michael jackson y bob frosse

[zuflyro]

sea lo que sea michael jackson se puso mas abusado,,, y por eso es lo que THE KING OF POP ,,,,, THE BEST OF THE BEST... Y COMO DICEEN LOS COMENTARIOS ... """" BAILA COMO MICHAEL JACKSON,, PERO NO MEJOR QUE MICHAEL JACKSON..""""SALUDOS A TODOS Y DEJENLO DESCANSAR EN PAZ O LES BA A BENIR A JALAR LAS PATAS CULEROS,,,....

[pablo71153]

ACA LO QUE SE DEMUESTRA QUE BOB FOSSE ERA EL GENIO Y NO MICHAEL JACKSON, QUIEN COPIO A QUIEN?

[hintlo1]

The snake influence....

[fxym]

this guy is just making some random steps, MJ used to dance jazz, tap, popping, locking and glidding, I don't see any of that in this video!!!

[jaconor73]

joer si baila como michael jackson...es buenisimo

[toxaonline]

if ppl had youtube when MJ started i wonder if he woulb a star at all ...

[bluesmol73]

Look, I don't want to say that MJ copied Bob Fosse (not Frosse), but for me the problem is that today, as uses to happen, no one knows Bob Fosse (Cabaret, 1972, 10 Oscars, and All that Jazz, 1979, another 4 besides best movie in Cannes). Anyway, you can compare, the images talk by theirselves, the style, the movements, some of the clothes, is at least, quite quite similar, and as someone said, you should have a look at All that Jazz and you will find Thriller there.

[bluesmol73]

@bluesmol73 sorry Cabaret just 8 oscars, 10 nominations :)

[MsReeReeChiq]

MJ didn't acknowledge Fosse as he had Astaire and James Brown. I LOVE MJ, but I am not going to defend this just because its him. He should have done more to acknowledge Fosse. When considering that Fosse's career went on decline nearly simultaneously as Michael's was on an ascent, Michael should have at least given some sort of thanks to Fosse. Further, Fosse had style and Grace. Michael really perverted some of his Fosse's move. No no wanted to see all that crotch grabbing.

[LunaxicaL]

OMG

[MadlenJackson]

And people say that I'm crazy xD

This video is real thing which show that I'm normal! xD

great!

[oarhmjc]

la gente ya no save ni qur inventarse son capases de matarse por publicar una noticia para ganar dinero que tal si yo te digiera que tu mama le copio la pasta ala mia yo no soy quien para desirtelo verdad y mucho menos para que me creas dejen a mike empas porfavor si mo pudieron de jarlo tranquilo en vida porlomenos haganlo ahora si , si el mundo te jodiera la vida como se la jodieron a el lo entenderias , porfavor ya mo crean tanta vasura y tampoco digan tanta basura porfavor

[deliamv]

Decir que Michael Jackson superó al maestro, es no entender ni conocer a Bob Fosse, que más que bailarín fue coreógrafo, (Cabaret, Chicago....) Michael Jacson bailaba coreografías impuestas sin que eso quite su valía. Y me encanta Michael Jackson pero Bob Fosse fue uno de los grandes. Compararlos es ilógico. Me parece normal y probable que Michael cogiera de este gran artista pasos y los hiciera suyos creando algo nuevo. (seguramente lo admiraba).

[keilar07]

y si fuera al revés?. A mi no me cierra el año como una fecha en la que MJ no hubiera ya estado creando y realizando estos pasos. Igualmente si así no fuera, el alumno superó al maestro.

[Johnnyseven1]

ok y si michael se inspiro en algo para hacer su reino.. porque esos en los que se inspiro no triunfaron igual que el.. porque?.. porque aunque no sea totalmente original el lo volvio algo grande algo con lo que un tipo no hizo nada el lo hizo asu manera y triunfo si no es asi porque mas, el talento no se copia... pero provoca inspiracion!!!

