@intuitiveteacher Thank you for posting this fascinating series! Many mysteries to ponder & reminds me of this..."There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
to believe that each life born from our mother's utmost love doesn't have reason is ludicrous. we are all connected we have a reason we are all beautiful and we will all meet again when our spirits have evolved. We suffer now for the knowledge we acquire after this life. Life doesn't end but it changes
The "Afterlife" is an oxymoron. How can there be life after life? When your brain dies you don't exist anymore. Sorry, no magical fun park to go to, that's it. I believe I'll exist again, though .... you know why, because I existed once .... who's to say that I won't exist again in some other life form??
but i have tasted what the void feels like its an obsession to understand death....i understand exactly what it is....i just dont want to be in it....we all go to the void, understanding it is depressing, even the taste and constant obsession....i am allmost at a point where it will draw me into wanting to see the void(like VAn Gogh)....and thats a path i dont want to take on...yet
But make no mistake The VOID is what awaits us, it is the ultimate truth and pain killer
to make what i am saying more valid...it is easy to try seeing the void each time you sleep....i admit i have not captured it willingly each time i sleep....trying to capture and comprehend the VOID is pointless, it is impossible to comprehend the void....or eternity, same thing...when you sleep, you get a taste of what eternity feels like...however only at the points your not dreaming...that is what the VOID is...and what Death is....just doesnt last long enough for me to be able to grasp it
@GODLESS24 Thanks for sharing YOUR truth. Name calling will not encourage people to listen to your point of view. But I suspect that's not what you want, I suspect you just want a reason to bully and namecall and your brand of pseudo "skepticsm" is just a thin viel of an excuse to bully people.
@IntuitiveTeacher your intentions are good...but we all go to the VOID...i am the prophet of the true nature of life after death...the ultimate truth is the Void...My proof of this, should be obvious in testing....how far back can you personally remember hmm? the god of the void is what limits this....it is not a god....the void is the ultimate truth...before and after life...i cant remember being pulled out of my mothers vagina, nor 1 year after that, that is the VOID
@GODLESS24 What an arrogant way of approaching the subject. Not only you claim to hold the "absolute truth" on the oldest and most fundamental question of humankind but you insult all those who have different views and perhaps experiences. Is that a "scientific" way of approaching things?
Well, yes it does make it true if my father communicates with me from the other side. I mean what is truth for me? It is certainly not some fucking materialist asshole telling me that I am deluded How the fuck does he know I don't communicate with my father? He can't even prove his theory that when a person dies it is one long dirt nap.
@mujaku You're absolutely smack-on. Each of us has our individual experiences, and that is Truth. But for someone to whom this apparently hasn't happened, it makes me wonder why it seems so important to him -- that he takes such a stand against it. My only guess is that he's coming from a place of fear. Otherwise, it would be, "Who cares?" or "Yes, there's something to it."
@666katch ...If you dont believe then it wont come to you. So many people are too involved with their egos that they cant see anything else. We have been given powers that if not honed they just slip away. Intuition, preminition, dejavu, feeling the presents of evil (those little hairs that stand up on the back of your neck) and the most powerful power of all LOVE. Love is so simple yet so many people have none! Its sad.
...consciousness but is not the same. You are you're consciousness which is that what observes your thoughts go by in your head. The only thing that will die with death is your ego, but your consciousness, that unique software program running on the energy-information computer which is the universe, that consciousness will not fade away. Consciousness is something very normal and mundane actually, contrary to what science and religion believe.
We live in a matrix of energy and information that we are currently experiencing as our present reality. After death our energy and information flow back into the larger ocean of energy and information. Consciousness is what you get when you combine energy and information and give them a little stir, which is what the Big Bang is. Consciousness is everywhere in varying degrees of complexity and concentration and please know that consciousness is more than just thought. Thought arises within...
I had something happen where i went to bed and then was stood up out of my bed and saw myself in bed asleep and was able to see very clear in the dark, i dunno what it was but it did happen 31 yrs ago.
@britelite2657 Its call obe or astral projection, i have to nearly every time, you can train yrslf so you can also, you will be amazed by the things you will be able to do :)
@MultiAsslover1: I think you're mistaken there, the idea of an afterlife can be seen in pretty much all cultures, and can be found in both religious and non-religious people. I myself do not belong to an organized religion. While most religions do have an afterlife, it doesn't mean the idea came from religion.
@MultiAsslover1 ::: Too many people with NDEs, too many psychics contacting the 'dead', too many ghosts floating around, so many seances conducted where the 'dead' contact the living, for there not to be an afterlife. People write books there; see "Life in the World Unseen" (free download from the internet). There is no religion in the afterlife. And religion has nothing to do with your status in the afterlife.
@Morgue27 im sorry to hear about your loss. I too lost my grandmother sept 09 and I was raised by her much as my mom and my grandpa also. I miss her daily
my grandmother died this weekend...she had a massive stroke friday morning and passed away saturday night...its rough, she was like a mother to me, she raised me since i was 5 years old and was ALWAYS there
when i got the news that she had died, i was sitting on the top of the stairs outside her room, as soon as i hung up the phone i started crying HARD...about 4 or 5 seconds into it, the bathroom light directly below me flipped on by itself
@Budd703 Or, what if there's nothing after this? and this is all it ever was? that's my only point. no one has proof. the afterlife, in all the different versions that human civilizations have come up with, all the gods, all the theories are just that. theories. till we have concrete proof, I'm gonna live life like this is the only one we will ever have. and knowing that could be a possibility, actually makes me wanna try my best, and be the best person I can be to others.
@Budd703 I can see your point of view, but have a hard time thinking that spirits exist to gain knowledge. if there is a spirit world beyond this, and we are spirits (which we don't have evidence of any existence - it's a man made construct based on myth and stories - any near death experience can be explained through science), if we are really spirits bouncing from world to world, life to life, that makes each life less meaningful to me. cause you don't remember being an alien do you?
fear is ceritnaly not useless., it has its purpose like every emotion, and of course, fearing death is natural, but only if you have never studied it,
My opinion is that when you die, there is nothing afterwards... You just stop existing that's it... I don't believe there is a soul inside our bodies... so there is nothing that could live in afterlife... I think people should fear death because it's the end...
@sssummmak Although I respect your opinion, I'd like to point out a major flaw in your reasoning. You think that after death, there is nothing. An empty void of eternal blackness. But that's meaningless viewpoint. There can be no void, simply because to define a void, you need "something" in which to compare it. You cannot have a void unto itself, just like you cannot have darkness without light or vice versa. "Nothing" cannot exist, being "nothing" is a state of existence. It's inescapable.
@Jdiggy77 Ok now :) unfortunately my english is not that good so I'm not able to discuss this matter that good on philosophic level but I'll try anyway... I don't actually think there is some eternal void of blackness, when you cease to exist there is no way how you'd be able to percieve the "nothingness", when I said there is nothing in afterlife I didn't ment there is state of "nothingness" I ment that, I don't believe there is any state of existance afterwards
@sssummmak when you cease to exist you are just no longer existing, it's a same state before your birth - you just don't exist... that's what come after death in my opinion... but who knows... :)
@sssummmak I see. So you don't believe in the soul/spirit. Well, unfortunately, that pretty much ends our discussion. Your non-belief in the soul makes it impossible to discuss this matter any further.
I hope one day you change your mind. Just try to keep an open mind, and remember that ancient cultures who believed in the spirit world were a lot more advanced than we give them credit nowdays.
@Jdiggy77 ::: You are right about ancient cultures. 12500 years ago the Egyptians built the pyramid. Astronomy/astrology has always been a strong point in ancient cultures.
@sssummmak: How do you know you didn't have experience before you were born? Absence of memory doesn't prove absence of experience. For example, just because you don't remember your dreams, does not prove that you had no experience through the night. You may have had experience and simply don't remember it. Likewise, in the absence of memory what happened before you were born is a black-box, it can't be known.
@AnduinX I didnt say I know, I said I don't BELIEVE in afterlife, I'm an orthodox atheist so I just dont believe in this, although I respect other opinions believes and religions.. but back to the matter I don't believe that human is made of physical shell (body) and some sort of spirit/soul, and if I don't believe in this I can't even believe that there was something before I was born, because I didn't exist
@sssummmak I see human like a living computer, I'll explain, computer does not have soul it is just this physical shell in which runs some software because there is hardwere, when you destroy hardware, software cease to exist with hardware, hope you get what I mean my english really isn't that good :-/
@sssummmak: My own personal view is summed up well by Cyril Burt: "“The brain is not an organ that generates consciousness, but rather an instrument evolved to transmit and limit the processes of consciousness and of conscious attention so as to restrict them to those aspects of the material environment which at any moment are crucial for the terrestrial success of the individual”"
This was an HBO Special that is absolutely worth watching TO THE END. If you do nothing else, AT LEAST watch parts 8 and 9. It brought me to tears and gave me extreme hope and relief!!
I had no "need to believe in a afterlife or God, in fact rejected such thoughts but one afternoon I had a profoundly spiritual transforming event for no reason I can explain meeting a bright light like a sun which was intelligent, it had love for me and although I saw no face I felt its smiling face peering deeply into my soul. I came to understand that this light was the center of all of us, the collective soul of all sentient beings as myself and all others in One. Namaste
I had no "need to believe in a afterlife or God, in fact rejected such thoughts but one afternoon I had a profoundly spiritual transforming event for no reason I can explain meeting a bright light like a sun which was intelligent, it had love for me and although I saw no face I felt its smiling face peering deeply into my soul. I came to understand that this light was the center of all of us, the collective soul of all sentient beings as myself and all others in One.
