@SR71CBlackbird Because there was once life on it obviously. All Owlman said was that it was thrown out of orbit, perhaps that killed the inhabitants in some way.
Owlman is the best villain of all times. And i respect him.
Feelling gratification at time of defeat, that i admire. He achieved most of his plan even with little lose he gain what he wanted, utter annihilation. Those words he says when he might survive by aborting the bomb are priceless. But what else could we expect from an alternative version of batman? They are both confident about their believes, and even at doubt they never change their previous decisions. Men with balls of steel.
Okay, here's how this works, when Batman fights Owlman two earths are created, one where he succeeds and one where he fails (or any number of plausible changes to the scene). Once batman appears as long as he's capable of winning the universe will be saved as Owlman will no longer be blowing up Earth Prime, just a new earth born of their conflict. In this way Batman actually makes the first decision ever.
@NightSpire Actually, since that leaves one universe where Owlman succeeds, the multiverse still would not exist as that other universe still shares the same Earth Prime, therefore, Owlman succeeded the minute he started the countdown.
@Dusen26 let me rephrase, once Batman appears another 2 earths are born, Earth 1 where batman wins and earth 2 where he loses and everything is destroyed, Earth Prime shifted the instance Batman appeared. The two fight on earth 1/2, not earth prime. Of course we're thinking about this more than the writers ever did.
@NightSpire Don't overplay Batmans part. Humans are the cataclysm and Owlman is a human. Thus even without Batman Owlman's plan is doomed from the beginning. There'll be one earth where he detonated the bomb with no branches and one where he didn't, creating infinite branches again. His plan would've succeeded had he sent the bomb through time alone without going back himself.
Lesson here kids: don't waste your time monologuing like Owlman (which Batman pointedly makes fun of) and just wait for the killer one-liner at the end.
@grevelo99 Ya but remember batman is fighting with a broken rib. The bad wonderwoman broke one of his ribs when they fought. So it makes it a bit hard when your fighting your supposed eqaul.
@grevelo99 1. Batman has broken rib. 2. Owlman has tech meant to kill. He isn't afraid to hold back like Batman is. Batman isn't all suited up to kill- he has a moral compass. It is harder to be good.
this is kinda...hard...i mean, if every choices we makes creates a different world...it doesn't mean that this Owlman did actually "won" in another dimention??? yet again, maybe there must be a lot more to happen, and maybe that's why a time machine can't work XD Pretty hard as i said. Then i think again, maybe not only choices creates dimentions, maybe even a different weather, sound or silence, movement or not movement...that put things worse to think about :D
@Yorcont No... There is only one prime Earth... that's why Owlman said he was making the only real choice... if you destroy everything then there is nothing left... no other realities. His choice would have no counter choice or variation, thus be unique/free of the laws of the universe... he would have free will
@Jester2415 then i dont understand why the Owlman is the only one that took that choice...well, actually i only can think 1 reason...For every "Owlman" that wants the only real choice, there's a Batman with some faith on man kind...yet again, pretty hard and repetitive.
@Yorcont Choosing something is not the same as carrying it out... I could choose to rob a bank but the police might stop me... my counter self chooses to sleep in that day... in both realities the bank remains un-robbed... the more lofty the goal the less likely it will succeed(like blowing up all reality) The planets had to kind of aline for this scenario to happen, two reality justice leagues clashing, the tech advanced enough, and a crazy enough Owlman to make that final choice...
question if their are multiple earths all resulting from different choices and outcomes making an infinite number of earths. Wouldn't one of these earth have owlman come to the same conclusion and plan and have batman try the same method of victory yet losing? So no matter how many universes are in existence, one of these earths would hold owlman victory so he would ultimately have his wish in the eradication of all the earths? Am I wrong sorry?
@TheTreehuggerGames I think it was actually impossible for him to succeed, because when he would destroy earth prime, the "multiverse" would split into a multiverse where earth prime was destroyed, and another where it wasn't. So even if he was to succeed he would still fail because in another multiverse earth prime would still exist.
@LuffyDshanks You are wrong there. I think the final ending is flawed.
We have to remember the premise that once earth prime is destroyed = everything would follow suit.
Simply put, if there was even the smallest amount of chance that he would succeed, everything would be destroyed. The division of nothing is well, nothing. The chance of failure, no matter how remote will end up being the catalyst for the end. Therefore everything should have been destroyed the moment he came up with his plan.
