this is one nation under god if i remember my history also you should study more about our funding fathers and see if they really wanted a separation of church and state i think you got it wrong if you read the quotes that George Washington, and Abraham Lincoln said about the bible and if you don't share the same Christian values may by you should go an live in China
most Catholics will vote for the right to choose although they are all pro-life. There is a separation between church and state. Worry about yourself, worry about your family, you cannot and will not impose your will on the hundreds of millions in this county, many of whom do not share the same beliefs. THat is the reality.
Everyone is pro life, no one is pro abortion, no body WANTS to have an abortion. Your pro-life because you have a choice, between two options, having a baby or having an abortion.
I love how an old white man with power, thinks that he has the right to tell women what to do with their bodies. He'll never have an abortion, he'll never be pregnant, he'll never have to make that choice. Of course it's easy for him to sit there tell people what they should do.
Abortion should be outlawed completely. The disgusting ad hominem attack that you must be some kind of religious nut if you oppose of abortion is ridiculous. People, religion CANNOT bring us back to another dark age. According to a times magazine there is an abortion every 30 seconds in Europe. Their pop is dying out,FAST. And soon there going to have more of the older generation folks then a new one. Its depressing because if you walk by some Euro parks you will see more dogs then children.
Those who support FOCA are hypocrites! They want the freedom of choice for an abortion. But at the same time want to force doctors and hospitals to perform abortions (or refer them to others to perform abortions) against their will.
Ok, and i would say that when you have sex, you accept whatever consequences come from it. Same idea no? Also, under Bush respect for doctor's consciences was upheld. Obama wants to change that. Doctors and nurses did not sign on to perform abortions. Its not part of their job requirements. Besides, since when do doctors have the obligation to perfrom any proceedure requested by the patient?
"...have sex, you accept whatever consequences..."
Sure, if you have a problem you can go to a doctor and take care of it, since we live in a modern scientific society where people don't die of preventable diseases hardly anymore. No thanks to religious nuts trying to drag us back into a new dark age.
Abortion is an issue only because our society has abandoned Gods Word. God would rather nip this problem in the bud before any abortion could take place. Deuteronomy 22:13-21 says if a man marries a girl and finds her not to be a virgin, then she is to be stoned to death. Notice the girl is to be killed without a concern of whether she might be pregnant. God doesnt want that selfish man stuck raising a baby which wasnt his! The bible god's answer is to kill both the girl and the baby
I believe every human being has the right over what they do with their own bodies. I might not make the same choice as another woman but all my children were planned and I was able to shelter and feed them; many women are not so lucky!
If I had no shelter and could not feed myself; I sure wouldnt choose to bring a child into that world!
ok, so you admit that your statement that "every human being hould be entitled to the same human rights" is not accurate. A fetus is a human being Period. It is a scientific fact that life begins at conception. Your rights to "your body" end when it interferes with the child's right to his/her body
Wrong. The woman's rights do not end with pregnancy; in fact they should be more valued as she is responsible for caring for that child. If she feels she cannot care for that child, then she alone is responsible for making the choice to end the pregnancy.
You're not a female nor are you capable of giving birth to anything, so it really doesn't matter what you think, as this is not about your rights, now is it?
Now if they demanded castration for every young male that impregnated a young female out of wedlock, then I could understand your concern. (smile)
This is a ridiculous comment. Abortion effects everyone, because anyone of us could have been aborted both male and female. When one group of people is victimized, it effects all of humanity. Either way, there are plenty of women in the pro-life community that would agree 100% with what i have to say. Sorry, making comments about my gender is not a refutation
this is another pro-abortion tactic. To shift the issue from abortion to the issue of welfare. Let me tell you something. The Catholic Church has done more for caring for those less fortunate then any other organization on the planet. So the ad hominem attack that pro-lifers don't care about the welfare of those single parents with children is absurd. of course we want to help those less fortunate. And yes, i do believe in heath care, food stamps ect. provided that they eventually get jobs
A fetus has no mind, is not conscious, can not even feel until about 3-4 months into pregnancy. This is why most people can pull the plug on someone who is brain dead with little guilt because in essence the person is already dead.
Of course you believe in magic and ensoulment, but most of the society lives in reality.
So what? By what authority does this fact make or break personhood.
And there is a big difference between somebody who is brain dead and and infant forming in the womb. One is basically dead and there is nothing more anybody can do but let nature take its course. The other is an infant forming in the womb. Common sense tells us that its not the same thing. But i would say that pulling the plug in cetain instances is wrong too case in point Terry Schivo
Personhood is determined by the existence of a mind, not a body.
Additionally do you know that 50% of natural pregnancies are NATURALLY aborted? According to your supernatural worldview I think you ought to be petitioning your deity to stop killing so much.
I suppose your radical ideology would also prevent you from humanly ending the life of a terminal patient in immense pain begging for release, no you would force them to suffer. Disgusting.