I found this statement by Dr. Radin to be one of the most logical, simple, well put forward ideas to suppose that there is some higher or recycled consciousness. From this platform one needs no supernatural phenomenon it is all natural.
In the future when they've proved spirits and after life they'll have after life investigators whom people will hire to find out what bodies there loved one's are now in and they'll be able to find out whom they previously were :)
I'd like to ask these questions to hear people's views:
Do you remember existing before this life? If not, then why do you believe you'll remember this life and exist as you after you die?
Also, if you believe in a soul, as being your true being, and it is eternal, when was that created? At the time of your birth or before? If you think it was before, as a spirit in Heaven, why would God need you to become a Human for less than 100 years, just to become a spirit again?
@natho369 sperm is only half of a Human, you need the egg to combine. and that's my point. when is the "soul" created? at conception? Or was your Soul around before, and just got shot into your Human body? I wonder if there is such a thing as a soul, and if so, why did it manifest into the person you are now at this time? also, there is no concrete evidence of ghosts. if so, I'd like to see. most are stories told by people, and any video footage you present could easily be mimicked.
@MorbidAngel2011 I look forward to it. But, what about people that have lived and died without ever seeing one. my 85 yr old grandfather hasn't seen one yet.
@BrendanWhelan not everyone sees a ghost in thier life time but the majority do and never realize it. the spirit world is real whether people believe in it or not. theres alot more to the afterlife than our governments and the world religions are willing to admit.
As for those people who don't force their beliefs on others and genuinely are good people despite their superstitions, I still believe that there is more peace and joy to be found in reality. I think of all of the years I spent believing in nonsense and I feel very cheated. Maybe I'm weird that way and others are not likely to have the same experience, but this experience is all I have. I was made happier, fuller, and more at peace by embracing natural reality. I hope that others can as well.
@jklarson66 If that system works for you, great. I didn´t know you were cheated by religion, sorry. However, i also think that atheist arguments for alleviating purposelessness and fear of death aren´t enough for me, and that´s why i felt i had to answer your assertion.Besides, i´m also a bit tired of some excessive generalizations i´ve heard by some people about religion, and although i´m not a believer, when facing some hard questions, i can (to a degree) understand why they believe.
"as long as they don´t force you into them or don´t hurt anyone"? You say that as though they don't try to force their beliefs on others and hurt people. I would be perfectly content to shut up if that were the case but it's not. As long as superstitious idiots regularly do whatever they can to make life miserable for others, they deserve to be mocked and ridiculed for it. There's no such thing as a harmless delusion.
@jklarson66 I say that because i know, personally, people with religious beliefs that haven´t done whatever they could to make life miserable for anyone. Maybe they´re an exception, but i think there are more out there. It seems to me that your vision is a bit extreme. However, i agree with you in one point: there are way too many people trying to force beliefs,scamming, and hurting others in the name of their beliefs. I see their actions as horrendous and i don´t respect them at all.
i WISH and wish and wish for an afterlife i used to be christian now im just a believer in something out there. and this helps me alot to take that worry away. my friend is the most honnest person i know he encounters old relatives every few months..we dont need evidence in my short life ive already learned that trust and belief can be as great as evidence
if there is eternal nothingness before & after life as scientific opinions suppose then how can an eternal nothingness before life even end to give rise to life in the 1st place? and then there is only one answer it cant be eternal hence there must of been something before the nothing before our life hence there is only one possibility life?
if you still believe there is no life after death, just go and sleep at a cemmentery by yourself for a week, and then come back in here and post your comments, maybe you would change your mind.
we call death when the body is no longer able to carry life, life is not the body, but the energy inside the body, when all the information is gone, then your body is dead, what happen to you? since you are not a body and you truly are energy, the information, brain itself is not you, because brain stores energy as information. what happens to it when it dyes? could be that there is another type of energy the same that built your body, the one that tells the cell how to create it. just my opinio
i once stood by my bed and i saw me in bed asleep like two of me but i was the concious one outside my sleeping body i could see clear in the dark room very weird
"Intuitive Teacher"... and other skeptics ... take a look at the book "The Scole Experiment: Scientific Evidence for Life After Death." Your position is quaint and 19th century empirical, I suggest moving forward into the 21st century. You will be amazed.
When I was nine, I had a thought of my grandmother dying and so did my mother. Shortly after the thought, she died. It wasn't ESP. It was just because she was having heart problems and she had a serious heart attack.
Factor in all the instances when people have had purported experiences with people post-mortem, but the people were still alive? It is true that people live on in our hearts and minds, but the dead do not exist independently of our minds.
The false ESP reporting does not prove that ESP doesn't exist, but it does demonstrate that these reports don't provide much real evidence of ESP by themselves. They provide about as much evidence of ESP as the Macy's day parade provides evidence of Santa Claus.
My belief is the soul exists outside of the body and isn't motivated to animate a body, but that it's the other way around. You're entitled to your opinion. So am I. My personal opinion is that some people are such fundamentalists that they have difficulty believing what they can't see, touch or feel with their own senses or need some "authority" to tell them what to believe. Have several nice days :)
y can think i am crazy i am 16 years old and i am dreaming the future and now i am looking for answers why i do this. Last week i saved myself from a embarrassment in school. I dreamed somone i asking me if i smoke of cours i said yes(i never smoked) he was asking me what brand and than i got nervos and said Lucky strike on my way home we both and he bought me lucky strike......and he noticed i didnt smoked the whole day......that was my dream the next day i was asked if i smoke i said no
@IntuitiveTeacher he smoked lucky strike too and he bought at the same automat we went throw in my dream same action different result i didnt get class victim cause of my dream
So if there is an afterlife how do you think feel etc. with your brain rotting with your body. My mom thinks your soul can do that, but ive never seen a person get a bad head injury and starty operating on soul power. My personal opinion is people will do intellectual backflips to avoid the fact that one day its all gonna end.
@unshutoptic1 that happened to me too! except with my grandma and a friend that just passed. and i saw my grandfather when i was 3 years old apparently. do you believe that that was really your father? i did believe 100% in all that as well as God, but I've just been having doubts lately. but i think i still believe in God and the afterlife...lol wow sorry that was long. just curious tho :)
@jb21592 . I do. But I know what you mean because faith can be fleeting. There's been times where I questioned whether I was psycotic or not...LOL...But I know I'm not crazy. So then the only other option is to say it was a vivid dream. Well I've been dreaming all of my life and I can tell when a dream is not quite a ''dream''
The concept of God is something I don't think any human can really comprehend. So many people say there's no scientific proof. Well for me, existence is proof enough.
according to the vedic masters apart from the grossest layer (anna maya kosha) of a human being that we see daily in the mirror there are 4 more layers to us. the evidence of this fact are 'clairvoyants' -the people who can see the second sheath of a human- the pranamaya kosha- in the form of colors. and also there are 7 dimensions of existence, it is simply a question of which frequency your senses are able to perceive.
We should't contrast existence with non-existence,the unconscious is so to say the part of experience of which is doing consciousness...the real you,thats the you in you is the same as the you in me..its perfectly indestructible..do you see that YOU are already are that..
@NAP0LE0NDYNAM1TE For the same reason I don't skip dinner and go right to the dessert. Just because it exists, doesn't mean that the current course sucks.
@IntuitiveTeacher I don't eat desserts, they are of little or no nutritional value. A dessert can be proven to exist, I sincerely hope there is an afterlife and a god, but I'm sure if god is the nice guy that everyone says he is then he'll forgive my current scepticism which may or may not dissapear when I die. I'm sure people will have been forgiven for worse!
In the meantime I'll enjoy my real life. take care.
@NAP0LE0NDYNAM1TE I enjoy all aspects of life I including appetizer to dessert. I know you get my metaphor. God or not is a whole discussion separate from the after life. I don't have to believe in a god to believe in the after life. Take care :)
@IntuitiveTeacher agreed. sorry, I always make associations with religion when it comes to the afterlife, probably due to some mild exposure to Jesus and his chums it as a child at school. But until we have real proof I can't rationally believe in an afterlife and don't take any comfort from the prospect of eternal life after death. I guess we'll all find out someday, but until then I don't see the sense in worrying about it. Fear of death is good for your health! lol.
@Kawagi1 we'll never know for sure. don't worry about it. you won't be a bad person if to dissagree with religion -if god is as nice as people say he is then he'll forgive our scepticism.
@NAP0LE0NDYNAM1TE That is the way. Thank you for contribution. We are obliged to be ourselves, otherwise we would not be alive (in this sense or another).
@NAP0LE0NDYNAM1TE Just because there IS an afterlife it does not mean you want to terminate your life.. there is a reason you are here.. you can say im wrong now but when you die you will see.. :) I find it funny that skeptics will put so much energy in saying there is no afterlife but will not take the step to dispove
I can barely hear this video, sadly, so i can't give it a thumbs up rating, but I hereby voice my support that someone has offered the video and others like it.
I was a rational disbeliever. I thought since no one can pick up another side with the naked eye (on demand/ or prove the can) or with a man-made scientific instrument, then it must not exist. I was sure of it.