Owlman proves himself to be one step ahead of Bruce at every turn in this movie. It seems unlikely that he'd fall for such a trick like that at the end. He IS Batman, after all. Evil Batman, but Batman nonetheless.
Owlman had just beat the crap outta Batman and threw away his teleporter too. Probably thought Bats was trying a last desperate shut down of the bomb which Owlman no doubt secured against.
Owlman didn't account for Bats swiping his own device because of the same fatal flaws all villains end up failing to: arrogance and hubris.
ok so this is earth prim were every thing begins right so that means that batmans brith/gurms became the first life forms on earth so that meains everyone and everthing cumes from batman ---> feels like a boss
Batman and owlman actually. You know it is funny. Evil originated from owlman germs and good originated from batman germs, since Batman lasted longer on Earth Prime, since he stayed there. Then... that would mean batman germs would over populate over the owlman germs and thus good wins, because there were more batman germs over owlman germs.
The multiverse (or meta-universe, metaverse) is the hypothetical set of multiple possible universes (including the historical universe we consistently experience) that together comprise everything that exists and can exist: the entirety of space, time, matter, and energy as well as the physical laws and constants that describe them.
The term was coined in 1895 by the American philosopher and psychologist William James. The various universes within the multiverse are sometimes called parallel universes.
The structure of the multiverse, the nature of each universe within it and the relationship between the various constituent universes, depend on the specific multiverse hypothesis considered. Multiverses have been hypothesized in cosmology, physics, astronomy, religion, philosophy, transpersonal psychology and fiction, particularly in science fiction and fantasy.
In these contexts, parallel universes are also called "alternative universes", "quantum universes", "interpenetrating dimensions", "parallel dimensions", "parallel worlds", "alternative realities", "alternative timelines", and "dimensional planes," among others.
The Metaverse extends greater than the Multiverse actually and beyond the Multiverse lies the Xenoverse, the Ultraverse, and lastly, the Omniverse. There is also a mesoverse that stands between our proximity and the actual borders of the true universe. What we define scientifically as the universe, is really the mesoverse, because the universe is so much older and so much bigger.
Did you ask me to prove my theories are pure bullshit? You sure have a strange manner of communicating to someone. Could I insist that you work on your phonics skills?
@SmartGuy4today "You think I'm wrong so you must be narrow minded." Also omniverse is a theory by definition. Same way Evolution is, same way creationism is. There isn't anything to solidify them into law. That doesn't disprove them or dismiss them by any means, it merely means that one must research and test each one to see which holds the strongest.
@SmartGuy4today I do know what a theory is. A theory is merely a step up from a hypothesis. It might work, and there are suggestions that it will, but there isn't anything solid there. It isn't until a scientific deduction becomes a law that it is concrete. That's why theories can contradict each other while laws cannot. The point here is your claim that omniverse isn't a theory but a reality. There simply isn't anything that suggests it, you can barely call it a theory as it is.
I am sorry, but still have failed to demonstrate your ability to know what a theory is.
"Your claim for your theory to be reality suggests that you are the one not clear on the definition."
I don't have a theory. It has yet to be tested to be qualified as a theory. Thus it is a hypothesis. Try looking up the words if you don't know what they are.
@Potato22Head you really need to re-watch that movie. Jason turned bad because Batman didn't go and kill Joker for killing him. If you paid attention to the ending Jason asks why he won't kill just Joker for what he did after throwing him the gun. Either Bats shoots, or Jason will. Bats says if he does, he'll lose himself and then he stop Jason from killing Joker. Shall I quote you again, "reason such a situation has never arisen is because it defies the hero concept." Bats doesn't kill. Period,
@Potato22Head "what makes you think he wouldn't? I think it's quite clear the reason such a situation has never arisen is because it defies the hero concept." you clearly haven't watch Under the Read Hood. I suggest you do.
@Potato22Head owlman tried to wipe out the universe- thus killing people. Joker kills people. Batman won't kill Joker, but he killed owlman by strapping him to a bomb. What don't you understand.
