What about the replicator! You know.. the device that is used to prepare meals instantaneously with a push of a button, something like that would be nice.
Unlimited energy sources are out there!But a few ppl make too many billions from our energy needs to let this technology be known,Get a real free energy motor at LT-MAGNET-MOTORdotCOM ,take part in the revolution!
damn!!! i hope well live in a world where robots serve us drinks, newspapers have videos and cars gives us advice like in the movies.. i hope and think this technology would be typical and widespread in say.... 2040??
I don't want a car that tells me I'm too tired to drive, no robot is going to be the boss of me. Also there's no way I'm getting into a car that could one day choke me to death with a motor powered seat belt.
It seems the future generations will be incapable even of looking at freezer for water. So as we get more comfort so like machines get more control over our world.
80% of all teenagers would have a nervous break down if they saw Miley Cyrus on top of a skyscraper about to jump. Copy and Paste if you are part of the 20% that would watch and start screaming, "Jump, bitch, jump!"
A car that can detect alcohol in sweat? Can tell if the driver is about to fall asleep? We really need that in the USA. A sleepy driver could easily kill me, and I often bike when the chance of a driver falling asleep is at its greatest. I work nights.
that is possible but if humans workout or/and eat healthy food everything will be ok but i know its hard for some people.... i meen i do workout alot but i do also eat alot of fast food annyway i wont get anny more fat because of all the running so as u see all u realy need to do is run/jog for 1 hour and u will keep youre shape because no one can stop the future
You're only seeing a reflection of yourself. The fact that you took time to stoop so low and call me a name instead of making a rational argument....says so much about you. I would rather debate someone who has an actual thought. Don't post things on the net if your analysis can't make it past the 5th grade.
ohsnap31 (what a user name) are you like 7? Or do you just have the mental capacity of one. Hmm, I'd sooner believe the latter. If you think I'm a person who'll waste my personal time to elaborate my point on why you were actually being a retard, you seriously are expressing terms of how YOU'RE reflecting upon yourself - how ironic, and to think I was some guy who can't make an analysis surpassing that of a 5th grader.
The fact that you have no acknowledgement on modern tech reinforces my point
I decided early on that you would not be worth my time.. Perhaps if you would have attempted a logical argument rather than get your feelings hurt it would have been different. You appear to have a small mind. The iphone especially with its thousands of applications is superior to anything in the video. That was my statement. You disagree, but you can't elaborate because it is too difficult for you. That is your statement. Boy you're a genius. Try to be rational next time.
When I replied to you, it was half two in the morning AND there were only 500 characters available in a comment box, and guess what? My last comment IS exactly 500 comments. And "rather than get your feelings hurt" wtf, how old do you think I am?! lmao!
The fact that you say that an Iphone surpasses any technologically developed product in this video shows how much of a small-minded person I'm dealing with here
But an Iphone's technology has been available for SO long, the products showed are some of the immense breakthroughs in technological development. I'm sorry, but if you say an Iphone is more developed than a Robot available to follow commands as accurately as a human, realise when a 'charge' is in need, and even evade obstacles in the way, there's my explanation why you're a retard.
Furthermore, an Iphone, as impressive as it maybe, but doesn't even scrape the surface of half of these products, for example, a TV on plastic which enables the product to emit it's own light. You're looking at the iphone in entertainment values, not technological. So yeah, you ARE a retard, I just had no patience to express my opinion
I accept your apology. Apple's iPhone was in fact named the "Invention of the Year" by Time magazine and a host of other publications in 2007. The Iphone has come a long way since then, it is faster, sleeker, more affordable, has more features such as GPS, and above all supports thousands of free and low cost applications. What invention in this video has taken off and is considered a "must have" device by consumers? A robot playing the violin is entertainment and not practical.
Accept my apology? I don't recall apologising... I agree the Iphone has advanced a lot but it's not half as advanced and has the potential to revolutionise our everyday lives, maybe the technology, but not the Iphone itself, all the Iphone is is a device with several already invented devices in one mobile device, it's great how compact they've made it but it's not new technology, unlike the precision of these
QUOTE: "A robot playing the violin is entertainment and not practical."