Now I see how closed minded and simple that assured disbelief was. I was not basing my conclusion on reason.
It´s possible there is one, but improbable. My main objection is: if there is a soul, why the mind is affected when the brain is affected. If we have a soul, why doesn´t it keep our mind intact throughout our lives, brain damage and illness notwithstanding? And how we keep our memories after death if we lose them in life because of an illness, by example?
@Scaadaasc Think of Cartesian dualism, "the ghost in the machine". If there is a soul, but it uses the brain to control the body here on the physical plane, if it needs all that physical stuff as a "machine" to operate within the physical plane. then when the "machine" is damaged (the brain or the body) the soul is limited with what it can do with the damaged machine. I think of it that way.
It does require speculation about other dimensions where the soul might operate more freely.
@HowDareThey1970 That hypothesis would mean also than when the "machine" dies, soul cannot interact at all with the physical world, isn´t it?
It´s an interesting hypothesis. Sadly, it cannot be verified by any mean i know of, and it would also posit problems abot the nature and origin of the soul, and the question of why only humans have it, so it remains in the realm of belief. However, it can give a lot of hope. Just by curiosity, have you had some experience connected with it?
@Scaadaasc Your questions are good. And they have answers. But knowledge usually begins with questions. It is as HowDareThey1970 said: the body is a vehicle for the soul. An instrument. A machine the soul uses to express and experience itself in the physical world. If a car is damaged or broken it doesn't matter who is behind the wheel, the car won't work properly.
@Scaadaasc When the soul incarnates it limits itself to the physical body, so that whatever damage is suffered by the physical body is thusly experienced by the mind and consciousness. Once free of the physical body any limitation or obstruction ceases to be an issue.
Regarding memories, they are 'stored' not only in the physical body but also in the soul itself, so after death the soul carries with it every impression from that life.
@endofscene Thanks for your answers. Your hypothesis is interesting and answers some of my questions. However, and i don´t mean to be offensive, i don´t know of any concrete evidence of it, and, on the other side, the evidences i do know of point to oblivion after death. I´ve read about testimonies of people interacting with spirits and the like, but they are inconclusive or, directly, false. If you have a sure way to verify the soul, could you please tell me?
@Scaadaasc You aren't being offensive. The only sure way to verify the soul (or anything for that matter) is in your own direct experience. Short of this you can only speculate. You will probably have to wait until death before you can know 'for sure'. However, if you were truly interested in such things then there are plenty of books on the subject and other sources of information as well.
@Scaadaasc Remember, if a scientist has a theory he doesn't just sit on his arse and wait for Nature to give him evidence. He must do research and create experiments to test for results to give him evidence. So, if you are truly interested in the subject of life after death then you will dedicate earnest energy and real time to it. Otherwise, you will just have to wait and see for yourself when your time comes. Peace.
@endofscene I thought that, since you seems to be so sure about it´s existence, you knew of a way to directly experience it. But, anyways, you are right, i´ll have to check the various sources and books, and do some research of my own.
@Scaadaasc life is related to time, there were so many before you asking the same question and now they are gone from this world, the only thing I can tell you and have no proof for it, is that there is an energy that created all of us, one that tells cells how to build bodies and create intelligent beings such as yourself, energy that is everywhere you look, it tells the space to be space, time to be time and how to behave, it's a base universe energy since nothing is chaos and has a guide.
@1800levso It´s a belief i´ve heard before. Sadly, i don´t believe in it, so i can´t find hope in it. Even if such cosmic regulator energy existed, that wouldn´t be a guarantee of persistence after death. Thanks for your opinion, however.
when you die you dream. there is a gland in the center everyone's brain that pumps out fumes of DMT. and that is how you dream. rite before you die your brain pumps huge amount of DMT.
@PassingStorms How do you know? Have you died and some how came back? You don't know, nobody knows. Scientist don't know, priests don't even know. the only ones that know are the ones that are dead. so really there is no facts.
@PassingStorms How do you know? Have you died and some how came back? You don't know, nobody knows. Scientist don't know, priests don't even know. the only ones that know are the ones that are dead. so really there is no facts.
there is after life and that is a fact but there is real proof that there is ghosts some ppl choose to not belive in it and get on with there life but belive it or not they are round u
@mixcaramel I'm inclined to believe in the supernatural, however I wonder what you have seen or experienced that makes you think it is an established fact? In my limited experience, encounters with what you think is the supernatural tend to be so ambiguous and unclear, you're still left wondering.
@HowDareThey1970 That is because you don't dedicate much time or energy to such things. If a scientist wants to make real progress in a certain direction then he must really apply himself. Newton and Einstein were not just casual philosophers or part time theorists. Their understanding of the physical world was their life and livelihood. It was their raison d'etre.
@HowDareThey1970 Because of their efforts we now have more knowledge about the world. There are likewise many advanced souls and psychic people who have dedicated their life to the discovery and dissemination of spiritual truth. The knowledge they have shared is every bit as real and useful as that of Newton and other scientists.
@HowDareThey1970 Yet you have never heard of these people because you haven't done the research. Now, if you were to read such writings you may still not know for sure, but then you don't really know for sure if Einstein's theories are correct. You just take other peoples' word for it. And since you live in a scientific materialist society, you are more likely to believe in 'science' than in spirituality.
@PassingStorms According to Princeton, a fact is, "a concept whose truth can be proved; ". Your statement falls short of proof, and therefore is not a "fact". The lack of an afterlife has not been proven or dis-proven.
@IntuitiveTeacher Yes, but you see its may be in mathematics that 'there will always be something that you know is to be true, but it cannot be proven'...so, it is more possible that it is there not to be proven, but is a fact of truth. I can't quite remeber which mathematician came up with this but remember this from Dangerous Knowledge BBC Documentary
if the space goes on forever as shown by M-theory, then everything possible must happen including my existence and thus after I am no longer alive this fact should remain, that I exist because I must thus we conclude we must exist after life.
A person's soul as manifested in a physical body is similar to the operating system program of a computer. You cannot touch, see, hear, taste, or smell the program itself. Yet you are aware of it's presence when manifested within a computer. The computer is dead with an operating system program. In a similar manner, the soul does not possess qualities which can be measured by physical instruments or sensed by your physical senses. Your physical could not exist without a soul.
if it was true our loved ones would come back let us know, its as simple as that .. dont need mediums and the bullshit. if there is no after life then what is the point of life.....
@19smokey19 That is exactly what this video is about. It shows that in many many cases peoples' loved ones do come back to let them know. Most people just don't talk about it.
The truth is, we do not yet know what the relationship between consciousness and matter actually is. It is an assumption to think that cosciousness is reducible to only to the workings of the brain. (Sam Harris, End of faith, Paperback, Pg. 235)
The strangeness of quantum theory is no argument for an afterlife. Consciousness is not "energy" as this video puts it. There is no consciusness particle. Consciousness is a process. When the matter and energy which once carried out consciousness takes on a different form then this process no longer taking place. The same electricity that is translated into a game of tetris on my computer cannot carry out that game of tetris if it goes through my ceiling fan.
@jklarson66, your analogy is materialism and has been destroyed by contemporary philosophers and neuro-scientists. There is literally tons of documentation of afterlife experiences today and in history.. But people like you and other teenagers never read a damn thing. Skeptcs are all about control and want to keep people in the non-thinking and non-exlporatory mode.
@CultExposer I really don't mean to sound silly here but isn't even the idea of a documented afterlife experience impossible? If someone is able to give an account of an experience then they are alive and have not yet experienced what may or may not be in the afterlife. What specific studies in neurology are you talking about?
@jklarson66 Near Death Experiences are actually experiences had by people who have technically died for some period of earth time and have been subsequently revived. This can and does happen.
Other evidence comes from people who have crossed over and not returned, and who then communicate back through mediums or directly to certain individuals. There is much literature on such phenomena.
@endofscene We know what portions of the brain are used to produce and interpret language. If these areas are damaged then communication is lost. Despite this you somehow claim that once these parts of the brain are dead entirely the person is magically able to speak and communicate in the form of some ethereal phantom. If a person continues to think and experience after the brain is dead, what exactly is the brain for? Every medium who has ever been put to the test has been proved a fraud.
@jklarson66 This is because consciousness and mind (intelligence) are not limited to the brain. The soul does not require a physical body to think, feel, speak, perceive and act. It simply *uses* a physical body to do these things on the physical level. The brain is an organ inside the skull. It is a part of the physical body. The physical body is used by the soul to express and experience itself at this level of consciousness.
@jklarson66 You cannot say that every psychic medium who has been scientifically tested has been proven as a fraud for you don't know every medium who has ever existed nor the results of every test. Look on youtube for some very interesting documentaries on such mediums and tests. Besides, this video here that you are commenting on gives one example of an experiment involving mediums and it seemed to go pretty well.
@jklarson66 maybe because brain is part of our body, just like the eyes, if you are blind, you are blind, you won't be able to see, if your brain is dead but you still alive, you still alive, you won't be able to think or move or do anything, all sense are gone. but you still be alive, after the body and the brain is dead, the life energy is released from the body, then you are officially in other world, remember that you are not your brain, you are energy in your brain and body,
@1800levso Exactly what good is that energy if has no innate senses of its own and cannot carry out conscious thought without a brain? Whoopti doo! I'm energy!. A rock is made out of the exact same energy. I hardly see how this is an argument for the existence of a soul. A video game is energy but we don't imagine that energy magically enters some other realm when the xbox gets shut off. It just stops being a video game just like our energy stops being a person once we die.