@TheHaloChief117 Correction: He strapped him to the bomb WITH A CHANCE TO DISARM IT AND RETURN. DId you now watch the end? Owlman had a few moments to cancel the count down and batman even gave him the transport gun to come back, but Owlman said it didn't matter and chose to die. Like Batman said in Batman Begins "I wont kill you, but I don't have to save you."
@Potato22Head It may not make Batman a murderer, but he's still just as responsible for his death as ever. I think this whole Joe Paterno scandal is a good example of that: JoPa didn't molest that kid, but he didn't tell the police about it when he heard. He's just as responsible for this as Sandusky is. The same can be said here: Batman may not have physically killed Owlman, but he put him in that situation where it happened. He could have done something to stop it, like not tie Owlman down.
The one thing that I hate about this film, is it does the one thing that Batman never does: He kills someone. Because he killed Owlman, he breaks his one rule. Now, I understand that he had to stop that bomb from going off, but he didn't have to kill Owlman to do it. He could have easily just sent him back to his world and still stop the bomb. Killing Owlman was unnecessary.
@TheWofye Batman very clearly kills Owlman. He threw the dimensional device (or whatever it was called) at Owlman's feet. He tied him to the NegaBomb that was about to explode. He caused Owlman's death, because he tied him down to the bomb, and caused him to be teleported with the bomb that was about to go off. For that reason, Batman killed Owlman.
@RSrockies Batman wouldn't kill, hes not the one who set the bomb in the first place, owlman could have just pressed the big flashing NO on it, so why would batman be blamed over something owlman didnt choose to do, its like standing in the middle of the street when its a green light and choosing to stay there to blame whoever hits him. He just said "it doesnt matter" and let himself die, wasn't batmans fault he let himself die, he didnt paralyze him he couldve pressed the flashing "NO" thing.
@TheWofye Except that Batman should have known that Owlman was going to continue his Nihilistic viewpoint, I mean he is "The Worlds' Greatest Detective" for a reason. Because of that, he chose to still throw a man who doesn't care about anything into a situation that would kill him. Batman is as much to blame as Owlman is. He could have easily just held him back while the bomb teleported away. With that, the bomb is gone, no one is killed and Batman's moral code remains intact.
@RSrockies Well, i guess batman found a loophole "technically" he didn't kill him. But then again imagine if owlman would have survived... eugh he had one more way of surviving, he still had the transporter he could've easily sent himself back before the bomb went off too. Batman keeps his code (relying on anothers psychological impulse to commit suicide is not enough to be counted as murder) and the story has no cliff hanger
Why would destroying a ruined planet destroy all other planets in existence? All of the people there are dead yet life exists on the other planets; isn't that a flawed line of reasoning?
@al3zmi I understand the concept; if we destroy this planet, all other planets will by necessity be destroyed as well, but what makes them think that's the case? What makes the planet itself the crux of the other planets' existence when the same wasn't true for the individuals living on them? All other universes came into existence simply because of one planet's existence producing infinitely subtle choices that theoretically had to be played out, therefore the one planet is key?
@Sickopath333 the writers of the movie and the comic series it does not have to make sense its a simple story line plot that was thought of years ago there is no true science or reasoning behind it its just a plot your looking ito it too far and applying real world things to a comic book movie
Owlman is brilliant, the voice and everything... He is just what an evil batman would be like.
MandibleMuge 1 month ago
Is James Woods voicing Owlman?
Mariol7 1 month ago
@Mariol7 yes....
RogueWatcher4 1 month ago
@RogueWatcher4 Bitchin.
Mariol7 1 month ago
Why is there (primitive) architecture on Earth Prime?
SR71CBlackbird 1 month ago
@SR71CBlackbird Because there was once life on it obviously. All Owlman said was that it was thrown out of orbit, perhaps that killed the inhabitants in some way.
NuclearParadox 3 weeks ago
Owlman is the best villain of all times. And i respect him.
Feelling gratification at time of defeat, that i admire. He achieved most of his plan even with little lose he gain what he wanted, utter annihilation. Those words he says when he might survive by aborting the bomb are priceless. But what else could we expect from an alternative version of batman? They are both confident about their believes, and even at doubt they never change their previous decisions. Men with balls of steel.
