporate agenda is doing harm? We gave them the power through total capitalism. Let's talk.

[renegadeloser]

any system can be manipulated by those desiring control. The soviet union clearly demonstrates that economics is not they only means of subjugation. The dark ages were a time when the elite hat total control, and the entire world was made up of socialist feudal manors. We must change the hearts and practices of men, not the systems they live under.

[tonyjohnbradley]

instead of socialism we should work toward a group of ecovillages. they would be self governing. If people work directly with nature and are in direct responsibility to take care of their needs and their community, people will not be crazy anymore (the craziness comes from the system not human nature.)

[Iquey]

the least you can do is approach people with love, and not fear I guess. Show that you love this idea, because it is good for you and them. and show them the benefits reaped from the effort.

[tonyjohnbradley]

I'm making a list of videos and putting them into emails and am going to send them to teachers at the local university. I recently dropped out of the university because of its partnership with the corporate agenda. I'm going to try to educate the teachers and hopefully some of them will switch sides and be in position to help us.

[TheNeocatZone]

@nicolatwo I know a way you could do it. If you run into someone from a real rural community and s/he starts ranting against these ideas, just say, "What are you talking about? You live by these ideas!" And then just explain how in response to each objection s/he stutters out. Tell me about the stunned faces you get if you ever get the chance!

[Caoimhinism]

@nicolatwo Exactly! I know it's an old post, but... I've been searching for a way to learn this for the last 3 months. I'm willing to work, apprentice, whatever. But nearly all seem to want to CHARGE big dollars, like USD 1000 to 3000 or more for a two week course. What? This knowledge needs to be FREE just like the lifestyle it promotes. This should not be a money making certificate factory. When I learn it, and I will, I'm going to teach for free. Mother Earth NEEDS this! We NEED this.

[Caoimhinism]

@Caoimhinism Before anyone cries... I live off much less than 1000 a month. Don't tell me you need to charge to let people put up a tent and walk around with you as you explain what you do. Besides you will be getting free work from us. I have no problem buying my own meals either, it wont cost me even 100 to last two weeks. People need to stop being greedy so we can all pitch in and heal our Earth Mother while freeing our Selves.

[attiliocg]

@nicolatwo Yes! I agree, we do need to get the knowledge of permaculture ethics and principles out to the masses, most of which have never ever heard the word "permaculture" before. Search "One Communuity Ranch" to see what I and a group of amazing like-minded individuals are creating to aid people like you and I, without money, in our quest to educate our global community on these ethics and principles and showcase how we can create "A NEW WAY TO LIVE". Much LOVE & THANKS to ALL!!

[punca]

i wish more people would do that

[1nessism]

thank you