@1800levso All of this spiritual mumbo jumbo may really sound like it doesn't hurt anybody and it gives people hope but it does hurt people. Millions get scammed every year not only by organized religion but by new age snake oil medicines, lotions, and potions that don't do anything. It makes people stupid and blinds them to the reality of this universe which is quite beautiful on it's own without all of the hocus pocus mythology. It's 2011, can't we all act like grownups now?
@jklarson66 I agree, scammers and organized religion should dissappear, because of the damage they cause. However, the need for a meaning of life and for a life after death are still there, and the beauty of the universe doesn´t seem to fulfill these needs for the majority of people. If you supress spirituality, how do you fulfill those needs? Specially since our death and the death of humanity will render all our efforts pointless.
And, by the way, a believer isn´t necessarily inmature.
@Scaadaasc If the beauty of reality isn't enough for most people then they're not paying attention. Beauty doesn't come from magic. The principles of logic and mathematics are transcendent and eternal without any hocus pocus mythology. The recognition of a living consciousness in another inspires love and compassion whether there is life after this one or not. Mortality makes life infinitely precious while so many waste it under the delusion that a new and magical world is on the way.
@jklarson66 I disagree. It´s not a matter of paying attention, it´s a matter of not being enough to compensate.I don´t know if eternal life would give meaning, but i do know that mortality takes it away, as death erases forever your identity, memories and experiences, and makes them meaningless. And, since that is the eventual fate of all of humanity and its works, what matters in what you spend your life? When you are aware of that fact, it´s no strange that many people clings to that hope.
@Scaadaasc People don't need "spirituality". People need love, beauty, truth, food, water, and maybe a decent foot rub from time to time. The only reason people think they need superstitious beliefs is because salesmen, preachers, politicians, and out of work child actors have pounded the idea into our skulls since we were in huggies. It's a con job. It's a scam. Reality may not offer eternal life, but it does offer freedom, love, and more beauty than any superstitionist could possibly imagine.
@jklarson66 I disagree again. The need of eternal life stems from our instinct to survive at all costs, coupled with the conscience of our own mortality. That need, like many others, has been exploited and perverted, but it´s still there. And, regarding purpose, imagine the feeling of having done something absolutely for naught, not even personal satisfaction. Now, apply that to your entire life, coupled with the inevitable end of the results of all your work and experiences. How do you feel?
@Scaadaasc Are you serious? You really think that if you can't live forever then you wouldn't want to live at all? How childish is that? You don't care enough about your friends and family to want to live to make their lives better? This is exactly the type of thinking people need to move past. I live every day fully expecting nothing other than complete annihiliation and I'm happier than I ever was believing in fairy tales. There are millions of us and all living perfectly happy lives.
@jklarson66 Yes, i´m serious. And no, that´s not childish at all. To me, it´s just a logical consequence of being conscious of inevitable annihilation in the long run of all of us, our efforts and all proofs that we did exist once. These are the philosophical consequences of atheism, and you can´t move past them, you can just ignore them. They don´t prevent me from being happy and caring about people,they make me understand believers and their fairy tales a bit more.
@Scaadaasc Atheists don't lack the same kind of emotional needs as other people. We just realized that these needs are met much easier when you let go of egotistical fantasies and grand delusions of immortality. Enjoy life for what it is. You lucked into this life through absolutely no fault of your own. Hell, I didn't exist for billions of years before I was born and it never bothered me in the slightest. Every moment you get is far more than you ever could have expected. Enjoy it.
@jklarson66 No, it´s just easier for people like you. For other people, existence isn´t so lucky. And if these beliefs helps them to cope with hardness of existence, as long as they don´t force you into them or don´t hurt anyone(including themselves) with them or because of them and makes them happy, what does it matter ? When you don´t exist, you don´t care about the consequences of existence, but when you exist, you DO, so Mark Twain´s quote is really quite useless.
@Scaadaasc Sorry, the last comment should have been posted as a reply. As for Twain's quote, the point is that once you're dead you won't be around to care about it. It's not as though you'll spend eternity sitting in quiet darkness. That would be hell. You just won't be around at all. What you did in this life will continue to affect those you've known long after you're gone. Why be depressed. To say that any mark left is meaningless if not infinite is just bizarre.
@intuitiveteacher Thank you for posting this fascinating series! Many mysteries to ponder & reminds me of this..."There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
Bobbileat 4 days ago
to believe that each life born from our mother's utmost love doesn't have reason is ludicrous. we are all connected we have a reason we are all beautiful and we will all meet again when our spirits have evolved. We suffer now for the knowledge we acquire after this life. Life doesn't end but it changes
tatisababyangel 3 weeks ago
The "Afterlife" is an oxymoron. How can there be life after life? When your brain dies you don't exist anymore. Sorry, no magical fun park to go to, that's it. I believe I'll exist again, though .... you know why, because I existed once .... who's to say that I won't exist again in some other life form??
keto6789 3 weeks ago
but i have tasted what the void feels like its an obsession to understand death....i understand exactly what it is....i just dont want to be in it....we all go to the void, understanding it is depressing, even the taste and constant obsession....i am allmost at a point where it will draw me into wanting to see the void(like VAn Gogh)....and thats a path i dont want to take on...yet
But make no mistake The VOID is what awaits us, it is the ultimate truth and pain killer
gorlist187 1 month ago
to make what i am saying more valid...it is easy to try seeing the void each time you sleep....i admit i have not captured it willingly each time i sleep....trying to capture and comprehend the VOID is pointless, it is impossible to comprehend the void....or eternity, same thing...when you sleep, you get a taste of what eternity feels like...however only at the points your not dreaming...that is what the VOID is...and what Death is....just doesnt last long enough for me to be able to grasp it
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GODLESS24 1 month ago
@GODLESS24 Thanks for sharing YOUR truth. Name calling will not encourage people to listen to your point of view. But I suspect that's not what you want, I suspect you just want a reason to bully and namecall and your brand of pseudo "skepticsm" is just a thin viel of an excuse to bully people.
IntuitiveTeacher 1 month ago
@IntuitiveTeacher your intentions are good...but we all go to the VOID...i am the prophet of the true nature of life after death...the ultimate truth is the Void...My proof of this, should be obvious in testing....how far back can you personally remember hmm? the god of the void is what limits this....it is not a god....the void is the ultimate truth...before and after life...i cant remember being pulled out of my mothers vagina, nor 1 year after that, that is the VOID
gorlist187 1 month ago
@IntuitiveTeacher It is amusing how many individuals are quick to use ad hominem attacks when there is no evidence to support their point of view.
gemathena 3 weeks ago
@GODLESS24 What an arrogant way of approaching the subject. Not only you claim to hold the "absolute truth" on the oldest and most fundamental question of humankind but you insult all those who have different views and perhaps experiences. Is that a "scientific" way of approaching things?
Aliyout1234 3 weeks ago
@GODLESS24 Well, thats' us told, then. Thank you for sharing your wisdom, oh wise one.
jimgselder 3 weeks ago
1:02 - She's CUTE!
WildManChrisVEVO 1 month ago
Well, yes it does make it true if my father communicates with me from the other side. I mean what is truth for me? It is certainly not some fucking materialist asshole telling me that I am deluded How the fuck does he know I don't communicate with my father? He can't even prove his theory that when a person dies it is one long dirt nap.
mujaku 2 months ago
@mujaku You're absolutely smack-on. Each of us has our individual experiences, and that is Truth. But for someone to whom this apparently hasn't happened, it makes me wonder why it seems so important to him -- that he takes such a stand against it. My only guess is that he's coming from a place of fear. Otherwise, it would be, "Who cares?" or "Yes, there's something to it."
YellowMangerCalling 2 months ago
@666katch ...If you dont believe then it wont come to you. So many people are too involved with their egos that they cant see anything else. We have been given powers that if not honed they just slip away. Intuition, preminition, dejavu, feeling the presents of evil (those little hairs that stand up on the back of your neck) and the most powerful power of all LOVE. Love is so simple yet so many people have none! Its sad.
mlburton45 2 months ago
Thanks for the video! Was awesome, interesting and profoundly intuitive...
qwacs 3 months ago
Holy wow, it's Kip Dynamite!
Cubehead666 4 months ago
...consciousness but is not the same. You are you're consciousness which is that what observes your thoughts go by in your head. The only thing that will die with death is your ego, but your consciousness, that unique software program running on the energy-information computer which is the universe, that consciousness will not fade away. Consciousness is something very normal and mundane actually, contrary to what science and religion believe.
NLPCPNL 4 months ago
We live in a matrix of energy and information that we are currently experiencing as our present reality. After death our energy and information flow back into the larger ocean of energy and information. Consciousness is what you get when you combine energy and information and give them a little stir, which is what the Big Bang is. Consciousness is everywhere in varying degrees of complexity and concentration and please know that consciousness is more than just thought. Thought arises within...
NLPCPNL 4 months ago
I had something happen where i went to bed and then was stood up out of my bed and saw myself in bed asleep and was able to see very clear in the dark, i dunno what it was but it did happen 31 yrs ago.
britelite2657 5 months ago
@britelite2657 Its call obe or astral projection, i have to nearly every time, you can train yrslf so you can also, you will be amazed by the things you will be able to do :)
toonyloons2006 3 months ago
read Lobsang Rampa and Edgar Cayce books free online ...