But whether something is entertainment doesn't make it not practical. One could even make the argument that everything we do is for the objective of entertainment. We eat for entertainment and it reduces hunger to allow more entertainment. People have babies so they can enjoy raising them. People try to make money to entertain life. Arguing is entertainment and is a way to combat ideas that may threaten entertainment
I agree with your comment. You could claim the iphone is pure entertainment. But in terms of practicality... the iphone can be purchased by a person with average income and used in many ways on a daily bases. A robot playing the violin is cool, but not affordable to millions, and even if the price came down, it is a product of little daily relevance (look at the robot pets in extinction) and little impact aside from being on display for guests. That is what I mean by not being practical.
I see. But I see many uses. Firstly, ya gotta admit that playing in a band with a bunch of robots would be pretty cool. They would never quit the band and wouldn't make mistakes. I could even practice with them or impress my friends and potential companions.
They could also be used at restaurants every night without having to pay for an expensive band. Their only limitation is in our imagination! The fact it plays violin is arbitrary - what's relevant is robots work for free! haha
The purpose of all of these gadgets is to make it possible to create technology that can both take up less space and aid us in our daily lives. The robot the plays the violin may seem pointless, but it is in fact a stepping stone toward more advanced robots which are able to do much more. The cars that are able to aid the drivers were created as a means of reducing fatalities. So unless you've created something amazing and world changing, don't talk down to people who are well on their way.
Hahah.. My comment was SARCASM.. Perhaps you should read the comment i was replying to before making posting another comment...i have complete respect for those who created these brilliant machines... I was commenting on someone who said "This isn't tech"
Absolutely not....Im not trying to be rude or cruel.. Its just common fact that some people are not mentally capable of being doctors and scientists... I wish it was like that.. but its not...Basic jobs may not be great and wonderful to behold.. But at least the man who can't be a doctor or scientist can do that job and use the money it generates to support himself or his family..
we're not advanced in personal gadgets like this because the USA concentrates on machines of war...So we'll let the japanese build their robots and when their done.. We'll make it bigger.. put armor on it and strap duel mounted mini-guns on its shoulders and replace one of its arms with a quad packed surface-to-air missile launcher
its good and bad in a way. especially in the case of robots. think about it in the economic view. how would it be for us if robots replaced us to do OUR jobs.
no it wouldnt. robots can help us build more. produce even more high tech stuff. history have proven that. the machines of the industrial revolution created more jobs than replaced human jobs.
The Fictionial movies made years ago are becoming more True. Science fiction is not Fiction any more then what is it? If that Honda starts to become like Blade Runner I'm gonna piss my self to death.
Wohow...take it easy down there...before those technologies, let's stop and think how the future will be if we just fill the world with techs. Do you even know what would actually happen?
Pollutions, stubborn and lazy people (as in relying on techs when we can actually do it our selves).
Common sense dude. I still want to see a clean future with fresh, natural air. I still want to see the earth green...NOT GRAY or even BLACK!!!
lol how exactly is a bunch of robots that run on Electricity going to turn the sky black? And do you really think that in a futuristic "tech" world that we would still have Oil to burn and pollute? We will be forced to find alternative energy sources for this so called "tech-future".. Solar energy being the most likely...Thats if we don't bomb our selves back to the stone age of course...
If you are a Business Education Teacher, Technology Education Teacher, or Career Development Coach you REALLY need have your students view this. What you will see here are the jobs they will be employed in for the next 5 or so years, until newer and better technology displaces what you see here!
What about the replicator! You know.. the device that is used to prepare meals instantaneously with a push of a button, something like that would be nice.
Dimitri0809 4 months ago
i am super super obsessed with tech and the 21st century bad
mquiroz90 1 year ago
This makes me wanna move to Japan because they are so hi-tech
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hungarylnnjsd 1 year ago
but human race still lack in mechanical technology... we still cant fly to moon for picnic...