[deepseximinimaltech]

@Johnnyseven1 algo ?? jaja se " inspiro" en todo hasta en los guantes , mira hasta se le ven las medias por los pantalones cortos !! el moonwalker jaja osea su exito se basa en bob fosse.. no podes sssss que bajonn por diosss

[TheBladeozan]

lol wait wait wait.... some people said michael jackson stole some moves from this guy and apllied them in his own stage performance.LOoooooooooooooooo­oooooooool anyone who thinks like that perhaps have a fucking camel poo inside their head instead of a brain.Just fuck off this is a just retard dresses up BLack in a desert and dances randomly like faggots and stupid random moves ROFL!

[CommitItToMemory]

This "retard dressed up black" is actually academy award winning Bob Fosse who happens to be one of the most influential choreographers of the 20th century. MJ(R.I.P)was INFLUENCED by him (not stealing his moves) and did in fact apply Fosse's moves to his routines in his own unique way. Maybe if you read WFCooper's comment (below) you would understand and be better educated since clearly you know so little on the subject.

[TheBladeozan]

fuck off

[EvanConnellyNovacek]

hace poco acabo de ver la película, y mi sorpresa fué grande... la película es de 1974, por lo que fué primero...

ahora.. me pregunto si MJ quizo vestirse de esa manera, e interpretar esos pasos, solo por lo original... o tendrá algo que ver la relación sobre el personaje de la serpiente, (que representa al mismisimo diablo) : / ... también me llama la atención ese sonido "ssSSSSshh" que MJ hace en muchas de sus canciones

[WFCooper]

Let me set the record straight: Artists are inspired and influenced by others. Of course MJ was influenced by Astaire, Fosse, Kelly and others. Combining their moves, adding a pinch of James Brown & Jackie Wilson, he did all those moves and then some to SOUL. The arguments are moot. All artists borrow techniques and fuse them into their own styles. That MJ was a historian and studied from them all puts him along side them all. ALL OF THEM: FOSSE, KELLY & ASTAIRE acknowledged MJ's greatness.

[gargajus]

Couldn't Have Said It Better

[TheBladeozan]

michael jackson never combined moves, his moves are all unique.

[RRainey20]

@TheBladeozan Sorry, they are not. Even Michael admitted to that. But he always said that you have to watch the greats and become greater. In the end, Michael put a unique spin on those moves that was his own. But no, a lot of Michael's moves were not orignal.

[thefonkykid]

@WFCooper why MJ fanatics can't accept that MJ copy Bob Fosse moves? MJ never did anything new, he just rob cool moves and credit himself for it.

MJ fanatics need to know that been influenced and been a thief are two totally different things. Watch Fosse film "All that Jazz" where you can see the "Thriller" moves step by step.

[pighardcore]

Puta, igualito, se nota al toque que es copia...

[xmjjraulx]

yo no le veoo nada igual :S solo lo de las calctas blancas pèroo asi se usaba desde los 50s

[FraueleinAspirine]

Michael tuvo tantas influencias que hubiese tardado como mil años en nombrarlas todas. Decía que incorporaba movimientos y vestuarios como un homenaje, además Jeffrey Daniels, ex integrante del grupo Shalamar, fue coreógrafo de Michael y decía que 'no bailaba contando 1,2,3,4, sino pow,pow,zoom, es decir, bailaba con la música' Fosse era seco y fue vícitma de su propia estructurada manera de trabajar.Mike fue es y será seco.

[FraueleinAspirine]

Si no me creen, vean Jeffrey Daniel's Influence on Michael Jackson

/watch?v=K0-isEu89aA

[necromicum]

de acuerdo contigo bro, era un pendejo que bueno que se lo leevo la verga

[Drokerx]

michel jakson era un copion le copio bob frosse aynos damos cuenta que michel no era original no entiendo por que vene ran a la puta esa maricona de michel jakson aparte era un puto pendego pedofilo y un asi la gente pendeja lo beneran lla se que va aver un pendegito que me va con testar de una ves les digo que digan lo que medigan me vale una mierda no se como lo considera un rey el no era un rey era solo un selos vuelvo a recor dar que lo que medigan me vale una mierda

[MsCinx]

que comentario de mierda hiciste pelotudo. quisiera saber kien sos asi t kgo a trompadas. como podes dcir eso d michael jackson sos un ignorante. deberias lavart la boca primero antes d hablar d el. es el rey del pop. t guste o no lo es gil. chupa pene. anda ala puta hijo de perra. culo roto

[Skater81591]

ok i find this guy creepier than Michael Jackson! Anyone else agree with me?