BeetlePunk 1 month ago
Owlman is so cool
Thaeos 1 month ago
i cant help but feel this fight wouldve been over sooner if this batman wass voice by Kevin Conroy
xthedarkone 1 month ago 11
Why would owlman put an abortion sequence in a machine he likely made for the sole purpose of destruction?
asdgasdf2323 1 month ago
@asdgasdf2323 cause that's the RULE :P
xthedarkone 1 month ago
Okay, here's how this works, when Batman fights Owlman two earths are created, one where he succeeds and one where he fails (or any number of plausible changes to the scene). Once batman appears as long as he's capable of winning the universe will be saved as Owlman will no longer be blowing up Earth Prime, just a new earth born of their conflict. In this way Batman actually makes the first decision ever.
NightSpire 2 months ago 10
@NightSpire Actually, since that leaves one universe where Owlman succeeds, the multiverse still would not exist as that other universe still shares the same Earth Prime, therefore, Owlman succeeded the minute he started the countdown.
Dusen26 1 month ago
@Dusen26 let me rephrase, once Batman appears another 2 earths are born, Earth 1 where batman wins and earth 2 where he loses and everything is destroyed, Earth Prime shifted the instance Batman appeared. The two fight on earth 1/2, not earth prime. Of course we're thinking about this more than the writers ever did.
NightSpire 1 month ago
@NightSpire No, because everything is balanced on Earth Prime... If you destroy "It" you destroy everything. No branches. Total Annihilation.
MrMusX 2 weeks ago
@NightSpire Don't overplay Batmans part. Humans are the cataclysm and Owlman is a human. Thus even without Batman Owlman's plan is doomed from the beginning. There'll be one earth where he detonated the bomb with no branches and one where he didn't, creating infinite branches again. His plan would've succeeded had he sent the bomb through time alone without going back himself.
SR71CBlackbird 1 month ago 2
Lesson here kids: don't waste your time monologuing like Owlman (which Batman pointedly makes fun of) and just wait for the killer one-liner at the end.
TheRevolutionYeah 2 months ago
Why is owl man winning? If owl man and batman are both the same shouldn't they be match for match equal?
grevelo99 2 months ago
@grevelo99 Ya but remember batman is fighting with a broken rib. The bad wonderwoman broke one of his ribs when they fought. So it makes it a bit hard when your fighting your supposed eqaul.
Deathnotepuppetgod 2 months ago
@grevelo99 1. Batman has broken rib. 2. Owlman has tech meant to kill. He isn't afraid to hold back like Batman is. Batman isn't all suited up to kill- he has a moral compass. It is harder to be good.
tegb 1 month ago 3
this is kinda...hard...i mean, if every choices we makes creates a different world...it doesn't mean that this Owlman did actually "won" in another dimention??? yet again, maybe there must be a lot more to happen, and maybe that's why a time machine can't work XD Pretty hard as i said. Then i think again, maybe not only choices creates dimentions, maybe even a different weather, sound or silence, movement or not movement...that put things worse to think about :D
Yorcont 2 months ago
@Yorcont No... There is only one prime Earth... that's why Owlman said he was making the only real choice... if you destroy everything then there is nothing left... no other realities. His choice would have no counter choice or variation, thus be unique/free of the laws of the universe... he would have free will
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@Jester2415 God, hes a fucking fruit loop..
93Teejay 2 months ago
@Jester2415 then i dont understand why the Owlman is the only one that took that choice...well, actually i only can think 1 reason...For every "Owlman" that wants the only real choice, there's a Batman with some faith on man kind...yet again, pretty hard and repetitive.
Yorcont 2 months ago
@Yorcont Choosing something is not the same as carrying it out... I could choose to rob a bank but the police might stop me... my counter self chooses to sleep in that day... in both realities the bank remains un-robbed... the more lofty the goal the less likely it will succeed(like blowing up all reality) The planets had to kind of aline for this scenario to happen, two reality justice leagues clashing, the tech advanced enough, and a crazy enough Owlman to make that final choice...
Jester2415 2 months ago
OwlMan was owning Batman up in this movie
sinSAMA86 2 months ago
In conclusion to LuffyDshanks, I think that it is impossible for him NOT to succeed.
Snugglesup 2 months ago
question if their are multiple earths all resulting from different choices and outcomes making an infinite number of earths. Wouldn't one of these earth have owlman come to the same conclusion and plan and have batman try the same method of victory yet losing? So no matter how many universes are in existence, one of these earths would hold owlman victory so he would ultimately have his wish in the eradication of all the earths? Am I wrong sorry?