KOKOCrunchist 1 year ago
i would like them to make robots like the ones from chobits :3
ravengoth9292 1 year ago
@ravengoth9292 We're still quite a few technological leaps away from persocoms!
computerworld 1 year ago
@computerworld hope that the technology moves faster!!
ravengoth9292 1 year ago
damn!!! i hope well live in a world where robots serve us drinks, newspapers have videos and cars gives us advice like in the movies.. i hope and think this technology would be typical and widespread in say.... 2040??
dolinovodno2500 1 year ago
@dolinovodno2500
lol
MrFantaX 1 year ago
I don't want a car that tells me I'm too tired to drive, no robot is going to be the boss of me. Also there's no way I'm getting into a car that could one day choke me to death with a motor powered seat belt.
Barclay1950 1 year ago 2
isnt the display an amoled display??
Master0fB00m 1 year ago
its 2010 i dont see any of that :(
washingtonclaypictur 1 year ago 8
pivo 2 looks like gundam
nyle123nyle 1 year ago
Where is GUNDAM!? LOL
MrChanat 1 year ago
wow! the Future ! :D
kallechaihan 1 year ago
now I can go to sleep.... thx
dudleza 1 year ago
Asimo is awesome!
CookieMonzta1995 1 year ago
So if I don't want someone to drive their car, all I have to do is pour alcohol on their hand. Can't see that being abused at all....
elfenliedbleachFMA 1 year ago
@elfenliedbleachFMA I think the hole entire objected of that car is defeated if I wear sneaky gloves! :D
CookieMonzta1995 1 year ago
It seems the future generations will be incapable even of looking at freezer for water. So as we get more comfort so like machines get more control over our world.
AZURA888 1 year ago
screw robot waiters less jobs for people...
FS9Media 1 year ago 8
indeed.. first its waiters.. .then its this.. then its that... slowly robots will dominate most human jobs ?
Mosawakening 1 year ago
omg, the drowsy seatbelt made me think of a really racist joke... lol
gorillagirlgorilla 2 years ago
6:26???
DeathIIV 2 years ago
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My iPod touch is more hi tech then that robot
sladesyd 2 years ago
This is cool, but with all this technology the world will become even more lazy than they already are lol
ge0ytube34 2 years ago
:O! Will the robot converse with you?
or just tell you if your high or whatever?
Also, if you piss off the car, will it be mean back to you? lock you in your car, activate the airbag just to scare the shit out of you?
these are things I wonder
DeluxeTimeBomb 2 years ago
haha you are funny. Nice thinking.
justinblue 2 years ago
the weelchiar looks like the one nat uses in code geass
xDark2Lightx 2 years ago
AGREE !
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japs and their ridiculous robots
VirtRampage 2 years ago
like transition frm flintstones to the jetsons........lol
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80% of all teenagers would have a nervous break down if they saw Miley Cyrus on top of a skyscraper about to jump. Copy and Paste if you are part of the 20% that would watch and start screaming, "Jump, bitch, jump!"
Alby3001 2 years ago
recession maybe
vrshowdown 2 years ago
oh great, so if someone has stabbed you, you cannot escape if you have been drinking.. hehe
jwiska 2 years ago 6
lol ur so right.but if u spill a achoholic dink on ur car sits.and someone trys to attack/mug u noway out.good car for saw
1996prince 2 years ago 3
well im sure the car would have an emergency start. or at least an emergency phone or something
Mattco92 2 years ago
yeah i agree
leandrethal7476 2 years ago
wow we are realy behind this is 2009 and ive not seen those thing anywhere on the market.
1996prince 2 years ago 4
yea our world is really changing, in fact, its advancing exponentially.
Gilb604 2 years ago 2
I think it's just not here so much in America then in other countries. Its more expensive to make it in America
stuipdthing 2 years ago
make up for ps3 failure sony oled is expensive
bustas1478 2 years ago
iPhone in my opinion is the best High-Tech gadget I've ever seen!
Nomanc456 2 years ago
kewl to see how the iphone pwned a lot of these ideas lol, i.e. multitouch and context-sensitive menus
thegurukl83 2 years ago
@thegurukl83 This was in early 2007 coming out of 2006, can you imagine what they have now?
jonjon1333 1 year ago
it's TV?amazing tool..
ludyxu 3 years ago
please tell me where i can found all this technologyg or in which webside
criskay3885 3 years ago
A car that can detect alcohol in sweat? Can tell if the driver is about to fall asleep? We really need that in the USA. A sleepy driver could easily kill me, and I often bike when the chance of a driver falling asleep is at its greatest. I work nights.