Dali777 5 months ago
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jeanpierrel 6 months ago
@MultiAsslover1: I think you're mistaken there, the idea of an afterlife can be seen in pretty much all cultures, and can be found in both religious and non-religious people. I myself do not belong to an organized religion. While most religions do have an afterlife, it doesn't mean the idea came from religion.
AnduinX 6 months ago
@MultiAsslover1 ::: Too many people with NDEs, too many psychics contacting the 'dead', too many ghosts floating around, so many seances conducted where the 'dead' contact the living, for there not to be an afterlife. People write books there; see "Life in the World Unseen" (free download from the internet). There is no religion in the afterlife. And religion has nothing to do with your status in the afterlife.
k0smon 6 months ago
@Morgue27 im sorry to hear about your loss. I too lost my grandmother sept 09 and I was raised by her much as my mom and my grandpa also. I miss her daily
kamdawg00 7 months ago
my grandmother died this weekend...she had a massive stroke friday morning and passed away saturday night...its rough, she was like a mother to me, she raised me since i was 5 years old and was ALWAYS there
when i got the news that she had died, i was sitting on the top of the stairs outside her room, as soon as i hung up the phone i started crying HARD...about 4 or 5 seconds into it, the bathroom light directly below me flipped on by itself
anyone else have a similar story?
MoRgUe27 7 months ago
@Budd703 Or, what if there's nothing after this? and this is all it ever was? that's my only point. no one has proof. the afterlife, in all the different versions that human civilizations have come up with, all the gods, all the theories are just that. theories. till we have concrete proof, I'm gonna live life like this is the only one we will ever have. and knowing that could be a possibility, actually makes me wanna try my best, and be the best person I can be to others.
BrendanWhelan 7 months ago
@Budd703 I can see your point of view, but have a hard time thinking that spirits exist to gain knowledge. if there is a spirit world beyond this, and we are spirits (which we don't have evidence of any existence - it's a man made construct based on myth and stories - any near death experience can be explained through science), if we are really spirits bouncing from world to world, life to life, that makes each life less meaningful to me. cause you don't remember being an alien do you?
BrendanWhelan 7 months ago
@sssummmak Thanks for sharing your differeing viewpoint. Fear is a useless emotion and fearing death is a waste of time.
IntuitiveTeacher 8 months ago 7
fear is ceritnaly not useless., it has its purpose like every emotion, and of course, fearing death is natural, but only if you have never studied it,
zenithar6666 1 week ago
My opinion is that when you die, there is nothing afterwards... You just stop existing that's it... I don't believe there is a soul inside our bodies... so there is nothing that could live in afterlife... I think people should fear death because it's the end...
sssummmak 8 months ago
@sssummmak Although I respect your opinion, I'd like to point out a major flaw in your reasoning. You think that after death, there is nothing. An empty void of eternal blackness. But that's meaningless viewpoint. There can be no void, simply because to define a void, you need "something" in which to compare it. You cannot have a void unto itself, just like you cannot have darkness without light or vice versa. "Nothing" cannot exist, being "nothing" is a state of existence. It's inescapable.
Jdiggy77 6 months ago
@Jdiggy77 Ok now :) unfortunately my english is not that good so I'm not able to discuss this matter that good on philosophic level but I'll try anyway... I don't actually think there is some eternal void of blackness, when you cease to exist there is no way how you'd be able to percieve the "nothingness", when I said there is nothing in afterlife I didn't ment there is state of "nothingness" I ment that, I don't believe there is any state of existance afterwards
sssummmak 6 months ago
@sssummmak when you cease to exist you are just no longer existing, it's a same state before your birth - you just don't exist... that's what come after death in my opinion... but who knows... :)
sssummmak 6 months ago
@sssummmak I see. So you don't believe in the soul/spirit. Well, unfortunately, that pretty much ends our discussion. Your non-belief in the soul makes it impossible to discuss this matter any further.
I hope one day you change your mind. Just try to keep an open mind, and remember that ancient cultures who believed in the spirit world were a lot more advanced than we give them credit nowdays.
Take care of yourself. Namaste.
Jdiggy77 6 months ago
@Jdiggy77 ::: You are right about ancient cultures. 12500 years ago the Egyptians built the pyramid. Astronomy/astrology has always been a strong point in ancient cultures.
k0smon 6 months ago
@sssummmak: How do you know you didn't have experience before you were born? Absence of memory doesn't prove absence of experience. For example, just because you don't remember your dreams, does not prove that you had no experience through the night. You may have had experience and simply don't remember it. Likewise, in the absence of memory what happened before you were born is a black-box, it can't be known.
AnduinX 6 months ago
@AnduinX I didnt say I know, I said I don't BELIEVE in afterlife, I'm an orthodox atheist so I just dont believe in this, although I respect other opinions believes and religions.. but back to the matter I don't believe that human is made of physical shell (body) and some sort of spirit/soul, and if I don't believe in this I can't even believe that there was something before I was born, because I didn't exist
sssummmak 6 months ago
@sssummmak I see human like a living computer, I'll explain, computer does not have soul it is just this physical shell in which runs some software because there is hardwere, when you destroy hardware, software cease to exist with hardware, hope you get what I mean my english really isn't that good :-/
sssummmak 6 months ago
@sssummmak: My own personal view is summed up well by Cyril Burt: "“The brain is not an organ that generates consciousness, but rather an instrument evolved to transmit and limit the processes of consciousness and of conscious attention so as to restrict them to those aspects of the material environment which at any moment are crucial for the terrestrial success of the individual”"
AnduinX 6 months ago
Its 2:53 am, couldn't sleep kept thinking about the afterlife, I am gonna finish watching all parts of this
KowKowProductions 9 months ago
This was an HBO Special that is absolutely worth watching TO THE END. If you do nothing else, AT LEAST watch parts 8 and 9. It brought me to tears and gave me extreme hope and relief!!
dylan42207 9 months ago 13
I had no "need to believe in a afterlife or God, in fact rejected such thoughts but one afternoon I had a profoundly spiritual transforming event for no reason I can explain meeting a bright light like a sun which was intelligent, it had love for me and although I saw no face I felt its smiling face peering deeply into my soul. I came to understand that this light was the center of all of us, the collective soul of all sentient beings as myself and all others in One. Namaste
Hazlitt57 10 months ago
I had no "need to believe in a afterlife or God, in fact rejected such thoughts but one afternoon I had a profoundly spiritual transforming event for no reason I can explain meeting a bright light like a sun which was intelligent, it had love for me and although I saw no face I felt its smiling face peering deeply into my soul. I came to understand that this light was the center of all of us, the collective soul of all sentient beings as myself and all others in One.
Hazlitt57 10 months ago
@Rastagnarian The meaning of life is death man. When you die, you are born again. When you dream, you wake up. A never ending cycle.
TheNightsMoon 10 months ago
surely if this was true then we would all have had reletives come see us after they die? why only certain people see them if its true?
joefrench555 11 months ago
from 6:24-6:52
I found this statement by Dr. Radin to be one of the most logical, simple, well put forward ideas to suppose that there is some higher or recycled consciousness. From this platform one needs no supernatural phenomenon it is all natural.
Blakeontape 11 months ago
In the future when they've proved spirits and after life they'll have after life investigators whom people will hire to find out what bodies there loved one's are now in and they'll be able to find out whom they previously were :)
deanmullen10 1 year ago
@ObviousInfidel guess you'll know the answer to that when you're dead, hope you're right and believe that 100% in your heart<3
mjwible27 1 year ago
@ObviousInfidel If it were that simple, there would be no debate. The debate continues :)
IntuitiveTeacher 1 year ago 10
I'd like to ask these questions to hear people's views:
Do you remember existing before this life? If not, then why do you believe you'll remember this life and exist as you after you die?
Also, if you believe in a soul, as being your true being, and it is eternal, when was that created? At the time of your birth or before? If you think it was before, as a spirit in Heaven, why would God need you to become a Human for less than 100 years, just to become a spirit again?
BrendanWhelan 1 year ago
@BrendanWhelan Well think about it your a sperm before you are developed into a human and theres evidence of ghosts, spirits, orbs etc.
natho369 1 year ago
@natho369 sperm is only half of a Human, you need the egg to combine. and that's my point. when is the "soul" created? at conception? Or was your Soul around before, and just got shot into your Human body? I wonder if there is such a thing as a soul, and if so, why did it manifest into the person you are now at this time? also, there is no concrete evidence of ghosts. if so, I'd like to see. most are stories told by people, and any video footage you present could easily be mimicked.
BrendanWhelan 1 year ago
@BrendanWhelan you'll see a ghost one day or night when you least expect it....it will happen
MorbidAngel2011 7 months ago
@MorbidAngel2011 I look forward to it. But, what about people that have lived and died without ever seeing one. my 85 yr old grandfather hasn't seen one yet.
BrendanWhelan 7 months ago
@BrendanWhelan not everyone sees a ghost in thier life time but the majority do and never realize it. the spirit world is real whether people believe in it or not. theres alot more to the afterlife than our governments and the world religions are willing to admit.
MorbidAngel2011 7 months ago
@MorbidAngel2011 how are you able to speak for the spirit world?