TheTreehuggerGames 2 months ago
@TheTreehuggerGames I think it was actually impossible for him to succeed, because when he would destroy earth prime, the "multiverse" would split into a multiverse where earth prime was destroyed, and another where it wasn't. So even if he was to succeed he would still fail because in another multiverse earth prime would still exist.
LuffyDshanks 2 months ago
@LuffyDshanks oh, I didn't even think about that. No matter what actions he takes prime would still exist. Making his whole plan flawed.
TheTreehuggerGames 2 months ago
@TheTreehuggerGames yea, it kinda sucks for him when you think about it that way since he believed that to be the only action with a meaning.
LuffyDshanks 2 months ago
@LuffyDshanks You are wrong there. I think the final ending is flawed.
We have to remember the premise that once earth prime is destroyed = everything would follow suit.
Simply put, if there was even the smallest amount of chance that he would succeed, everything would be destroyed. The division of nothing is well, nothing. The chance of failure, no matter how remote will end up being the catalyst for the end. Therefore everything should have been destroyed the moment he came up with his plan.
Snugglesup 2 months ago
@Snugglesup That makes my brain hurt
LuffyDshanks 2 months ago
Suicide. Everyone is alive now_^)
Toomnyusernae 2 months ago
Owlman proves himself to be one step ahead of Bruce at every turn in this movie. It seems unlikely that he'd fall for such a trick like that at the end. He IS Batman, after all. Evil Batman, but Batman nonetheless.
RachetRiolu 2 months ago
Owlman had just beat the crap outta Batman and threw away his teleporter too. Probably thought Bats was trying a last desperate shut down of the bomb which Owlman no doubt secured against.
Owlman didn't account for Bats swiping his own device because of the same fatal flaws all villains end up failing to: arrogance and hubris.
TheRevolutionYeah 2 months ago
You have 10million bombs with complex circuitry, programs and firewalls.... And this one bomb it has a "abort" button and he didn't push it... LOL XD
RobertAniFreak 2 months ago
Evil batman...god help us all
learsterling 2 months ago
or maybe superboy prime lost his shit. and destroyed earth.
eftultima 2 months ago
Hm.. Doesnt this mean that in another earth. There is a owl man that succeeded. And there for. Everyone should have died... Just saying.
Dthk13 2 months ago
@Dthk13 Who said that there aren't plotholes?
zeromaster212 2 months ago
brother vs brother (thomas jr vs bruce)
00dev 2 months ago
batman stil won vs owlman and batman had a broke rib! thats batman for ya
commderben 2 months ago
ok so this is earth prim were every thing begins right so that means that batmans brith/gurms became the first life forms on earth so that meains everyone and everthing cumes from batman ---> feels like a boss
royalsunce 3 months ago
Batman and owlman actually. You know it is funny. Evil originated from owlman germs and good originated from batman germs, since Batman lasted longer on Earth Prime, since he stayed there. Then... that would mean batman germs would over populate over the owlman germs and thus good wins, because there were more batman germs over owlman germs.
SmartGuy4today 2 months ago
It doesn't matter.
StyleGuy08 3 months ago
Lol, owl man owns so much.
1GuideToTheGalaxy1 3 months ago
I like how batman gets the most badass part and the most badass line!
kebster2000 3 months ago
I like Owlman's suit but it's the Spider-Man style eyes that are buggin me X_x
altermarvin21 3 months ago
The multiverse (or meta-universe, metaverse) is the hypothetical set of multiple possible universes (including the historical universe we consistently experience) that together comprise everything that exists and can exist: the entirety of space, time, matter, and energy as well as the physical laws and constants that describe them.
SuperGreatSphinx 3 months ago
The term was coined in 1895 by the American philosopher and psychologist William James. The various universes within the multiverse are sometimes called parallel universes.
SuperGreatSphinx 3 months ago 2
The structure of the multiverse, the nature of each universe within it and the relationship between the various constituent universes, depend on the specific multiverse hypothesis considered. Multiverses have been hypothesized in cosmology, physics, astronomy, religion, philosophy, transpersonal psychology and fiction, particularly in science fiction and fantasy.