[dogbizkitband]

i saw the vid...and the only thing that i have to say is that i saw the vid only to hear the most amazing Michael Jackson song.....

[BinaryNinja]

I don't see how you guys can defend MJ. He didn't take these moves and make them his own, he just straight up stole them, and from a white guy of all places.

[Gtarjosh]

Donch ya'll know amateurs create and pro's steal!

HAHA nah Nothing comes from nothing. Its all inspiration and taking away infinity and starting somewhere, and Michael def did that and took it into the stratosphere. Long live the King!

[deestunner]

Dude, googlw Bob Fosse (That's the guy dancing). A critically acclaimed, award-winning dancer and choreographer. Far from an amateur.

[yserrant]

Yo this dude is DOPE. If I was MJ I'd definitely be tryin to do some of these moves myself.

[myspacedjraghkstar]

ppl stop saying that he "stole" cuz u sould like idiots. EVERY artist borrows from ppl they admire to create the artist that u see. mj used a lot of elements n dance and borrowd from many (the b-boys on the block, poppers & lockers, james brown etc. including astaire, frosse and others) ALL the greats do it and have done it. prince, stevie, michael the beatles, stones, kenny rogers EVERYONE!...so in the words of the late madge sinclair from coming 2 america "put a sock in it jaffe!" ~raghkstar

[giraenvano]

Si la envidia fuese tiña cuantos tiñosos habria.

Me parecen dos genios ambos.

Si no sos un verdadero grosso no podes inspirarte en otro grosso y hacer algo de calidad similar.

Esta campaña desprestigiante que me llego demuestra lo peor de la mediocridad mal llevada.

[azvideoguy]

ALL artists steal. In art school, you do master copies, that's how you learn the lessons the masters have to teach. Then you take what the greats have to give, and make it your own, which Michael certainly did. It's just to bad he didn't have his home life together. All artists have their demons too.

[appleblossomxo]

I couldn't find it on youtube, but if U get the opportunity to watch MJ & Fred Astaire on The Mike Douglas Show, MJ was very excited to meet Fred Astaire. Astaire explained dancers should wear high-water pants so the audience could see the dancer's foot movements. Does that mean MJ "stole" the style? No. He was a hungry dance student & for lack of a better word "mentored" by the greats, including Fosse. MJ perfected the "Moonwalk". He worked hard & we loved / admired & appreciated HIM for it.

[appleblossomxo]

Michael Jackson was not silent about his love / admiration & appreciation of great Film dancers. During interviews in the 1970's, that was a topic MJ "often" discussed - the fact that he watched dance films & spent much of his time trying to learn & perfect the dance moves. Did you ever read/hear him say he invented the dance-style? Songs - yes, dance styles - no.

[twistatoe]

Now remember everyone: other people were influencing how Michael dressed, acted, what he did, said.. etc. Hollywood is always that way, and it's always intertwined. So who knows, the guy who designed this character, could have somehow (either directly or indirectly) influenced michael, his designers, his stylists.. etc etc.

[aeroboy3177]

haha look hes trying to steal that kid!

[Landesko]

Oh my god! Michael jackson stole his shit! Forget about the King Of Pop. He should be called the King Of Rip! Its Michael "The Rip Off" Jackson. Hell, im a huge fan of the gloved one, but i have to say that he stole this mans stuff.

[MarcusDarling4026]

Oh, You ain' know? Jacko was marketed as the Hip- Hop version of Bob Fosse. His stuff was big in the seventies, influencing pop stars like Jackson & Benetar, with musicals, like "All That Jazz", "Cabaret", "A Chorus Line" & even obscure efforts like THIS one!