BrendanWhelan 7 months ago
@BrendanWhelan i don't speak for it I speak of it...i've had many encounters...signs so to speak
MorbidAngel2011 7 months ago
human being are Thirsty for water , Because water is exist and there bodies needed.
human being are Thirsty for justice, Because justice exist,and there souls and bodies needed.
then god exist and he will judge all human in afterlife.
11BEAUTIFUL11 1 year ago
As for those people who don't force their beliefs on others and genuinely are good people despite their superstitions, I still believe that there is more peace and joy to be found in reality. I think of all of the years I spent believing in nonsense and I feel very cheated. Maybe I'm weird that way and others are not likely to have the same experience, but this experience is all I have. I was made happier, fuller, and more at peace by embracing natural reality. I hope that others can as well.
jklarson66 1 year ago
@jklarson66 If that system works for you, great. I didn´t know you were cheated by religion, sorry. However, i also think that atheist arguments for alleviating purposelessness and fear of death aren´t enough for me, and that´s why i felt i had to answer your assertion.Besides, i´m also a bit tired of some excessive generalizations i´ve heard by some people about religion, and although i´m not a believer, when facing some hard questions, i can (to a degree) understand why they believe.
Scaadaasc 1 year ago
"as long as they don´t force you into them or don´t hurt anyone"? You say that as though they don't try to force their beliefs on others and hurt people. I would be perfectly content to shut up if that were the case but it's not. As long as superstitious idiots regularly do whatever they can to make life miserable for others, they deserve to be mocked and ridiculed for it. There's no such thing as a harmless delusion.
More on Twain's quote next...
jklarson66 1 year ago
@jklarson66 I say that because i know, personally, people with religious beliefs that haven´t done whatever they could to make life miserable for anyone. Maybe they´re an exception, but i think there are more out there. It seems to me that your vision is a bit extreme. However, i agree with you in one point: there are way too many people trying to force beliefs,scamming, and hurting others in the name of their beliefs. I see their actions as horrendous and i don´t respect them at all.
Scaadaasc 1 year ago
i WISH and wish and wish for an afterlife i used to be christian now im just a believer in something out there. and this helps me alot to take that worry away. my friend is the most honnest person i know he encounters old relatives every few months..we dont need evidence in my short life ive already learned that trust and belief can be as great as evidence
IIHOWLEYII 1 year ago
if there is eternal nothingness before & after life as scientific opinions suppose then how can an eternal nothingness before life even end to give rise to life in the 1st place? and then there is only one answer it cant be eternal hence there must of been something before the nothing before our life hence there is only one possibility life?
deanmullen10 1 year ago
if you still believe there is no life after death, just go and sleep at a cemmentery by yourself for a week, and then come back in here and post your comments, maybe you would change your mind.
1800levso 1 year ago
we call death when the body is no longer able to carry life, life is not the body, but the energy inside the body, when all the information is gone, then your body is dead, what happen to you? since you are not a body and you truly are energy, the information, brain itself is not you, because brain stores energy as information. what happens to it when it dyes? could be that there is another type of energy the same that built your body, the one that tells the cell how to create it. just my opinio
1800levso 1 year ago
How do you purchase this film on dvd?
nickandmikec 1 year ago
i once stood by my bed and i saw me in bed asleep like two of me but i was the concious one outside my sleeping body i could see clear in the dark room very weird
britelite2657 1 year ago
"Intuitive Teacher"... and other skeptics ... take a look at the book "The Scole Experiment: Scientific Evidence for Life After Death." Your position is quaint and 19th century empirical, I suggest moving forward into the 21st century. You will be amazed.
vrartist 1 year ago
@vrartist Amazed at what? 19th century empircal? What does that mean?
endofscene 1 year ago
When I was nine, I had a thought of my grandmother dying and so did my mother. Shortly after the thought, she died. It wasn't ESP. It was just because she was having heart problems and she had a serious heart attack.
Factor in all the instances when people have had purported experiences with people post-mortem, but the people were still alive? It is true that people live on in our hearts and minds, but the dead do not exist independently of our minds.
TheFlanker35 1 year ago
@TheFlanker35 You state that as if it is a fact when it is merely your opinion.
endofscene 1 year ago
@endofscene,
No, that's fact. Plenty of so called ESP messages have been proven false.
TheFlanker35 1 year ago
@TheFlanker35 It is not a fact at all. Even if many socalled ESP messages have proven false that doesn't prove there is no such thing as ESP.
endofscene 1 year ago
@endofscene,
The false ESP reporting does not prove that ESP doesn't exist, but it does demonstrate that these reports don't provide much real evidence of ESP by themselves. They provide about as much evidence of ESP as the Macy's day parade provides evidence of Santa Claus.
TheFlanker35 1 year ago
My belief is the soul exists outside of the body and isn't motivated to animate a body, but that it's the other way around. You're entitled to your opinion. So am I. My personal opinion is that some people are such fundamentalists that they have difficulty believing what they can't see, touch or feel with their own senses or need some "authority" to tell them what to believe. Have several nice days :)
IntuitiveTeacher 1 year ago 14
y can think i am crazy i am 16 years old and i am dreaming the future and now i am looking for answers why i do this. Last week i saved myself from a embarrassment in school. I dreamed somone i asking me if i smoke of cours i said yes(i never smoked) he was asking me what brand and than i got nervos and said Lucky strike on my way home we both and he bought me lucky strike......and he noticed i didnt smoked the whole day......that was my dream the next day i was asked if i smoke i said no
friebender 1 year ago
@IntuitiveTeacher he smoked lucky strike too and he bought at the same automat we went throw in my dream same action different result i didnt get class victim cause of my dream
friebender 1 year ago
@IntuitiveTeacher agree. Some people are so influenced of other people instead listening to them self.
capcom23 1 year ago
@IntuitiveTeacher I agree with you totally :D I'm glad people know about such things ~
yggra31 4 months ago
So if there is an afterlife how do you think feel etc. with your brain rotting with your body. My mom thinks your soul can do that, but ive never seen a person get a bad head injury and starty operating on soul power. My personal opinion is people will do intellectual backflips to avoid the fact that one day its all gonna end.
aodonnell51 1 year ago
@aodonnell51 You do not need a physical body to think and feel and exist.
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Celsus1984 1 year ago
My dead Father came to me in a dream one night...I'll never forget it!
unshutoptic1 1 year ago
@unshutoptic1 that happened to me too! except with my grandma and a friend that just passed. and i saw my grandfather when i was 3 years old apparently. do you believe that that was really your father? i did believe 100% in all that as well as God, but I've just been having doubts lately. but i think i still believe in God and the afterlife...lol wow sorry that was long. just curious tho :)
jb21592 1 year ago
@jb21592 . I do. But I know what you mean because faith can be fleeting. There's been times where I questioned whether I was psycotic or not...LOL...But I know I'm not crazy. So then the only other option is to say it was a vivid dream. Well I've been dreaming all of my life and I can tell when a dream is not quite a ''dream''
The concept of God is something I don't think any human can really comprehend. So many people say there's no scientific proof. Well for me, existence is proof enough.
unshutoptic1 1 year ago
Someday we will know the truth;)
81Sunflwr 1 year ago 4
according to the vedic masters apart from the grossest layer (anna maya kosha) of a human being that we see daily in the mirror there are 4 more layers to us. the evidence of this fact are 'clairvoyants' -the people who can see the second sheath of a human- the pranamaya kosha- in the form of colors. and also there are 7 dimensions of existence, it is simply a question of which frequency your senses are able to perceive.
tulika089 1 year ago
Very interesting documentary. Nice post!
Jayoung1000 1 year ago
I feel this is the place where i can finally talk to all the people who for some earthly reason i could not talk to in this life.
I will go so i can wait to talk with someone who does not wish to talk with me.
I will wait and hope they have shed all their objections to me when they arrive.
This is my only option,i have tried tokbox and countless other options.
CarsOfGaia 1 year ago
its so easy to be an athiest --most of em are man pleasers with no guts. as they may get too much flak if they say they beleive in God
49128 1 year ago
We should't contrast existence with non-existence,the unconscious is so to say the part of experience of which is doing consciousness...the real you,thats the you in you is the same as the you in me..its perfectly indestructible..do you see that YOU are already are that..
thegriggspaul 1 year ago
if you genuinely believe in an afterlife then why do you fasten your seatbelt? Even the pope of all people is driven around in a bullet proof car!
NAP0LE0NDYNAM1TE 1 year ago
@NAP0LE0NDYNAM1TE For the same reason I don't skip dinner and go right to the dessert. Just because it exists, doesn't mean that the current course sucks.
IntuitiveTeacher 1 year ago 14
@IntuitiveTeacher I don't eat desserts, they are of little or no nutritional value. A dessert can be proven to exist, I sincerely hope there is an afterlife and a god, but I'm sure if god is the nice guy that everyone says he is then he'll forgive my current scepticism which may or may not dissapear when I die. I'm sure people will have been forgiven for worse!
In the meantime I'll enjoy my real life. take care.