SuperGreatSphinx 3 months ago
In these contexts, parallel universes are also called "alternative universes", "quantum universes", "interpenetrating dimensions", "parallel dimensions", "parallel worlds", "alternative realities", "alternative timelines", and "dimensional planes," among others.
SuperGreatSphinx 3 months ago 2
The Metaverse extends greater than the Multiverse actually and beyond the Multiverse lies the Xenoverse, the Ultraverse, and lastly, the Omniverse. There is also a mesoverse that stands between our proximity and the actual borders of the true universe. What we define scientifically as the universe, is really the mesoverse, because the universe is so much older and so much bigger.
SmartGuy4today 2 months ago
@SmartGuy4today Schizoid nihility, prove your sophisticated theories of pure bullshit.
ChuckSchuldinerRIP0 2 months ago
Did you ask me to prove my theories are pure bullshit? You sure have a strange manner of communicating to someone. Could I insist that you work on your phonics skills?
SmartGuy4today 2 months ago
@SmartGuy4today What you exclaimed sounds ridiculous is all I'm saying..
ChuckSchuldinerRIP0 2 months ago
Then that just means you have a very narrow view of the world. Trying opening up a little bit more.
SmartGuy4today 2 months ago
@SmartGuy4today What's the purpose of your omniverse theory, boarders on nihilism imo. How does it affect one's life in a positive way?
ChuckSchuldinerRIP0 2 months ago
Omniverse isn't a theory. It is a reality.
SmartGuy4today 2 months ago
@SmartGuy4today "You think I'm wrong so you must be narrow minded." Also omniverse is a theory by definition. Same way Evolution is, same way creationism is. There isn't anything to solidify them into law. That doesn't disprove them or dismiss them by any means, it merely means that one must research and test each one to see which holds the strongest.
ConfusedandFrustated 2 months ago
Hypothesis, not theory. To be a theory, it has to already hold credibility by scientific investigations.
Do you eve know what a theory is? Look it up in terms of the scientific method, you moron.
SmartGuy4today 2 months ago
@SmartGuy4today I do know what a theory is. A theory is merely a step up from a hypothesis. It might work, and there are suggestions that it will, but there isn't anything solid there. It isn't until a scientific deduction becomes a law that it is concrete. That's why theories can contradict each other while laws cannot. The point here is your claim that omniverse isn't a theory but a reality. There simply isn't anything that suggests it, you can barely call it a theory as it is.
ConfusedandFrustated 2 months ago
I am sorry, but you do not know what a theory is.
SmartGuy4today 2 months ago
@SmartGuy4today Clearly you are missing the point.
ConfusedandFrustated 2 months ago
You don't know what a theory is?
SmartGuy4today 2 months ago
@SmartGuy4today I do know what a theory is. Your claim for your theory to be reality suggests that you are the one not clear on the definition.
ConfusedandFrustated 2 months ago
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I am sorry, but still have failed to demonstrate your ability to know what a theory is.
"Your claim for your theory to be reality suggests that you are the one not clear on the definition."
I don't have a theory. It has yet to be tested to be qualified as a theory. Thus it is a hypothesis. Try looking up the words if you don't know what they are.
SmartGuy4today 2 months ago
@Potato22Head you really need to re-watch that movie. Jason turned bad because Batman didn't go and kill Joker for killing him. If you paid attention to the ending Jason asks why he won't kill just Joker for what he did after throwing him the gun. Either Bats shoots, or Jason will. Bats says if he does, he'll lose himself and then he stop Jason from killing Joker. Shall I quote you again, "reason such a situation has never arisen is because it defies the hero concept." Bats doesn't kill. Period,
TheHaloChief117 3 months ago
couldnt he just have aborted the bomb then gone back to earth prime and destroyed it?
Colorationz 3 months ago
@Colorationz I think he was depressed so he didn't care
Tech14Guy 3 months ago
@Potato22Head "what makes you think he wouldn't? I think it's quite clear the reason such a situation has never arisen is because it defies the hero concept." you clearly haven't watch Under the Read Hood. I suggest you do.
TheHaloChief117 3 months ago
@MorbidLucifer And then you watch the Batman Brave and the Bold with the same character... and you just want to cry.
xaayer 3 months ago
@Potato22Head owlman tried to wipe out the universe- thus killing people. Joker kills people. Batman won't kill Joker, but he killed owlman by strapping him to a bomb. What don't you understand.