Now if the government will legalized same sex marriage then I can tell you it will be very interesting to see how many religous fanatics will go bonkers.I wish they'd legalize same sex marriage and stop judging people based on sexuality.
Haha, yeah. I like Obama even more now. If the Catholics think they can hold the nation hostage by shutting down their hospitals I can think of an adequate response; revoke their tax exempt status, and if that doesn't work, nationalize their hospitals.
its not about "holding the nation hostage" its about refusing to go along with abortion of Obama signs FOCA which would require catholic hospitals to perform abortions
let me ask you this. Will you admit that to force doctors and hospitals to perform abortions against their will is anti Choice? If so, then isn't uspporting abortion under the banner of "choice"hypocritical.
Simple version: Health and Human Services is threatening to cut off funding to Catholic medical instructions if they don't provide abortion services
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romanghost22 1 month ago
this is one nation under god if i remember my history also you should study more about our funding fathers and see if they really wanted a separation of church and state i think you got it wrong if you read the quotes that George Washington, and Abraham Lincoln said about the bible and if you don't share the same Christian values may by you should go an live in China
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standingontruth1 4 months ago
most Catholics will vote for the right to choose although they are all pro-life. There is a separation between church and state. Worry about yourself, worry about your family, you cannot and will not impose your will on the hundreds of millions in this county, many of whom do not share the same beliefs. THat is the reality.
LakersSOCA 11 months ago
lol... shutting down hospitals over abortion. that is fucked up.
Sahrinzs 11 months ago
Everyone is pro life, no one is pro abortion, no body WANTS to have an abortion. Your pro-life because you have a choice, between two options, having a baby or having an abortion.
jessabellababy 1 year ago
I love how an old white man with power, thinks that he has the right to tell women what to do with their bodies. He'll never have an abortion, he'll never be pregnant, he'll never have to make that choice. Of course it's easy for him to sit there tell people what they should do.
jessabellababy 1 year ago
THere is a lot of hatred towards anyone that is prolife like The arialbomb
gotchawiseguy 1 year ago
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2000yrCatholic 1 year ago
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mjtf1113 1 year ago
Abortion should be outlawed completely. The disgusting ad hominem attack that you must be some kind of religious nut if you oppose of abortion is ridiculous. People, religion CANNOT bring us back to another dark age. According to a times magazine there is an abortion every 30 seconds in Europe. Their pop is dying out,FAST. And soon there going to have more of the older generation folks then a new one. Its depressing because if you walk by some Euro parks you will see more dogs then children.
Aeros802 1 year ago
Abortion = BAD
Queering Young Boys = GOOD
TheAerialbomb 2 years ago
Those who support FOCA are hypocrites! They want the freedom of choice for an abortion. But at the same time want to force doctors and hospitals to perform abortions (or refer them to others to perform abortions) against their will.
OneTrueChurch 2 years ago
Not really, one chooses to to into the profession of heathcare, if they don't like their job requirements they can find a new place of employment.
studio7manga 2 years ago
Ok, and i would say that when you have sex, you accept whatever consequences come from it. Same idea no? Also, under Bush respect for doctor's consciences was upheld. Obama wants to change that. Doctors and nurses did not sign on to perform abortions. Its not part of their job requirements. Besides, since when do doctors have the obligation to perfrom any proceedure requested by the patient?
OneTrueChurch 2 years ago
"...have sex, you accept whatever consequences..."
Sure, if you have a problem you can go to a doctor and take care of it, since we live in a modern scientific society where people don't die of preventable diseases hardly anymore. No thanks to religious nuts trying to drag us back into a new dark age.
"Its not part of their job requirements."
They signed on to help people, yes they did.
studio7manga 2 years ago
Bill Donohue is such a scary character. He's from the last century, like the 1950s. I heard the Catholic League is just him and his computer.
tonygem 3 years ago
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If you don't like abortions, then don't have one. Not everyone has to accept the christian belief that life begins at conception.
There's only 120,000 adoptions in the US a year, and there's more than 1.6 million abortions.
Where are all of the unwanted babies going to go?
If you want to successfully decline abortions like other countries have, than invest in better sex ed, and birth control.
lilmerboy 3 years ago
abortion is murder
Paddy234 3 years ago
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Abortion is an issue only because our society has abandoned Gods Word. God would rather nip this problem in the bud before any abortion could take place. Deuteronomy 22:13-21 says if a man marries a girl and finds her not to be a virgin, then she is to be stoned to death. Notice the girl is to be killed without a concern of whether she might be pregnant. God doesnt want that selfish man stuck raising a baby which wasnt his! The bible god's answer is to kill both the girl and the baby
exodus21v20 3 years ago
silly americans, maybe we should let you kill youselves
Paddy234 3 years ago
Every human being should have the same "human rights" regardless of gender, race, religion, location or sexual orientation PERIOD!