Its been said that "the good borrow & the GREAT, STEAL".

I guess you can see it, right here!

lol

[ikelaw]

That´ssss the worssst cassse of plagiarisssm ever!!

Esss el peor cassso de plagio de la hissstoria

[auxi138]

El parecido es increíble...

[therootstree]

Fred Astaire. Mike got a lot of his moves from him and made them look fly.

[jazzimr]

ademas de pedofilo ladron el culiao

xD

jajajja

weno iwal

me gustaba su estilo con jackson five

creo q bajare la peli

saludos al q subio esta wea por contribuir a desmitificar weas.. shaito

[spudwas]

Gee what a surprise....Michael wasn't first. Thought so.

[illpipersraindance]

that is a pretty good match up. It gets better and better from the first "ooh"

[mrminio]

GREAT! ORIGINAL IS BETTER!

[Ayonkru]

It's great.  Nothing new under the sun, or moon. I wonder who Bob Fosse studied.

[schoolgyrl6]

i think mj and fosse were both inspired by astair in some way, which would explain the similarities.

[minasz]

hahahaha tis is funny

[rmunozf]

pero si es cierto weon..de hecho yo mismo le presentare una mina morena a tu hijo!!! he dicho..racista de mier....además que yo sepa no eres pa na blanco wn nortemearaucano!!!!

[kiokamen]

jaja.....jaja....wn perseguio...

= es negro y copion...jjajaja

[rmunozf]

kiokamen racista..ojala q tu hijo se case con una mujer de raza negra

[kiokamen]

AJJAJA...wn pesado...jaja

[kiokamen]

jackson...copion....peor aun...NEGRO Y COPION...jajaja

[kiokamen]

Jackson copion...peor aun...NEGRO Y COPION JAJAJAJAA

[kiokamen]

ES =...jacksno es un maldito copion...peor aun es NEGRO Y COPION jajaja

[nirida]

solo un pekeño inciso.

el moonwalker esta "inspirado" en Marcel Marceau y su famoso "caminar contra el viento" del ke MJ es un gran admirador asi como de Bob Fosse.

Y lo ke dice Ric, es imposible negar la influencia de este personaje interpretado por bob fosse en el principito en MJ. La forma de andar, los movimientos de baile, incluso la forma de vestir recuerda lijeramente.

[Ric1005]

señores tienen que ver y estudiar el video con toda calma ,es indudable el 80 por ciento de todos los paso de michael jackson estan en este extraordinario coreografo,desde la caminata lunal, claro hoy mas refinada hasta el movimiento con el cuello. No cabe dudas el es parte de su inspiracion.

[roco18lp]

oao

[artehaga]

Con respecto a la cancion, cualquiera que se abailarin le pones de fondo la cancion y algo hay parecido seguro, y si viste de negro y blanco más aun, Michael se inspiró en muchos, pero no en esa peli xD. aunque su hijo se llame Prince .. y la peli el principito, y sea rubio tenido como el de la peli ..

[georgekaplan]

Sorprendente, la influencia es innegable, esto demuestra que los artistas beben y son influidos por artistas de anteriores generaciones, tal y como ahora Michael Jackson es la inspiración para innumerables artistas pop.

[artehaga]

Me parece que eres alguien si criterio amigo mio, es evidente que el parecido es increible, pero quitale el Billie Jean y ponle una de Elton Jhon por ejemplo, nada tendrá que ver, Michael no se inspiró en este, y si algun coreógrafo le proporcionara estilos o no a Michael jackson, seguro que no inspirado en el tipo este.

[georgekaplan]

Me parece perfecto que no coincidas con mi opinión, pero no por ello tienes que decir que soy "alguien sin criterio". Para mí el número de Bob Fosse ha influido en el número de Billie Jean de Michael Jackson, es tan evidente que sería ridículo negarlo. Y no hay ningún problema en reconocerlo, esto no le quita méritos a MJ en absoluto. Una cosa es "inspirarse en" o otra muy distinta es copiar.

[56995608]

que tonto