NAP0LE0NDYNAM1TE 1 year ago
@NAP0LE0NDYNAM1TE I enjoy all aspects of life I including appetizer to dessert. I know you get my metaphor. God or not is a whole discussion separate from the after life. I don't have to believe in a god to believe in the after life. Take care :)
IntuitiveTeacher 1 year ago 7
@IntuitiveTeacher agreed. sorry, I always make associations with religion when it comes to the afterlife, probably due to some mild exposure to Jesus and his chums it as a child at school. But until we have real proof I can't rationally believe in an afterlife and don't take any comfort from the prospect of eternal life after death. I guess we'll all find out someday, but until then I don't see the sense in worrying about it. Fear of death is good for your health! lol.
NAP0LE0NDYNAM1TE 1 year ago
@IntuitiveTeacher Do you drink beer? Cuz sometimes I do.
sybobchillin 1 year ago
@NAP0LE0NDYNAM1TE YOU ARE SAYING THE TRUTH..
Kawagi1 1 year ago
@Kawagi1 we'll never know for sure. don't worry about it. you won't be a bad person if to dissagree with religion -if god is as nice as people say he is then he'll forgive our scepticism.
NAP0LE0NDYNAM1TE 1 year ago
@NAP0LE0NDYNAM1TE That is the way. Thank you for contribution. We are obliged to be ourselves, otherwise we would not be alive (in this sense or another).
Kawagi1 1 year ago
@IntuitiveTeacher
What a bloody good response
TheBillyhub 1 year ago
@NAP0LE0NDYNAM1TE Who can argue with logic like that?
cunnidvd 1 year ago
@NAP0LE0NDYNAM1TE
Because you may have more stuff you want to do on earth before you go. It is very important to be ready for the crossover.
MsPerfectsquare 1 year ago
@NAP0LE0NDYNAM1TE simple. you want to enjoy life as much as possible. This is how you also will grow!
capcom23 1 year ago
@NAP0LE0NDYNAM1TE Just because there IS an afterlife it does not mean you want to terminate your life.. there is a reason you are here.. you can say im wrong now but when you die you will see.. :) I find it funny that skeptics will put so much energy in saying there is no afterlife but will not take the step to dispove
metahelix 8 months ago
Hi let me start by saying that this earth and our universe and people are made out of mater
But for all mater there is a complete opposite call antimatter its almost like looking into a mirror but you can`t see antimatter
Quantum Physics proves this
This could explains that when you die you become your antimatter your opposite of matter
As in many religious books it says that there is a physical form and a spiritual form of everything but they are the same
paul556 1 year ago
Hi let me start by saying that this earth and our universe and people are made out of mater
But for all mater there is a complete opposite call antimatter its almost like looking into a mirror but you can`t see antimatter
Quantum Physics proves this
This could explains that when you die you become your antimatter your opposite of matter
As in many religious books it says that there is a physical form and a spiritual form of everything but they are the same
paul556 1 year ago
lovely
endofscene 1 year ago
I can barely hear this video, sadly, so i can't give it a thumbs up rating, but I hereby voice my support that someone has offered the video and others like it.
HowDareThey1970 1 year ago
I was a rational disbeliever. I thought since no one can pick up another side with the naked eye (on demand/ or prove the can) or with a man-made scientific instrument, then it must not exist. I was sure of it.
Now I see how closed minded and simple that assured disbelief was. I was not basing my conclusion on reason.
Mommaddd1 1 year ago
@PassingStorms
whose reality? what reality?
Mommaddd1 1 year ago
It´s possible there is one, but improbable. My main objection is: if there is a soul, why the mind is affected when the brain is affected. If we have a soul, why doesn´t it keep our mind intact throughout our lives, brain damage and illness notwithstanding? And how we keep our memories after death if we lose them in life because of an illness, by example?
Scaadaasc 1 year ago
@Scaadaasc Think of Cartesian dualism, "the ghost in the machine". If there is a soul, but it uses the brain to control the body here on the physical plane, if it needs all that physical stuff as a "machine" to operate within the physical plane. then when the "machine" is damaged (the brain or the body) the soul is limited with what it can do with the damaged machine. I think of it that way.
It does require speculation about other dimensions where the soul might operate more freely.
HowDareThey1970 1 year ago
@HowDareThey1970 That hypothesis would mean also than when the "machine" dies, soul cannot interact at all with the physical world, isn´t it?
It´s an interesting hypothesis. Sadly, it cannot be verified by any mean i know of, and it would also posit problems abot the nature and origin of the soul, and the question of why only humans have it, so it remains in the realm of belief. However, it can give a lot of hope. Just by curiosity, have you had some experience connected with it?
Scaadaasc 1 year ago
@Scaadaasc Your questions are good. And they have answers. But knowledge usually begins with questions. It is as HowDareThey1970 said: the body is a vehicle for the soul. An instrument. A machine the soul uses to express and experience itself in the physical world. If a car is damaged or broken it doesn't matter who is behind the wheel, the car won't work properly.
endofscene 1 year ago
@Scaadaasc When the soul incarnates it limits itself to the physical body, so that whatever damage is suffered by the physical body is thusly experienced by the mind and consciousness. Once free of the physical body any limitation or obstruction ceases to be an issue.
Regarding memories, they are 'stored' not only in the physical body but also in the soul itself, so after death the soul carries with it every impression from that life.
endofscene 1 year ago
@endofscene Thanks for your answers. Your hypothesis is interesting and answers some of my questions. However, and i don´t mean to be offensive, i don´t know of any concrete evidence of it, and, on the other side, the evidences i do know of point to oblivion after death. I´ve read about testimonies of people interacting with spirits and the like, but they are inconclusive or, directly, false. If you have a sure way to verify the soul, could you please tell me?
Scaadaasc 1 year ago
@Scaadaasc You aren't being offensive. The only sure way to verify the soul (or anything for that matter) is in your own direct experience. Short of this you can only speculate. You will probably have to wait until death before you can know 'for sure'. However, if you were truly interested in such things then there are plenty of books on the subject and other sources of information as well.
endofscene 1 year ago
@Scaadaasc Remember, if a scientist has a theory he doesn't just sit on his arse and wait for Nature to give him evidence. He must do research and create experiments to test for results to give him evidence. So, if you are truly interested in the subject of life after death then you will dedicate earnest energy and real time to it. Otherwise, you will just have to wait and see for yourself when your time comes. Peace.
endofscene 1 year ago
@endofscene I thought that, since you seems to be so sure about it´s existence, you knew of a way to directly experience it. But, anyways, you are right, i´ll have to check the various sources and books, and do some research of my own.
Thanks for your answers. Peace.
Scaadaasc 1 year ago
@Scaadaasc life is related to time, there were so many before you asking the same question and now they are gone from this world, the only thing I can tell you and have no proof for it, is that there is an energy that created all of us, one that tells cells how to build bodies and create intelligent beings such as yourself, energy that is everywhere you look, it tells the space to be space, time to be time and how to behave, it's a base universe energy since nothing is chaos and has a guide.
1800levso 1 year ago
@1800levso It´s a belief i´ve heard before. Sadly, i don´t believe in it, so i can´t find hope in it. Even if such cosmic regulator energy existed, that wouldn´t be a guarantee of persistence after death. Thanks for your opinion, however.
Scaadaasc 1 year ago
when you die you dream. there is a gland in the center everyone's brain that pumps out fumes of DMT. and that is how you dream. rite before you die your brain pumps huge amount of DMT.
MrSHOGUN101 1 year ago
maybe we will wake up totally brainwashed as another person lol
Who knows I could have been Adolf Hitler you could have been Napoleon and the others here are our slaves back then? haha
joshtong1234 1 year ago
proove it
distiking 1 year ago
@PassingStorms How do you know? Have you died and some how came back? You don't know, nobody knows. Scientist don't know, priests don't even know. the only ones that know are the ones that are dead. so really there is no facts.
slimm1121 1 year ago
@slimm1121 It would be honest to admit that you yourself don't know. It would be wrong to claim that nobody knows.
endofscene 1 year ago
@PassingStorms How do you know? Have you died and some how came back? You don't know, nobody knows. Scientist don't know, priests don't even know. the only ones that know are the ones that are dead. so really there is no facts.
slimm1121 1 year ago
there is after life and that is a fact but there is real proof that there is ghosts some ppl choose to not belive in it and get on with there life but belive it or not they are round u
mixcaramel 1 year ago
@mixcaramel I'm inclined to believe in the supernatural, however I wonder what you have seen or experienced that makes you think it is an established fact? In my limited experience, encounters with what you think is the supernatural tend to be so ambiguous and unclear, you're still left wondering.
HowDareThey1970 1 year ago
@HowDareThey1970 That is because you don't dedicate much time or energy to such things. If a scientist wants to make real progress in a certain direction then he must really apply himself. Newton and Einstein were not just casual philosophers or part time theorists. Their understanding of the physical world was their life and livelihood. It was their raison d'etre.
endofscene 1 year ago
@HowDareThey1970 Because of their efforts we now have more knowledge about the world. There are likewise many advanced souls and psychic people who have dedicated their life to the discovery and dissemination of spiritual truth. The knowledge they have shared is every bit as real and useful as that of Newton and other scientists.
endofscene 1 year ago
@HowDareThey1970 Yet you have never heard of these people because you haven't done the research. Now, if you were to read such writings you may still not know for sure, but then you don't really know for sure if Einstein's theories are correct. You just take other peoples' word for it. And since you live in a scientific materialist society, you are more likely to believe in 'science' than in spirituality.
endofscene 1 year ago
@PassingStorms According to Princeton, a fact is, "a concept whose truth can be proved; ". Your statement falls short of proof, and therefore is not a "fact". The lack of an afterlife has not been proven or dis-proven.