BayAreaBiker2001 3 years ago
whts the name of the robot at 0:11 please reply.
xDontFaintx 3 years ago
Toyota robot
iluvsystemofadown 3 years ago
on 3:54, did he say "crappy drivers"?
theredkni463 3 years ago
he said happy drivers
d3ed3e 3 years ago
i bet u all if the Technology gets better we will soon be fat and unfit i hav a point if u think about it look at 3:18 to 3:38
TtheChosen1 3 years ago
that is possible but if humans workout or/and eat healthy food everything will be ok but i know its hard for some people.... i meen i do workout alot but i do also eat alot of fast food annyway i wont get anny more fat because of all the running so as u see all u realy need to do is run/jog for 1 hour and u will keep youre shape because no one can stop the future
hewaboy 3 years ago
Great
sayyed1980 3 years ago
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Technology Sucks
waddy123 3 years ago
without the technology you can't comment here, stupid!
jkn1994 3 years ago
are u a hippy?
theredkni463 3 years ago
wow, 1/4w thats inpressive ;P
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Did I miss the iphone in this video? With its new apps, it is far superior to anything in the video.
ohsnap31 3 years ago
you're an official retard - congratulations
Christophebano 3 years ago
Christphebano (what a user name)
You're only seeing a reflection of yourself. The fact that you took time to stoop so low and call me a name instead of making a rational argument....says so much about you. I would rather debate someone who has an actual thought. Don't post things on the net if your analysis can't make it past the 5th grade.
ohsnap31 3 years ago
ohsnap31 (what a user name) are you like 7? Or do you just have the mental capacity of one. Hmm, I'd sooner believe the latter. If you think I'm a person who'll waste my personal time to elaborate my point on why you were actually being a retard, you seriously are expressing terms of how YOU'RE reflecting upon yourself - how ironic, and to think I was some guy who can't make an analysis surpassing that of a 5th grader.
The fact that you have no acknowledgement on modern tech reinforces my point
Christophebano 3 years ago
Christ O,
I decided early on that you would not be worth my time.. Perhaps if you would have attempted a logical argument rather than get your feelings hurt it would have been different. You appear to have a small mind. The iphone especially with its thousands of applications is superior to anything in the video. That was my statement. You disagree, but you can't elaborate because it is too difficult for you. That is your statement. Boy you're a genius. Try to be rational next time.
ohsnap31 3 years ago
When I replied to you, it was half two in the morning AND there were only 500 characters available in a comment box, and guess what? My last comment IS exactly 500 comments. And "rather than get your feelings hurt" wtf, how old do you think I am?! lmao!
The fact that you say that an Iphone surpasses any technologically developed product in this video shows how much of a small-minded person I'm dealing with here
Christophebano 3 years ago
But an Iphone's technology has been available for SO long, the products showed are some of the immense breakthroughs in technological development. I'm sorry, but if you say an Iphone is more developed than a Robot available to follow commands as accurately as a human, realise when a 'charge' is in need, and even evade obstacles in the way, there's my explanation why you're a retard.
Christophebano 3 years ago
Furthermore, an Iphone, as impressive as it maybe, but doesn't even scrape the surface of half of these products, for example, a TV on plastic which enables the product to emit it's own light. You're looking at the iphone in entertainment values, not technological. So yeah, you ARE a retard, I just had no patience to express my opinion
Christophebano 3 years ago
Cbano,
I accept your apology. Apple's iPhone was in fact named the "Invention of the Year" by Time magazine and a host of other publications in 2007. The Iphone has come a long way since then, it is faster, sleeker, more affordable, has more features such as GPS, and above all supports thousands of free and low cost applications. What invention in this video has taken off and is considered a "must have" device by consumers? A robot playing the violin is entertainment and not practical.
ohsnap31 3 years ago
Accept my apology? I don't recall apologising... I agree the Iphone has advanced a lot but it's not half as advanced and has the potential to revolutionise our everyday lives, maybe the technology, but not the Iphone itself, all the Iphone is is a device with several already invented devices in one mobile device, it's great how compact they've made it but it's not new technology, unlike the precision of these
Christophebano 3 years ago
QUOTE: "A robot playing the violin is entertainment and not practical."