TheHaloChief117 3 months ago
@TheHaloChief117 Correction: He strapped him to the bomb WITH A CHANCE TO DISARM IT AND RETURN. DId you now watch the end? Owlman had a few moments to cancel the count down and batman even gave him the transport gun to come back, but Owlman said it didn't matter and chose to die. Like Batman said in Batman Begins "I wont kill you, but I don't have to save you."
xaayer 3 months ago
@Potato22Head It may not make Batman a murderer, but he's still just as responsible for his death as ever. I think this whole Joe Paterno scandal is a good example of that: JoPa didn't molest that kid, but he didn't tell the police about it when he heard. He's just as responsible for this as Sandusky is. The same can be said here: Batman may not have physically killed Owlman, but he put him in that situation where it happened. He could have done something to stop it, like not tie Owlman down.
RSrockies 4 months ago
why is batman the only one without superpowers even owlman have superpowers
Cinolita13 4 months ago
@Cinolita13 "It doesn't matter." -Owlman
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'It doesn't matter'
matthewthrelfo 4 months ago
The one thing that I hate about this film, is it does the one thing that Batman never does: He kills someone. Because he killed Owlman, he breaks his one rule. Now, I understand that he had to stop that bomb from going off, but he didn't have to kill Owlman to do it. He could have easily just sent him back to his world and still stop the bomb. Killing Owlman was unnecessary.
RSrockies 4 months ago
@RSrockies Batman knew owlman could survive, owlman didnt choose to do so, batman didnt kill owlman, owlman killed owlman
TheWofye 4 months ago
@TheWofye Batman very clearly kills Owlman. He threw the dimensional device (or whatever it was called) at Owlman's feet. He tied him to the NegaBomb that was about to explode. He caused Owlman's death, because he tied him down to the bomb, and caused him to be teleported with the bomb that was about to go off. For that reason, Batman killed Owlman.
RSrockies 4 months ago
@RSrockies Batman wouldn't kill, hes not the one who set the bomb in the first place, owlman could have just pressed the big flashing NO on it, so why would batman be blamed over something owlman didnt choose to do, its like standing in the middle of the street when its a green light and choosing to stay there to blame whoever hits him. He just said "it doesnt matter" and let himself die, wasn't batmans fault he let himself die, he didnt paralyze him he couldve pressed the flashing "NO" thing.
TheWofye 4 months ago
@TheWofye Except that Batman should have known that Owlman was going to continue his Nihilistic viewpoint, I mean he is "The Worlds' Greatest Detective" for a reason. Because of that, he chose to still throw a man who doesn't care about anything into a situation that would kill him. Batman is as much to blame as Owlman is. He could have easily just held him back while the bomb teleported away. With that, the bomb is gone, no one is killed and Batman's moral code remains intact.
RSrockies 4 months ago
@RSrockies Well, i guess batman found a loophole "technically" he didn't kill him. But then again imagine if owlman would have survived... eugh he had one more way of surviving, he still had the transporter he could've easily sent himself back before the bomb went off too. Batman keeps his code (relying on anothers psychological impulse to commit suicide is not enough to be counted as murder) and the story has no cliff hanger
TheWofye 4 months ago
Why would destroying a ruined planet destroy all other planets in existence? All of the people there are dead yet life exists on the other planets; isn't that a flawed line of reasoning?
Sickopath333 4 months ago
@Sickopath333 from what i understand, if you destroy "Prime earth" the original earth it will destroy the other ones as they're copy of the original
al3zmi 4 months ago
@al3zmi I understand the concept; if we destroy this planet, all other planets will by necessity be destroyed as well, but what makes them think that's the case? What makes the planet itself the crux of the other planets' existence when the same wasn't true for the individuals living on them? All other universes came into existence simply because of one planet's existence producing infinitely subtle choices that theoretically had to be played out, therefore the one planet is key?
Sickopath333 4 months ago
@Sickopath333 the writers of the movie and the comic series it does not have to make sense its a simple story line plot that was thought of years ago there is no true science or reasoning behind it its just a plot your looking ito it too far and applying real world things to a comic book movie
maccajoe 4 months ago
I like how it really isn't the alternate of Superman that's the biggest villian, but the alternate of Batman.
dreamerboy84 5 months ago 20