Keep your religion in your churches and OUT of State affaires, or start paying taxes on every dime that hits the plate!
wiskawind 3 years ago
funny how librals say this but deny infants in the womb their human rights
OneTrueChurch 2 years ago
I believe every human being has the right over what they do with their own bodies. I might not make the same choice as another woman but all my children were planned and I was able to shelter and feed them; many women are not so lucky!
If I had no shelter and could not feed myself; I sure wouldnt choose to bring a child into that world!
wiskawind 2 years ago
ok, so you admit that your statement that "every human being hould be entitled to the same human rights" is not accurate. A fetus is a human being Period. It is a scientific fact that life begins at conception. Your rights to "your body" end when it interferes with the child's right to his/her body
OneTrueChurch 2 years ago
Wrong. The woman's rights do not end with pregnancy; in fact they should be more valued as she is responsible for caring for that child. If she feels she cannot care for that child, then she alone is responsible for making the choice to end the pregnancy.
wiskawind 2 years ago
this of course persupposes that a woman has the right to end the pregnancy. I dont believe that she does.
OneTrueChurch 2 years ago
You're not a female nor are you capable of giving birth to anything, so it really doesn't matter what you think, as this is not about your rights, now is it?
Now if they demanded castration for every young male that impregnated a young female out of wedlock, then I could understand your concern. (smile)
wiskawind 2 years ago
This is a ridiculous comment. Abortion effects everyone, because anyone of us could have been aborted both male and female. When one group of people is victimized, it effects all of humanity. Either way, there are plenty of women in the pro-life community that would agree 100% with what i have to say. Sorry, making comments about my gender is not a refutation
OneTrueChurch 2 years ago
You are trying to take the rights of women away; the right to choose what happens to their own body and their lives!
You will not be there to feed or clothe that child; you're finished after you force her to have it!
Do you approve of Welfare and medical for all these children you want to save; food stamps and free housing also?
wiskawind 2 years ago
this is another pro-abortion tactic. To shift the issue from abortion to the issue of welfare. Let me tell you something. The Catholic Church has done more for caring for those less fortunate then any other organization on the planet. So the ad hominem attack that pro-lifers don't care about the welfare of those single parents with children is absurd. of course we want to help those less fortunate. And yes, i do believe in heath care, food stamps ect. provided that they eventually get jobs
OneTrueChurch 2 years ago
And you are trying to take the rights of doctors away who oppose abortion and want to act in accordance with their consciences.
OneTrueChurch 2 years ago
A fetus has no mind, is not conscious, can not even feel until about 3-4 months into pregnancy. This is why most people can pull the plug on someone who is brain dead with little guilt because in essence the person is already dead.
Of course you believe in magic and ensoulment, but most of the society lives in reality.
studio7manga 2 years ago
So what? By what authority does this fact make or break personhood.
And there is a big difference between somebody who is brain dead and and infant forming in the womb. One is basically dead and there is nothing more anybody can do but let nature take its course. The other is an infant forming in the womb. Common sense tells us that its not the same thing. But i would say that pulling the plug in cetain instances is wrong too case in point Terry Schivo
OneTrueChurch 2 years ago
"....does this fact make or break personhood."
Personhood is determined by the existence of a mind, not a body.
Additionally do you know that 50% of natural pregnancies are NATURALLY aborted? According to your supernatural worldview I think you ought to be petitioning your deity to stop killing so much.
I suppose your radical ideology would also prevent you from humanly ending the life of a terminal patient in immense pain begging for release, no you would force them to suffer. Disgusting.
studio7manga 2 years ago
Now if the government will legalized same sex marriage then I can tell you it will be very interesting to see how many religous fanatics will go bonkers.I wish they'd legalize same sex marriage and stop judging people based on sexuality.
seeleunitone 3 years ago
Haha, yeah. I like Obama even more now. If the Catholics think they can hold the nation hostage by shutting down their hospitals I can think of an adequate response; revoke their tax exempt status, and if that doesn't work, nationalize their hospitals.
studio7manga 3 years ago
its not about "holding the nation hostage" its about refusing to go along with abortion of Obama signs FOCA which would require catholic hospitals to perform abortions
OneTrueChurch 2 years ago
If you don't want to follow the laws of the country then you can expect a nationalization of your hospitals.
Remember condoms cause AIDS, and don't forget about those 100's of millions of Native Americans you killed. "Culture of life" my ass.
studio7manga 2 years ago
let me ask you this. Will you admit that to force doctors and hospitals to perform abortions against their will is anti Choice? If so, then isn't uspporting abortion under the banner of "choice"hypocritical.
OneTrueChurch 2 years ago
"Will you admit that to force doctors and hospitals to perform abortions against their will is anti Choice?"
No they choice to become public servants. Also, learn the difference between slogans and philosophy.
studio7manga 2 years ago