But whether something is entertainment doesn't make it not practical. One could even make the argument that everything we do is for the objective of entertainment. We eat for entertainment and it reduces hunger to allow more entertainment. People have babies so they can enjoy raising them. People try to make money to entertain life. Arguing is entertainment and is a way to combat ideas that may threaten entertainment
goldensleeves 3 years ago
I agree with your comment. You could claim the iphone is pure entertainment. But in terms of practicality... the iphone can be purchased by a person with average income and used in many ways on a daily bases. A robot playing the violin is cool, but not affordable to millions, and even if the price came down, it is a product of little daily relevance (look at the robot pets in extinction) and little impact aside from being on display for guests. That is what I mean by not being practical.
ohsnap31 3 years ago
I see. But I see many uses. Firstly, ya gotta admit that playing in a band with a bunch of robots would be pretty cool. They would never quit the band and wouldn't make mistakes. I could even practice with them or impress my friends and potential companions.
They could also be used at restaurants every night without having to pay for an expensive band. Their only limitation is in our imagination! The fact it plays violin is arbitrary - what's relevant is robots work for free! haha
goldensleeves 3 years ago
getting in an argument on the web is just like running in the special olympics.
even if u win, ure still retarded.
:-)
soraspsp 3 years ago
kool
engerjan 3 years ago
loooool @ R2D2 in the car XD
darpachief 3 years ago
I-robot
skidmarks82 3 years ago 4
hot d@mn thats kool!!!
CRAZYSWIRLY 3 years ago
The purpose of all of these gadgets is to make it possible to create technology that can both take up less space and aid us in our daily lives. The robot the plays the violin may seem pointless, but it is in fact a stepping stone toward more advanced robots which are able to do much more. The cars that are able to aid the drivers were created as a means of reducing fatalities. So unless you've created something amazing and world changing, don't talk down to people who are well on their way.
BrentosTheFilmMaker 3 years ago
Hahah.. My comment was SARCASM.. Perhaps you should read the comment i was replying to before making posting another comment...i have complete respect for those who created these brilliant machines... I was commenting on someone who said "This isn't tech"
Ultimabong 3 years ago
no more basic jobs means more doctors and scientist am i right??
jujainlapet 3 years ago
Absolutely not....Im not trying to be rude or cruel.. Its just common fact that some people are not mentally capable of being doctors and scientists... I wish it was like that.. but its not...Basic jobs may not be great and wonderful to behold.. But at least the man who can't be a doctor or scientist can do that job and use the money it generates to support himself or his family..
Ultimabong 3 years ago
they can still educate themselves... if they're clever enough.
ntse91 3 years ago
drinking and driving solved d'.'b
guilleman9 3 years ago
can you make a tv that you can bend? yeah thats what i thought
g3f0rc3p0w3r 3 years ago
You guys have to remember, in the future, most of the technology will practically be toys. We won't need them, they'll just make life easier.
Bleh.
AngelDeAimez 3 years ago
no answer ... wow this ist tech !!!
paracite187 3 years ago
what?! That robot was the best.
DeeSee25 3 years ago
3:39: The Pivo 2 concept car reminds me of Total Recall's Johnnycab.
CodyRicheson 3 years ago
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just toys not really tech
paracite187 3 years ago
word.
stonebenchstudios 3 years ago
You kno why the usa is not that advance is because of president bush
davz612 3 years ago
yeah that makes sense. idiot.
GrUnGe226 3 years ago
It's the other way around. Bush is the president because the USA is not advanced.
Heller86 3 years ago 17
@Heller86 it is tho i know it will we have have cool tech too soon we will make out own robots that walk do watever of the u.s
mquiroz90 1 year ago
we're not advanced in personal gadgets like this because the USA concentrates on machines of war...So we'll let the japanese build their robots and when their done.. We'll make it bigger.. put armor on it and strap duel mounted mini-guns on its shoulders and replace one of its arms with a quad packed surface-to-air missile launcher
Ultimabong 3 years ago 24
lol
CCPnoob 3 years ago
ja for real lol
JoshSDshot 3 years ago
@Ultimabong makes sense to me
KiillWiithMe 1 year ago
that plastic tv is the best
goldbergjkhm 3 years ago
why aren't we that advanced?