IntuitiveTeacher 1 year ago 6
@IntuitiveTeacher Yes, but you see its may be in mathematics that 'there will always be something that you know is to be true, but it cannot be proven'...so, it is more possible that it is there not to be proven, but is a fact of truth. I can't quite remeber which mathematician came up with this but remember this from Dangerous Knowledge BBC Documentary
jamedbond007 1 year ago
if the space goes on forever as shown by M-theory, then everything possible must happen including my existence and thus after I am no longer alive this fact should remain, that I exist because I must thus we conclude we must exist after life.
deanmullen10 1 year ago
A person's soul as manifested in a physical body is similar to the operating system program of a computer. You cannot touch, see, hear, taste, or smell the program itself. Yet you are aware of it's presence when manifested within a computer. The computer is dead with an operating system program. In a similar manner, the soul does not possess qualities which can be measured by physical instruments or sensed by your physical senses. Your physical could not exist without a soul.
Mrtlee77 1 year ago
if it was true our loved ones would come back let us know, its as simple as that .. dont need mediums and the bullshit. if there is no after life then what is the point of life.....
19smokey19 1 year ago
@19smokey19 That is exactly what this video is about. It shows that in many many cases peoples' loved ones do come back to let them know. Most people just don't talk about it.
endofscene 1 year ago
The truth is, we do not yet know what the relationship between consciousness and matter actually is. It is an assumption to think that cosciousness is reducible to only to the workings of the brain. (Sam Harris, End of faith, Paperback, Pg. 235)
Keysteeze 1 year ago
Cool presentation.
CultExposer 1 year ago
The strangeness of quantum theory is no argument for an afterlife. Consciousness is not "energy" as this video puts it. There is no consciusness particle. Consciousness is a process. When the matter and energy which once carried out consciousness takes on a different form then this process no longer taking place. The same electricity that is translated into a game of tetris on my computer cannot carry out that game of tetris if it goes through my ceiling fan.
jklarson66 1 year ago
@jklarson66, your analogy is materialism and has been destroyed by contemporary philosophers and neuro-scientists. There is literally tons of documentation of afterlife experiences today and in history.. But people like you and other teenagers never read a damn thing. Skeptcs are all about control and want to keep people in the non-thinking and non-exlporatory mode.
CultExposer 1 year ago
@CultExposer I really don't mean to sound silly here but isn't even the idea of a documented afterlife experience impossible? If someone is able to give an account of an experience then they are alive and have not yet experienced what may or may not be in the afterlife. What specific studies in neurology are you talking about?
jklarson66 1 year ago
@jklarson66 Near Death Experiences are actually experiences had by people who have technically died for some period of earth time and have been subsequently revived. This can and does happen.
Other evidence comes from people who have crossed over and not returned, and who then communicate back through mediums or directly to certain individuals. There is much literature on such phenomena.
endofscene 1 year ago
@endofscene We know what portions of the brain are used to produce and interpret language. If these areas are damaged then communication is lost. Despite this you somehow claim that once these parts of the brain are dead entirely the person is magically able to speak and communicate in the form of some ethereal phantom. If a person continues to think and experience after the brain is dead, what exactly is the brain for? Every medium who has ever been put to the test has been proved a fraud.
jklarson66 1 year ago
@jklarson66 This is because consciousness and mind (intelligence) are not limited to the brain. The soul does not require a physical body to think, feel, speak, perceive and act. It simply *uses* a physical body to do these things on the physical level. The brain is an organ inside the skull. It is a part of the physical body. The physical body is used by the soul to express and experience itself at this level of consciousness.
endofscene 1 year ago
@jklarson66 You cannot say that every psychic medium who has been scientifically tested has been proven as a fraud for you don't know every medium who has ever existed nor the results of every test. Look on youtube for some very interesting documentaries on such mediums and tests. Besides, this video here that you are commenting on gives one example of an experiment involving mediums and it seemed to go pretty well.
endofscene 1 year ago
@jklarson66 maybe because brain is part of our body, just like the eyes, if you are blind, you are blind, you won't be able to see, if your brain is dead but you still alive, you still alive, you won't be able to think or move or do anything, all sense are gone. but you still be alive, after the body and the brain is dead, the life energy is released from the body, then you are officially in other world, remember that you are not your brain, you are energy in your brain and body,
1800levso 1 year ago
@1800levso Exactly what good is that energy if has no innate senses of its own and cannot carry out conscious thought without a brain? Whoopti doo! I'm energy!. A rock is made out of the exact same energy. I hardly see how this is an argument for the existence of a soul. A video game is energy but we don't imagine that energy magically enters some other realm when the xbox gets shut off. It just stops being a video game just like our energy stops being a person once we die.
jklarson66 1 year ago
@1800levso All of this spiritual mumbo jumbo may really sound like it doesn't hurt anybody and it gives people hope but it does hurt people. Millions get scammed every year not only by organized religion but by new age snake oil medicines, lotions, and potions that don't do anything. It makes people stupid and blinds them to the reality of this universe which is quite beautiful on it's own without all of the hocus pocus mythology. It's 2011, can't we all act like grownups now?
jklarson66 1 year ago
@jklarson66 I agree, scammers and organized religion should dissappear, because of the damage they cause. However, the need for a meaning of life and for a life after death are still there, and the beauty of the universe doesn´t seem to fulfill these needs for the majority of people. If you supress spirituality, how do you fulfill those needs? Specially since our death and the death of humanity will render all our efforts pointless.
And, by the way, a believer isn´t necessarily inmature.
Scaadaasc 1 year ago
@Scaadaasc If the beauty of reality isn't enough for most people then they're not paying attention. Beauty doesn't come from magic. The principles of logic and mathematics are transcendent and eternal without any hocus pocus mythology. The recognition of a living consciousness in another inspires love and compassion whether there is life after this one or not. Mortality makes life infinitely precious while so many waste it under the delusion that a new and magical world is on the way.
jklarson66 1 year ago
@jklarson66 I disagree. It´s not a matter of paying attention, it´s a matter of not being enough to compensate.I don´t know if eternal life would give meaning, but i do know that mortality takes it away, as death erases forever your identity, memories and experiences, and makes them meaningless. And, since that is the eventual fate of all of humanity and its works, what matters in what you spend your life? When you are aware of that fact, it´s no strange that many people clings to that hope.
Scaadaasc 1 year ago
@Scaadaasc People don't need "spirituality". People need love, beauty, truth, food, water, and maybe a decent foot rub from time to time. The only reason people think they need superstitious beliefs is because salesmen, preachers, politicians, and out of work child actors have pounded the idea into our skulls since we were in huggies. It's a con job. It's a scam. Reality may not offer eternal life, but it does offer freedom, love, and more beauty than any superstitionist could possibly imagine.
jklarson66 1 year ago
@jklarson66 I disagree again. The need of eternal life stems from our instinct to survive at all costs, coupled with the conscience of our own mortality. That need, like many others, has been exploited and perverted, but it´s still there. And, regarding purpose, imagine the feeling of having done something absolutely for naught, not even personal satisfaction. Now, apply that to your entire life, coupled with the inevitable end of the results of all your work and experiences. How do you feel?
Scaadaasc 1 year ago
@Scaadaasc Are you serious? You really think that if you can't live forever then you wouldn't want to live at all? How childish is that? You don't care enough about your friends and family to want to live to make their lives better? This is exactly the type of thinking people need to move past. I live every day fully expecting nothing other than complete annihiliation and I'm happier than I ever was believing in fairy tales. There are millions of us and all living perfectly happy lives.
jklarson66 1 year ago
@jklarson66 Yes, i´m serious. And no, that´s not childish at all. To me, it´s just a logical consequence of being conscious of inevitable annihilation in the long run of all of us, our efforts and all proofs that we did exist once. These are the philosophical consequences of atheism, and you can´t move past them, you can just ignore them. They don´t prevent me from being happy and caring about people,they make me understand believers and their fairy tales a bit more.
Scaadaasc 1 year ago
@Scaadaasc Atheists don't lack the same kind of emotional needs as other people. We just realized that these needs are met much easier when you let go of egotistical fantasies and grand delusions of immortality. Enjoy life for what it is. You lucked into this life through absolutely no fault of your own. Hell, I didn't exist for billions of years before I was born and it never bothered me in the slightest. Every moment you get is far more than you ever could have expected. Enjoy it.
jklarson66 1 year ago
@jklarson66 No, it´s just easier for people like you. For other people, existence isn´t so lucky. And if these beliefs helps them to cope with hardness of existence, as long as they don´t force you into them or don´t hurt anyone(including themselves) with them or because of them and makes them happy, what does it matter ? When you don´t exist, you don´t care about the consequences of existence, but when you exist, you DO, so Mark Twain´s quote is really quite useless.
Scaadaasc 1 year ago
@Scaadaasc Sorry, the last comment should have been posted as a reply. As for Twain's quote, the point is that once you're dead you won't be around to care about it. It's not as though you'll spend eternity sitting in quiet darkness. That would be hell. You just won't be around at all. What you did in this life will continue to affect those you've known long after you're gone. Why be depressed. To say that any mark left is meaningless if not infinite is just bizarre.
jklarson66 1 year ago