jamesaschafer 3 years ago
I'm a human and even I can't play violin that good :(
entr0pic1 3 years ago 2
damn. that's sexy
dubida123 3 years ago
i luv both of those cars there awesome
scooby2467 3 years ago
youve watched terminator way too many times...
rocker2084 3 years ago 6
lol
JC23333 3 years ago
nono he watch the matrix too much :P
ShenOmega 3 years ago
damn japaneses.... i'll start eating rice
jorge4me2 3 years ago
so true
Ghettoman30002000 3 years ago 2
cool
joefon11 3 years ago
all I can say is WOW
runemasters5895 3 years ago
I almost had a heart atack when i saw the little cute motherboard ^^(sry for my english)
Dafaernir 3 years ago
ur english is better than mine, dont appologize. <3
Makemerichonline 3 years ago
thats like a dream, i cant wait for advance future. Im dealing with technologies and i luv it. Cant wait for robots to join our world!. lol
NetInsomiac 4 years ago 3
its good and bad in a way. especially in the case of robots. think about it in the economic view. how would it be for us if robots replaced us to do OUR jobs.
sultan3878 3 years ago
no it wouldnt. robots can help us build more. produce even more high tech stuff. history have proven that. the machines of the industrial revolution created more jobs than replaced human jobs.
ntuman 3 years ago
PIVO KUN IS THE FIRST HARO! xD
oh the future is going to be awesome ^_^
1BrknHrtdRomeo 4 years ago
lol
brunomonsta 4 years ago
rofl
sdeevooo 4 years ago
lol :) thats not how humans live
rmpknight11 4 years ago
think about energy resources...fossil fuels are running out. We should think of good alternatives before we should even get to too much technologies.
you know what I mean you guys, right???
ETN10 4 years ago
That was in the vid - Glucose powered batteries XD what if they got hyper?
1Jonman1 4 years ago
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Beter technology displaces technology until technology displaces us!
I would never trust in a car with that freaking psyco voice...it will kill you wile driving! xD No to robots, yes to nature.
actually the gadgets are usefull for our comunicaction...we should improve that.
If we develop robots, a lot of people will lose basic jobs and we would end up living in a gray world.
Paz.
parkavioleta 4 years ago
you are a loser
odessaguitarist 4 years ago
And you are a hypocrite.
Don't waste time repling, you have no criterion.
parkavioleta 4 years ago
lol, calm down.
why resist development, evolution and change?
and "criterion", ?
odessaguitarist 4 years ago 2
ever watched the terminator?
Devilman2012 4 years ago
The Fictionial movies made years ago are becoming more True. Science fiction is not Fiction any more then what is it? If that Honda starts to become like Blade Runner I'm gonna piss my self to death.
ShinWR1 4 years ago
shut the f%#$# up bro i want to live to see technology ,,, ITS PEOPLE LIKE U THAT WANT TO MAKE ME PULL THE TRIGGER AND PUT A BULLET IN MY HEAD
ladiesmanamk 4 years ago
sooooowy :(
odessaguitarist 4 years ago
Wohow...take it easy down there...before those technologies, let's stop and think how the future will be if we just fill the world with techs. Do you even know what would actually happen?
Pollutions, stubborn and lazy people (as in relying on techs when we can actually do it our selves).
Common sense dude. I still want to see a clean future with fresh, natural air. I still want to see the earth green...NOT GRAY or even BLACK!!!
ETN10 4 years ago
lol how exactly is a bunch of robots that run on Electricity going to turn the sky black? And do you really think that in a futuristic "tech" world that we would still have Oil to burn and pollute? We will be forced to find alternative energy sources for this so called "tech-future".. Solar energy being the most likely...Thats if we don't bomb our selves back to the stone age of course...
Ultimabong 3 years ago 3
you got a bad case of future shock don't ya
jhexp1001 3 years ago
If you are a Business Education Teacher, Technology Education Teacher, or Career Development Coach you REALLY need have your students view this. What you will see here are the jobs they will be employed in for the next 5 or so years, until newer and better technology displaces what you see here!
CiscoWizard 4 years ago